Pero may point yung commenter, kung may guidance at faith matatakot talaga ang tao gumawa ng ganyang kasi naka imprint na sa utak nila that it is a sin. Aminin natin, faith really helps sa mga depressed na tao. It somehow clears your mind, may role talaga sya. Ang point ni Kuya Kim is about science the other one is spiritual.
I disagree with you. feeling righteous as if he knows the scripture but saying those things to a grieving father makes me think he doesnt know God. His words doesnt show kindness, respect nor compasion.
I am a devout Christian and at the same time a nurse. I work with mental health patients. Please stop saying if you have faith, hindi dapat mangyari. Their brain is wired differently.
People still engage in premarital sex, adultery, gambling - just to give examples. Andami kong kilalang makasalanan na palasimba. May guidance & faith din naman 'tong mga taong ito.
I'm not saying I'm perfect either ha.
Dun sa minention kong examples - people are fully aware that they are sinning. Your statement "naka imprint na sa utak nila that it is a sin" is no longer applicable then.
Na-clinically diagnose ka ba ng depression? You wouldn't understand if you're not. Ang dali kasing sabihin pray pray pray.
I just finished watching Emman Atienza on Toni Talks. 😟😟😟 I’m not blaming anyone pero how come na hindi napansin ng parents nya yung mga nangyayari? 😢 I feel sorry for her. I hope she’s at peace now.🙏
The family was aware. What do you expect them to do? Bantayan siya 24/7? Yung anak nga nila Noni nasa bahay nila when it happened. You can't just tie them down and think yun ang solution.
I think the greatest lesson here is, if ever may history yung fam member na unstable yung mental health, dapat hindi pinapabayaan mag-isa. Hindi porket tapos na siya mag therapy way back, hindi na babalik yun. Ayun na nga nangyari. Wag nalang natin iblame yung parents, may it be a lesson na maging observant din tayo sa mga fam members natin.
thats not how it works. even if there are 100 people around them, depressed people still get depressed. its an internal struggle & sadly, many still find a way to off themselves even with a whole support system, when they cant handle it anymore.
Same question din ako, kaya lang nakakatakot mag tanong,baka sbhin basher or manahimik. Yung question k kasi, meron ba sya gamot iniinom regularly? May doctor ba sya? May kasama ba sya sa US sa bahay? Gaano ba katindi ang depression nya? Lagi ba sya nag iisip ng ganon? Kasi sa USA nandyan na lahat ,magagawa mo nalang is seek help.
‘Magagawa mo nalang is to seek help’- to give you an idea, psychiatrists in LA cost around $100-300 per hour. I have a niece who shared her story that during her high school days she’s been bullied, kept it to herself and when she graduated and got a job, she started seeing a shrink. Bullies deeply scarred a person mentally, physically and emotionally. Sometimes even how closely knit your family is, you keep quiet because you don’t want to be a burden, even if they keep reminding you that they are always there to listen, guide and help. You don’t know how they feel, how they think unless you’ll be in the same situation. Let us all be reminded that there’s a grieving family.. kindness and prayers are the best we can give.
grabe ang mga makadyos kuno na ganyan. nalilimutan ang sympathy at humanity makapagsermon lang. if you think the parents failed the child then they are already paying for it enduring their beloved's death. hindi pa sapat sa kanya yon?
Tumpak si Kuya Kim. Overly self-righteous itong kung sinong Joy ito acting like she is God’s spokesperson! Like a Pharisee uber judgmental na walang empathy or kindness sa kapwa!
Only God can read our hearts. He is the only one who can reward and punish anyone for whatever. When Emman did what she did, due to her mental condition, she wasn’t in her right faculties. It was no longer her making that decision. God is love. He is our Grand Creator. God loves Emman. Present tense yan!
Holier-than-thou netizen with unsolicited advice about parenting. Ang tapang ng statement - "This is an open rebuke".
Andaming unsolicited advice sa other posts ni FP na kesyo the parents should have done this, that, etc. Tandaan - spectators lang po tayo. Nakiki-marites lang tayo. Emman is gone. Sana makiramay po tayo ng maayos.
Those saying na she’s in the states and had access to everything, actually that’s not as easy as how you make it sound. Daming factors such as insurance and the willingness of the patient. Emman was an adult and you can’t just put her on a 5150 hold or put her on a conservatorship. Same people judging the parents are the same people who wanted “freedom” for britney spears
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Pero may point yung commenter, kung may guidance at faith matatakot talaga ang tao gumawa ng ganyang kasi naka imprint na sa utak nila that it is a sin. Aminin natin, faith really helps sa mga depressed na tao. It somehow clears your mind, may role talaga sya. Ang point ni Kuya Kim is about science the other one is spiritual.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with you. feeling righteous as if he knows the scripture but saying those things to a grieving father makes me think he doesnt know God. His words doesnt show kindness, respect nor compasion.
DeleteI am a devout Christian and at the same time a nurse. I work with mental health patients. Please stop saying if you have faith, hindi dapat mangyari. Their brain is wired differently.
DeletePeople still engage in premarital sex, adultery, gambling - just to give examples. Andami kong kilalang makasalanan na palasimba. May guidance & faith din naman 'tong mga taong ito.
DeleteI'm not saying I'm perfect either ha.
Dun sa minention kong examples - people are fully aware that they are sinning. Your statement "naka imprint na sa utak nila that it is a sin" is no longer applicable then.
Na-clinically diagnose ka ba ng depression? You wouldn't understand if you're not. Ang dali kasing sabihin pray pray pray.
Mental disability meaning she's not in her right state of mind
DeleteIsa ka pa. Sana hindi nalang pinag aral ung mga tao, puro bible nalang katulad nyo.
Deletealam na nga ng parents na hndi sya stable mentally, bakit hinayaan pa ring mag isa? na mag move out of the country on her own..sorry, d ko lang gets
DeleteAng sad lang na they all know she’s mentally ill pero hinayaan na malayo sa kanila, wlang kasama tapos 19??? Sana di nila hinayaan mag isa
ReplyDeleteI just finished watching Emman Atienza on Toni Talks. 😟😟😟 I’m not blaming anyone pero how come na hindi napansin ng parents nya yung mga nangyayari? 😢 I feel sorry for her. I hope she’s at peace now.🙏
ReplyDeleteyet you posting this proves that you are blaming the parents.
DeleteThe family was aware. What do you expect them to do? Bantayan siya 24/7? Yung anak nga nila Noni nasa bahay nila when it happened. You can't just tie them down and think yun ang solution.
DeleteI'm not blaming anyone - but obviously blaming the family
DeleteWow! How cruel can people be?
ReplyDeleteWhat if the real solution we’re looking for isn’t in luck or timing but in where we spend our time?
ReplyDeleteMore hours in church, reading the Bible, praying, serving, and grounding ourselves in truth instead of partying, drinking, and numbing the noise.
Maybe circumstances wouldn’t just look different. Maybe we would.
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I think the greatest lesson here is, if ever may history yung fam member na unstable yung mental health, dapat hindi pinapabayaan mag-isa. Hindi porket tapos na siya mag therapy way back, hindi na babalik yun. Ayun na nga nangyari. Wag nalang natin iblame yung parents, may it be a lesson na maging observant din tayo sa mga fam members natin.
ReplyDeletethats not how it works. even if there are 100 people around them, depressed people still get depressed. its an internal struggle & sadly, many still find a way to off themselves even with a whole support system, when they cant handle it anymore.
DeleteHow ironic that the bully's name is Joy.
ReplyDeleteMaybe i have the same question as others. Known and diagnosed na may depression, pero mag isa abroad?
ReplyDeleteMay nakita akong socmed post. The mother & Emman went to LA for her therapy. So she didn't go there alone.
DeleteSame question din ako, kaya lang nakakatakot mag tanong,baka sbhin basher or manahimik. Yung question k kasi, meron ba sya gamot iniinom regularly? May doctor ba sya? May kasama ba sya sa US sa bahay? Gaano ba katindi ang depression nya? Lagi ba sya nag iisip ng ganon? Kasi sa USA nandyan na lahat ,magagawa mo nalang is seek help.
Delete‘Magagawa mo nalang is to seek help’- to give you an idea, psychiatrists in LA cost around $100-300 per hour. I have a niece who shared her story that during her high school days she’s been bullied, kept it to herself and when she graduated and got a job, she started seeing a shrink. Bullies deeply scarred a person mentally, physically and emotionally. Sometimes even how closely knit your family is, you keep quiet because you don’t want to be a burden, even if they keep reminding you that they are always there to listen, guide and help.
DeleteYou don’t know how they feel, how they think unless you’ll be in the same situation.
Let us all be reminded that there’s a grieving family.. kindness and prayers are the best we can give.
If you’re in the US and have suicidal thoughts, you or someone can call 911 and that can be a reason for a legal hold.
Deletegrabe ang mga makadyos kuno na ganyan. nalilimutan ang sympathy at humanity makapagsermon lang. if you think the parents failed the child then they are already paying for it enduring their beloved's death. hindi pa sapat sa kanya yon?
ReplyDeleteTumpak si Kuya Kim. Overly self-righteous itong kung sinong Joy ito acting like she is God’s spokesperson! Like a Pharisee uber judgmental na walang empathy or kindness sa kapwa!
ReplyDeleteOnly God can read our hearts. He is the only one who can reward and punish anyone for whatever. When Emman did what she did, due to her mental condition, she wasn’t in her right faculties. It was no longer her making that decision. God is love. He is our Grand Creator. God loves Emman. Present tense yan!
Holier-than-thou netizen with unsolicited advice about parenting. Ang tapang ng statement - "This is an open rebuke".
ReplyDeleteAndaming unsolicited advice sa other posts ni FP na kesyo the parents should have done this, that, etc. Tandaan - spectators lang po tayo. Nakiki-marites lang tayo. Emman is gone. Sana makiramay po tayo ng maayos.
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DeleteIn her posts and contents its obviously a cry for help. How can they missed that?
ReplyDeleteMaybe she stopped taking her meds thinking that everything was going well with her while she was in LA?
ReplyDeleteThose saying na she’s in the states and had access to everything, actually that’s not as easy as how you make it sound. Daming factors such as insurance and the willingness of the patient. Emman was an adult and you can’t just put her on a 5150 hold or put her on a conservatorship. Same people judging the parents are the same people who wanted “freedom” for britney spears
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