Sorry slow ko. Ano daw connect ng Deaf people have voices, sa “but many prefer to sign in filipino cos it’s their first language and their right” at therefore hindi sila pipi???????
Gurl, deaf is bingi; mute is pipi. Gets mo na? Hindi lahat ng bingi ay hindi nakakasalita. Yung iba nakakasalita pero hindi as eloquent or coherent as a person with full hearing capabilities. So kaya mas madali for them to use sign language to communicate. Naresearch ko lang to after reading a novel, yung Maybe Someday by Colleen Hoover. Try mo, maganda sya.
Kasi kung deaf ka esp since birth, pano ka matututo magsalita,since natututo tayo magsalita through hearing words, therefore sign language ang ginagamit sa kanila kahit hndi sila pipi kasi sign language din sila sasagit.
Ang meaning lang ng post niya na yan ay, hindi lahat ng bingi ay pipi and vice versa. Wag i-generalize, kaya wrong gamitin ang deaf-mute for the whole group. It’s a case to case basis per individual.
1:27!! Girl!! CoHo fan rin ako and that’s the first book I read from her works and I loved it as well. Learned a lot about deaf people from that book as well. ❤️
Hindi kasi mute. Deaf o hard of hearing only therefore can speak. Can speak but chooses to use sign language. Parang pinapaliwanag niya na preference ng ilang deaf individuals minsan ang mag sign (using FSL) over using their voice. Hindi po just because nag s sign eh mute. She was trying to inform para di mag generalize. Hope this helps po.
Ang hina ng reading comprehension niyo. Kaya naipasok ang FSL sa tweet niya, gusto niya iparating sa tao na ang FSL ay isang LANGUAGE like Filipino and English!!! Kaya they can choose to speak in FSL and not vocally through Filipino or English kasi doon sila FLUENT.
Ano ba yan there deaf and mute is correct. It cant be wrong. If someone is deaf since birth the he is as good as mute because you cant speak something you cant hear hence the sign language. Now if you become deaf after you learnt speaking then you cant still speak but hardly cause its hard to speak if you cant hear what you are saying unless you have a hearing aid. But deaf and mute is correct. Because if you are born deaf you cant ever learn how to speak.
2:50, please educate yourself! Although there are really deaf and mute people, there are also those who learned to speak even when they were born deaf. Hearing impaired individuals undergo tests and therapy so even if they are born with such condition, they can learn how to speak. You're generalizing them with your sentence, "Because if you are born deaf you cant ever learn how to speak." You are being ignorant! Do your research!
Ikaw ang ignorant find someone who was born deaf that has learnt to speak? Unless theres new technology who can make a born deaf hear but then that dont make then deaf anymore. And please read again para malinawan ka and also relax ka lang and i think you the one who should do your research cause you dont seem clever enough.
magkaiba nga pero meron tlgang tao na deaf and mute. sis ng friend ko parehong pipi at bingi, pero ang gamit nya na tinuto sa sped na sign language is english para universal kht san sya mpunta mage-gets sya ng pareho nya kht ibang lahi
Wala pong sign language na english. At wala ding universal na sign language. Iba iba sila per country. May american sigb language. May british sign language. May japanese sign language. Meron ding filipino sign language
Panibagong categorization na naman ba ito? I don't get the misconception na sinasabi niya.. Kasi bata pa lang ako alam ko nakakabigkas na ng words (pero hindi palagi at hindi buong sentence) ang mga deaf.
Ano ang Filipino term ng deaf if not pipi? Bingi ba? Since hard of hearing. Parang mas di maganda pakinggan 'yung bingi kaysa sa pipi. But anywaaay.. MUKHANG MEMA KA FOR THE MOVIE PUSH MO YAN
ikaw ang mema...tinatama nya na nga para sa tulad mo na di alam ang ibig sabihin at pagkkaiba, categorization pinagsasabi mo jan?! DO YOURSELF A FAVOR, ARAL KA, MEMA BASH KA LANG WAG MONG IPUSH YAN
1:22 Kahit saang English-Filipino dictionary, hinding-hindi mo makikita na deaf = pipi. Bingi talaga 'yan, kahit pa hindi maganda sa pandinig mo. Ang point niya lang naman is, may misconception ang mga tao na kapag bingi, pipi na rin, which is not the case most of the time. Magkaiba ang "deaf" sa "deaf and mute." Deaf people get offended kapag tinatawag silang "deaf and mute."
Deaf is bingi o di nakakadinig at mute nman kung pipi o di nakakapagsalita cgro yung iba nakakadinig pa nung bata pa at may hearing aid at lumalabo nlang ang pandinig nung medyo magkaedad na kaya cgro may ganyang cases. Minsan bingi lang yung iba but not mute at vice versa. Pero meron talagang pipi at bingi therefore deaf mute tawag sa kanila.
Hahahaa seryoso ba to si 1:22? Ano raw tagalog ng deaf kung hindi pipi? Parang simpleng tagalog term lang, maski bata alam. Deaf = bingi. Mute = pipi. Anong di maganda pakinggan ang bingi kesa pipi? Sa isip mo lang yan. Kaw lang nagassign na di sya maganda. Pero yan talaga tamang tawag. Ask mo pa mga bata. Hahaha
Actually no - deaf people don’t like to be called hearing impaired. I teach at the DLS-Benilde school of Deaf Education & Applied Studies. Hearing Impaired denotes a vague description of what their actual experience is. What miss Mendoza is explaining is important - especially in our society that still discriminates - even if they mean well, pity or feel bad? These are still forms of discrimination against the Deaf community. She is explaining the differences in terms which can lead to conversations and greater understanding of the different degrees and nuances of being Deaf. Some other differences - Capital “D” Deaf - have profound hearing loss, and identify themselves as members of the Deaf Community Small “d” deaf do not consider themselves to be a part of the deaf community. These people are often called “oral deaf,” and may be able to lipread and speak Late-deafened- become deaf later in life through illnesses such as measles or meningitis, injuries and other causes, have already acquired English Hard of hearing- have a mild to moderate hearing loss Deaf-blind - have a combination of hearing and vision loss
As someone who works within the Deaf community I am Not understanding the negativity directed towards her tweet or even about this upcoming movie. Ang baduy talaga Ng mga fandom minsan.
It makes so much sense to promote the movie in the context of talking about the Deaf - eh kasi diba the movie is a love story between a deaf man and a hearing woman.
And thank you to the producers for this film. I have not seen it yet but I will be watching - a lot of us in school are.
We are not expecting a perfect movie kasi Wala naman ganong pelikula sa Pilipinas ever. Wag na tayo maglokohan.
Pero at least they chose a story and a topic that is not usual - and that deserves to be seen and “heard” about. Hindi yung never ending OFw tale? Which don’t get me wrong we all love and enjoy Pero stories from home are needed too - na Hindi lang about the kabit at kinaliwa na asawa Or kinidnap na anak Etc.
Lahat na lang tao ngayon sensitive. Hinde porket ginagamit ng iba na pangmock ang isang salita, ipagbabawal mo na sa iba na wala nmang intention na magmock. Diba nila naisip na once upon a time ung mga pinagbabawal nilang salita ngaun eh hindi nman offensive tlga, pinagbawal lang dahil may naoffend.
Sa mga olden times, wala pang sign language kaya walang verbal communication therefore they were referred to as 'deaf-mute.' Pero sa medical world, ginagamit ang deaf, hard of hearing and hearing impaired.
Deaf-mute is a term which was used historically to identify a person who was either deaf using a sign language or both deaf and could not speak. The term continues to be used to refer to deaf people who cannot speak an oral language or have some degree of speaking ability, but choose not to speak because of the negative or unwanted attention atypical voices sometimes attract. Such people communicate using sign language.[1] Some consider it to be a derogatory term if used outside its historical context; the preferred term today is simply "deaf".[2]
Sign language is only speech in a metaphorical sense and speech is spoken word. This doesn’t say against non verbal people but you can’t make people redefine a language to suit everyone’s interest.
Sorry slow ko. Ano daw connect ng Deaf people have voices, sa “but many prefer to sign in filipino cos it’s their first language and their right” at therefore hindi sila pipi???????
ReplyDeleteNaguluhan ren ako
DeleteDeaf and Pipi is magkaiba. Deaf can talk and can be fixed through hearing aid
Deletedeaf = bingi = di makadinig
Deletemute = pipi = di makasalita
1:13 i know. I mean ano connect sa FSL?
DeleteGurl, deaf is bingi; mute is pipi. Gets mo na? Hindi lahat ng bingi ay hindi nakakasalita. Yung iba nakakasalita pero hindi as eloquent or coherent as a person with full hearing capabilities. So kaya mas madali for them to use sign language to communicate. Naresearch ko lang to after reading a novel, yung Maybe Someday by Colleen Hoover. Try mo, maganda sya.
DeleteKasi kung deaf ka esp since birth, pano ka matututo magsalita,since natututo tayo magsalita through hearing words, therefore sign language ang ginagamit sa kanila kahit hndi sila pipi kasi sign language din sila sasagit.
DeleteAng meaning lang ng post niya na yan ay, hindi lahat ng bingi ay pipi and vice versa. Wag i-generalize, kaya wrong gamitin ang deaf-mute for the whole group. It’s a case to case basis per individual.
Delete1:27!! Girl!! CoHo fan rin ako and that’s the first book I read from her works and I loved it as well. Learned a lot about deaf people from that book as well. ❤️
DeleteHindi kasi mute. Deaf o hard of hearing only therefore can speak. Can speak but chooses to use sign language. Parang pinapaliwanag niya na preference ng ilang deaf individuals minsan ang mag sign (using FSL) over using their voice. Hindi po just because nag s sign eh mute. She was trying to inform para di mag generalize. Hope this helps po.
DeleteKahit deaf by birth alam ko pede pa rin makapagsalita through speech therapy.
DeleteMaipasok niya lang yung "right" para magmukha siyang mabuting nilalang....
DeleteTama! Slow ka nga, Anon 1252
DeleteAng hina ng reading comprehension niyo. Kaya naipasok ang FSL sa tweet niya, gusto niya iparating sa tao na ang FSL ay isang LANGUAGE like Filipino and English!!! Kaya they can choose to speak in FSL and not vocally through Filipino or English kasi doon sila FLUENT.
DeleteAno ba yan there deaf and mute is correct. It cant be wrong. If someone is deaf since birth the he is as good as mute because you cant speak something you cant hear hence the sign language. Now if you become deaf after you learnt speaking then you cant still speak but hardly cause its hard to speak if you cant hear what you are saying unless you have a hearing aid. But deaf and mute is correct. Because if you are born deaf you cant ever learn how to speak.
Delete2:50, please educate yourself! Although there are really deaf and mute people, there are also those who learned to speak even when they were born deaf. Hearing impaired individuals undergo tests and therapy so even if they are born with such condition, they can learn how to speak. You're generalizing them with your sentence, "Because if you are born deaf you cant ever learn how to speak." You are being ignorant! Do your research!
DeleteIkaw ang ignorant find someone who was born deaf that has learnt to speak? Unless theres new technology who can make a born deaf hear but then that dont make then deaf anymore. And please read again para malinawan ka and also relax ka lang and i think you the one who should do your research cause you dont seem clever enough.
DeleteAyy ang kulet nga, kahit nga deaf by birth pede pa rin matuto magsalita through speech therapy.
Delete4:33 meron nga, manood ka sa youtube ng mga videos pano nila ginagawa yun speech therapy.
Deleteyeah not all deaf ppl are also mute. Sometimes ppl wrongly assume it to be so.
ReplyDeletesome people assume that those who are deaf has been like that since birth so they never learned to talk.
Deletemagkaiba nga pero meron tlgang tao na deaf and mute. sis ng friend ko parehong pipi at bingi, pero ang gamit nya na tinuto sa sped na sign language is english para universal kht san sya mpunta mage-gets sya ng pareho nya kht ibang lahi
ReplyDeleteWala pong sign language na english. At wala ding universal na sign language. Iba iba sila per country. May american sigb language. May british sign language. May japanese sign language. Meron ding filipino sign language
Deletemeron po english nga yung turo mas marunong ka pa sa sped
DeletePanibagong categorization na naman ba ito? I don't get the misconception na sinasabi niya.. Kasi bata pa lang ako alam ko nakakabigkas na ng words (pero hindi palagi at hindi buong sentence) ang mga deaf.
ReplyDeleteAno ang Filipino term ng deaf if not pipi? Bingi ba? Since hard of hearing. Parang mas di maganda pakinggan 'yung bingi kaysa sa pipi. But anywaaay.. MUKHANG MEMA KA FOR THE MOVIE PUSH MO YAN
I mean kung mali ako please educate me kung ano Filipino term. Baka may makadaupang palad pa akong butthurt maging issue pa haha
Deleteikaw ang mema...tinatama nya na nga para sa tulad mo na di alam ang ibig sabihin at pagkkaiba, categorization pinagsasabi mo jan?! DO YOURSELF A FAVOR, ARAL KA, MEMA BASH KA LANG WAG MONG IPUSH YAN
Delete1:22 Kahit saang English-Filipino dictionary, hinding-hindi mo makikita na deaf = pipi. Bingi talaga 'yan, kahit pa hindi maganda sa pandinig mo. Ang point niya lang naman is, may misconception ang mga tao na kapag bingi, pipi na rin, which is not the case most of the time. Magkaiba ang "deaf" sa "deaf and mute." Deaf people get offended kapag tinatawag silang "deaf and mute."
DeleteDeaf is bingi o di nakakadinig at mute nman kung pipi o di nakakapagsalita cgro yung iba nakakadinig pa nung bata pa at may hearing aid at lumalabo nlang ang pandinig nung medyo magkaedad na kaya cgro may ganyang cases. Minsan bingi lang yung iba but not mute at vice versa. Pero meron talagang pipi at bingi therefore deaf mute tawag sa kanila.
DeleteWow iba talaga yung mga bashers noh? Harmless at actually educational yung tweet ni Meng, Mema pa rin for the movie? 🙄
DeleteHahahaa seryoso ba to si 1:22? Ano raw tagalog ng deaf kung hindi pipi? Parang simpleng tagalog term lang, maski bata alam. Deaf = bingi. Mute = pipi. Anong di maganda pakinggan ang bingi kesa pipi? Sa isip mo lang yan. Kaw lang nagassign na di sya maganda. Pero yan talaga tamang tawag. Ask mo pa mga bata. Hahaha
DeletePC- hearing impaired
ReplyDeleteActually no - deaf people don’t like to be called hearing impaired. I teach at the DLS-Benilde school of
DeleteDeaf Education & Applied Studies. Hearing Impaired denotes a vague description of what their actual experience is.
What miss Mendoza is explaining is important - especially in our society that still discriminates - even if they mean well, pity or feel bad? These are still forms of discrimination against the Deaf community. She is explaining the differences in terms which can lead to conversations and greater understanding of the different degrees and nuances of being Deaf.
Some other differences -
Capital “D” Deaf -
have profound hearing loss, and identify themselves as members of the Deaf Community
Small “d” deaf
do not consider themselves to be a part of the deaf community. These people are often called “oral deaf,” and may be able to lipread and speak
Late-deafened-
become deaf later in life through illnesses such as measles or meningitis, injuries and other causes, have already acquired English
Hard of hearing-
have a mild to moderate hearing loss
Deaf-blind -
have a combination of hearing and vision loss
As someone who works within the Deaf community I am Not understanding the negativity directed towards her tweet or even about this upcoming movie. Ang baduy talaga Ng mga fandom minsan.
It makes so much sense to promote the movie in the context of talking about the Deaf - eh kasi diba the movie is a love story between a deaf man and a hearing woman.
And thank you to the producers for this film. I have not seen it yet but I will be watching - a lot of us in school are.
We are not expecting a perfect movie kasi Wala naman ganong pelikula sa Pilipinas ever. Wag na tayo maglokohan.
Pero at least they chose a story and a topic that is not usual - and that deserves to be seen and “heard” about. Hindi yung never ending OFw tale? Which don’t get me wrong we all love and enjoy Pero stories from home are needed too - na Hindi lang about the kabit at kinaliwa na asawa Or kinidnap na anak Etc.
Now I know. Thank you😊
Delete9:21 "never ending ofw tale?" Sabay kabig na which we all love and enjoy. Ok na sana tong mahaba mong explanation nang lowkey shade ka pa sa dulo tsk.
DeleteNow I know. Thanks for sharing this Maine.
ReplyDeleteSeriously? Meron dito di alam difference ng bingi at pipi? Ng deaf and mute?
ReplyDeleteLahat na lang tao ngayon sensitive. Hinde porket ginagamit ng iba na pangmock ang isang salita, ipagbabawal mo na sa iba na wala nmang intention na magmock. Diba nila naisip na once upon a time ung mga pinagbabawal nilang salita ngaun eh hindi nman offensive tlga, pinagbawal lang dahil may naoffend.
ReplyDeleteThis.
DeleteMas masakit pa na ung mga sensitive ung di naman tlga affected. People get affected kahit wala nman silang karapatan.
DeleteSa mga olden times, wala pang sign language kaya walang verbal communication therefore they were referred to as 'deaf-mute.' Pero sa medical world, ginagamit ang deaf, hard of hearing and hearing impaired.
ReplyDeleteDeaf-mute is a term which was used historically to identify a person who was either deaf using a sign language or both deaf and could not speak. The term continues to be used to refer to deaf people who cannot speak an oral language or have some degree of speaking ability, but choose not to speak because of the negative or unwanted attention atypical voices sometimes attract. Such people communicate using sign language.[1] Some consider it to be a derogatory term if used outside its historical context; the preferred term today is simply "deaf".[2]
ReplyDeleteKung hindi iyan ang naging tema ng pelikula magkakaroon ba ng effort pag aralan o ikalat man lang ang ganyang impormasyon?
ReplyDeleteSign language is only speech in a metaphorical sense and speech is spoken word. This doesn’t say against non verbal people but you can’t make people redefine a language to suit everyone’s interest.
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