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Friday, December 1, 2017

Insta Scoop: Pia Wurztbach Dismayed at PDEA Pronouncement and Media Coverage of Drug Raid at Upscale Hotel


Images courtesy of Instagram: piawurtzbach

88 comments:

  1. Yes, It does says in RA8504 that HIV should be confidential, but there are "Exemption to mandate that confidentiality" and that 1 person who has the HIV never did nor apply the following sanction of having HIV.

    Ms. wurztbach should read the whole article before saying something like this..

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    1. what kind of drugs did they use and supply? hope they're not sharing needles esp if they have HIV.

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    2. anong hope. mga pervs po yon 750

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    3. 2:05 - it does SAY!

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    4. Nag oorgy po sila. Okay naden sabihin un para babala na mag ingat sa pag sali sa orgy orgy make sure ur protected para d magkahawaan ng sakit

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    5. Yes there are "Exceptions to the mandate of confidentiality", but did you read it yourself? You might be the one who need the advise you gave to Ms. Wurztbach.

      The PDEA action was not an exemption. As it is, PDEA knew their blunder that's why they immediately issued a public apology.

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    6. 7:50 liquid ecstacy

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    7. 2:05 is correct.

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    8. Yah may point si 205

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  2. Preach Queen P! Mali talaga yung ginawa ng PDEA. I understand that drugs was involved, but to sensationalize it and create a stigma in the gay community and PLHIVs is wrong! Sobrang nakakagalit at lungkot magisip ng ibang tao! Whatever happened to kindness and compassion? They broke the law by using drugs, and they should be punished for it. But to also insinuate that they’re gay and one has HIV is unlawful.

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    1. Theres no sensationalising or stigma created, it is what it is. Illegal party drugs was present and thats what made it even worse. Again no judging but what is moral in an orgy or group like them doing what they are doin? It was totally embarrasing but who wouldnt be? To Pia why criticize PDEA for just doing their job and doing the right thing, dont try to cover up wrong doing of others just to push your misdirected advocacy. It is sexual promiscuousity that spreads HIV and that is one best example to educate the youth. To be careful with their actions as there are consequences. These guys are humiliated bcos they chose to be and its not PDEAS doing. And no need to insinuate they are gays besides whats wrong if they are what is wrong is what they are doing.

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    2. 5:18. No judging pero 90% ng sinulat mo nangjajudge ka. Ironic ka te.

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    3. @5:18 1. RA8504 as clearly states that it is unlawful to disclose the HIV status of any person unless kung related sa case. in this situation the HIV status doesnt have anything to do with them using drugs.
      2. kung immoral man ang orgy wala na dun ang PDEA. sa kanila lang ay ung pg enforce ng batas. last time i checked morality and laws are two very differenr things
      3. PDEA are there not to spread HIV awareness 😂😂. they are there to arrest drug suspects. again, these two are very different things. not related at all
      4. Pia wrote this caption precisely for people who thinks like you. Next time less social media, more aral. Salamat.

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    4. 5:18 - QUIT USING "NO JUDGING." YOU CLEARLY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.

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    5. To anon 9:12 and 11:45, comprehension please. Anon 5:18 judge the “actions” w/c is very wrong naman talaga in so many ways but not them being gay or hiv positive. There’s a difference.

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    6. Dear gay people,

      Last time I checked, it's also illegal for a person to spread HIV. Being in an orgy makes it more offensive. Plus, confidentiality issue? No one disclosed the information with "who" is the carrier. They just made the general public aware that in these "orgies" there might be one who's contaminated. Di ba madami nang matatakot? And it would lessen the spreading HIV?

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    7. Anon 9:32 you bave a point pero I think tama lang talaga na dinisclose ng pdea yung name para din naman maging aware yung mga naging partner niya before, who are not involved dun sa drug raid. Obv naman na kahit alam na nung tao na postivie siya e active pa din yung sex life niya. And I don’t think people around him knows that he’s positive. So, it’s also a way to spread awareness to those people who have been part of his sex life.

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    8. 12:47 and 1:06. Seriously, hindi ko maintindihan kung saan nyo nahuhugot yang reasoning nyo. Dahil kahit saang anggulo, sobrang mali! May right to privacy nga dba? Regardless kung negative or positive, walang mag karapatan na magdisclose ng HIV status ng isang tao. PDEA apologized because they know that they clearly violated the law. Kung anuman ang ginagawa nung 11 na yun sa kwarto, thats none of our business. They’re adults and they’re free to do whatever they please. Ang issue is drugs, yun ang focus!

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    9. @1:06 Public health centers have a contact tracing system for HIV past sexual partners. that’s the proper way of doing it. Hindi ung ianounce sa media ng basta2x. Please educate yourselves people. Attend HIV forum once in your life. Ako’y sobrang nababahala na ganito pala ang pananaw ng karamihan up until now on HIV. We have so much more work to do!

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    10. Anon 12:47 tumpak! Hindi naman dinisclose ng PDEA chief kung sino e. Sino ba nagsabi ng pangalan. Malamang yung media!

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    11. For the sake of HIV and AIDS awareness ok lang sakin ginawa ng PDEA. No need to elaborate further. Thanks.

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    12. Anon 3:34 as if the guy will be honest enough to admit that he slept with this/that person. And there’s a chance that he couldn’t remember some of them because he was too intoxicated when it happened. He’s also aware that he’s postive but is he being responsible about it? And now, people here are preaching about his rights and what’s lawfull and not when clearly that guy brought this upon hiself. But anyways, pdea already apologized. Happy now?

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  3. IMO, the HIV positive arrested should not be participating in drug-fueled orgies. Even if he is taking medications. Just to be in the safer side. While high with drugs, there is a chance they will recklessly not use protection while having sex. And it's doubtful if the HIV positive disclosed his condition to his prospective partners.

    I agree with Pia that the PDEA et al should not have announced the positive status. But I am in the view too that this incident is an eye opener for everyone to practice safe sex and to be more responsible with oneself whether you are straight or gay. You should not put yourself in situations that could compromise your own health and safety.

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    1. and jan kinulang ang statement ni pia, she did not dare touch the irresponsible acts ng persons involved.

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    2. and jan kinulang ang statement ni pia, she did not dare touch the irresponsible acts ng persons involved.

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    3. TRUE! Maka kuda lang kase si teh para sabihing relevant siya again at may awareness ek ek para sa Miss U title ayaw talaga bitawan lol

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    4. 5:42, hoy Ms Colombia, move on ka na. HIV awareness ang advocacy ni Pia. Close siya sa LGBT community kaya concerned siya. 2 na ang nag Ms Universe after her reign, bawasan mo hate sa katawan mo maka panira ka lang.

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    5. on point 2:13!

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  4. yes that this hiv person is protected with that law. But the question is "does he know that he's positive before joining?" If the answer is yes that a different ball game. He's there to spread the virus. And people should be aware of it.

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    1. THE HIV+ PERSON SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN EXPOSED, PERIOD.

      BUT HE AND THE OTHER PARTICIPANTS SHOULD BE PUNISHED FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.

      PIA SAYS YES THEY DID SOMETHING WRONG BUT PDEA WAS ALSO WRONG FOR EXPOSING HIM.

      SEE THE DIFFERENCE?

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  5. IMO too, dapat na sigurong baguhin ang batas na hindi dapat e disclose kung HIV positive yung tao, so ano na lang to? hulaan kung sino ang positive at sino ang hindi? awareness diba? dapat aware din yung mga walang AIDS, as well as yung mga may sakit, time to be more open minded. AWARENESS for all.

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    1. Ok lang sana kung lahat ng tao na iintinhidan ang mga may hiv. Kaso hindi naman. Aminin man natin o hindi pag nalaman natin na ang isang tao ay hiv positive anjan yung mentality na pandidirihan or lalayuan instead of tutulungan.

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    2. I agree. Wala tayo din accurate stats dahil sa batas na yan dahil kahit doh hindi nagrereport sa local health officers dahil sa confidentiality na yan. At nangiinfect sila ng iba.

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    3. Everyone has their right to privacy. Anong point ng pag expose sa kanila? For what? Ang kailangan lang, i-educate ang mga tao kung pano maiiwasan ang hiv. Hindi na kailangang alamin kung sino ang may mga sakit. Just practice safe sex kung doubtful ka sa sexual partner/s mo.

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    4. i agree 2:28. di lang naman yung HIV positive ang may rights. pano naman yung mga taong nakapaligid sa kanya? health is wealth and life is so precious. kaya dapat aware sa mga biohazard o yung mga life-threatening things na nasa paligid

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    5. Ideally yes, but as long as there is a stigma about HIV positive people, there is still a need to not disclose it publicly.

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    6. Kailangan mo lang idisclose yun sa partner mo. Hindi sa public.

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    7. I also believe na the stigma with HIV will be lessen once na everyone is informed of ones status. Parang LGBT lang dati, Aminin natin sobra ang stigma ng tao but eventually accepted sila. though may ibang sectors na still hindi pa sila accepted. Dapat ganun din sa HIV para walang lugi sa isat isa tutal choices naman nila yan to have multiple partner. Para sakin mas magiging effective lalo ang HIV and AIDS awareness program pag ganyan

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    8. same sentiments, lalo na't padami nang padami ang cases dito sa pilipinas, ang malala pabata pa nang pabata,pero alas, it is impossible because of social stigma,so bale hulaan nga lang talaga muna tayo sa ngayon.

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    9. Earth, the hiv person is doing bad things, he should not be protected by that law, protect the innocent and create Real awareness by exposing him

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    10. 12:43 agree with every fiber of my being. 😂

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  6. may point naman bawat sides ang tanong nalang kung tama or mali ba? kasi same din may mali at tama ang bawat panig haha ang gulo

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    1. and since sinabi mo na rin na bawat panig ay may point, tama lang to remind all parties, any irresponsible acts is an opening and a vulnerability, kaya dapat iwasan, or dapat wag nang gawin. masakit sa loob na mapagsabihan, but sometimes reiteration is really needed if it's the one thing that could save you

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  7. O ayan. May advocacy siya. Wag kayong ano jan!

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    1. Oo di lang sya nagkakape at pasurf surf teh

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  8. Be cautious po kasi. Kung papasok kayo sa ganyang situation dapat alam niyo ang mga consequences. Kayo na rin ang nagdala sa sarili nio sa ganyan. Pwede naman kasing mag enjoy without using illegal drugs.

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  9. May batas tayo on this. Di ata nagbabasa ang PDEA, PNP at media ano? Even with rape nga eh. Under the Rape Victim Assistance Act di mo pwede basta2x e disclose ang identity ng victim and the accused. Yes, pati accused.

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    1. Include the VP for not knowing anything about disclosure 😜 She disclosed an ongoing case about a rape victim who allegedly asked her help.

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    2. It was Prof. Contreras who disclosed it first. Kaya nga sya galit kay VP dahil gusto nilang brasuhin ang kaso kaso nanindigan si VP hindi sya pwedeng makielam.

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    3. 7:24 - DID SHE ACTUALLY DISCLOSE THE NAMES OF THE VICTIM AND THE ACCUSED? IF NOT, THEN NO PROBLEM.

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    4. Nadamay agad si VP. Dios Mio. DDS talaga..

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    5. 11:50 Sadly, she divulged their identities.

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    6. 1:05 - FOR REALS? BAKA FAKE NEWS HA! ABUGADO SIYA SHE SHOULD KNOW. LOL

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  10. Pia acknowledged the crimes of these men. Kayo naman, basa naman dyan. "I understand that what the men were supposedly doing was illegal and they should face legal consequences."

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    1. THIS! MALALAMAN MO AGAD IYONG SUMMA CUM LAUDE SA READING COMPREHENSION BASED SA COMMENTS NILA.

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  11. pia you are not working hard about HIV info dissemination because andami mo ngang maling nasabi. may reason naman siguro bakit inexpose yung HIV status kase kng drugs yun and hindi lang shabu edi nag sshare sila ng needles so automatic they have to trace. ito talaga walang alam kundi magpaganda

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    1. jusko khit ndi ka hiv positive its a no no n magshare ng needles.

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  12. Agree. I think Pia has a valid and clear point pero baka ganito talaga problema ng marami sa atin, iniintindi lang natin ang gusto nating maintindihan. Sa Pilipinas masyadong gamit ang freedom of speech at ang lakas ng CHISMIS MENTALITY na kahit mapa media o government agency, walang sense of privacy and responsible ways of communicating the message.

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  13. I'm just wondering kung ano ang basehan ng sensationalized news na ito for saying that the person tested positive, ano yon ang bilis lang ng results, pagkahuli tinest nila kung HIV positive and alam nila agad agad ang resulta?

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    1. The person with HIV disclosed his status to them because they found HIV medication with him. So I guess, layunin ng PDEA na iparating sa mga naging parties or swingers to come forward at magpatest?

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  14. TAMA LANG YON PARA MAGING AWARE UNG MGA NAKA TALIK NILA. ANO MALAY NATIN NA HINDI NILA DINISCLOSE SA NKA RELASYON NILA ANG SAKIT NILA? AT LEAST MAY CHANCE NA MA CURE NG MAAGA

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    1. i agree with you. e nananadya ng manghawa e

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  15. I think PDEA is doing a wonderful job, yang mga yan addict at supplier ng mga droga, kaya dapat lang na mahuli sila. Nagkataon lang na lgbt sila. But nevertheless, what they did was a crime. Buti at hindi sila natukhang, hinuli naman sila ng maayos.

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    1. 9:34, hindi sila na tokhang kasi sa isang high scale hotel sila nahuli. This means, mucho dinero ang mga gays na ito. Malamang, may mga kilala or kamag anak pa yan na politiko din. HIndi sila mga naka tsinelas at PDEA ang nanghuli, hindi PNP kaya binuhay pa sila.

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  16. To divulge the truth is part spreading awareness, these people who got HIV should be open about their situation, the reason why they are shunned is because the truth about them are being kept confidential. If they are open and honest then i guess people will understand and embrace reality.

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    1. Kasi nga madi-discriminate sila. Sa Pilipinas, even a mental disorder is a taboo topic. Sabihin mo lang na you are seeing a psychiatrist, they'll tag you as baliw. HIV pa kaya?

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  17. The comments here clearly show the state on where some Filipinos are, not just on HIV awareness but also Duterte’s war on drugs. We all agree that it is a detriment to our society but the willingness of people to accept PDEA’s error in inadvertently creating stigma on HIV and homosexuality is telling. These people justify the lawlessness on the war on drugs and the lack of due process, this might not be an example of extrajudicial killings but its definitely a similar approach that some see as an acceptable practice. Before we can grow as a country, we need to realize laws and acknowledge them for these are created for a reason.

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    1. 9:52 Typical, yung police ang contrabida at yung ng orgy ang victims. Lawlessness ka pa dyan.

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    2. 1:33 isa ka sa mga typical, ginawa mong teleserye ang issue. Walang kontrabida at victim, but one wrong cannot correct a wrong. Mali ang drugs period, open your mind sometimes...

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    3. 2:43 masyado kayong politically correct. Jusko, protect the guy with HIV who had orgs with clean people. He should be thrown out in jail. Protect his identity pa kayo. Where is justice in there and it's PDEAs fault the names where announced. Nakakahiya haman kay Pia.

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  18. Kung makacondemn naman kasi ang iba jusko.

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  19. While it was not right to disclose the name of the guy who has HIV, it also boils down to main question, why does this specific guy joined the party/orgy? Or was he not aware of his condition?

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    1. I think he was fully aware, may medication na nakita ang PDEA sa mga gamit nya

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    2. Thanks 12:57, I think I missed that part re HIV medication

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  20. awareness is needed, may it be negative for publicizing the identity of the person involved still it will serve as an awareness and its a lesson to be learned. nakitaan sya ng gamot for maintainance ng hiv. so he is aware na may sakit sya but still gumamit parin sila ng drugs with syringe and nag orgy sila so he might spread his disease. they are professionals already alam nila ang tama at mali. sadly they have to face the consiquences. wag na taung magbait baitan at ipagtanggol ang mali sa tama.

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  21. Based on epidemiological data, it is indeed men having sex with men (MSM) have the highest incidence of HIV infection.

    We are not here to stigmatize the LGBT community, but rather raise awareness with those especially at risk.

    - M.D.

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  22. sa states its a HIPAA violation and can its a possiblity of lawsuit bigtime. regardless of circumstances once health info was leaked and very sensitive the person has all the right to file a case because they violate the HIPAA law im not sure if its applicable in the PHilippines. I know about HIPAA because I was a manager here and they discussed to us how important HIPAA is all about not even showing the doctor's excused to others its a very strict law and needs to follow at all times.

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    1. Truth. At mandatory ang pagdisclose sa police lang i believe, para macontact lahat ng taong posibleng nahawahan. Nalapastangan lahat ng taong may HIV.

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  23. Sana labat ng may sakit eh maging responsible enough na hindi na ma spread ito. Pls lang isipin din nila yung possibility na makahawa sila sa simpleng tawag ng laman.

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  24. bakit nung ms U kp hindi ka ganito nagingay?

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    1. Hindi mo ba napanuod ang answer niya na nagpanalo sa kanya sa miss U? Di mo din ba alam bakit til now honorary ambassadress pa din aiya? Kasi champion siya ng mga may hiv shunga

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  25. in reality, if you have sex with anyone, you run the risk of having std. You and your partner may have the disease without knowing it. Kaya ang magandang gawin is promote and educate people about safe sex. As in ituro ng mabuti ang mga ways and at the same time, i-encourage sila to self check lalo na if you are sexually active. Always be pro active in protecting yourself ika nga.

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  26. susme biglang nagkaroon ng advocacy kuno.

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