alam mo ms.favila unang una ano ang mapapala ng abs kung kakampihan nila si gretchen at hindi ikaw na senior pa nga...pangalawa bakit kse nag message ka ng mga ganun salita maski na pabiro hindi yan akma sa posisyon mo bilang boss. So now u want another fact finding investigation???
The document appears to suggest that Gretchen has been planning her moves from the very start. Let's be more objective; sometimes sexual harassment has been abused to gain sympathy and power. Read the docs carefully.
I skimmed through it, pero does anybody know what the rejection is all about? Parang medyo may tampo si Cheryl kay Gretchen because of that rejection. That's the only thing I think is inappropriate. Gretchen's problem is, she befriended her bosses. She should have kept it professional kung sensitive sya. They were all friends after all. Gretchen seems sneaky.
ang gaganda nyo. galing sa kampo nung defendants yan... so malamang sisirain intention nyan na palabasin na hindi credible yung complainant. ganun din kay gretchen laban dito sa defendants.
hintayin nyo yung desisyon ng korte at wag umasta na parang alam nyo ang lahat ng detalye. hexenah!
I dont know ha but in our law, sexual harassment is judged not on the intention of the one accused but on how and what the accuser felt. So pwedeng may laban pa din si gretchen
3:54. Di ka nagbasa. Obviously. May mga tuksuhan and mga language na pag yun lang pinili mo mukhang sexual harassment. But if you read the whole article, it shows the kind of relationship that they have. And magugulat ka pa na several times her boss was actually so patient in developing her to be a great talent (contradictory sa sinasabing mahirap ang work place) and that ang daming lapses ni Gretch sa work paulit ulit
11:45 True. Andami judge dito, LOL. sa side yan ng defendant, natural mabango sia. Alangan naman iback up nia ung sinasabi ni gretchen. Bahala na korte dian, pero sa bagal ng system natin, baka 5 years pa abutin
4:15 In summary, sablay sa trabaho si Gretchen. Madalas mali, walang effort, walang depth ang mga ginagawang news. Madalas na napagsasabihan si gretchen for things na hindi niya nagagawa. Marami rin text messages na siya ang lumalapit and mukhang nagpapapansin kay Favila. Which is weird, kasi sabi ni gretchen pinahirapan siya for how many years.. kung ganun, bakit ganyan ang tone ng messages niya, parang ang sweet... mukhang hindi pinapahirapan
Baks basahin mo. It’s really gripping. Just skip to the reproduction of text messages. Don’t read na the law blah blahs in the beginning. Grabe!!!! Mali si GF talaga dito.
In summary, pinabulaanan ang mga nilabas na text messages ni gretchen at sinabing sinadya na hindi ilagay ang buong laman ng usapan at pinili lang ang mga text na ilalabas para magmukhang sexual harassment. halimbawa ay yung shower moment daw ang tara grets, na inilabas ng kabilang kampo ang buong usapan na may binabalak palang reformatting na gagawin para sa show. mga ganung ek ek.. pero sinubukan kong hanapin yung iba pang text message na nilabas ni gretchen kung ano naman ang masasabi ng kabilang kampo, pero hindi ko makita yung ibang text message.
Nabasa ko yung position paper pero hindi na yung affidavits. To summarize, they countered gretchen's allegations with verifiable facts. Pinapakita nila na Gretchen's allegations were malicious and she cherry picked and twisted conversations out of context to fit her agenda and support her case that she was sexually harassed. Their position paper also stated that these 2 individuals have issues on her work ethics and performance. They also added that she lacked commitment to do well in her job despite giving her support and second chances to improve. It is a good position paper. I would like to see Gretchen counter this.
Well this us the respondents version.im still with gretchen on this one.Can u imagine yoyr male boss telling u give me a sexy dance for my bday? Joke or not ,it us harassment plain and simple
Read the whole thing. Sa work, sablay talaga si Gretchen. But the flirting part (harassment, I'm giving benefit of the doubt since these are mere messages. Iba yung phone calls and in person. It's easy to deny eh. Plus Gretchen being so ambitious she might have tried to shrug it off).
Agree ako kay anon 6:28, don't bother to comment kung one sided lang ang opinion, know the other side of the story din. Wait na lang ako sa magiging outcome ng kaso.
hala grabe sya... sya ang nagpapakita ng interest ha... taking advantage of what she thought as attraction sa side ni favila... ganyan talaga dapat ipakita abg whole convo para may context...
SEE? I finished reading all the documents ha. Hope those holier-than-thou people who made comments against the TV Patrol senior official and staff may feel guilty by siding with Gretchen.
The papers clearly show the decency, integrity, support and friendship that the above-named respondents had given to Gretchen since Day 1, regardless of her INCOMPETENCY, LAZINESS, BAD ATTITUDE AND POOR WRITING SKILLS.
The above-named respondents never showed any malice, sexual innuendoes or desire to her. Gretchen obviously made up all the lies against them.
If she was incompetent, what is the main reason for her stay in abs for several years? Was she favila's favorite? If that is the case, then the harrassment issue may be true.
Who knows kung binaliktad lang din si GF based on those evidences na meron sila? I’m sure hindi maglalakas ng loob si Gretchen ng basta basta kung alam nyang pwede nilang ilabas yung mga yan.
Sabi nung teacher ko nung hisghschool, pag mas mahaba daw yung sagot mas mataas daw yung points. So Favila & Asprec ako this time! NAKAKALOKA NAMAN KASI ANG HABA. From text messages to essay. I'm out~
Di pinakita ni Gretch ang full text. Ipinakita niya yung iba at taken out of context. Kaloka. So sino na nagsasabi ng totoo? Proud ako na may nag out na ganitong isyu about sexual harassment sa work place pero kung di ka naman talaga pala magaling sa work at pinagtatakpan mo lang ito ng isyu tama na besh. Nweiz, read niyo full article. Sana lumabas ang totoo
Took me more than an hour to read everything. Kapagod! Now I'm confused. Mahirap magcomment at kumampi without analyzing and thinking about everything. Grabe!
5:35pm, their counter-affidavits have more merit and substance as it was supported by FULL AND COMPLETE THREADS OF CONVERSATIONS, which were taken out of context by Gretchen with due malice on their part.
to summarize nadismiss yung kaso na sexual harassment kay favila kaso natanggal sya sa abs cbn dahil sa gross misconduct. ang tanong bakit binubuhay pa ulit ni fullido yung kaso? tama ba aketch?
Favila resigned because of the scandal. GF probably was not convinced kasi the investigation was internal. So maybe she wanted to push through with filing a complaint in the court.
Ok. So binasa ko sya. In summary, for each of the points raised by gretchen, pinakita ung actual text message between the two parties as counterargument. Based on text exchange, close sila favila and fullido. If you read the full text, parang wala nmn sexual harassment.
Interesting basahin yung exchange of messages.. parang si gretchen yung nagiinsinuate na lumabas sila ng chair.. evident din yung mga shortcomings nya as a reporter at aminado sya many times..again based on the messages above
Bakit naging employee performance review sa bandang huli? Lol Don't know kung sino nagsasabi ng totoo sa kanila but the text messages that Gretchen released were taken out of context nga naman. Like yung "shower moment". Favila meant that she had a creative epiphany while in the shower. Nangyayari nga naman talaga yun.
Sabi na nga ba there's more than meets the eye Kaya I didn't jump bandwagon dyan SA issue na Yan when t first appeared. If you read these documents+ the texts Gretchen revealed, you'll see how Gretchen twisted everything. Gretchen made it appeared that these two defendants were asking for commitment from her, relationship wise. If you read the entire exchanges between them , the commitment the two defendants were talking about was her commitment to be and look professional... "No revealing clothes, avoid being caught in compromising positions" to uphold the integrity of the shows Gretchen are on. I encourage you all to read before you post. Iangat Naman natin Ang level Ng usapin to something more than tsismis, because this is a serious issue.
I looked at the exchange of text messages parang hindi exchange ng high ranking and low ranking employee. Inaappropriate. May laman yung messages nya. Yung kay Gretchen understandable nya she would just laugh them off and cannot be negative dahil hello boss nya.
Exactly. Saka sa trabaho nila, also knowing na weak sya workwise, kasama na siguro ung magsisipsip sya sa boss nya. But if you read the other exchanges umiiwas sya pag may innuendo na yung usapan
Have you read everything? To me it seemed like GF was trying to make a move to get Favila close to her. It was then easier for GF to get favors from Favila. I feel like Favila tried so hard to hide na she’s giving way too much for GF, like so many opportunities that others never had. It’s like siguro Favila liked her pero kept everything professional. That’s just my take. Pero walang sexual harassment akong nakita. Ironically, si GF pa nga ang nagiinitiate ng dinner dates na kung ttuuusin if you’re not comfortable with that person or colleague, di ba hindi ka mag iinvite in the first place?
Very subtle pero yung messages nung Cheryl at Maricar may halong innuendos. Their messages invite something from Gretchen. Makatsamba ba kung baga. I cannot send those messages people working below me. Parang manliligaw ang dating.
Yes that’s what I got too. I’m With Gretchen on this. She has her faults but its a cat and mouse game they’re playing, with Gretchen doing what she can to cope with the situation.
i think manliligaw nga talaga ang dating. nabasa mo ba yung part where the boss was asking GF to DTR? as in define the relationship. mukhang clear naman kay GF from the start ang intention ni boss, so you see bakit ganun yung context ng texts ni boss. kasi for her, may something. of course, di pa din tama dahil boss sya and under si GF kaya natanggal sa trabaho si boss. pero kung yung context nung sexually abused ang pag uusapan, parang wala naman
@1:07 binasa ko po teacher. Opinion ko yan base sa reading comprehension ko at reading below the lines and undertones of the messages at base sa experience ko being a boss and mentor sa few subordinates working for me. I actually don't have any opinion negative or positive about Gretchen before this whole thing got out. Oki mam?
Hmmm,, hati na now ang pananaw ko, siguro dahil mataas sila at sila makakatulong kay gretch hindi sila dinidiretso ni gretch na ayaw nya. Dun namn sa commitment nakalagay talaga na commitment is sa work lang not commitment kay favila. Kalerks!
I still have them too. Iphone stores your messages, kahit na matagal na at kahit bumili ka ng new iphone, you’d still be able to retrieve your old messages.
After reading these documents, and Ces Drilon's statements, saka ko nakuha Yung comment ni Atty. Ursua about the LGBT. Ces Drilon, when asked to testify during the admin investigation, made a comment about Gretchen seemingly welcoming comments and statements with sexual innuendos, from their male colleagues at tv patrol. And so Ces said that it came as a surprise for her that Gretchen filled a complaint against favila and maricar. Ces probably knew of the text messages between GF and these two defendants, and was surprised why GF singled out the two.
I think dahil yung biro nung male colleagues harapan with other employees and probably biro Lang talaga. Ang text messages kasi iba ang dating. Mas intimate, secretive and very personal.
The difference between the male hosts and Favila teasing GF is that she doesn't like the latter and it is her prerogative so if she feels bad about it, that's her choice. It is not discrimination but just matter of preference unless GF blatantly discriminate Favila.
This is the other side of the story. Di ko siya binasa ng buong buo pero nabasa ko important parts. Parang unfair yung Reyes, pinag notice of explanation without investigating properly. At siya pala ang nag recommend kay gretchen maging star patroller at to get rid of Phoemela.
Effort basahin ha. Pero this issue just became more interesting for me. Hindi mo pwedeng sabihin na black and white lang e. Also, bakit tinolerate ng matagal na panahon ang incompetency ni Gretchen kung marami naman mas deserving sa opportunities na binigay sa kanya? Sometimes there are shades of gray talaga.
exactly. pag uncomfortable ka as an employee to your boss there is always a point to make an investigation for harassment, its a big deal. at pag binasa mo, they could have fired her or replace her, hindi yung napaka personal ng mga text parang, sinapsych sya,i stand with gretch. hindi dapat ganyan ang BOSS
Actually di mo nga dapat basahin kahit 50%. To be objective you should just read the exchange of text messages. The rest of the contents are their version and justification. From the text messages, I can see where GF is coming from about the sexual innuendos
Agreed. Unfortunately, meron mga tamad magbasa or mag-analyze the situation with a critical mind. Mas madali kasing mag jump to conclusions or to join bandwagon and put up a pitchfork.
Mukhang professional naman si Executive. Okay lang kung okay kay Gretchan at Okay naman kay Gretchen pero when it comes to work very strict sya sa mga mistakes... siguro kaya nainis si Gretchen.
I read the entire thing (yes, daming time!) I would love to read gretchen fullido's side.
I must admit mabigat ang statement ni Marie Lozano. And I would also like to know the libel case she filed kay ces and marie. Didnt see anything wrong with Ces' statement.
Pag binasa mo sya ng buo, walang halong malice, wala harrassment na naganap. I think GF has a lot of shortcomings as a reporter and the execs were too patient and considerate pa nga sa kanya.
Ayan tayo eh. Pinakitaan na kayo ng ebidensya na WALANG sexual harassment na nangyari, e hindi naman kayo nagbasa. So paano? Kung sa pa-close rin lang, kung basahin nyo talaga itong legal document na ito ha - MAS feeling close pa ang mga text ni Gretchen kaysa kay Favila.
Wag kayong magreklamo kung mahaba, legal document yan eh. Pinepresent sa korte, so kelangan detalyado talaga. Problema sa mga chismoso, pag naprove mo na puro sila dakdak lang, nagrereklamo. Asows.
Sorry, but it really appears that Gretchen just did not do her job well and was grasping at straws to keep it. The text threads were always professional, not even friendly! If anything, the boss seemed to be a no-nonsense kind of person who was all about the job (except for the few times there was “biruan”). If I were in Gretchen’s shoes, I wouldn’t feel sexually threatened—I’d feel scared for not doing my job well. I hate to say this, but it seems as if Gretchen is using the “me too” movement to her advantage to save her struggling career. This is terrible. Mga Babae din ang inaakusahan nya.
Hindi ko pa rin alam kung kanino ako maniniwala re: sexual harassment issue. Pero based sa mga statements ng mga katrabaho ni gretchen, sablay sya sa work, nakakaloka si ate nyo.
8:08 agree ngcomment din ako without reading earlier sana di na mapost. After reading tingin ko bhala na korte. Di ko din sinasabi na mali si gretchen bka my pinaglalaban din. Korte na lang talaga.
Besh, tyinaga ko basahin. Here are my impressions. May mga texts na parang mapapaisip ka rin kung ikaw makatanggap ng, "teka, bat may ganito?". Pero kung boss mo ang kausap mo, mahihiya o matatakot ka magpakatotoong magsabi na nasslight ka na pala. Pero unlike sa accusations ni Gretch, hindi maraming instances. And most of the time, siya pa ang nag aaya, which to me, is like taking advantage of people you know likes you/treats you well.
Another na napansin ko, Gretchen is that officemate na di mo gugustuhin makatrabaho. Mahilig manisi ng iba, tamad, puro palusot. To know na marami artista ayaw magpainterview pala sa kanya, kasi nirerelate niya ang questions sa kanya at sinasali pa mukha niya sa videos, parang gusto niya bida siya.
Kakadisappoint malaman work ethics ni Gretchen. I wanted to believe her pero nagbago isip ko after reading this.
Partial Summary: GF was kinda pasaway, doing things that'll affect her image and that's out of contract like wearing so revealing clothes, mga pics with other guys (na almost gripping her chest), kandong pics.
She's not perfoming very well sa job nya.
She keeps on asking for a chance from her superiors.
She extracted text messages/convos resulting to misleading context that's sounding like hinaharass sya.
My take on this is she's in a no-win situation meaning nararamdaman na nyang matatanggal sya but she chose to just file a case just to take revenge/mapunta sakanya sympathy or whatever she's up to
I read all of it. There are sexual innuendos indeed. May reason kung bakit napatalsik si Favila. Conduct unbecoming of someone with higher authority. Whether or not close sila ni GF, it is not proper way to assert yourself lalo na may code of conduct na kailangan sundin. Legally may laban si GF, pero konsensya na nila yan at public trial. Sa batas naman black and white lang.
magiging hamaba tong discussion na to. unang una, if you sympathized with Gretch una palang, u will still find this article a loop hole para kalabanin ang kabilang panig, but if u try to read the whole passage, medyo confusing sya. kasi kung di talaga nag iimprove si Gretch sa work nya, why not find someone else and bakit they still keep her? pero maaari din kasi nakikita sa knya yung effort to strive more and nandun yung willingness to improve. but then, maraming areas to question on both parties.
The fact na nafire yung Cheryl based dun sa internal investigation ng ABS says a lot about this case. Also, dapat nilabas nila pareho exchanges text messages nila ng buo hindi selective lang. At bakit nasasaktan sila Cheryl nung na block sila nung bf ni GF eh di naman pala nila kilala yun?
I read everything kahit I had to pause several times kasi sobrang haba and I had things to do. But it will really cast doubt on Gretchen’s accusations. Talagang hindi tayo dapat magreact basta until we know all sides of the story, lalo na sexual harassment is a very serious accusation. Ikakasira yan ng buhay ng lahat ng tao involved, complainant and accused party.
dito sa amin, if somebody did something to you and you feel like it is SH, you have to tell the person you are offended. If they continue their offensive actions, then that is the time you can file a complaint. But you have to tell them. Behavior should not be welcoming because if it is welcoming then there is consent.
Agree. Was in the same situation, I felt like nababastos ako kasi one of my colleagues na lalaki ay sobrang touchy. We work in the hospital btw. Pero I told him I was not comfortable sa mga paghawak hawak nya. Tumigil naman sya.
Isa lang masasabi-SUPER INFORMAL naman ng mga bosses ng ABS. Dinaan lang sa text ang performance eval ke GF? E kahit na sinong subordinate na sabihan kang di abot ng expectations level nila e tlagang magpapakalma kalang pr di ka tanggalan ng work. Ang hinala ko dito kaya sia tnxt ng bad review on her performance e para pag sakaling kakagatin ni GF ang bitag na “for favor” thingy eh jackpot sila
From what I gathered, the only thing the boss was asking from her was commitment to her work, good and consistent output, and more effort. Yun lang. Yes i read the whole thing.
They're replying to Gretchen's version so obviously may copy sila ng complaint against them. So si Gretchen lang ang pwedeng maglabas ng evidence? Pag sila, pabida na?
Pabida agad porker binasa ang mga PUBLIC documents filed in court under pain of perjury? Diba pwedeng may sariling isip lang kami para marealize na there are always two sides to a story (and the 3rd is the truth).
Read with patience. Kaya nga when working, use a language that is professional and make sure that you are fully aware of every action you make as some might take it the wrong way.
it took me almost an hour to read the docs...skip q pa ang law churva nyan..hahaha.. My take: 1) don't judge people if you do not know the whole story. 2) A job needs dedication and commitment, if you can't deliver, then you should be cancelled. 3) Never blame others for your mistakes. 4) If you are too sensitive with sexuality and sexual innuendos, stay away. Do not text and invite people whom you are not comfortable with. It says a lot about your real intention. 5) BE HONEST! wag nyo na kaming pahirapan pa magbasa ng mga ganito..straight to the point na tayo..hahaha... haba..sorry...
April 2 2018 pa ung received ng documents. October na bakit this month lang nagfile ng case si gretchen? Ang gulo lang. there are so much more. Wait for continuation...
These are indeed the excalpatory evidences gretchen didn't want you to see. Still, some languages Chair used was not of good taste. Sana simple lang, mej double meaning
Well based on Gretchen’s replies and constant exchanges with the accused, it so appears that she did not feel harassed at all. May pa I love you, angel on earth, and invite invite to go out pa siya. She is twisting everything and it’s apparent in these exchanges.
Well i think other employees could testify about this. Kung ginawa nila kay Gretchen yan for sure nagawa na rin nila sa iba, at kung incompetent tlga si gretchen may testestigo din laban sa kanya.
Why invite someone for coffee if you feel they are violating you in anyway? Diba dpat kung tungkol sa work yan at ramdam mo na predator kausap mo meeting sa opisina ang hihingin mo hindi ka magaalok ng coffee. Kung serial predator sila at may track record na alam na yan sa office.
I understand if ever Gretchen felt violated and that is wrong but it is also wrong to accuse someone with malice lalo't hindi nman totoo.
Need ko na rin wag mag delete ng mga text messages haha. Seriously now that I read itong other side totoo talaga na wag agad makinig sa isang side. Duda na ko tuloy kay Gretchen.
Ano mga baks, bale incompetent si GF kya feeling nya napagkakaisahan sya. Pero naman, meron syang na-air na info na mali pala. Tas sya pa tong nalapit sa sinasabi nyang sexual abuser nya. Sya tong nagyayaya nang dinner mga ganun at minsan pa ay nag-i love you kay Favilla which never sinagot ni Favilla. Basahin nyo, di na ko makaka-laban GF now
Because they're asking for kapalit? Don't you get the meaning ng 'COMMITMENT' na hinihingi nila Kay Gretchen na ayaw ibigay ni Gretchen daw. The whole thing above smacks of double meaning. If someone working for you is incompetent as they're alleging Gretchen is, is that the way you should talk to him/her through text messages and not a memo?
Exactly 3:16. Also i'm wondering why they kept reminding her na pinagbigyan sya, they did something great for her, etc. In a way saying "you owe me", pero inderectly
Took me an hour to finish it and it was worth reading. Let us not jump into conclusions sabi nga, wait for the evidence mga baks. Payo lang para madali, save the photos on your phone then swipe lang.
Close-minded and judgemental people, do yourself a favor. Read the whole evidence presented and reflect, before commenting nonsense. Iba na ang alam mga baks. Let's hope that it will resolved immediately because everyone involved suffers pati na rin ang crew and production team.
Mga naka hundred scrolls ako sa haba ng article at dahil sa comments. Katuwa ang readers! Ang sipag natin mag basa at mag comment mga baks!!!!!!! Parang may exam bukas!!!ha haha
Some messages had innuendo. Question is why was GF given such special treatment and support in spite of her numerous slip ups? Ganun ba sila ka accommodating and considerate sa lahat ng employees or kay GF lang? At that time, did GF not find that strange at all? When did she start to feel harrassed? At what point? ‘Cause there have been jokes and she still invites for coffee, dinner, etc.
The exchanges may seem harmlessly about work, attitude and team work but the way the messages were composed by one party reek double entendres which the other party felt as discomforting sexual undertones.
Ito nga yung problem. When you show motive and lead people on, di ka innocent at all. Play with fire, you will get burned. Also, since uso ang me too, good timing para umeksena. Kahit pa mahina yung kaso, kakampihan yung nag file ng sexual harassment and di din sya masisipa sa work dahil the company will look bad kahit tama na i-fire sya for being not good at work
1. The text messages are subtle in their insinuations and innuendos, but contain insinuations and innuendos just the same.
2. Favila is the one in a position of power, not GF. Her acquiescence, acceptance, and "enjoyment" of the things that are happening are understandable in light of self-preservation as an employee.
3. The excuses for messages such as "Gusto ko sexy outfit ha birthday ko naman diba" (non verbatim) are lame and apparently made to portray GF as a preying woman, not a victim on the receiving end of these inappropriate remarks.
4. There was apparent special treatment of GF, such as getting assigned her own segment producers (non-routine practice) and being constantly forgiven for her lapses and inadequacies. Her performance may shed light on her motives, but at the end of the day this isn't an employee review. This is about what they made her feel.
I read through the whole document. It would seem, from my understanding, that Gretchen was incompetent and did not have the focus to deliver her stories. One would wonder why ABS-CBN executives would issue affidavits (which could subject them to perjury punishable by imprisonment if untrue), in support of Cheryl Favila (who does not anymore work for ABS-CBN). Kung babasahin ninyo lahat ng affidavits ng mga nagsupport kay Cheryl Favila, si Gretchen Fullido ay hindi marunong magtrabaho. Ang tagal-tagal na nya sa news pero lagi siya kailangan icorrect, iadvise, irevise, ipep talk, etc. Sa totoo lang surely may backer si Gretchen Fullido from higher management (or malakas sa management) otherwise kung ordinaryong anchor ka lang siguradong sesante ka!
Gretchen found a convenient excuse that she could not delivery quality work due to harassment in the last 3 years. Pero basahin ninyo, Gretchen pa mismo ang nagiimbita kina Cheryl to go out have dinner, coffee, etc. Everyone daw in TV Patrol created a hostile working environment for her. Lumalabas it was you (GRetchen) and me against the world. Had Gretchen not wondered if siya ang may mali kasi lahat ng katrabaho niya may reklamo sa quality ng work nya?
alam mo ms.favila unang una ano ang mapapala ng abs kung kakampihan nila si gretchen at hindi ikaw na senior pa nga...pangalawa bakit kse nag message ka ng mga ganun salita maski na pabiro hindi yan akma sa posisyon mo bilang boss. So now u want another fact finding investigation???
ReplyDeleteDid you read the full article? Because if you really did, you would not be commenting this way.
DeleteI agree with you 5:01PM. Kung hindi niyo nabasa, wag mag-comment. Masyado kayo mapapel.
DeleteThe document appears to suggest that Gretchen has been planning her moves from the very start. Let's be more objective; sometimes sexual harassment has been abused to gain sympathy and power. Read the docs carefully.
DeleteRead the article first before you comment.
Delete3:54 either you did not read or did not understand the case. Wag ka judger.
DeleteI would also like to read the counter affidavit and text messaged of Miss Gretchen Fulido para naman patas ang laban. Hindi one sided.
DeleteAnon 3:54, magbasa ka dear. Baka kainin mo lahat ng sinabi mo.
DeleteI skimmed through it, pero does anybody know what the rejection is all about? Parang medyo may tampo si Cheryl kay Gretchen because of that rejection. That's the only thing I think is inappropriate. Gretchen's problem is, she befriended her bosses.
DeleteShe should have kept it professional kung sensitive sya. They were all friends after all. Gretchen seems sneaky.
ang gaganda nyo. galing sa kampo nung defendants yan... so malamang sisirain intention nyan na palabasin na hindi credible yung complainant. ganun din kay gretchen laban dito sa defendants.
Deletehintayin nyo yung desisyon ng korte at wag umasta na parang alam nyo ang lahat ng detalye. hexenah!
now ...here is the other side of the story
Deletewho is using who
I dont know ha but in our law, sexual harassment is judged not on the intention of the one accused but on how and what the accuser felt. So pwedeng may laban pa din si gretchen
Delete3:54. Di ka nagbasa. Obviously. May mga tuksuhan and mga language na pag yun lang pinili mo mukhang sexual harassment. But if you read the whole article, it shows the kind of relationship that they have. And magugulat ka pa na several times her boss was actually so patient in developing her to be a great talent (contradictory sa sinasabing mahirap ang work place) and that ang daming lapses ni Gretch sa work paulit ulit
Delete11:45 True. Andami judge dito, LOL. sa side yan ng defendant, natural mabango sia. Alangan naman iback up nia ung sinasabi ni gretchen. Bahala na korte dian, pero sa bagal ng system natin, baka 5 years pa abutin
DeleteNakakatamad basahin. Sino kayang chismosa dito ang may magandang loob na makakapagsummarize ng nilalaman ng mga yan? Hahaha
ReplyDeleteMoral story is don't just judge; hear both sides of the story. You have to read to be more objecitve; wag kampi agad Kay Gretchen.
Delete4:15 In summary, sablay sa trabaho si Gretchen. Madalas mali, walang effort, walang depth ang mga ginagawang news. Madalas na napagsasabihan si gretchen for things na hindi niya nagagawa. Marami rin text messages na siya ang lumalapit and mukhang nagpapapansin kay Favila. Which is weird, kasi sabi ni gretchen pinahirapan siya for how many years.. kung ganun, bakit ganyan ang tone ng messages niya, parang ang sweet... mukhang hindi pinapahirapan
DeleteBaks basahin mo. It’s really gripping. Just skip to the reproduction of text messages. Don’t read na the law blah blahs in the beginning. Grabe!!!! Mali si GF talaga dito.
DeleteHaha true. Matiyaga din ako magbasa pero dito pass ako. Super haba. Mga classmates, ano po ba nilalaman?
DeleteIn summary, pinabulaanan ang mga nilabas na text messages ni gretchen at sinabing sinadya na hindi ilagay ang buong laman ng usapan at pinili lang ang mga text na ilalabas para magmukhang sexual harassment. halimbawa ay yung shower moment daw ang tara grets, na inilabas ng kabilang kampo ang buong usapan na may binabalak palang reformatting na gagawin para sa show. mga ganung ek ek.. pero sinubukan kong hanapin yung iba pang text message na nilabas ni gretchen kung ano naman ang masasabi ng kabilang kampo, pero hindi ko makita yung ibang text message.
DeleteNabasa ko yung position paper pero hindi na yung affidavits. To summarize, they countered gretchen's allegations with verifiable facts. Pinapakita nila na Gretchen's allegations were malicious and she cherry picked and twisted conversations out of context to fit her agenda and support her case that she was sexually harassed. Their position paper also stated that these 2 individuals have issues on her work ethics and performance. They also added that she lacked commitment to do well in her job despite giving her support and second chances to improve. It is a good position paper. I would like to see Gretchen counter this.
Deletemga baks saan ba yung statement ni Miss Gretchen Fullido kasi ito one side of the story , so saan ang mga text messages.
DeleteWell this us the respondents version.im still with gretchen on this one.Can u imagine yoyr male boss telling u give me a sexy dance for my bday? Joke or not ,it us harassment plain and simple
DeleteUng mga nasa square lang basahin niyo. Nagtiyaga ako and based sa mga convo parang sweet naman sila ni GF
Deleteif totoo na substandard ang work ni gretchen as claimed by Favila etc. e di sana tinanggal na ng TVP si gretchen sa show matagal na.
DeleteRead the whole thing. Sa work, sablay talaga si Gretchen. But the flirting part (harassment, I'm giving benefit of the doubt since these are mere messages. Iba yung phone calls and in person. It's easy to deny eh. Plus Gretchen being so ambitious she might have tried to shrug it off).
Deletethis only proves that GF is talentless
Deletebut that is not reason to be harassed they should have fired her as a reporter
Agree ako kay anon 6:28, don't bother to comment kung one sided lang ang opinion, know the other side of the story din. Wait na lang ako sa magiging outcome ng kaso.
Deletehala grabe sya... sya ang nagpapakita ng interest ha... taking advantage of what she thought as attraction sa side ni favila... ganyan talaga dapat ipakita abg whole convo para may context...
Deleteang haba.......
ReplyDeleteO nga sis. Labo pa naman mata ko hahaha pero will find time to read para maintindihan at makita bith sides.
DeleteSEE? I finished reading all the documents ha. Hope those holier-than-thou people who made comments against the TV Patrol senior official and staff may feel guilty by siding with Gretchen.
DeleteThe papers clearly show the decency, integrity, support and friendship that the above-named respondents had given to Gretchen since Day 1, regardless of her INCOMPETENCY, LAZINESS, BAD ATTITUDE AND POOR WRITING SKILLS.
The above-named respondents never showed any malice, sexual innuendoes or desire to her. Gretchen obviously made up all the lies against them.
If she was incompetent, what is the main reason for her stay in abs for several years? Was she favila's favorite? If that is the case, then the harrassment issue may be true.
DeleteWho knows kung binaliktad lang din si GF based on those evidences na meron sila? I’m sure hindi maglalakas ng loob si Gretchen ng basta basta kung alam nyang pwede nilang ilabas yung mga yan.
DeleteHowever, these are just text messages. Who knows what is being said in private
DeleteSabi nung teacher ko nung hisghschool, pag mas mahaba daw yung sagot mas mataas daw yung points. So Favila & Asprec ako this time! NAKAKALOKA NAMAN KASI ANG HABA. From text messages to essay. I'm out~
ReplyDeleteganun talaga pag affidavit sa demandahan mahahaba ang paliwanagan. Let the lawyers defend their case.
DeleteLol!!
Deletekalurkey ung mga text ha parang closeness lang sya kay grect hahaha...
ReplyDeleteNabasa mo ba reply ni gretch? Kalurkey aminado di atey na di sya competent sa trabaho
Deleteyes but they could have fired her.the messages have meaning. imagine boss yan na nakikipagusap sa mas mababa sa kanya.
DeleteYes pero if you read through, nagche change topic si Gretchen kapag parang papunta na sa iba yung usapan (innuendo)
Delete@11:19 yeah noticed that too
DeleteO yung mga matyatyaga basahin nyo na at analisahin ang mga bagay-bagay
ReplyDeleteDi pinakita ni Gretch ang full text. Ipinakita niya yung iba at taken out of context. Kaloka. So sino na nagsasabi ng totoo? Proud ako na may nag out na ganitong isyu about sexual harassment sa work place pero kung di ka naman talaga pala magaling sa work at pinagtatakpan mo lang ito ng isyu tama na besh. Nweiz, read niyo full article. Sana lumabas ang totoo
ReplyDeletegrabe ang drama behind the camera. sobrang toxic siguro magtrabaho sa newsroom ng ABS.
ReplyDeleteToxic sa KAHIT SAANG newsroom bes.
DeleteTook me more than an hour to read everything. Kapagod! Now I'm confused. Mahirap magcomment at kumampi without analyzing and thinking about everything. Grabe!
ReplyDelete5:35pm, their counter-affidavits have more merit and substance as it was supported by FULL AND COMPLETE THREADS OF CONVERSATIONS, which were taken out of context by Gretchen with due malice on their part.
DeleteBinasa ko lahat. May sabit ang complaint ni Gretchen.
ReplyDeletePage 36 palang, I just had to..
ReplyDeleteFashion Police!!
*continues reading*
Ang lupit di uso delete message sa kanila para naitago pa nila ganyan mga proof.
ReplyDeletepwede naman yatang mag request ng transcript sa mobile service provider, lalo at postpaid subscriber ka? (correct me if i'm wrong, though)
DeleteHindi ba normal yun? I also don't delete messages.
DeleteI still have my SMS in 2014.If you’re an iphone user, prolly, you’d understand
Delete1:14 I change phones often
DeleteThat's so true 1:04, pwede mag request ng transcript lalo na at kailangan sa case, kahit pa ilang taon na ang nakakalipas.
Delete2:30 alam ko puwede. Pero mahabang proseso. Hindi madali. Not unless may kilala ka sa loob.
Delete2:05 if your phone is backed up the you can transfer all data on the next phone FYI lang
Delete2:05, even if you change phones, as long as it’s iphone, your old sms will still be retrieved.
Deleteto summarize nadismiss yung kaso na sexual harassment kay favila kaso natanggal sya sa abs cbn dahil sa gross misconduct. ang tanong bakit binubuhay pa ulit ni fullido yung kaso? tama ba aketch?
ReplyDeletebaka matatanggal na sya sa dami ng sablay nya.
DeleteKasi nga lalabas na hindi siya magaling sa trabaho niya, and kailangan niyang gumawa ng ingay to capitalize.
DeleteFavila resigned because of the scandal. GF probably was not convinced kasi the investigation was internal. So maybe she wanted to push through with filing a complaint in the court.
DeleteBest in Essay siguro tong si Favilla nuong nag aaral pa sya! Lagpas lagpasan na sa 100 word count!
ReplyDeleteKaloka ka. LEGAL DOCUMENT nga. Kailangan talaga detalyado.
DeleteHindi lang kanya yung statement. Also she had to answer all accusations by point.
DeleteD ko alam pero naniniwala ako sa dalawang execs
ReplyDeleteAko din. Sorry, Gretchen. Ang labas e parang ang dami niyang assumptions sa intentions ng boss niya and nung Maricar.
DeleteOk. So binasa ko sya. In summary, for each of the points raised by gretchen, pinakita ung actual text message between the two parties as counterargument. Based on text exchange, close sila favila and fullido. If you read the full text, parang wala nmn sexual harassment.
ReplyDeleteyup yun din intindi ko 6:50. binasa ko din kasi.
DeleteNakakatakot mga bosses ni Gretchen.
ReplyDeletecorrect
DeleteBakit mo nasabing nakakatakot mga bosses ni GF?
DeleteInteresting basahin yung exchange of messages.. parang si gretchen yung nagiinsinuate na lumabas sila ng chair.. evident din yung mga shortcomings nya as a reporter at aminado sya many times..again based on the messages above
ReplyDeleteBakit naging employee performance review sa bandang huli? Lol
ReplyDeleteDon't know kung sino nagsasabi ng totoo sa kanila but the text messages that Gretchen released were taken out of context nga naman. Like yung "shower moment". Favila meant that she had a creative epiphany while in the shower. Nangyayari nga naman talaga yun.
Can’t be bothered to read it. Let the court decide.
ReplyDeleteSabi na nga ba there's more than meets the eye Kaya I didn't jump bandwagon dyan SA issue na Yan when t first appeared. If you read these documents+ the texts Gretchen revealed, you'll see how Gretchen twisted everything. Gretchen made it appeared that these two defendants were asking for commitment from her, relationship wise. If you read the entire exchanges between them , the commitment the two defendants were talking about was her commitment to be and look professional... "No revealing clothes, avoid being caught in compromising positions" to uphold the integrity of the shows Gretchen are on. I encourage you all to read before you post. Iangat Naman natin Ang level Ng usapin to something more than tsismis, because this is a serious issue.
ReplyDeletesame opinion as yours
DeleteSame thing here. To gain public sympathy, one has to slice the whole conversation. Better to hear both sides of the story.
DeleteGF compression is so low na misinterpret yung convo niya with her superiors.
DeleteI looked at the exchange of text messages parang hindi exchange ng high ranking and low ranking employee. Inaappropriate. May laman yung messages nya. Yung kay Gretchen understandable nya she would just laugh them off and cannot be negative dahil hello boss nya.
ReplyDeleteSeriously? Which part was 'inappropriate'?
DeleteExactly. Saka sa trabaho nila, also knowing na weak sya workwise, kasama na siguro ung magsisipsip sya sa boss nya. But if you read the other exchanges umiiwas sya pag may innuendo na yung usapan
DeleteHave you read everything? To me it seemed like GF was trying to make a move to get Favila close to her. It was then easier for GF to get favors from Favila. I feel like Favila tried so hard to hide na she’s giving way too much for GF, like so many opportunities that others never had. It’s like siguro Favila liked her pero kept everything professional. That’s just my take. Pero walang sexual harassment akong nakita. Ironically, si GF pa nga ang nagiinitiate ng dinner dates na kung ttuuusin if you’re not comfortable with that person or colleague, di ba hindi ka mag iinvite in the first place?
DeleteTotally agree
DeleteTOTALLY with you on that 1:22. Yan din ang point ko, sabihin nating Favila made her feel uncomfortable - so bakit si GF e nagyayaya pa lumabas?
DeletePanalo!
ReplyDeleteVery subtle pero yung messages nung Cheryl at Maricar may halong innuendos. Their messages invite something from Gretchen. Makatsamba ba kung baga. I cannot send those messages people working below me. Parang manliligaw ang dating.
ReplyDeleteexactly! kung mas mababa sayo you won’t send those messagesz. may meaning. pag dito yan, boss ka tapos ganyan ka magsalita, harassment yan,
DeleteYes that’s what I got too. I’m
DeleteWith Gretchen on this. She has her faults but its a cat and mouse game they’re playing, with Gretchen doing what she can to cope with the situation.
i think manliligaw nga talaga ang dating. nabasa mo ba yung part where the boss was asking GF to DTR? as in define the relationship. mukhang clear naman kay GF from the start ang intention ni boss, so you see bakit ganun yung context ng texts ni boss. kasi for her, may something. of course, di pa din tama dahil boss sya and under si GF kaya natanggal sa trabaho si boss. pero kung yung context nung sexually abused ang pag uusapan, parang wala naman
Deletenabasa mo ba talaga? or nag base ka lang sa kung anong ni-release ng kampo ni gretchen?
Delete@1:07 binasa ko po teacher. Opinion ko yan base sa reading comprehension ko at reading below the lines and undertones of the messages at base sa experience ko being a boss and mentor sa few subordinates working for me. I actually don't have any opinion negative or positive about Gretchen before this whole thing got out. Oki mam?
DeletePansin ko lng january 2018 pa yang mga docs? Nalito ako kla ko kaka file lang.
ReplyDeleteI think these docs were used/ submitted for abscbn 's internal investogation
Deletethose were the same docs submitted during the internal investigation sa ABS.
DeleteHmmm,, hati na now ang pananaw ko, siguro dahil mataas sila at sila makakatulong kay gretch hindi sila dinidiretso ni gretch na ayaw nya. Dun namn sa commitment nakalagay talaga na commitment is sa work lang not commitment kay favila. Kalerks!
ReplyDeleteTexts messages from three years ago natabi pa niya? Wow! Ako nga burado na nga e at nakalimutan ko na din. Hahaha.
ReplyDeleteProbably nakaramdam syang gagawin toh ni GF
Deletepwede naman kasi mag request ng copy ng text messages sa mobile service provider, lalo at kailangan sa legal proceedings.
DeleteI still have them too. Iphone stores your messages, kahit na matagal na at kahit bumili ka ng new iphone, you’d still be able to retrieve your old messages.
DeleteIf tamad ka mag delete messages possible yan girl
DeleteAfter reading these documents, and Ces Drilon's statements, saka ko nakuha Yung comment ni Atty. Ursua about the LGBT. Ces Drilon, when asked to testify during the admin investigation, made a comment about Gretchen seemingly welcoming comments and statements with sexual innuendos, from their male colleagues at tv patrol. And so Ces said that it came as a surprise for her that Gretchen filled a complaint against favila and maricar. Ces probably knew of the text messages between GF and these two defendants, and was surprised why GF singled out the two.
ReplyDeleteI think dahil yung biro nung male colleagues harapan with other employees and probably biro Lang talaga. Ang text messages kasi iba ang dating. Mas intimate, secretive and very personal.
DeleteThe difference between the male hosts and Favila teasing GF is that she doesn't like the latter and it is her prerogative so if she feels bad about it, that's her choice. It is not discrimination but just matter of preference unless GF blatantly discriminate Favila.
DeleteThis is the other side of the story. Di ko siya binasa ng buong buo pero nabasa ko important parts. Parang unfair yung Reyes, pinag notice of explanation without investigating properly. At siya pala ang nag recommend kay gretchen maging star patroller at to get rid of Phoemela.
ReplyDeleteEffort basahin ha. Pero this issue just became more interesting for me. Hindi mo pwedeng sabihin na black and white lang e. Also, bakit tinolerate ng matagal na panahon ang incompetency ni Gretchen kung marami naman mas deserving sa opportunities na binigay sa kanya? Sometimes there are shades of gray talaga.
ReplyDeleteexactly. pag uncomfortable ka as an employee to your boss there is always a point to make an investigation for harassment, its a big deal. at pag binasa mo, they could have fired her or replace her, hindi yung napaka personal ng mga text parang, sinapsych sya,i stand with gretch. hindi dapat ganyan ang BOSS
Deletei think people who have not read at least 50% of this post should not comment
ReplyDeleteyes agree
DeleteActually di mo nga dapat basahin kahit 50%. To be objective you should just read the exchange of text messages. The rest of the contents are their version and justification. From the text messages, I can see where GF is coming from about the sexual innuendos
DeleteTRUE NA TRUE.
DeleteAgreed. Unfortunately, meron mga tamad magbasa or mag-analyze the situation with a critical mind. Mas madali kasing mag jump to conclusions or to join bandwagon and put up a pitchfork.
DeleteMukhang professional naman si Executive. Okay lang kung okay kay Gretchan at Okay naman kay Gretchen pero when it comes to work very strict sya sa mga mistakes... siguro kaya nainis si Gretchen.
ReplyDeleteI read the entire thing (yes, daming time!) I would love to read gretchen fullido's side.
ReplyDeleteI must admit mabigat ang statement ni Marie Lozano. And I would also like to know the libel case she filed kay ces and marie. Didnt see anything wrong with Ces' statement.
Pag binasa mo sya ng buo, walang halong malice, wala harrassment na naganap. I think GF has a lot of shortcomings as a reporter and the execs were too patient and considerate pa nga sa kanya.
ReplyDeleteParang di nasagot un about sa message na i miss you.. minsan kelangan mo din ng lambing sa katawan.. keme
ReplyDeleteOo nga hinahanap ko din yun. Meron pang isang part na may na mention na hirit pero hindi inaddress
DeleteAyan tayo eh. Pinakitaan na kayo ng ebidensya na WALANG sexual harassment na nangyari, e hindi naman kayo nagbasa. So paano?
ReplyDeleteKung sa pa-close rin lang, kung basahin nyo talaga itong legal document na ito ha - MAS feeling close pa ang mga text ni Gretchen kaysa kay Favila.
Wag kayong magreklamo kung mahaba, legal document yan eh. Pinepresent sa korte, so kelangan detalyado talaga. Problema sa mga chismoso, pag naprove mo na puro sila dakdak lang, nagrereklamo. Asows.
Sorry, but it really appears that Gretchen just did not do her job well and was grasping at straws to keep it. The text threads were always professional, not even friendly! If anything, the boss seemed to be a no-nonsense kind of person who was all about the job (except for the few times there was “biruan”). If I were in Gretchen’s shoes, I wouldn’t feel sexually threatened—I’d feel scared for not doing my job well. I hate to say this, but it seems as if Gretchen is using the “me too” movement to her advantage to save her struggling career. This is terrible. Mga Babae din ang inaakusahan nya.
ReplyDeleteHindi ko pa rin alam kung kanino ako maniniwala re: sexual harassment issue. Pero based sa mga statements ng mga katrabaho ni gretchen, sablay sya sa work, nakakaloka si ate nyo.
ReplyDelete8:08 agree ngcomment din ako without reading earlier sana di na mapost. After reading tingin ko bhala na korte. Di ko din sinasabi na mali si gretchen bka my pinaglalaban din. Korte na lang talaga.
ReplyDeleteBesh, tyinaga ko basahin. Here are my impressions. May mga texts na parang mapapaisip ka rin kung ikaw makatanggap ng, "teka, bat may ganito?". Pero kung boss mo ang kausap mo, mahihiya o matatakot ka magpakatotoong magsabi na nasslight ka na pala. Pero unlike sa accusations ni Gretch, hindi maraming instances. And most of the time, siya pa ang nag aaya, which to me, is like taking advantage of people you know likes you/treats you well.
ReplyDeleteAnother na napansin ko, Gretchen is that officemate na di mo gugustuhin makatrabaho. Mahilig manisi ng iba, tamad, puro palusot. To know na marami artista ayaw magpainterview pala sa kanya, kasi nirerelate niya ang questions sa kanya at sinasali pa mukha niya sa videos, parang gusto niya bida siya.
Kakadisappoint malaman work ethics ni Gretchen. I wanted to believe her pero nagbago isip ko after reading this.
Text lang yan. Iba ang actual conversations. This is not enough to prove that they are off the hook.
ReplyDeleteagree there is another story behind d texts..
Deleteyan ay yung actual encounters nila
Partial Summary:
ReplyDeleteGF was kinda pasaway, doing things that'll affect her image and that's out of contract like wearing so revealing clothes, mga pics with other guys (na almost gripping her chest), kandong pics.
She's not perfoming very well sa job nya.
She keeps on asking for a chance from her superiors.
She extracted text messages/convos resulting to misleading context that's sounding like hinaharass sya.
My take on this is she's in a no-win situation meaning nararamdaman na nyang matatanggal sya but she chose to just file a case just to take revenge/mapunta sakanya sympathy or whatever she's up to
Mahirap mag judge, yun ang take ko.
DeleteOhh! Now i feel bad for commenting that theyre using their lgbt card cos apparently si GF ang gumagamit ng kanyang girly card ngayon
ReplyDeleteI read all of it. There are sexual innuendos indeed. May reason kung bakit napatalsik si Favila. Conduct unbecoming of someone with higher authority. Whether or not close sila ni GF, it is not proper way to assert yourself lalo na may code of conduct na kailangan sundin. Legally may laban si GF, pero konsensya na nila yan at public trial. Sa batas naman black and white lang.
ReplyDeleteIve read it..may sablay si gretchen din pala. Mapapahiya lang sya sa kaso.
ReplyDeleteLoaded naman talaga messages nung mga boss ni gf. Siempre di mo naman pwede barahin ang boss mo.
ReplyDeleteTama!
Deletemagiging hamaba tong discussion na to.
ReplyDeleteunang una, if you sympathized with Gretch una palang, u will still find this article a loop hole para kalabanin ang kabilang panig, but if u try to read the whole passage, medyo confusing sya. kasi kung di talaga nag iimprove si Gretch sa work nya, why not find someone else and bakit they still keep her? pero maaari din kasi nakikita sa knya yung effort to strive more and nandun yung willingness to improve. but then, maraming areas to question on both parties.
The fact na nafire yung Cheryl based dun sa internal investigation ng ABS says a lot about this case. Also, dapat nilabas nila pareho exchanges text messages nila ng buo hindi selective lang. At bakit nasasaktan sila Cheryl nung na block sila nung bf ni GF eh di naman pala nila kilala yun?
ReplyDeleteGrabe. Ngayong nabasa ko ito, biglang nag-iba pananaw ko.
ReplyDeleteI read everything kahit I had to pause several times kasi sobrang haba and I had things to do. But it will really cast doubt on Gretchen’s accusations. Talagang hindi tayo dapat magreact basta until we know all sides of the story, lalo na sexual harassment is a very serious accusation. Ikakasira yan ng buhay ng lahat ng tao involved, complainant and accused party.
ReplyDeletedito sa amin, if somebody did something to you and you feel like it is SH, you have to tell the person you are offended. If they continue their offensive actions, then that is the time you can file a complaint. But you have to tell them. Behavior should not be welcoming because if it is welcoming then there is consent.
ReplyDeleteAgree. Was in the same situation, I felt like nababastos ako kasi one of my colleagues na lalaki ay sobrang touchy. We work in the hospital btw. Pero I told him I was not comfortable sa mga paghawak hawak nya. Tumigil naman sya.
DeleteGF did not mind ofc.
DeleteDepende sa environment yan, wag tayo magvictim blame
DeleteIsa lang masasabi-SUPER INFORMAL naman ng mga bosses ng ABS. Dinaan lang sa text ang performance eval ke GF? E kahit na sinong subordinate na sabihan kang di abot ng expectations level nila e tlagang magpapakalma kalang pr di ka tanggalan ng work. Ang hinala ko dito kaya sia tnxt ng bad review on her performance e para pag sakaling kakagatin ni GF ang bitag na “for favor” thingy eh jackpot sila
ReplyDeleteThis could be true.
DeleteAlso, why keep saying na "i did this for you" ganyan ganyan. Like asking for something in return.
DeleteFrom what I gathered, the only thing the boss was asking from her was commitment to her work, good and consistent output, and more effort. Yun lang. Yes i read the whole thing.
DeleteWhat you read was NOT a performance evaluation. Ibang tao ang nagbibigay non kay Gretchen.
DeleteThis is their version and they can twist the narrative to favor themselves. Wag kayong pabida, di nyo pa nkita buong complaint ni Gretchen.
ReplyDeleteJust like gretchen can twist the story to favor her
DeleteThey're replying to Gretchen's version so obviously may copy sila ng complaint against them. So si Gretchen lang ang pwedeng maglabas ng evidence? Pag sila, pabida na?
DeletePabida agad porker binasa ang mga PUBLIC documents filed in court under pain of perjury? Diba pwedeng may sariling isip lang kami para marealize na there are always two sides to a story (and the 3rd is the truth).
DeleteRead with patience. Kaya nga when working, use a language that is professional and make sure that you are fully aware of every action you make as some might take it the wrong way.
ReplyDeleteReading this made things clear-er.question is, why did GF selected texts and didn't post the entire convo
ReplyDeleteit took me almost an hour to read the docs...skip q pa ang law churva nyan..hahaha.. My take: 1) don't judge people if you do not know the whole story.
ReplyDelete2) A job needs dedication and commitment, if you can't deliver, then you should be cancelled.
3) Never blame others for your mistakes.
4) If you are too sensitive with sexuality and sexual innuendos, stay away. Do not text and invite people whom you are not comfortable with. It says a lot about your real intention.
5) BE HONEST! wag nyo na kaming pahirapan pa magbasa ng mga ganito..straight to the point na tayo..hahaha...
haba..sorry...
April 2 2018 pa ung received ng documents. October na bakit this month lang nagfile ng case si gretchen? Ang gulo lang. there are so much more. Wait for continuation...
ReplyDeleteShe filed previously, kaya Cheryl was fired
DeleteThese are indeed the excalpatory evidences gretchen didn't want you to see. Still, some languages Chair used was not of good taste. Sana simple lang, mej double meaning
ReplyDeletenakakagalit ito ha, ang haba haba. Let the court handle it. daming mga papel.
ReplyDeleteIn our law, sexual harassment is judged not on the intention of the one accused but on how and what the accuser felt.
ReplyDeleteWell based on Gretchen’s replies and constant exchanges with the accused, it so appears that she did not feel harassed at all. May pa I love you, angel on earth, and invite invite to go out pa siya. She is twisting everything and it’s apparent in these exchanges.
DeletePanalo ka baks...agree!
DeleteThis!
DeleteWhy invite your predator for coffee?
Delete2015 pa ata yung mga kape kape na yan. Sorry ang haba di ko na binasa
Delete1:01, why not stick to coffeetalk when invited for coffee?
DeleteShe was trying to keep her job hence the invitations but if you read the convos with innuendos, she tried changing the topic
DeleteWhy invite people who had no power to fire her (or hire her) in the first place?. Hindi naman pala direct superior itong Favila.
DeleteWell i think other employees could testify about this. Kung ginawa nila kay Gretchen yan for sure nagawa na rin nila sa iba, at kung incompetent tlga si gretchen may testestigo din laban sa kanya.
ReplyDeleteWhy invite someone for coffee if you feel they are violating you in anyway? Diba dpat kung tungkol sa work yan at ramdam mo na predator kausap mo meeting sa opisina ang hihingin mo hindi ka magaalok ng coffee. Kung serial predator sila at may track record na alam na yan sa office.
I understand if ever Gretchen felt violated and that is wrong but it is also wrong to accuse someone with malice lalo't hindi nman totoo.
Need ko na rin wag mag delete ng mga text messages haha. Seriously now that I read itong other side totoo talaga na wag agad makinig sa isang side. Duda na ko tuloy kay Gretchen.
ReplyDeleteHabang binabasa ko pakiramdam ko ako yung kudge na uupo sa korte 😂😂
ReplyDeleteSame here baks hahaha
DeleteAno mga baks, bale incompetent si GF kya feeling nya napagkakaisahan sya. Pero naman, meron syang na-air na info na mali pala. Tas sya pa tong nalapit sa sinasabi nyang sexual abuser nya. Sya tong nagyayaya nang dinner mga ganun at minsan pa ay nag-i love you kay Favilla which never sinagot ni Favilla. Basahin nyo, di na ko makaka-laban GF now
ReplyDeleteAlthough medyo unprofessional ang way ng convo nila, im wondering why GF wasnt fire for her imcompetency and was even given a segment of her own.
ReplyDeleteBecause they're asking for kapalit? Don't you get the meaning ng 'COMMITMENT' na hinihingi nila Kay Gretchen na ayaw ibigay ni Gretchen daw. The whole thing above smacks of double meaning. If someone working for you is incompetent as they're alleging Gretchen is, is that the way you should talk to him/her through text messages and not a memo?
DeletePwede din kasi may evaluation process pa. Idadaan pa sa HR diba?
DeleteExactly 3:16. Also i'm wondering why they kept reminding her na pinagbigyan sya, they did something great for her, etc. In a way saying "you owe me", pero inderectly
Delete3:16, galing mo. I agree. Medyo may something nga sa "commitment" every time she highlights the word, parang me double meaning.
DeleteUbos brain cells ko dito. Pass muna
ReplyDeleteTook me an hour to finish it and it was worth reading. Let us not jump into conclusions sabi nga, wait for the evidence mga baks. Payo lang para madali, save the photos on your phone then swipe lang.
ReplyDeleteClose-minded and judgemental people, do yourself a favor. Read the whole evidence presented and reflect, before commenting nonsense. Iba na ang alam mga baks. Let's hope that it will resolved immediately because everyone involved suffers pati na rin ang crew and production team.
ReplyDeleteMay tama ka Baks!
DeleteBeside the actual text messages Wala ng iba pang 'evidence' jan docs n yan. The rest of the text are POV ng defendants
DeleteMga naka hundred scrolls ako sa haba ng article at dahil sa comments. Katuwa ang readers! Ang sipag natin mag basa at mag comment mga baks!!!!!!! Parang may exam bukas!!!ha haha
ReplyDeleteSome messages had innuendo. Question is why was GF given such special treatment and support in spite of her numerous slip ups? Ganun ba sila ka accommodating and considerate sa lahat ng employees or kay GF lang? At that time, did GF not find that strange at all? When did she start to feel harrassed? At what point? ‘Cause there have been jokes and she still invites for coffee, dinner, etc.
ReplyDeleteShe started to feel uncomfortable when she's no longer the favorite she thought she was.
DeleteThe exchanges may seem harmlessly about work, attitude and team work but the way the messages were composed by one party reek double entendres which the other party felt as discomforting sexual undertones.
ReplyDeleteI agree. Yun din nakikita ko.
DeleteIto nga yung problem. When you show motive and lead people on, di ka innocent at all. Play with fire, you will get burned. Also, since uso ang me too, good timing para umeksena. Kahit pa mahina yung kaso, kakampihan yung nag file ng sexual harassment and di din sya masisipa sa work dahil the company will look bad kahit tama na i-fire sya for being not good at work
ReplyDeleteHindi pulido ang reklamo!
ReplyDeleteLabasan na ng resibo. Kaloka din si Gretchen, out of context yung pinapakitang text messages.
ReplyDeleteSabi nga, ang sinungaling nahuhuli sa sailing bibig..Bengo!
ReplyDeletenot looking good for GF
ReplyDeleteshe was cited several times for her incompetence
May laban si GF sa kasong ito.
ReplyDelete1. The text messages are subtle in their insinuations and innuendos, but contain insinuations and innuendos just the same.
2. Favila is the one in a position of power, not GF. Her acquiescence, acceptance, and "enjoyment" of the things that are happening are understandable in light of self-preservation as an employee.
3. The excuses for messages such as "Gusto ko sexy outfit ha birthday ko naman diba" (non verbatim) are lame and apparently made to portray GF as a preying woman, not a victim on the receiving end of these inappropriate remarks.
4. There was apparent special treatment of GF, such as getting assigned her own segment producers (non-routine practice) and being constantly forgiven for her lapses and inadequacies. Her performance may shed light on her motives, but at the end of the day this isn't an employee review. This is about what they made her feel.
NUMBER 2!
DeleteKahit ano pang paliwanag, ang konteksto always is boss sila at empleyado lang si GF. They have the power to fire her any time.
nagstart ako magbasa ng 2 natapos ko din sa wakas ahaha with matching lito pa ung sa anong page na ba ako grabe ang juicy ng statements ha...pasabog.
ReplyDeleteI’m out! Haba d ko kinayang tapusin!
ReplyDeleteMatira ang matibay!
ReplyDelete..she failed to live up to expectations...OOOOOOOOOUCH
ReplyDeleteI read through the whole document. It would seem, from my understanding, that Gretchen was incompetent and did not have the focus to deliver her stories. One would wonder why ABS-CBN executives would issue affidavits (which could subject them to perjury punishable by imprisonment if untrue), in support of Cheryl Favila (who does not anymore work for ABS-CBN). Kung babasahin ninyo lahat ng affidavits ng mga nagsupport kay Cheryl Favila, si Gretchen Fullido ay hindi marunong magtrabaho. Ang tagal-tagal na nya sa news pero lagi siya kailangan icorrect, iadvise, irevise, ipep talk, etc. Sa totoo lang surely may backer si Gretchen Fullido from higher management (or malakas sa management) otherwise kung ordinaryong anchor ka lang siguradong sesante ka!
ReplyDeleteGretchen found a convenient excuse that she could not delivery quality work due to harassment in the last 3 years. Pero basahin ninyo, Gretchen pa mismo ang nagiimbita kina Cheryl to go out have dinner, coffee, etc. Everyone daw in TV Patrol created a hostile working environment for her. Lumalabas it was you (GRetchen) and me against the world. Had Gretchen not wondered if siya ang may mali kasi lahat ng katrabaho niya may reklamo sa quality ng work nya?
ReplyDeleteMeh bago n segment!!! Tara reGretch lol!
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