Dahil may fact of death. Either hazing o reckless imprudence resulting to homicide na lang pagpipilian ng judge diyan. Very obvious naman ang NEGLIGENCE. Unless tatakas siya sa US na may extradition treaty ang Pinas. Ganun talaga coacH. Kaya dapat inuna ang pagiging maingat kaysa sa ego at pang sadistang training
10:19 Then they should have made sure na walang mamamatay by keeping the training within reasonable difficulty. 7 days na kahit cellphone bawal? What do they need to hide so keep the kids from contacting anyone? Definitely there was power play in that activity--maybe the coaching staff led by this man was trying to impose absolute authority by somewhat torturing the players. And now he's feeling the loss of power instead because of what happened.
Reckless Imprudence Resulting in Homicide (Article 365 of the Revised Penal Code) is a criminal offense penalized even when there is no intent to harm. It occurs when an individual causes another's death through a clear lack of precaution—such as negligence, carelessness, or failure to exercise necessary skill.
It could have been prevented by doing aqua training in a swimming pool or in calm waters like Batangas. Kung trip ni coach yung maalon dapat maraming medic at lifeguards nakabantay sa kanila. Parang hazing yung ginawa.
1019 Syempre walang may gusto..Pero ang tanong: Did he exercise prudence and precaution while conducting the training to ensure na wala nga mamatay?..Parang gusto mo na rin sabihin kunwari may namatay dahil na OD sa illegal drugs, hindi nya balak mag unalive pero he was reckless by taking them..He still did it to himself..kaya ganito rin,the coach IS RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE HE WAS RECKLESS .
1037..tama ka.and he is grieving over the potential loss of his coaching career in the Philippines..A Php700k salary is above average,ewan lang of he can still get that kind of compensation elsewhere after this incident..
Sa mga hindi nakakakilala kay Coach Tab, we understand your anger. No amount of apology, no words can bring back the lives of Rene and Divine. Pero tigilan na sana ang pambabash sa kanya. Hindi niya ginustong may mamatay. Ang pagkakamali niya lang ay ginampanan niya ang work niya without safety precautions. Sa tagal niya na kasing ginagawa 'to, akala niya laging pabor sa kanya ang tadhana. Pero ang masakit nito,w 2 bata ang nagsakripisyo ng buhay nila.
It’s their arrogance and negligence kaya yan nangyari, ika nga ang maling akala ay nakakamatay!! Next time ivolunteer mo muna sarili mo or kamag-anak mo sa ganyan kalalang training in open waters, tignan natin if makakaulit ka ng kuda!!
10:21 lumabas na nga na many times in the past may incidents na ng pagkalunod pero d pa din sya tumigil. Dahil wala naman namamatay?!? Oh eh ano na ngayon?
Mga keyboard warriors grabe. I sympathize with the family din pero hindi ako para icrucify ang tao dahil lang hindi niya naforsee ang danger. I bet he had all the best intentions para sa future ng mga athletes na yun. Ang perfect nyo naman.
1143..Baka hindi masamang tao pero IRRESPONSIBLE, RECKLESS AND ARROGANT..Call it whatever u want but it led to the death of 2 young players with very bright futures ahead.
PAGKAKAMALI NYA LANG?!? LANG!!??? G*go ka ba?!? Lang??? May namatay!! Lang?!? Taga san ka at pupuntahan kita ng mapitik kita sa noo! Nilalang mo. May namatay nga!! Bw!set ka!
12:19 Hindi nya na foresee??? Eh di ba ilang beses na nga daw may MUNTIK nang malunod? Tapos binalaan din sila ng resort staff. Not to mention the earthquake early that morning was all over the news and online. Anong "hindi nya lang naforesee" ang sinasabi mo dyan???
Halos kaedaran lang ng mga anak ko sina Rene at Divine so I really feel for their families, most especially their mothers. Wag mo nang ipagtanggol yang coach na obviously GINUSTO namang gawing delikado yung activity to begin with. Mga former athletes na mismo nya ang nagsabi. Nakakagigil talaga na wala man lang syang pag-amin sa kasalanan nya, puro lang "I'm sorry" and "na-hurt din ako, pero ok mas na-hurt syempre yung family" ang nasa message nya.
11.38 jail time is what he deserves. saka sa mga nagsasabing mabait naman si coach, o e ano? same lang yan pag nag drive ka tapos naka aksidente ka at namatay. di ba kulong ka din dun kahit mabait ka at wala ka naman intention pumatay. ganun ang analogy.
I get the outrage of other people pero yung iba aminin sobrang oa ng reaction. Totoo naman na hindi na mababalik ng sorry yung 2 bata and i feel terribly sad for their families. Pero sa mga ibang oa stop making the situation worse. Hindi naman niya ginusto at pinatay yung 2 student athletes.
What he did was totally reckless. Hindi nga daw marunong lumangoy yung Nigerian. At may muntik na malunod dati pa, pero sige pa rin si coach at hinayaan lang ng Ateneo. He sounds like a man with sadistic tendencies. Deserve nila lahat ng hate.
Sabihin natin reckless pero thats also different from wanting the boys to die intentionally. Wag kayo magalit kay 11:02! I do agree that he is accountable but I also get the comment. I also believe that Tab did not want the boys to drown to death
1027..If u are a parent, tsaka mo sabihin yan kung mangyari sa sarili mong anak . Kung ikaw naman ay isang bata pa at mangyari syonyan, ask your parents kung hindi nila iisipin na parang ang coach na rin ang pumatay syo..
Pag nakabangga ka ba at namatay while driving di mo rin naman gusto mamatay yung nabangga mo diba pero i happened. And you're liable for that. Same lang yun.
Nung hindi nagsasalita, andaming nagdedemand na magsalita. Nung magsalita naman, hinanapan pa din ng mali. Ang may karapatang ipako sa krus 'tong taong 'to e 'yung pamilya at kaanak ng namatay. Mga nakikisawsaw lang tayong lahat. Kayo na magagaling.
Wala kasing accountability. Nagpaawa lang sya na masakit sa kanya yung nagyari pero di nya inamin na may pagkukulang sya at kung ano yun exactly. Kugn sinabi nya na "hindi ko dapat sila dinala sa beach na yun dahil alam kong delikado" edi sana natuwa pa ang tao sa kanya.
Reckless Imprudence Resulting in Homicide (Article 365 of the Revised Penal Code) is a criminal offense penalized even when there is no intent to harm. It occurs when an individual causes another's death through a clear lack of precaution—such as negligence, carelessness, or failure to exercise necessary skill.
Paki read repeat ng mga nagsasabi na walang may gusto sa nangyari or wag sila sisihin 😤
@anon 11pm, basahin mo rin multiple times yan sinasabi mo na batas. Pulis ka ba, napatunayan na ba na may negligence na naganap? Hindi lang naman coach ang accountable dito but the school itself, kung bakit na approve yun ganyan training. Bida bida ka wala pa nga data
12:23 Napanuod mo ba yung rescue videos? Hindi ba kitang kita na ang lakas ng alon? Tapos kalahating oras bago tumawag ng tulong. Ano pa bang proof ng negligence ang kailangan mo?
12:23 Di ba nasa news na ang investigation? School, training team, at coaches—accountable lahat. Ikaw ang bida-bida. Hindi mali mag share nung legal clause kasi totoong may negligence duh!
It is not just him to blame, but the entire Ateneo Basketball staff and the Ateneo Admin as well who allowed this practice to happen. Sana man lang, they took precautionary measures before allowing the staff to do this, like at least may medical team na kasama, or at least they assigned someone to make sure that the coaching staff are being careful.
May medic daw na kasama pero basic lang. Siguro mga paglinis lang ng minor wounds ang alam, ganun.
Ang hindi clear is kung totoong may coaching staff din sa tubig gaya ng sabi nila. Kasi dun sa recue video at sa interview sa rescuer, mga players din lang yung tumulong magbuhat kina Rene at Divine. So asan yung coaches? Sana yun ang nilinaw.
Ano Padre Bobby eh d bumigay ka din sa pressure na palabasin si Baldwin. That shouldn’t have taken so long. Grabeng training routine yan dinaig niyo pa ang FIBA World Cup
Tingin ko lang ha kaya natagalan magsalita si Coach and in the meantime panay naman post ng school ay dahil "under negotiation".From the looks of it, accountable din talaga ang school but they might be making a deal with the coach na instead pati school madamay pa,ay ipaako nalang lahat sa kanya like he overdid things beyond what the school allowed for this training. Syempre in exchange,he will be extended all the legal support he needs etc and in the end,syempre may pabaon pauwi.. Now nga nagsalita na pero wala pa rin substance.The absence of transparency makes the entire situation "scripted".kaso di pa na finalize ang script.Parang " place ard holder" lang muna,masabi lng na cooperative and sorry.
dami kasi kuru kuro na hazing o pinaglaruan si baterbonia. di naman siguro grabeng aqua training lang talaga gaya yung mga kwento ng pba players na datin ateneo blue eagles.
Remove Ateneo from UAAP Investigate the whole incident
Please lets not forget this incident. Rene is the face of the kabataang pilipino na talented, laki sa hirap, nagpursige para abutin ang pangarap para matulungan ang pamilya, walang connection at kakilala na malakas para makapasok sa Ateneo at napakabait na bata. Napakalaking chance na magsucceed si Rene (parang katulad ng ibang regular na kabataang pilipino) pero nagdirecho kasi hindi naprotektahan katulad ng mga anak ng mga mayayaman at malakas ang kapit.
Nakakalungkot isipin na ganito ang karaniwan na ending ng normal na kabataang pilipino. Hindi importante ang talent at ang pagpupursige na umangat sa buhay kasi ganito lang ang mangyayare. Hindi lang pangarap ni Rene at Divine and pinutol ng Ateneo, pangarap ng kabataang pilipino na galing sa mahirap na pamilya. Sana huwag nating kalimutan ito.
STRAIGHT TO JAIL
ReplyDeleteDahil may fact of death. Either hazing o reckless imprudence resulting to homicide na lang pagpipilian ng judge diyan. Very obvious naman ang NEGLIGENCE. Unless tatakas siya sa US na may extradition treaty ang Pinas. Ganun talaga coacH. Kaya dapat inuna ang pagiging maingat kaysa sa ego at pang sadistang training
DeleteKonsensya malala. Yung ay kung meron pa
ReplyDeleteWhat have you done? Tell all the details the truth
ReplyDeletei symphatize and i understand the outrage pero wala may gusto sa nangyari, walang gusto may mamatay.
ReplyDeletebut it’s preventable that is the point, kasi alam naman delikado ang open waters for training
Delete10:19 Then they should have made sure na walang mamamatay by keeping the training within reasonable difficulty. 7 days na kahit cellphone bawal? What do they need to hide so keep the kids from contacting anyone? Definitely there was power play in that activity--maybe the coaching staff led by this man was trying to impose absolute authority by somewhat torturing the players. And now he's feeling the loss of power instead because of what happened.
DeleteReckless Imprudence Resulting in Homicide (Article 365 of the Revised Penal Code) is a criminal offense penalized even when there is no intent to harm. It occurs when an individual causes another's death through a clear lack of precaution—such as negligence, carelessness, or failure to exercise necessary skill.
DeletePaki read repeat po 5x!
It could have been prevented by doing aqua training in a swimming pool or in calm waters like Batangas. Kung trip ni coach yung maalon dapat maraming medic at lifeguards nakabantay sa kanila. Parang hazing yung ginawa.
Delete1019 Syempre walang may gusto..Pero ang tanong: Did he exercise prudence and precaution while conducting the training to ensure na wala nga mamatay?..Parang gusto mo na rin sabihin kunwari may namatay dahil na OD sa illegal drugs, hindi nya balak mag unalive pero he was reckless by taking them..He still did it to himself..kaya ganito rin,the coach IS RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE HE WAS RECKLESS .
DeleteDAPAT TALAGA MAY MANAGOT.
DeleteBAKIT KAYA HINDI NILA NASURVIVE NO? SAME TRAINING LANG NAMAN DAW SA PAST. WALA NAMANG NAMATAY.
1037..tama ka.and he is grieving over the potential loss of his coaching career in the Philippines..A Php700k salary is above average,ewan lang of he can still get that kind of compensation elsewhere after this incident..
DeleteSa mga hindi nakakakilala kay Coach Tab, we understand your anger. No amount of apology, no words can bring back the lives of Rene and Divine. Pero tigilan na sana ang pambabash sa kanya. Hindi niya ginustong may mamatay. Ang pagkakamali niya lang ay ginampanan niya ang work niya without safety precautions. Sa tagal niya na kasing ginagawa 'to, akala niya laging pabor sa kanya ang tadhana. Pero ang masakit nito,w 2 bata ang nagsakripisyo ng buhay nila.
ReplyDeleteIt’s their arrogance and negligence kaya yan nangyari,
Deleteika nga ang maling akala ay nakakamatay!!
Next time ivolunteer mo muna sarili mo or kamag-anak mo sa ganyan kalalang training in open waters, tignan natin if makakaulit ka ng kuda!!
Panigan mo ang mga biktima at ang kanilang mga pamilya, hindi yung banyaga na yan na naging dahilan sa pagkawala ng mga bata.
DeleteMay nawalan ng buhay, namatayan ng anak, and you're feeling aorry for him kasi NABABASH??!!! He deserves more than the bashing!
Delete10:21 lumabas na nga na many times in the past may incidents na ng pagkalunod pero d pa din sya tumigil. Dahil wala naman namamatay?!? Oh eh ano na ngayon?
Delete10:59 ikaw ibo-volunteer ko
Delete11:22 I sympathize with the family. I can't imagine their grief. Pero hindi naman masamang tao si Coach Tab i if you only knew him personally.
DeleteMga keyboard warriors grabe. I sympathize with the family din pero hindi ako para icrucify ang tao dahil lang hindi niya naforsee ang danger. I bet he had all the best intentions para sa future ng mga athletes na yun. Ang perfect nyo naman.
Delete1143..Baka hindi masamang tao pero IRRESPONSIBLE, RECKLESS AND ARROGANT..Call it whatever u want but it led to the death of 2 young players with very bright futures ahead.
DeletePAGKAKAMALI NYA LANG?!? LANG!!??? G*go ka ba?!? Lang??? May namatay!! Lang?!? Taga san ka at pupuntahan kita ng mapitik kita sa noo! Nilalang mo. May namatay nga!! Bw!set ka!
Delete12:19 Hindi nya na foresee??? Eh di ba ilang beses na nga daw may MUNTIK nang malunod? Tapos binalaan din sila ng resort staff. Not to mention the earthquake early that morning was all over the news and online. Anong "hindi nya lang naforesee" ang sinasabi mo dyan???
DeleteHalos kaedaran lang ng mga anak ko sina Rene at Divine so I really feel for their families, most especially their mothers. Wag mo nang ipagtanggol yang coach na obviously GINUSTO namang gawing delikado yung activity to begin with. Mga former athletes na mismo nya ang nagsabi. Nakakagigil talaga na wala man lang syang pag-amin sa kasalanan nya, puro lang "I'm sorry" and "na-hurt din ako, pero ok mas na-hurt syempre yung family" ang nasa message nya.
11.38 jail time is what he deserves. saka sa mga nagsasabing mabait naman si coach, o e ano? same lang yan pag nag drive ka tapos naka aksidente ka at namatay. di ba kulong ka din dun kahit mabait ka at wala ka naman intention pumatay. ganun ang analogy.
Delete@12:19 are you for real? binabalewala mo 2 buhay na nawala kasi di lahat perfect kamo? pano kung nangyari sa pamilya mo sasabihin mo pa din yan?! 🤯
DeleteI get the outrage of other people pero yung iba aminin sobrang oa ng reaction. Totoo naman na hindi na mababalik ng sorry yung 2 bata and i feel terribly sad for their families. Pero sa mga ibang oa stop making the situation worse. Hindi naman niya ginusto at pinatay yung 2 student athletes.
ReplyDeleteDo search the meaning of Reckless Imprudence Resulting in Homicide before you comment again!
DeleteWhat he did was totally reckless. Hindi nga daw marunong lumangoy yung Nigerian. At may muntik na malunod dati pa, pero sige pa rin si coach at hinayaan lang ng Ateneo. He sounds like a man with sadistic tendencies. Deserve nila lahat ng hate.
DeleteSabihin natin reckless pero thats also different from wanting the boys to die intentionally. Wag kayo magalit kay 11:02! I do agree that he is accountable but I also get the comment. I also believe that Tab did not want the boys to drown to death
Delete1027..If u are a parent, tsaka mo sabihin yan kung mangyari sa sarili mong anak .
DeleteKung ikaw naman ay isang bata pa at mangyari syonyan, ask your parents kung hindi nila iisipin na parang ang coach na rin ang pumatay syo..
Pag nakabangga ka ba at namatay while driving di mo rin naman gusto mamatay yung nabangga mo diba pero i happened. And you're liable for that. Same lang yun.
DeleteAng lala mo. Walang accountability. “I THINK” I FAILED MO MUKHA MO
ReplyDeleteNung hindi nagsasalita, andaming nagdedemand na magsalita. Nung magsalita naman, hinanapan pa din ng mali. Ang may karapatang ipako sa krus 'tong taong 'to e 'yung pamilya at kaanak ng namatay. Mga nakikisawsaw lang tayong lahat. Kayo na magagaling.
ReplyDeleteWala kasing accountability. Nagpaawa lang sya na masakit sa kanya yung nagyari pero di nya inamin na may pagkukulang sya at kung ano yun exactly. Kugn sinabi nya na "hindi ko dapat sila dinala sa beach na yun dahil alam kong delikado" edi sana natuwa pa ang tao sa kanya.
DeleteIkaw din nagmamagaling 😜
Delete1051..Hindi porke't nagsalita ay OK na..Transparency and accountability ang inaasahan sa kanya TRANSPARECY:Ikwento nya ano nangyari
DeleteReckless Imprudence Resulting in Homicide (Article 365 of the Revised Penal Code) is a criminal offense penalized even when there is no intent to harm. It occurs when an individual causes another's death through a clear lack of precaution—such as negligence, carelessness, or failure to exercise necessary skill.
ReplyDeletePaki read repeat ng mga nagsasabi na walang may gusto sa nangyari or wag sila sisihin 😤
Paulit ulit ka
Delete@11:32 dahil kailangan aware ibang tao bago nila i-defend ang may mali!
Delete@anon 11pm, basahin mo rin multiple times yan sinasabi mo na batas. Pulis ka ba, napatunayan na ba na may negligence na naganap? Hindi lang naman coach ang accountable dito but the school itself, kung bakit na approve yun ganyan training. Bida bida ka wala pa nga data
Delete12:23 Napanuod mo ba yung rescue videos? Hindi ba kitang kita na ang lakas ng alon? Tapos kalahating oras bago tumawag ng tulong. Ano pa bang proof ng negligence ang kailangan mo?
Delete12:23 Di ba nasa news na ang investigation? School, training team, at coaches—accountable lahat. Ikaw ang bida-bida. Hindi mali mag share nung legal clause kasi totoong may negligence duh!
DeleteNo AFAM en penas ever goes to jail :D :D :D It's like the greeks taking Zeus to prison ;) ;) ;)
ReplyDeleteSince 2022, Ateneo has not qualified for finals. Time to change the coach, "I think".
ReplyDeleteIt is not just him to blame, but the entire Ateneo Basketball staff and the Ateneo Admin as well who allowed this practice to happen. Sana man lang, they took precautionary measures before allowing the staff to do this, like at least may medical team na kasama, or at least they assigned someone to make sure that the coaching staff are being careful.
ReplyDeleteMay medic daw na kasama pero basic lang. Siguro mga paglinis lang ng minor wounds ang alam, ganun.
DeleteAng hindi clear is kung totoong may coaching staff din sa tubig gaya ng sabi nila. Kasi dun sa recue video at sa interview sa rescuer, mga players din lang yung tumulong magbuhat kina Rene at Divine. So asan yung coaches? Sana yun ang nilinaw.
Okay apology done. But you should be put to jail.
ReplyDeleteAno Padre Bobby eh d bumigay ka din sa pressure na palabasin si Baldwin. That shouldn’t have taken so long. Grabeng training routine yan dinaig niyo pa ang FIBA World Cup
ReplyDeleteTingin ko lang ha kaya natagalan magsalita si Coach and in the meantime panay naman post ng school ay dahil "under negotiation".From the looks of it, accountable din talaga ang school but they might be making a deal with the coach na instead pati school madamay pa,ay ipaako nalang lahat sa kanya like he overdid things beyond what the school allowed for this training. Syempre in exchange,he will be extended all the legal support he needs etc and in the end,syempre may pabaon pauwi..
ReplyDeleteNow nga nagsalita na pero wala pa rin substance.The absence of transparency makes the entire situation "scripted".kaso di pa na finalize ang script.Parang " place ard holder" lang muna,masabi lng na cooperative and sorry.
dami kasi kuru kuro na hazing o pinaglaruan si baterbonia. di naman siguro grabeng aqua training lang talaga gaya yung mga kwento ng pba players na datin ateneo blue eagles.
ReplyDeleteRemove Ateneo from UAAP
ReplyDeleteInvestigate the whole incident
Please lets not forget this incident. Rene is the face of the kabataang pilipino na talented, laki sa hirap, nagpursige para abutin ang pangarap para matulungan ang pamilya, walang connection at kakilala na malakas para makapasok sa Ateneo at napakabait na bata. Napakalaking chance na magsucceed si Rene (parang katulad ng ibang regular na kabataang pilipino) pero nagdirecho kasi hindi naprotektahan katulad ng mga anak ng mga mayayaman at malakas ang kapit.
Nakakalungkot isipin na ganito ang karaniwan na ending ng normal na kabataang pilipino. Hindi importante ang talent at ang pagpupursige na umangat sa buhay kasi ganito lang ang mangyayare. Hindi lang pangarap ni Rene at Divine and pinutol ng Ateneo, pangarap ng kabataang pilipino na galing sa mahirap na pamilya. Sana huwag nating kalimutan ito.