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Monday, June 26, 2017

FB Scoop: Creator of 'Floating Virgins of Apeldoorn' Elisabet Stienstra Sees ​UPLift of Ferdinand Cacnio As Plagiarism ​

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Images courtesy of Ferdinand Cacnio

74 comments:

  1. weh! wag magdeny! dont tell a lie....aminin!

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    1. What a waste!!!

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    2. It was obviously an imitation. Deny pa more!!

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    3. Upon checking on the photos of the Dutch artist, HAWIG kaya.

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    4. 2:10 hahaha 90s pa yata yan!

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    5. the world as of today has a population of 7.514Billion. now sino magsasabi na meron siyang monopolyo ng creative idea?

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  2. bihira na talaga ngayon ang Originality..!

    gaya gaya puto maya

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  3. Maybe hindi nga nya kinopya from the artist talaga pero definitely nakita nya toh somewhere probably sa net then ginawa nyang inspiration. Lol i believe kinopya pa din nya dahil same na same eh except for the materials

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    1. Baka kung hindi nakahubad yung oblation baka may tapis rin yung sakanya haha

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    2. Lulusot yan sasabihin lang niya inspiration lol lumang palusot.

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    3. True. Ang lapit masiado. nakita nia yan somewhere, tapos di lang sia aware sa original dutch sculptor.

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    4. 2:01 sinabi nya na hindi daw yjn ang inspiration. Ever ya pa daw nakita yung work.

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    5. at dahil dyan nawalan tuloy ako ng respeto kay Cacnio

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    6. sos, daming computer, natural nag google din sya at nakita nya yan

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    7. Pakasinungaling e noh? Kopyang kopya naman. Kala makakalusot dahil hindi kilala dito sa Pinas yung pinagkopyahan

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  4. Di ba muna nireresearch kung may nakagawa na?

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  5. The resemblance is striking. It's impossible he hasn't come across her work.

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    1. yes, its computer age and all. Easy to look for this picture

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  6. Muka nman ginaya nga.

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  7. Ideas are not copyright-able. Walang pd mag me ari ng idea. Read the law.

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    1. 3:18 "ideas" technically, no. but works of art, yes. . so yes sculptures can be copyrighted. Read Intellectual Property.

      "Copyright covers literary works (such as novels, poems and plays), films, music, artistic works
      (e.g., drawings, paintings, photographs and sculptures) and architectural design. Rights related to copyright include those of performing artists in their performances, producers of phonograms in their recordings, and broadcasters in their radio and television programs."

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    2. yeah you should Read the Law 3:18. there is such thing as intelectual property rights. IP refers to the "creation of the mind" like inventions or ... art.

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    3. para ano pa't may law sa plagiarism at copyright!

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    4. So inutuasan mo talaga kami magbasa tungkol sa law 3:18

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    5. Panahon ngayon lahat naiisip na

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  8. UP should do something about this wag ipagtanggol.

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  9. pero mas maganda ung sa nangopya lol

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    1. Yup. Mas maganda ung nasa UP kesa ung orig.

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    2. pag daw kokopya, galingan na! lol.

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  10. que ginaya nya o hindi, hindi naman malabong ma imagine yung ganyang gawa.

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  11. weh, internet kaya.

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  12. Lagot πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€

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  13. UP should not use it for display

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  14. Ano ba yan sa UP pa man din yan. Kakahiya

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  15. Itayo na lang para maiba ng konte,,, obvious nga naman

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    1. Pde din nakadapa hahaha

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  16. Well halata naman na pareho. Unless same sila ng creativity which is... not.

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  17. Nakakainis yung ganyan. Hindi nman imposible na maisip din yan ng ibang tao noh!

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  18. Grabe!!! Parehong-pareho dai!!!

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  19. Hmmm posible nga namang naisipan nila pareho yung concept. Di naman ganun kakumplikado kasi.
    Pero posible ring nakita nya na yung image somewhere at "nainspire" dun. Who knows, as if naman magsasabi sya ng totoo of ever.

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  20. Hindi naman sobrang abstract ng sculpture kaya may probability na maisip nila pareho yung ganyang design. Get over it.

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  21. I feel sooooo connected with those pieces of art...

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  22. The hair always has to be long as it serves as the hidden base of the sculpture. It's the only way it could work

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  23. The artist definitely have seen the original. All that hard work went down the drain because you dared to imitate another artist's creation. tsk tsk

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  24. kelan kaya ginawa yung sculpture nung foreign artist... matagal na kaya or recently lang...

    kasi yung kay ferdinand cacnio he made exact design but a smaller one, the usual size he use for commercial art sale, parang pang display... back in 2007 which he exhibited also in UP, during when napansin ng UP and lately kinomission to Cacnio to create a big one.

    ferdi already list pic of that gallery exhibit with the original design (original but different size) taken back in 2007

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    1. based on the above facebook post by the husband, his wife,Elisabet made the concept in 2001.so mas nauna tlaga cya.grabe ung similarities nung design pero i still have my respect for Cacnio.hndi rin mtatawaran ung contribution nya sa arts.

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  25. Thom Puckey's posts has been taken down as of yesterday. In fact, his Facebook account is now private. It appears that he is backing away from his claim of plagiarism. Unfortunately, screenshots of his posts are still around and being used to keep his claim afloat.

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    1. hindi lang sya sanay sa controversy. But nevertheless, it was obviously plagiarized

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    2. Too many pinoy trolls, that's why. It's plargirism, it's clear.

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  26. Elisabet Stienstra's The Virgins of Apeldoorn, a sculpture placed on display in the Netherlands in 2001

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  27. 11:40 2001 po ginawa yang sa foreign artist

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  28. 2001 yung sa dutch artist

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  29. Hindi imposibleng maisip yang ganyan "weightlessness" ng ibang tao o artists. Para magmukhang weightless ang isang bagay like in this case, babae, talagang hair ang maiisip na gawing support to make her look weightless. At ang idea ng weightlessness does not sound very original. I bet the artist from Netherlands was also inspired by something else. Ako nga, kakanood lang ng natgeo feature about weightlessness ng astronauts sa outerspace and was inspired to make a piece that looks weightless. Dahil nasa ospital ang anak, at knspired din ng concept ng life and death, una ko naisip ung hair nya at hospital gown ang makaktulong para maconvey ang mga ideas/concept na ito.

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  30. Ok lang yan wala naman makakagaya sa mga pinoy na magaling sa panggagaya. Pero meron naman tayong original pero bilang lang talaga.

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  31. Baka nga may ibang countries pa na may ganyan ding sculpture kase very likely na maiisip yang ganyang idea eh...

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    1. Google it. Madami nga actually sculpture na ganyan.

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  32. Good thing the UP community condemns the guy for his blatant plagiarism (except for his family and friends). The university admin should do right by removing the sculpture and imposing penalty on the artist.

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    1. yes , nahalata ang plagiarism .I feel sorry for Cacnio, because I admire his other works. Baka ginaya lang din kung saan.

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  33. Hindi naman kasi imposibleng may pagkakatulad ang mga likha ng iba't ibang tao eh.

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  34. Award 2001 pa pala ung sa Orig. Tsk! Anobeyen kaya tayo nababrand na walang originality

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  35. kung tayo nga na google natin yung original, so don't tell me na hindi nakita yan ni Mr Cacnio via the internet.

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  36. ang mamahal pa naman ng mga obra nito, sana naman hindi plagiarized yang mga iba nyang gawa. Baka hype lang ito

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  37. billions of people on earth for thousands of years...the idea is simple enough to have been thought of by hundreds of thousands if people throughout time, across continents πŸ™„

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    1. but you can't deny, they are almost identical except for the skirt.

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  38. Infer dun sa floating virgins, mas nagagandahan ako sa ginawa niya na tatlong figures yung sculpture, medyo awkward yung nasa UP na isa lang.

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  39. Kailan nagawa yung kay Cacnio? What year? Recent lang ba?

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  40. if you research makikita nyo na ung idea is hindi talaga dun kay silenstra. search nyo floating woman sculpture, marami na nuong unang panahon pa may gumawa na nyan. kaya nga ni private na nung asawa na si thom puckey ung fb nya at wala na ung post dahil alam nyang hindi naman original ung sculpture ng asawa nya. kaya guys wag maging judgemental, nagkataon lang na same idea sila.

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    1. Agree. Dami nang nakaisip ng ganyan.

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  41. Gaya-gaya puto maya.

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  42. Pero how would we know kung ginaya or hindi? I agree with 10:50PM.

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