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Thursday, November 17, 2016

Tweet Scoop: Jim Paredes Responds to Simplifying the Issue of Marcos Burial as Disagreement between Two Families

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  1. Agree. This burial is not about whether your Anti-Marcos or Pro-Aquino, it's just so immoral and unfair most especially to the victims of Martial Law (even though it's not illegal) to have a former dictator be buried in a cemetery which was supposed to be an honourable place for former soldiers and presidents but it's sadly being soiled and the majority of today's youth either approves of it or don't care at all. Just goes to show how misinformation and ignorance can have drastic effects on society.

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    1. You are right.

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    2. 12:29 i totally. Simpleng logic lang to sana. Talaga madami lanh nagbubulag bulahan. Hindi rin ito pagkampi sa dilaw o kung anu pa naman. Ito ay base lang sa nakikita natin sa paligid.wala na pag asa si 12:41 am.

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    3. why blame only marcos about the "matial law" how about the tapagpatupad nito which enrile and ramos.enrile even challenge this so called victim to file a case. Although hindi ko alam kung anong mararamdaman ko sa mga kilos ni enrile but atleast he's standing for what it.eh si tabako ano na? You can't blame everything ke Marcos for declaring martial law dahil me rebellion during that time and it's well funded. marami ring nasagasahan si Marcos na mga so called oligarchs na mapang abuso at mga sakim isa sa mga famous are the cojuango-aquino regarding the distribution of land ng hacienda luisita na naumpisan dati ni president magsaysay then, pero biglang bumagsak ang eroplanong sinasakyan nya(nangangamoy malansa diba) buti nalang me social media na ngayon at into unti ng nabubulgar ang kasakiman ng mga cojuangco-Aquino.last thing po pala hindi po lahat ng mga so called victim ng martial law na nawala hindi na nakita e patay na me mga buhay pa po at ung iba gumanda buhay(dahil nakataggap ng malaking pera)ung iba nman po nagoyo.

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    4. 8:35 Tama ka kasi nga that time talagang magulo ang sitwasyon saka d lang pangulo ang pwede magdeklara ng martial law that tym sumangayon ang senate at congress
      dapat din sila rin ang sisihin

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    5. Only in the Philippines. Politics here is so twisted, tayo lang ang nagaappoint ng mga pulitikong may pagkakasala sa bansa.

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    6. 8:35 sana hindi mo na sinayang ang time mo para gumawa ng ganyan kahabang comment. Sana nag-research ka na lang. simple lang: Marcos was fully aware of the abuses. Pero wala syang ginawa!

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    7. Marcos formed a new set of oligarchs. So he wasn't against the idea of people monopolizing wealth. He just wanted the wealth to belong to him and his inner circle. Sila ang bagong lipunan oligarchs and remain so to this day even after martial law ended. Pinalitan lang nila ang dati.

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    8. 11:24 Hahaha. I agree with you. Natawa naman ako kay 8:35. His comments were based on hearsay and not on facts.

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    9. the SC has made a decision. DURA LEX SED LEX. so maglupasay man kayo, you can rant and you rave, mag-rally man kayo sa lahat ng sulok ng mundo, at the end of the day, ililibing pa rin si Macoy dyan sa LNMB. para sa akin wala akong paki kahit saan siya ilibing. di naman magbabago ang tingin ko sa kanya- diktador pa rin siya at may asawang ganid.

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    10. 1:07 PM nope hindi po hearsay ang comment ni 8:35 me mga ganitong pangyayari.

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    11. Food for thought, Ano ba ang dahilan kung bakit nagka "Martial Law"? Nasa history books yan, Bakit kinakalimutan ng tao? Para mafit ang narrative na dictator si Marcos? And yes there are victims and I wish them justice, pero paano naman yung mga taong satisfied at that time. Wala pa ko nung time na yun, pero tinanong ko mga magulang ko, lolo't lola ko, kapitbahay, professors, lahat ng naranasan ang buhay nung panahon na iyon at lahat sila, maliban sa mga nag-ibang bansa na hindi na nararanasan ang hirap diti sa pinas, ay pabor o positive ang tingin sa martial law. Bakit sila pinagwawalang bahala?

      History is always written by winners

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  2. wala na bang alam gawin to kundi tirahin si duterte? smh

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    1. Kagaya din ni mocha na walang ibang alam kundi sisihin ang taga dilaw besh

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    2. Because Duterte is wrong.

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    3. and jim paredes is right, i hope he runs for the presidency in the next election so he can run this country to greatness.

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    4. WTF.. are u crazy voting and rooting for him aussie citizen po yan.. paano iboboto ng 16million yan eh dutertards ang 16M. paano mananalo..wag mo na papagurin ang tiuwang kawawa naman..

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  3. This Australian needs to be evicted from our Dear Philippines. Narrow-minded yellow bleeding hearts

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    1. Im sorry but he is not Australian. He a permanent resident of Australia but that doesn't mean he is Australian. He still holds Philippine passport. It's like having green card in USA my dear.

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    2. Well then, I hope that he and the rest of his family do not get their immigration status renewed. It is after all a privilege to receive legal resident alien status from any country.

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    3. Wow 12:48 AM, I take it that you consider yourself broad minded with your "Narrow minded yellow bleeding hearts"

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    4. Oh ano ka ngayon 12:48, supalpal ka kay 3:53!

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    5. He speaks not to represent a party, he speaks as a Filipino concerned with what is happening to our nation. Our government is becoming a sad joke, the president being the hindrance. While his cabinet members may be working properly, trying to improve programs for the nation, they have to keep cleaning up the mess he makes one after the other. Even they might give up when they reach their saturation point.

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    6. KOREKTUS PERPEKTUS.. natawa pa ako sa isang nag commetn, patakbuhin daw ng presidente eh paano mananalo eh galit ang 16 million dutertards sa knya.. so funny.. go back to aussie mr jim tigulang

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  4. true naman. gamit na gamit nga ang mga kawawang biktima ng martial law ayun sila nilalaban ang para sa kanila pero wala totoong tumutulong kaya nga tumagal ng 30 years wala pading nangyayari. Pls lang kung ayaw nyo sa mga Marcos wag nyo na din iboto kahit sinong Aquino ng matapos na din ang issue ng dalawang pamilyang yan. prangkahan na kahit mga pulitiko walang gusto gumalaw sa issue yan ayaw nila masaling ang Aquino at Marcos lalo na ang loyalista ng dalawang pamilya.

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    1. Hindi Aquino v Marcos ang issue, yan lang ang isinasaksak sa utak ng mga tao. Hindi lang ang mga Aquino ang namatayan dahil sa mga Marcos, marami pang iba, kahit si DSWD chair Taguiwalo at DepEd chair Brion ayaw nilang malibing sa LNMB si Marcos dahil sila din na torture nung Martial Law.

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    2. Kasi panay ang apila ng mga Marcos sa kaso kaya tumatagal. Palibhasa madami silang pera na pambayad at alam na natin kung saan galing yan. Taktika yan ng mga akusado hanggang maubos na ang pera ng mga biktima at sumuko na lang sa kaso. Fortunately, hindi naman sumusuko ang mga abogado na libreng nagbibigay sa kanila ng legal advise.

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    3. anu kaso yan teh sa pagkakatanda ko wala pa naman sila kaso naguilty hatol sa kanila. ang may kaso ay gobyerno(dahil na sa kanila lahat ng kinumpiska sa pamilya) at ML victims not marcos vs MLvictims.

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  5. Ha! Pero after two aquino admin walang ginawa to make it absolute that Marcos can never be buried there. Answer that please!!!

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    1. cause Ninoy was one of the victims of martial law...

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    2. Ano daw 5:04?!! Yun totoo, naintindihan mo ba sinagot mo???

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    3. if you cannot understand what 5:04 meant then we cant help you..my suggestion is go back to school,its not too late.

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    4. if you cannot understand what 5:04 meant then we cant help you..my suggestion is go back to school,its not too late.

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    5. i think you should explain it rather than insult 8:21. hindi ko din nagets pero aamin ako. care to explain please?

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    6. LNMB is the official buried place of a deceased presidents and the Aquinos cannot change the interment policy for the reason that it was written on 1947 amendments and will also be accused of impartial executive decision, since Marcos wasnt convicted by final judgement of an offense involving moral turpitude the only branch of goverment can prohibit a burial is the judicial..Ninoy was one of the first ones who got arrested and imprisoned after the declaration of martial law and that conflicts everything for the Aquinos to change the abiding law.

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    7. Ninoy was incarcerated during martial law - nakulong. Lumaki ang mga anak niya na binibisita ang papa nila sa prison. Ang pagkaalam kasi ng marami kay Ninoy napatay pagdating sa airport pero di alam kung ano ang pinagmulan ng lahat.

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    8. Ninoy for being who he was against the Marcos regime and a victim of martial law coflicts what then Pres Quirino signed the LNMB law and policy in 1947 or 48..if the Aquinos force to influence the abiding law then they will be accuse of impartial governance or perhaps a form dictatorship for that lone matter..and by law Marcos has the all rights to be buried there ucause he is not convicted in the court of law involving moral turpitude or dishorably discharge of being a soldier


      -anon 5:04 & 12:06

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  6. Kuda ka ng kuda di kanalang manahimik tanda mo na

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    1. 1:11, mas matanda naman si Digong mo na buhat ng naging presidente wala ng ginawa kung hindi pag awayin ang mga kapwa Filipino. Mag power trip na akala mo poon na paka pangyarihan. Extension lang ang 6 months niya. Pag wala pa din siyang nagawa sa drugs issues niya, mag bitiw na siya. Salot sa bansa, napaka samang tao.

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    2. so ano po magandang gawin bilang mas m agaling ka sa pangulo at mukhang magiging magaling kang lider ng bansa given the chance?

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    3. Ano bang trabaho ni Jim Paredes sa Australia?

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    4. Jim has never offered his services as a government appointee, he is a person who just wants to guard the freedom we Filipinos gained during EDSA kasi he was a big part of it. Kahit sino ayaw mawala ang pinaghirapan nila, lalo na't nakikita niyang papunta na sa ganoong direction.

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  7. Pagpapatawad ang namayani sa kanilang puso hindi utang ns loob

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    1. my dear, forgiving is different from forgetting, don't get confused!

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    2. Forgiveness is only given when a person has admitted and apologized for sins done. But in this case, may amnesia ang mga taong ngkasala

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  8. Exactly! People already forgot what happened to Filipinos who suffered in the hands of the Marcos regime.

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    1. sa tingin ko hindi nakalimutan mas marami lang gusto na ilibing na lang ang nangyari dahil wala din naman nangyari sa mga buhay nila after ng panahon yan. mas busy na ang mga tao ngayon isipin ang kakainin,bayarin sa kuryente,tubig,cable,internet,grocery,panload kesa mabuhay sa nakaraan. hindi naman porket nakalimutan na eh wala na,wala na tayo sa mundo mananatiling parte yan ng kasaysayan kaya imposible makalimutan may mga tao lang talaga mas pinili magmove forward at isipin ang kasalukuyan at hinaharap.

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    2. explain point by point what you read in history books. You are born to have a mind and not just believe everything media dictates on you

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    3. Ang OA ni 4.40. May "point by point" ka pang nalalaman. Iba iba ang opinion ng mga tao sa isyu na yan. Hindi ikaw ang boss ng lahat para iexplain niya o ninuman ang opinion nila.

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  9. Totoo naman eh, may utang na loob sha sa mga M.

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    1. 3 decades, cory and pinoy had all the time and chances to pass the law to prevent marcos from being buried there. Bakit tayo ngayon ang ginugulo ???

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    2. 4:39 Kasi siguro dahil sa palabra de honor ng mga marcos kasi nung panahon ni ramos nung pinayagan silang umuwi sa Pilipinas isa sa mga kondisyon ay sa Ilocos ilibing ang tatay nila. Kaso ngayon may mga ambisyon silang linisin ang pangalan para makapasok ulit sa Malacanang.Isa sa paraan nila sa pag rewrite ng kasaysayan ng Pilipinas ay ang palabasin na deserving ang tatay nilang dalhin sa libingan ng mga bayani. Just shows they are not true to their promises.

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    3. 439 dahil may agreement na b/w marcoses and ramos na pwede lang sila mkabalik ng pinas pero sa ilocos ililibing ang diktador. Libre google wag puro FB

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    4. but the agreement between the Marcoses & Ramos was only applicable during his term. After that, the Marcos family can ask the succeeding Presidents the same request. It was only PRRD who gave them the approval, he also said that he will honor what the Supreme Court's decision will be. And we all know that the SC gave them the approval to bury PFM in LNMB

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  10. Mga pinoy talaga madaling makalimot, kaya patuloy na inaabuso at pinagnanakawan ng mga nakaupo sa pwesto! History repeats itself lang yan! Kelan kayo matututo?

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    1. Hindi naman sa madaling makalimot...
      Napagod na kasi kami

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    2. 1:41 hindi lang napagod. Nagising na din sa katotohanan na napakatagal na nilang niloloko ang sambayanang Pilipino! Kaya nga lampaso nung nakaraang eleksyon!

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  11. Ganito yan, blame it on the lawmakers. Bakit hindi nila ginawan ng paraan na palitan ang rules sa mga nagpapalibing sa LNMB eh based on the law pasok sya, sana dati pa ginawan nila ng paraan yun. Kung dati ba ginawan nila ng paraan na palitan yung rules by adding Marcos can't be burried there due to some restrictions at napasa knowing Aquino naman ang president and for sure he will agree, palagay nyo sa ngayon magtyatyaga pa ba mga yan? We're seeking for justice ang tanong ang mga lawmakers ba natin kahit before helped us to seek justice aside sa pasaring at paninisi ni PNoy why our economy prior him was doomed?

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    1. Try to take note na hindi during sa term ni PNoy nagumpisa lahat ng anomalya, sa term niya may mga nailantad, nahuli, at nakulong. Check the timeline.

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    2. AnonymousNovember 17, 2016 at 1:16 PM <- napawalan ng sala kasi ang sabaw ng kaso! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA

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  12. The biggest act of justice will be if we can recover some of that ill gotten wealth, and not just the mere refusal to bury the dead.

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  13. e bat ba kasi walang ginawa c cory at pnoy para masiguro na di malibing c marcos sa lnmb? ngayon puputak2 sya! and fyi, even during the campaign period, vocal na c du30 na pro marcos sya, so dapat siniguro nila na di manalo c digong para di sila ngawa ng ngawa ngayon!

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    1. Dami kaya nila ginawang paninira kay Du30 wag lang sya manalo pero wala, nanaig pa din ang taong bayan

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    2. 2:24 at marami na ang nagsisisi kasi di nila naisip na kung ayaw nilang mailibing si marcos doon, huwag nilang iboto si digong. Hati din ang duterte voters ngayon, may pro at may anti marcos. Magkagulo din kayo ngayon.

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    3. 2:24 daming paninira kay DU30, Hindi ba Mga Duterturds nanira sa LP? Hindi nanaig ang taong Bayan, 16 M Lang kayo. You won by plurality, not by majority.

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    4. AnonymousNovember 17, 2016 at 1:53 PM <-- SWS survey! tse! mga noisy minority!

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    5. 1:19 ilan yang marami na sinasabi mo? mga bente? hahaha

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  14. Wala akong utang na loob sa kahit na sino kundi kay Jesus lang na nagsacrifice ng buhay niya maligtas lang tayo! Not with the Aquinos!

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  15. hindi ko utang na loob ang democracy kay tita cory! walang democracy kay tita cory, wag tayong ipokrito! oligarkiya meron! tse!

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    1. Marami sa sobrang yaman ngayon ay mga Marcos crony. May sarili silang oligarchy, pinalitan lang ang dati.

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    2. Sa pananalita mo 224 halatang millenial ka. Kaya wag ka magdunung dunungan sa mga bagay na wala kang alam. If you were born in the 70s just like me u would understand how important it is to be free of marcos and martial law. Kung may soc media ng panahon na yun malamang hindi mo magagawang magbigay ng kahit anong klaseng opinyon gaya ng ginagawa mo ngayon.

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    3. 3:52am so kamusta naman freedom mo? Ninanamnam mo ba? Nakakalabas ka ba sa tirik ng araw na feeling safe na safe? Nakakauwi ka ba sa gabi na hindi kinakabahan? Naipaglalaban mo ba ang mga karapatan mo habang nakapila ka sa govt offices? Yes, freedom, may pinagkaiba ba?

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  16. totoo naman.sino ba ang lagi may nasasabi sa martial law? sino nagbenefit ng martial law? sino gumagamit ng mapait na kasaysayan na yan para sa political agenda?sino ang ayaw matapos at ipush ang kaso ng mga yan para matapos ang pinaglalaban nila?

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    1. Kung hindi bayad utang si Duterte sa mga Marcoss ,eh di sana walang gulo ngayon sa Pinas. Kaya nga hindi nakisawsaw ang ibang presidente sa issue na ito. Alam nila, na mag kakagulo ang buong bansa pag pinilit ang paglibing sa LNMB. Lahat ng gulong ito kasalanan ni Digongong nyo. Walang ginawa buhat nung umupo kung hindi mag hasik at mag utos ng gulo. Puro siya problema at intriga.

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    2. Could be gusto niya at hinihintay nga niyang sobra na ang gulo para magkaroon na siya ng reason at karapatan na makapag-declare ng martial law. Kunwari ayaw niya pero pag di na macontrol ang tao, kunwari mapipilitan siya. Yuan ang strategy na ginawa ni Marcos noong 1972, idol niya yon. History can always repeat itself.

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  17. Parang si Duterte lang politikong nagbabayad ng 'utang na loob' after election. Go check your own backyard dear.

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    1. true! disente daw kasi sila!

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    2. 10:29pm mukhang hindi mo nagets yung sarcasm ni koya....

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  18. tumahimik ka paredes! bat walang nagawa ang dalawang Aquinos na nanungkulan bfore if d tlga pwd c marcos ilibing?? meaning me something na ayaw nilang malaman ng taong bayan.
    ngayon putak kayo ng putak kasi me nagawa c du30!
    tas ngayon KASALANAN nnmn ni du30?
    think about it c pnoy nanungkulan bfore duterte and even b4 vocal na c duterte abt Marcos issue,aquino had the power y didn't he make any move? dont tell me he doesnt have enough time,
    me time nga c du30 ilang buwan pa lng nka upo na approve ung issue ni marcos c pinoy pa kaya?
    nakakaloka tong c paredes! pwe!

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  19. jim paredes, what you are claiming is highly debatable. We are now using our own minds and not relying on history books and media reports all alone. In short, the revolutionary govt of cory started all the mess we are in now.

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    1. Sure ka? Magbasa ka rin ng history mo.

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  20. omg is he still butthurt over this? get over it dude..

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  21. move on darling.. u will never get too far with ur kind of attitude.. so bitter with du30 lol

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  22. jim paredes... u have to know u r enjoying the fruits of the Marcoses.. if u didnt know yet, kindly research na lng po.. tama na complaining.. you are too way annoying paredes.

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  23. Justice for the filipinos? iilan lang naman kayo na hndi pa naka move on.. na ayw ng forgiveness at peace??? ikaw, si bianca gonzales, cynthia patag, g tonge at Agot simangot. LOL

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    1. fyi: kasama ka sa nagbabayad ng utang na kinurakot ni macoy. mag aral para may alam:p

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    2. kasama rin kami sa nagbabayad ng kinurakot ng mga opisyal ng gobyerno na di mo nabanggit. wag ka nga mag single out about dyan sa kurakot na yan.

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    3. 3:56pm nagbabayad at magbabayad ka pa rin ng mga kinurakot at kukurakutin pa ng mga politiko natin baby.

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  24. Ang daling sabihin na magmove on, hindi kasi kayo ang nawalan ng mahal sa buhay, naabuso at pinatay. Ang mga nakaligtas nung Martial Law patuloy pa rin nila ipinaglalaban ang hustisya na hindi pa rin nila nakakamtan. Ang mga Marcos umaasta na parang wala silang kasalanan, wala silang ninakaw, wala silang ginawang human right violation. Yun ang hindi katanggaptangap kaya anong karapatan ng isang dictator ilibing sa LNMB?

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  25. hahah di ka tapos jim? anong petsa na?hahaha

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  26. Dear Jim,

    Ang dami mong kuda, sana eh magfile ka na lang din sa supreme court, mukhang mas gusto mo above the law ka eh

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  27. This burial is not about being a hero, its about entitlement. In accordance with the law, Marcos is entitled to be burried in LNMB, as a former military, as a former President. The law does not define any exemptions. Therefore, Marcos is entitled to be burried in Libingan ng mga bayani, period.

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  28. tandang jim trying to be relevant again lol. gray mater turned into yellow mater.

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    1. Yellow mater better than black mater which is the source of division and evil deeds.

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  29. tanggalan nga ng wifi itong si jim paredes. he's so fake.

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