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Friday, November 11, 2016

Insta Scoop: Rita Avila on Why Saying 'Move On' to Martial Law Victims is Offending


Images courtesy of Instagram: msritaavila

94 comments:

  1. It really is disrespectful to say 'move on' sa mga victims. At pati na din yung mga di naniniwala na victims nga sila. Kung di ka naman nabuhay sa panahong yun eh di quiet ka na lang.

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    1. Tama! Wala pa ako nung time na yun pero para sakin hnd makatarungan ung ibaon nalang sa limot ang lahat. Ano ba nmn yan. Dami nakipagpaban para lang lumaya saknya tapos move on move on nalang. Wag ganun dgong!

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    2. biktima ka rin! alam mo kung baket?!? kasi isa ka sa nagbabayad ng mga ninakaw ng mga marcoses... fyi lang kung inde mo pa alam

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    3. eh girl.. "kinabukasan" is way different from 27 years..

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  2. Yes mS Rita Avila, agree.

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    1. All respect for this women. 👐

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  3. True. Move on? Easier said than done. #neverforget

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    1. I just wonder bakit iisang tao lang yung sinisisi niyo sa martial law na yan, may FVR at enrile pa po na buhay na may pasimuno nun. I Gree to Rita, sabihing move on sa isang tao na kamamatay lang at FRESH pa that is totally offending but if it is already passed decades ago, and saying move on that's the point. Sure, don't move on because we are not in their shoes but I know some people who are actually victim of martial law, matanda na sila ngayon they said move on even if it still painful, MOVE ON sabi nila kasi matagal na nangyari yun at inaani na nung mga kaanak ni Marcos yung karma. Tanging diyos lamang ang siyang may karapatan humusga sa atin.

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    2. You cannot in any way tell anyone who experienced pain and loss na magmove on kung wala or hindi man lang ginalanv or binigyan ng hustisya. Huwag mo din gamitin ang dyos sa depensa mo. It is tru na masamang sabihin na sana maranasan ninyo lahat nang pinagdaan ng nagluluksa at naging biktima ng martial law para kainin nyo sinabi nyo. Pero didiretsahin kita sa isang bagay, mamamatayan ka rin, sa natural man o hindi na pagkamatay ng mga pinakamamahal mo. Saka mo kame balikan at sabihin samin na nakaya mo magmove on.

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    3. 1:38 naman oh. Si Ferdinand Marcos ang nag declare ng martial law kaya siya ang may pasimuno. Mga galamay lang ni Marcos sila Enrile at Ramos noon. Bukod sa iyo wala rin karapatan ang mga kakilala mo na pagsabihan ang ibang martial law victims na mag move on hangga't hindi pa naibabalik sa bayan ang ill-gotten wealth na ninakaw nila at hangga't hindi nila inaamin ang mga kasalanan nila sa bayan. Dahil pilipino ang mga Marcos gaya ng mga pilipinong nasa bilibid, may karapatan din ang bansa natin na husgahan sila sa mga kasalanang nagawa nila sa bayan. At kung naniniwala ka sa prinsipyo ng karma, huwag mo sanang idamay ang Diyos sa usaping ito.

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    4. Weh 1:38? Martial Law victim, sinabi move on na? Obviously di mo alam sinasabi mo.may mga napagod na sa paghahabol sa hustisya na sasabihing ayaw na nila, pagod na sila.pero di nila sasabihing move on na dahil alam nilang mahirap magmove on sa bangungot na dinanas nila lalo kung hindi naman humingi ng kapatawaran ang gumawa nito.

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    5. Yung iba naman kasi, lalo ang mga pulitiko, mga personalidad na kilala sa affiliation nila sa political party ay ginagamit ang issue for personal agenda kaya nadadamay ang mga TOTOONG biktima ng Martial Law!

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    6. Nakakatawa ka. ang pag mo move on sa buhay para maituloy mo na mabuhay ay iba sa move on na kalimutan na lang. inani? Kaya ba nakaupo pa rin sila ngayon? Hindi porket nakalipas na kahit daang taon pa yan e dapat nang kalimutan.

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  4. Agree. My parents never experienced brutality during Martial Law but that didn't mean they were okay with the situation back then. Both of them joined People Power along with millions of Filipinos who wanted to put a stop to his regime. But sadly, many millennials love Marcos and think he was the greatest president ever plus they also thought People Power should never had happened.

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    1. Dami kaseng mga na brainwash baks. Nakapanood lng ng video na gawa2 ng mga walang kwentang pages sa FB, biglang naging hero na nila si Marcos. Pati history books about the Martial Law, di na accepted sa kanila dahil di naman daw totoo mga nakasulat dun. Kaloka!

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    2. 12:30 nakita lang nila ang apong si Sandro Marcos eh naglaglagan ng false eyelashes nila kung makapag i love you s twitter wagas!

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    3. Sadly, that is what money can do. That huge money which Marcos stole, which made it very difficult for succeeding presidents to help the Philippines na makabangon dahil baon sa utang.

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    4. They also spent a lot of the looted money on lawyers to delay judgment on cases filed against them and on buying out people's loyalty.

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  5. Don't blame the kids. It was for your generation to educate them properly and to enlighten them with the truth. It was for your generation to make sure that the evils were made to pay. It was for your generation to make sure that the kids today neither foget nor take this for granted. You had an obligation to do something but you failed. So please don't blame us.

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    1. We don't blame you, we acknowledge your misinformation. We could've done better. But also remember, if you have the power to comment here then you probably have the capacity to do your research, weigh everything in and make an informed conclusion.

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    2. So, if the student is too stupid to study history then wr have to blame the teacher? Ano gusto mo? Spoonfeeding kayo? Education is a two-way street.

      Isa pa, mat utak ka to use and filter information. Mag search ka sa library ot internet.

      - In this age of information, being ignorant is a choice.

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    3. 12:34 AM now that you know nagbago ba pananaw mo? Is this really about your lack of knowledge or your stubbornness? PS ikaw rin may obligasyon. Ginagawa mo ba?

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    4. 12:24 Huwag kasi masyadong feeling entitled fellow millennial.

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    5. 5:14 di ako 12:34 but Im millenial. we make informed choices naman, it's just that you don't like most of our choices. I am speaking in general here and not only about ML.

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  6. Ms rita avila explained it best. Kids, please, PLEASE, intindihin nyo. Ang linaw na nyan ha.

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  7. kasabihan nga ang pinoy madaling makalimot!yan ang nakakalungkot kya wag ng magtaka kung ang mga nagkasala sa ating bansa ay hinde napaparusaha tapos ang sisihin nila mahina ang batas ng pinas ay mismong taong bayan hinde marunong tumingin sa mga taong nagkasala,ika nga kung ano ang In doon sila...

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  8. Bakit kase yung mga buhay na marcoses pinipilit ilibing yung diktador na ami nila sa libingan ng mga bayani. Isa lang ang ibig sabihin nyan: makapal lang tlaga mga pesang nila at mga walang delekadesa. Tumahimik na lang kase sila dun sa ilocos.

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    1. BBM is going to use it to further his political ambition. Through the LNMB burial lalo nawawala sa isip ng tao ang mga kasalanan nila and instead raises them up. The worst is yet to come for us with this family's antics.

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    2. Their strategy is (1) to wait for the generation that lived through the horrors of dictatorship to die out eventually, no longer having a voice to stir up memories and (2) for the generation that will be taking over to learn rewritten history that will erase the truths of the past and to be fed current misinformation on social media. They have already waited decades, what's a few more years with duterte on their side?

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  9. Yung mga kulang sa pagiintindi sa kung ano tunay na nangyari nung martial law, tigilan na pag sabi ng move on or move forward. Like what Imee Marcos is saying, na para bang walang ngyari kalimutan na lang lahat. Samantalang hanggang ngyon tinatamasa pa rin nila yung mga nakurakot nila.

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  10. Tama.. kapal ng mukha ng mga taong yan. Nasaan ang hustisya sa pilipinas? Wala talagang pag asa

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    1. Ngayong kakampi na nila ang presidente, there is no stopping them. Yun ang dapat na inisip ng mga ibinoto si duterte, not considering the consequences of such. Ngayon dismayado sila. Ayaw kasing maniwala na may posibleng mangyari na ganito.

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  11. wag kasi e compare si marcos sa mga kakatapos na pres,iba noon ang pamumuhay ay iba ngayon kahit nga US Bumagsak din..

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  12. Her sentiment says it all. You may not believe or agree that the atrocities of Martial Law did happen. Pero huwag niyo namang lapastanganin ang alaala at mapait na karanasan nung mga naging biktima nito.

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  13. It's like saying move on to the Holocaust victims, too. That is a travesty. The survivors may have carried on with their lives but they never forgot as it should never be forgotten. Otherwise, history will repeat itself again.

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  14. Pag naman may kumontra pa dito, ewan ko na lang talaga.

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  15. Very well said, Rita. You wouldn't know the pain of loss until you experience it.

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  16. Tutal lahat naman kayo maka-Diyos, at lagi naman natin sinasabi kapag may masamang nangyari 'Ipagpasa Diyos nalang' or 'Bahala na ang karma.' siguro mas magandang ganun nalang no. Kahit naman ngumawa kayo diyan, may magbabago pa? Moving on is a gradual process... the same as the issue. Whatever the decision is sa LNMB man or not (which is sa LNMB na nga) atleast natuldukan na ung issue, i'm sure kapag di naman pinayagan yan dun. They will end na eh. Pero one thing is for sure naman, it is one step forward from the past. It is a matter of accepting what has been done & wishing that it won't be repeated again.

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    1. Papano ka makakatungtong sa kinahihinatnan mo kung walang katapusan? Walang hustisya at pagaako ng responsibilidad? Ang hirap sa inyo puro kayo gusto instant, simulan lang, walang katapusan at ownership ng ginawa. Kainin nyo sana yan sa tatahakin nyo pa sa buhay nyo. Wag nyo lang kame idamay sa kamangmangan nyo dahil kameng matino ang isip ay walang kasalanan at utang sa inyo in the first place.

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    2. Anon 1:00 Anong natuldukan? Aya at kaliwat kanan ang inoorganisang mga protest action! Ang sabihin mo muli na namang nanariwa yung sana eh hilom ng sugat ng mga biktima ng Martial Law! Wala ka kseng alam don kaya ikaw ang timigil sa pag ngawa!

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    3. You are so wrong in saying natuldukan na ang issue. If that family buried Marcos long ago sa Ilocos where he belongs then natuldukan sana ang issue. They are the ones who has wronged us, sila dapat ang nagbigay daan. Only gullible people believes this is about moving on or forgiveness. "a matter of accepting what has been done?" Obviously di ka apektado and you don't care sa "what has been done" kaya ang dali mong sabihin yan.

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  17. Very well said. Pag masama pa masabi mo Ewan ko sa inyo

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  18. quite ironic,the marcos family said to move on but they hadnt moved on until the SC ordered to bury the late president in libibang ng mga bayani.

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    1. Agree. Why does it have to be us to give way to their demand? Sila ang may utang at kailangan ng kapatawaran. Sila ang dapat na mag give way at ilibing si Marcos sa lugar nila. The fact that they insisted on burying at LNMB means they do not acknowledge their wrongdoing. Pakapalan na lang ng mukha at paramihan ng pera.

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  19. Exactly Ms Rita! none of my relatives were victims of martial law but based on their stories, they wouldn't want martial law to happen again. I feel sorry for those who lost their loved ones. Kaya nga I never posted anything nor making any comments in social media regarding this one cause I respect those people na nawalan ng mahal sa buhay

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    1. That is a correct attitude. If you cannot empathize, at least sympathize.

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  20. Very well said. I felt the emotions of ms. Rita

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  21. You are a woman of substance, Ms. Rita Avila!

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  22. Eto ang hindi maintindihan ng nakararami. Hindi man kami namatayan nung Martial Law pero the mere fact na halos super brutal ang pagpatay during that era plus majority of them are innocent and still those na missing parin up to date. The problem here and the one should be blame here is not the President, but the lawmakers who didn't act tapos ngangawa ngayon. I pity the victims of Martial Law no justice was served. Kung sanang ang lawmakers na matagal ng against at matagal ng nasa position eh gumawa ng paraan para mabago ang batas o eh ano pa ba magagawa dun edi sana dati palang nalibing na yan sa Ilocos eh kaso wala and the court already decided, technically, may rights na malibing dun si Marcos based on Law.

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    1. Yes, Marcos and Imelda were to blame for those victims of Martial Law because they are the lawmakers that time and no one, Si Imelda at Marcos lang ang batas nung panahon nayon.

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    2. @3:24am - Is that your attempt at sarcasm? Please look up the definition of Martial Law at kung ano ang mga kinandado nung panahong yun.

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  23. Corrupt his marcos and killed people but the next presidents & politicians after him are like him rin. Simula bgy captain, kagawad, vice mayor, mayor, bokal etc... Corrupt .

    Intindihin din natin ang context ng martial law, meron cold war. Mga bansa sa tapat natin ( sa west phil sea ) are may communist insurrection kagaya ng laos, vietnam, cambodia.

    Noon may cold war if yun underground movement ay hindi na control we will end up like korea and vietnam among others.

    Now the reason why people are saying move on kasi this ML are used by some politicians for political mileage. I think doon naka direct ang pag move on, tama na at wag na gamitin ang issue for personal political gains.

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    1. Ang nagsasabi na wag naman gawing bayanin si marcos ay ang mga biktima mismo or yung umuusig sa kanya mismo til now. Natural mga politiko ang iba sa kanila dahil sila man mismo dati ay simpleng mamayan na nadamay lamang at umasensyo ngaun or tumakbo sa politika para ipanata na hindi mangyayari ulit ang martial law para makacomment ka dito ngaun na walanv pumipigil at lumalapastangan sayo. Ang dami ninyong dahilan para ikubli ang totoo at tama. Kilabutan sana kayo wheb u experience this in your life.

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    2. Hindi excuse ang mga nangyayari sa mundo noon para maging corrupt at pumatay ng napakaraming INOSENTENG tao si Marcos. As a matter of fact, he can declare martial law without killing people and without being corrupt. Kaso ang nangyari, ginamit niya ang martial law as a medium para makapangurakot at para pumatay ng mga inosenteng tao.

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    3. Have you been living under a rock???

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    4. Hay naku ang utak ginagamit! Hindi yan gagana kundi gagamitin! Putak ng putak tong mga hindi naman nakaranas ng Martial Law! Kayo kaya ang patayin ang kapatid magulang o anak. Anong magiging pakiramdam ninyo? Patatawarin ninyo lang yung pumatay? The height of kaplastikan! Yun nga lang matalo kayo sa argumento eh nagwawala kayo sa socmed yun pang mamatayan kayo? Tumigil nga kayong mga hunghang kayo!

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    5. The martial law lasted for 20+ years. The first few years may have been done for that purpose but definitely the rest of the years are for his own gain. Stop using issues of a few years to justify Marcos' dictatorship of 20+ years.

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    6. Martial law was frm 72-81. 9 yrs lng. Yun regime ni marcos 66-86 ang 20 yrs.

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    7. We'll never whats happening now with the pushers and drug lords will haunt the President 20 yrs later

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  24. Agree. How can people move on kung ang mga Marcos' hindi nga inaako nagkasala sila. Ni ibalik ang mga ninakaw nila hindi nila ginawa. Did they sincerely apologize to those who suffered & families who lost their loved ones during the Martial Law, hindi di ba? Katangagan ang ipalibing sya sa libingan ng mga bayani!

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  25. Move On!!! matagal nang patay yung tao hindi kinabukasan lang gaya nang sabi mo rita avila.

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    1. Hoy anon 5:16! Antayin mong ikaw ang mamatayan ang ikaw ang sisigawan namin ng Move on! Antayin mo lang na kaanak mo ang maging biktima ng riding in tandem. Tingnan ko kung gaano ka kabilis mag move on!

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    2. Let justice be served first, then we all can move along but we will never forget. Respect that sabi nga ni Rita Avila.

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  26. There's A Reason Why The Rearview Mirror Is So Small And The Windshield is so Big, Because Where Your Headed Is More Important Then Where You Have Been
    Move forward but never forget the lessons of the past.

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    1. No. DApat justice muna bago ang pag move on!

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    2. ay like ko 'to baks.

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    3. I agree with you 6:34 but if you killed many innocent people through the course of your journey, the legal and moral thing to do is to stop, own up to your mistakes, and let justice be served first before moving forward.

      Illegal ang hit and run bes.

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    4. Matalinhaga pero wala pa ring puso.

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  27. History is written by the victors. Let us not deny the fact that there were also good things that came out of Marcos regime. Life goes on. We may never forget the pain but we should learn to deal with it as we move along with our lives.

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    1. Plastic! Sabi mo lang yan kse di ka pa namamatayan gaya ng pagkamatay ng mga biktima ng Martial Law! Kala mo lang alam mo kung anong pinag daanan nila pero HINDI!

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    2. 6:39 alin ang nutriban at pulburon??? sng libo libong sapatos ni Imelda or ang feeling Royal Family nila noon...

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    3. "there were ALSO good things" do those good things compensate ALL the bad things? Weigh it in.

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  28. move on daw...sa mga ibang tao pero sa kanila walang move on...pinipilit nila ilibing kung saan gusto nila...kayo mag move on...maraming na nasasaktan sa pinagpipilitan ninyo

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  29. Hope millenials can read and comprehend this sentiment. Some millenials are so rude in voicing their comments kasi naman para sa kanila insulto ang salitang "disente" kaya sila mismo ay hindi mga disente. Makes one wonder how their parents raised them.

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  30. 1 day vs almost decades teh. o sya, wag mag move on yun ayaw, pero yun gusto mag move on e gora lang!

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  31. I agree with her 101%. I lost my mother violently and until today we have not found justice. Move on? That will never happen. Kapwa pilipino ang namatay, tinorture at ninakawan ng diktadurya. Humingi na ba ng tawad ang pamilyang yan? Yung mga nagsasabing mag move on kayo at kayo lang ang naloloko ng pamilyang yan. Magigising din kayo.

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  32. If you listen/read/watch the news today, you can see that the victims of martial law speak so eloquently while those who say Marcos is a hero speaks harshly. Commenters here included.

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    1. True! Kse etong mga so called millenials na eto na nabubuhay lang sa pakikinig ke Mocha Uson eh mga walang alam at di pinagagana ang mga utak!

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    2. Very observant!

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  33. Bakit kasi pinagpipilitan pa na ilibing yan eh wax naman na. Strategy para sa susunod na election. Magaling si Marcos pero inabuso nya at ng kanyang pamilya ang posisyon nila. Sa dami ng kanyang ninakaw, pinapatay at inabuso pano natin sasabihin na mag move on na? Hindi ako nabuhay ng panahon ng martial law pero di ako nagkulang sa pagresearh kung ano ang ngyari nuon. Kelan ba tyo matututo mga Pilipino? Yung mga nakulong na at nagnakaw, nakalaya na naman at nasa kapangyarihan? Lalo lang gumulo, ang Presidente kasi natin.... hay mahirap na magsalita alam nyo na yun kung anong klase syang tao...

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  34. Anon 2:32, I hope you're not a history book writer. What you said just made me cringe. I lived thru the 70's, that's not what happened.

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    1. 8:54 really? Marami sigurong nutriban nakain mo nun

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    2. To 12:41 : Kahit na isang tonelada pa ng nutriban ang nakain ni 8:54 noon, kasinungalingan pa rin ang claims ni 2:32. The fact that Marcos was corrupt and killed innocent people during his regime is absolutely undeniable and should not be kept secret.

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    3. 12:41. That is so uncalled for. If you really read 8:54's comment, the person is only stating a fact. This is also from someone who also lived through the 70s and have seen real history unfold.

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  35. Nakakasuka kasi ung mga taong ineequate na lang ang martial law sa mga hugot nila sa mababawa nilang buhay. Hindi to mga kalandian at lovelife nyo na nasasabihan lang ng move on. Puro memes, puro hugot, kaya ayan, eh, hindi naeducate sa sariling kasaysayan. Ikinacool nyo yan. This is an age of misinformation.

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    1. Good point, 11:06. This generation seem to trivialize everything. Parang teleserye at mga loveteams lang.

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  36. binabayaran pa po natin ang mga ninakaw ng marcoses up to now... inde pa kaya magmove on... baka pag nabayaran na ng mga apo ng apo natin, ayun pwede na :D

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  37. Tara nuod ng dekada 70...

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  38. Anon 10:42, look at 12:41's reply to someone who lived thru martial law. Di ba bastos? That's how the millenials are now. Not only are they misinformed they are also arrogant about it.

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  39. I suggest to those ignorant of the past to go talk to families of the martial law victims. If you can't, look for documentaries. Learn before making an opinion. The good things Marcos did during his 20-year dictatorship is outweighed by the bad that he did. Besides, it was his job to do good for the country and the people. Wala tayong utang na loob sa kanya.

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    1. Kaya tama rin na while it is true na kulang sa information ang marami sa kabataan, mas tama rin yung choice na rin nila ang masadlak sa kamangmangan. One only needs to READ to see the atrocities. They're in legitimate archives. But sadly lalo na itong sa mga nakaka bata, they can't seem to be able to distinguish legitimate news sources from revisionist propaganda. If you read their lack of empathy, the arrogance and disrespect with which they defend the wrong malinaw mo rin mapapansin yung kakapusan sa critical thinking. Nakaka lungkot lang talaga how misinformed ang marami sa ganito ang mga pananaw.

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  40. Rita I admire you now more than ever.. PBB has done something that made you who you are right now, from a simple badjao girl you are now mature enough to understand the issues of our country. slow clap na may kasamang tatlong padyak!

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