Tuesday, February 5, 2019

Tweet Scoop: Kelsey Merritt on Being Corrected on Using 'Tagalog' and 'Filipino'

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  1. A lot of my tagalog friends think that Tagalog is our National language, when actually it's Filipino which represents 9 of the most widely used dialect in the country. And I'm tired debating with them.

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    1. Well, they are right. More than 90% of words in the so-called Pilipino are Tagalog. They just renamed it Pilipino to make it acceptable to Visayas and Mindanao.

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    2. Yep, this was actually taught in school. They probably weren't paying attention then.

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    3. There are so many ignorant people who think theyre so smart in the Ph. Why do you think we are part of the leading countries viewed as the most ignorant yet most arrogant internationally? Nakakahiya nga eh.

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    4. Tagalog is not a dialect. It's a language.

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    5. Kelsey is correct.

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    6. Kelsey is Tama daming nagmamagaleng

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  2. Yes, Filipino is the national language and not Tagalog but Filipino comprise mostly of Tagalog words, words from other dialects adopted as well as loan words from English and Spanish that do not have direct translation or equivalent to our language.

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    1. But whenever i fill out a form for language I write tagalog. Thats also the only option to select. Its like tamil, bahasa, mandarin, nihonggo etc.

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  3. filipino is the culture, tagalog is the language.

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    1. Filipino is our national language. We just got used to calling it Tagalog because if’s closest to the Tagalog dialect.

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    2. Talaga? Eh bakit ang subject ay Filipino at hindi Tagalog.

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    3. @12:36 - WRONG! Our national language is Filipino ICYMI.

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    4. National language is Filipino. And please lang wag kayong magkalat ng maling info kasi ang hirap ipaliwanag lalo nat nasa ibang bansa ka at ang alam ng mga teachers mo ay Tagalog ang nat language ng Pinas. Tingin nila ikaw ang mali kasi sa daming maling nagsasabi na Tagalog is our nat language. Kasura lang minsan.

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    5. Filipino is our national language(it is even a subject in class). Tagalog is a dialect which our national language mostly is based on

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    6. 12:50. It’s their way to fool the non Tagalog. In reality, Pilipino and Tagalog are the same.

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    7. @7:36 indeed. tagalog is the same as filipino pero tinawag lang filipino para kunwari hindi bias lol. they just chose tagalog kahit na mas madaming pilipino ang nagsasalita ng bisaya

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    8. @12:36 WRONG WRONG WRONG!

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  4. Bisaya and Cebuano are somewhat the same, but Cebuano is specifically for people from Cebu. Taga Cebu ako girl, I should know. Then I moved to Mindanao na nagsasalita din ng bisaya, pero di mo talaga matatawag na Cebuano kasi di naman talaga sila taga Cebu. ­čśü

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    1. Pero di ba the Language is officially called Cebuano? Kasi kung Bisaya, paano yung Waray, Hiligaynon..they're visayan too..

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    2. Tsaka medyo may pagakakaiba yung Cebuano at Bisaya slightly. Medyo malalim minsan ang wordings ng Cebuano compared to Bisaya and sometimes madaming words in Cebuano na di ginagamit o naiinitindihan ng Bisaya.

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    3. 1:01 Cebuano is taken from the word "Cebu".

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    4. Cebuano is not a language but a dialect.

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    5. Napansin ko nga rin yan, Cebuano dialect is also Bisaya. Cause my Mom tells me she speaks Bisaya but she's from Cebu so she's Cebuana.

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    6. 2:27 it is a language

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    7. @2:27 Cebuano is a language

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    8. 2:27 if Cebuano is a dialect, it's a dialect of which language? It is a vernacular that stands on its own(has its own vocabulary and grammar) kaya IT IS A LANGUAGE.

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    9. Bisaya refers to the language spoken by people in Visayas and Mindanao. Cebuano, waray, bol-anon etc are variations and thus are dialects.

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  5. Filipino Naman talaga dapat tawag. Like do u speak Filipino?

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    1. puro kc social media kaya hindi alam ng mga yan haha

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    2. But what you call Pilipino is basically Tagalog. Renaming it doesn’t make it different.

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    3. @7:33 tagalog is just one of the dialects of the filipino language. EDUCATE YOURSELF please!!

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    4. 10:10 kung tutuusin, nauna ang Tagalog, and honestly speaking, Filipino ay nagmula sa Tagalog, kaya parang baligtad ata lol(in essence) although since ang Filipino ay basically creole language of Tagalog, it became its own language. Parang ang Chavacano Language is just a creole of Spanish

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  6. Uhnnnn...'Tagalog, Capampangan, Cebuano etc are considered languages as well. If we'll actually look at the definition of dialect "a particular form of a language which is peculiar to a specific region or social group" then it means Bulakenyo Tagalog, Laguna Tagalog, Batangenyong Tagalog are the dialects of the Tagalog Language. Gets nyo ba ko? Makes sense ba? Baka magulo ako magexplain hahaha

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    1. Nope. Dialects sila di sila belong sa language

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    2. tama ka 12:38. ganyan na ganyan yung pagkaka explain nung ate ko na nagtake ng lingguistics. Yan din yung pinakaunang natutunan ko sa kanya tungkol sa languages natin. :D

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    3. 12:38 you are wrong.

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    4. 1:06 sorry kahit igoogle mo pa they are LANGUAGES. Lol

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    5. 1:26 teh, ikaw ang mali ata sa pagintindi lol

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    6. Cebuano, ilokano, kapampangan etc.. are languages. Actually it’s an insult na tawaging dialects lang ang mga yan

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    7. our known "dialects" are actually languages. like cebuano, kapampangan, etc. dialects are just variations sa original language pero same pa rin. like sa tagalog, may tagalog ang batangas, tagalog ang quezon, tagalog ang bulacan. lahat tagalog pero may pinagkakaiba sa ibang words. ganun lang ang difference ng dialect. as for language, totally magkaiba compared to the other. like ilokano vs tagalog vs bisaya

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    8. 12:38, thank you. Minsan kasi mismong textbooks ng deped mali mali

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  7. Tama sya di ba? Tagalog is dialect, Filipino is our national language?

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    1. Tagalog is one of the major languages in the country. A dialect is a variant of a language, example, Tagalog is the language and variants include Batangas Tagalog, Bulacan Tagalog, etc.
      Filipino is our national language that is Tagalog based, which means most of the words were adopted from the Tagalog language but it also has the other languages used in our country.

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    2. Mali siya na sabihin tagalog is a dialect, tagalog is a language, hindi nga lang considered as national language.

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    3. Nope, Tagalog is a language in itself, like Capampangan, Ilocano, Cebuano etc are also languages. Dialect means a variation of language based on region, meaning ang dialects ay for example Ilocano ng Ilocos, La Union Ilocano, Pangasinan Ilocano, if you hear their Ilocano you would hear differences in accents and words. Yun ang dialect.

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    4. Wrong. Filipino ay tao, Pilipino ang national language. Paano magkakaroon ng F ang national language, wala naman sa ating alphabet ang F.

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    5. 1:59 abakada ang tinutukoy mo. Kung makawrong ka naman akala mo confident na tama. Never na ginamit ang Pilipino to refer sa language.

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    6. Haven't you read any Filipino books? The Letter F is now part of Philippines' alphabet same as the letters C, J, ├Ĺ, Q, V, X, Z. They are called "Hiram na Titik"

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    7. Isa ka pa 1:59. Filipino is correct. With an F. Kasi nga the national language is an amalgamation of local languages + some english and spanish words. Ang spanish at english may F.

      Nasa mid-40s na ko. Nung elementary ako Pilipino daw. Pero nung high school ako (same school) Filipino na ang turo ng mga teacher kasi bagong kaalaman/discovery/rediscovery daw yun.

      Now if you are older than me, i can forgive you kasi Pilipino ang nakagisnan mo. Kung mas bata ka naman, aba, balikan mo yung eskwela mo. Do justice to the next generation and the current students and tell the school na archaic ang tinuturo nila.

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    8. Meh, pareho lang naman yan. Pilipino is basically Tagalaog. Huwag na mag ek ek.

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    9. @12:49am- Wrong. Statistically, the Philippines is most dominated with Bisaya speakers. Kala mo Tagalog kasi yan yung naririnig mo. Tagalog has been used as a base in Filipino pangsipsip kay Manuel Quezon during Commonwealth the because he was from the Tagalog regions. Our language history goes deeper than you think.

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  8. Filipino is the official national language (together with English).

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    1. Sa wakas, may nakakaalam ng tama. Both languages are accepted as official national language.

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  9. Wrong! We have a maximum of 187 languages because Ilocano, Capampangan, Cebuano etc. are languages and not dialects of only one language. Igoogle nyo man yan lol kung dialects sila, how could have 187 languages then?

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    1. Nageneralize lang yung word na language. Pero dialects talaga sila. Im surprised di mo alam yan. How old are u?

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    2. Sorry I mean how could *WE* have

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    3. Anthropology student ako 12:55 obviously between the two of us ikaw ang may di alam lol Dialects are just variants of a language like Tagalog ng Bulacan ay iba sa Tagalog ng Batangas. Those are dialects. Ikaw anong grade ka na? I'm surprised hindi mo alam yon? Lol

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    4. This is 1:14, I was actually referring my comment to 1:08 lol

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  10. 2019 na. Why are we still arguing about this? Lol.

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    1. And to think tatanggalin ang Filipino sa college curriculum ang dami palang may maling knowledge between dialect and language. Hay Pinas

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  11. POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. When they declared that Tagalog is the official language (along with English). Some provinces with different dialects (esp. Cebuano) contested it. So it was some sort of "compromise". Pero in reality Filipino is composed of 90% Tagalog.

    Bottomline: Tama si Kelsey for calling it Filipino.

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    1. Ang Filipino po ay ang mamamayan ng Pilipinas. Ang Tagalog ay one of the dialects spoken in the whole archipelago and the most commonly used. Kaya pag Tinanong ka what language you are speaking, you will say Tagalog because that’s the dialect coming out of your mouth or you will say Bisaya or Ilocano or Kapampangan. Ang national language ay Pilipino. Kaya ang subject sa school ay Pilipino language kasi walang letter F sa ating alpabeto.

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    2. 1:56 ang kulit mo,Filipino ang official languange natin..same as the citizenship "filipino" ang tawag..

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    3. Ampecha na teh? Hindi ba tinuro sa inyo ang bagong alpabeto? 80s palang tinuturo na yon (kaya di na bago haha). May f, ch, rr, at ~n pa yun.

      Abakada song pa rin ba ni florante ang kinakanta mo?

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    4. You are right. In reality Pilipino is Tagalog. They just renamed as Pilipino just to make it palatable to the rest of the country.

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    5. Hahay 156 MALI KA! Basahin mo explanation ni 629am para nman may matutunan ka.

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  12. Tama, Filipino ang pambansang wika. Pinagsama-samang wika ng Pilipinas. Pero hindi maikukubli na karamihan nga ay kinuha sa Tagalog. Ang Tagalog ay wika rin. Pati Bisaya, Waray, Hiligaynon, at iba pa. Ang dayalekto ay kapag nagkakaunawaan pa rin pero may pagkakaiba na. Halimbawa, Tagalog ng Bulacan ay iba sa Tagalog ng Batangas. Ang Bisaya ng Cebu ay iba sa Bisaya ng Mindanao. Para sa madaling pag-intindi, sabi ng NCCA, kapag di nagkakaunawaan katulad ng Tagalog vs Kapampangan, wika itong maituturing.

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    1. baks, you had me at maikukubli! ahahahahaha

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    2. Tama si Kelsey. Filipino is the national language. Tagalog is a dialect,

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    3. @110 I love your comment pramis, I really learned something today.

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    4. Filipo is nationality and it also our national language standardized form of tagalog.

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    5. Tagalog is a dialect and Filipino is a language...ano ang hindi maintindihan????

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    6. 8:29 Scholarly speaking Tagalig is a language, wag ipilit na na dialect siya

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  13. Nakakagulat na ang dami palang di nakakaintindi ng Filipino at Pilipino o kaya Filipino at Tagalog, pero sila pa ang nagmamagaling.

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  14. Mema yung mga tao. Bumalik nga kayo sa school. Tama si girl, Filipino ang tawag sa lenggwahe ng Pilipinas at Tagalog is a dialect. Nakasanayan na lang kasi halos similar lang kasi.

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    1. Tama lamg siya doon sa part na lenggwahe ang Filipino. Tagalog and other vernaculars she mentioned are NOT dialects. Wag pong mema, hindi variations ng Filipino ang mga languages na ito.

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  15. Ayan ayan amdami ngaaway away sa comment section kung language o dialect. Cge cge tanggalin nyo lang Filipino Subject mukhang wala nman talaga silbi eh.

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  16. Tagalog is dialect PILIPINO is language not Filipino. Kaya nga may PILIPINO subject noon sa school. At walang F sa alpahete ng PILIPINO.

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    1. Filipino na po ang subject ngayon sa school

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    2. Cgro you are older 434 kaya yan paniniwla mo but YOU ARE WRONG. FILIPINO po with an F matagal na. Filipino st English national languages natin.

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  17. Simple Lang,

    FILIPINO - people of the Philippines and
    PILIPINO - is the language

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  18. Meh, it’s the same thing. They just named Tagalog as Filipino to make it acceptable for the people in the Visayas and Mindanao.

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  19. Hahahahaha....don’t be fooled. It’s the same thing.

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  20. Tagalog, Cebuano, Ilokano and the likes are LANGUAGES. Manila Tagalog, Bulacan Tagalog, Batangas Tagalog are DIALECTS (Tagalog dialect). Sa madaling salita ganito yan. Pag ang 2 tao mula sa magkaibang lugar ay nag usap at nagkaintindihan, same language but different dialect yun. Magkaiba ng punto at ilang salita pero nagkakaintindihan. Like “kumakain” in Manila tagalog and “nakain” in Batangas tagalog. Pero pag ang 2 tao mula sa magkaibang lugar ay nagusap at hindi nagkaintindihan, magkaiba sila ng language. Example, tagalog and ilokano. Meanwhile, FILIPINO is our national language based on constitution. Originally, TAGALOG but they eventually changed it to FILIPINO para hindi biased sa mga tagalog. Kasi FILIPINO is not specific to tagalog BUT mostly based pa rin sa tagalog since capital ng PH is Manila. May bias pa rin yan kahit pano.

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  21. Sa nagsasabi na walang letter F sa ating alpabeto, matagal na pong meron. At kung babalikan ang history, panahon pa po ni president Quezon nung gawing Pilipino ang pambansang wika.

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  22. Ok naman arguments ni Kelsey.
    DIALECT which is Tagalog (etc), is a language which is distinct to specific region while;
    LANGUAGE which is Filipino, is a system of communication used by a particular country.

    Philippines has new alphabet since 1987, Modern Filipino Alphabet, with 28 letters, including the new additions 8 letters C F J ├Ĺ Q V X Z. .. FILIPINO or PILIPINO is acceptable in the new alphabet. SOURCE: Head Teacher Filipino Department of Magsaysay HS QC.

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    1. Yung tinutukoy na "language specific to a region" eh variation of a mother language. Plus anong taon pa yang definition na yan. Batange├▒o Tagalog is specific to Batangas, while Bulace├▒o Tagalig is specific to Bulacan. IYON ang DIALECT at ang mother LANGUAGE nila ay Tagalog. If a vernacular has its own vocabulary, grammar and such, considered na siyang language on its own.

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  23. Yes tagalog is a dialect but it is also the national language of the filipino.so i thereforw conclude that its proper to say that "filipino" is a nationality and tagalog is tha language..

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  24. Kaya ako nangongopya na lang sa MATALINO kasi hindi ko alam ang tamang sagot.....lol

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  25. Technically, Filipino indeed is the term for our language. its being taught by schools! but before using "Filipino" as our language, it used to be called tagalog. thats what i remember from school

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  26. Kung iisipin pareho lang ang Tagalog at Filipino na hindi. Lol, ako I speak Filipino, pero maraming salita sa Tagalog na di ko maintindihan. Katulad na lang ng 'gayatin'. Marami pa yan.

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    1. Meh, 90% of what you call Filipino is Tagalog. Facts.

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  27. Gagaling kuno nung ibang nagcocoment, filipino is the language balik na lang po kayo sa school. No need to explain. Runong runungan yung iba. Thank you, next

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    1. Korek!!! Aminin nila nakalimutan na nila tinuro sa kanila nung elementary hehe. Eh bakit ba Filipino ang subject sa school hindi Tagalog? Actually, ang turo pa sa min nun, Filipino is a language, Pilipino naman mga tao sa Pilipinas. Nagiging Filipino lang pag english ang gamit, pag filipino ang gamit, pilipino naman.

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  28. These are the facts: Filipino = Pilipino = Tagalog. Gets ninyo.

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  29. Eh di sana ang subject sa school Tagalog hindi Filipino, yun na yun.

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