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Monday, December 10, 2012

Fate or faith - what brought about Manny Pacquiao's loss?

Image courtesy of www.sports.inquirer.net

Did Manny Pacquiao's devastating loss to Mexico's Juan Manuel Marquez send a strong message to the erstwhile pound-for-pound king?

Amidst the busy-ness of Christmas holidays, Manny has once again demostrated his magic to unite the nation to be witness to his greatness in the boxing ring. But sadly, the euphoria and the excitement died so fast towards the first half of Pacman's 4th fight with the Mexican. The manner of his loss was a very big upset, was totally unexpected, totally un-Pacquiao, having been knocked out cold and motionless in round 6.

The cameras caught the very tearful and hysterical Jinkee seeing her husband knocked out lying on the canvass. But more than that, was what the world witnessed -- the sight of the very powerful Pacquiao splattered face flat on the floor ... weak and defenseless.

People and observers who have suddenly turned boxing experts and life gurus were quick to give unsolicited analysis. What caused him to lose that fight?

- short preparation
- carelessness and too much confidence
- lack of focus
- fate
- all of the above

Among others, it was his faith, his allegedly leaving his Catholic religion that was the most controversial. It sent Mommy Dionisia going ballistic and blaming the born again Pastors for her son's misfortune. In the above situations, it is only Manny who has the final say what had gone right and wrong.

On the other hand, people will always have a say, to blame Pacman or to love and be proud of him inspite of. Whether he fights again or retire is his own business. But one thing is certain -- Manny Pacquiao is the only and the greatest Filipino boxer ever who gave us immeasurable pride as Filipinos!

267 comments:

  1. marquez was on steroid.

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    1. How did you know? Hindi ba pwedeng pinagbastaan Lang Mabuti ni Marquez ang Laban nila ni pacman... Sport Lang tanggapin kapag talo Maging Masaya sa nanalo

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    2. Sure. Because there is no other plausible explanation for Pacquiao's loss. It cannot be lack of strength and conditioning training or his focus on other things aside from training.

      Give credit where credit is due. Sore losers.

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    3. I agree google nyu about questions raising about Marquez's gained muscle. Ngayun Lang na 38 na sya biglang magka macho? Ang liit Nya nung fight Nya ni mayweather na kailangan Nyang magpalaki ng katawan nun, plus NASA corner Nya ang admitted distributor ng PEDs.

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    4. kahit hindi ka mag steroids you will gain muscles and maybe marquez workout hard that is why he develop muscles,I am married to qualified personal trainer and we do our workout at home and hubby told me ''A GUY LIKE MARQUEZ CAN DEVELOP MUSCLE IF HE ADDED DISCIPLINE INTO HIS WORKOUT ESPECIALLY DIT TOO''SO PEOPLE SHOULD STOP SAYING MARQUEZ ARE ON DRUGS..I AM NOT PACMAN OR MARQUEZ FAN'S BUT I AM JUST EXPRESSING MY OPINION...

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    5. ''DIET'',,,,fp,,xncia na excited to post as i am a first timer but i been reading your blog quiet long now but it is my very first time to post comment:-)...
      HAVE A BLESSED MONDAY FP AND TO ALL FP READER'S....

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    6. why are Pinoys such sore losers? nakakahiya na!

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    7. okay lang yan. kapalit naman yan ng pagka delay ng doomsday e. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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  2. fate 'yun. si Mommy D talaga oh. lol
    -Will

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    1. the philippines is more than 85% catholic. kaya yun ang paniniwala ng karamihan na ang pagtalikod ni pacman sa true religion ang naging sanhi ng pagbagsak niya.

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  3. Ok lang yan hindi naman laging panalo diba? Wala na rin naman siya dapat patunayan pa kasi he is one of the best na talaga sa history ng boxing... Pacman win or lose proud po ako sa iyo "even the best fall down sometimes" :)

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    1. i don't agree! i don't like pacman na.

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    2. Pero kailangan nya pa ding patunayan kay marquez na sya talaga ang champion sa kanilang dalawa.. Now, vindicated si marquez!

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  4. True. No matter what happen he is still a Filipino Pride!! Go Pacman!

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  5. if it's indeed bec of his change of religion, from catholic to born again christian, may maganda naman naidulot eh...natalo nga xa sa boxing pero panalo naman xa sa pamilya niya.mas naging family man xa mula ng maging christian xa eh :) and besides there is nothing left to prove, he had proven his self so many time, he had given so much pride for us Pinoys. at hindi yun matutumbasan ng pagkatalo niya ngayon :) PACMAN IS PACMAN. I'M A FAN.

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    1. korekted by ka jan!

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    2. he got complacent. nawala na ang agressiveness niya. he should retire and just be a pastor.

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    3. eh di mag retire na siya sa boxing. kung ipapatalo lang naman niya lagi ang laban, ano'ng silbi pa niya sa boxing?

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    4. Sana nga totoo yang pagka family man nya ngayon.. Baka naman kaya nagconvert convert sa pag ka bornagain kuno at bible study yun pala nagpapabango lng ng name para sa susunod na election.

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    5. Nakinabang ka ba sa 10%

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  6. Napuna ko nga na Wala na ung lucky charm nyang rosary at Hindi na rin sya nagsisimba before his fight.... Parang tinalikuran Nya ung PANATA Nya mula ng maliit pa sya。... Nakakalungkot pero that's life Wala ng dapat pang patunayan he make us proud before kaya ok Lang Matalo

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    1. Kahit ilang rosary isuot Nya kung sugal naman ang ginagawa Nya, Wala din.

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    2. super agree to that anon 5:42..Diba a nasa 10 commandments,Thou shalt have no other gods.No graven images or likenesses. Nopw people are blaiming manny for not wearing his rosary..kalurks lang.

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    3. is it coincident it's the Feast of the Immaculate Conception (December 8) in the US when he lost? Nagtampo daw si Virgin Mary kay Pacquiao.

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  7. Napuna ko nga na Wala na ung lucky charm nyang rosary at Hindi na rin sya nagsisimba before his fight.... Parang tinalikuran Nya ung PANATA Nya mula ng maliit pa sya。... Nakakalungkot pero that's life Wala ng dapat pang patunayan he make us proud before kaya ok Lang Matalo

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    1. nagchange na yata sya ng religion.

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  8. Masyado kaseng busy with politics, showbiz, even his new found religion. Pero decision naman niya yun so wala dapat sisihin.

    He did his best and saludo pa rin ako kay MP sa mga achievements niya at sa kagalingan niya sa napiling profession.

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    1. busy sa politics? come on. parang di nga nakikita maski anino Nya sa house of rep. good luck

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  9. Hindi kaya pakiramdam ng boxing higher-ups ay matagal na ring No. 1 si Pacquiao kaya panahon na para "tapusin" ito?

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  10. I totally agree...Manny Pacquiao gave us immeasurable pride as Filipinos... Manalo, matalo...we should still be proud...

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  11. It was all for show! How can he easily be knocked-out? Sa tigas ng mukha ni Pacman? I doubt. Plus, pansinin niyo, last seconds siya ng 6th round na-knockout. Parang make or break ang peg kaya ang sarap sa pakiramdam kapag nanonood ka. Meron pang issue with drugs and all. Of course, lahat ng fans ni Pacman di papayag na walang rematch because of that issue tapos di rin naman papayag fans ni marquez na may nagddoubt kay sige, REMATCH na lang. Happy2x ang mga producers kasi money2x na naman ang biyaya. Pupusta ako, lalaban pa si Pacman next year for a rematch tapos siya naman ang mananalo. Anong makukuha nila para sa isang show? Dearest people, boxing may be a sports pero mas business yan. Mas entertaining, mas maraming panghila sa tao, mas maraming fights, MAS MADAMING PERA. Sorry, but I wasn't impress w/ Jinkee's little show either. Dati pa madumi ang boxing, wala naman masyadong nag-iba.

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    1. maybe strategy din nya yun para si gayweather would finally fight him... na kapag natalo si pacman, saka lang sya lalaban k pacman...
      we'll see....

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    2. I agree with you waitingfor rematch

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    3. anin 12:24, how could u be so stupid to say it was all for show. Pacman isnt that cheap. U think he would risk his reputation as the best fighter of the world and allow himself to be knocked out at the 6th round? isip-isip ka nga!If this was a cooked up fight, paabutin nila yan till the last round and hindi KO at the 6th round. get my point? Bago ka mag-assume, medyo gamitin mo muna utak mo , puede?

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    4. Anon 12:24 nagmamagaling ka masyado teh.. Kalohkah!!

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    5. It's possible na strategy lang nila ito to get mayweather to finally agree to fight manny. kasi kung yung sa last fight nya na natalo din sya by decision hindi pa rin kumagat si mayweather, baka ito yung way na matuloy ang long-awaited fight nila. although risk lang is papangit ang record ni manny kasi knockout on 6th round nga naman. pero kung matuloy sila ni mayweather, mas malaking pera ang kapalit kasi siguradong sold-out yan sa dami ng manonood pati sa pay-per-view, at kung manalo si manny sa fight na yon mas malaking bagay kasi undefeated si mayweather. parang sa chess lang naman yan, kailangan mo i-give up ang ilang pieces mo para ma-checkmate ang kalaban...

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    6. @3:25am parehas tayo ng naisip. maybe pang lure lang kay gayweather, pero i don't think papatulan ni gayweather yan. afraid much ang lolo mo.

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    7. pero wag nyo namang sabihing nagdadrama lang si jinkee! grabe ka naman, asawa yan kahit sinong mahal mo sa buhay ang makikipagbugbugan, masasaktan at masasaktan ka kahit papanu! stupid namang sabihing drama lang yun! tseh!

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    8. rematch rematch pa kau, matagal na cia dapat nagretire ha!

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    9. geez, kahit sa boxing may mga conspiracy theorists din pala.

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  12. Win or lose, $20+ million can still make one smile.

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    1. yeah that's equivalet to 1.2Billion pesos! Jinkee can still buy her Hermes. :)

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    2. yes, sa mga taong mukhang pera!

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  13. let's not blame his change of religious beliefs sa pagkatalo nya! siya nga mismo he accepted his defeat without blaming anyone

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    1. his change of religion has nothing to do with his lost. catholic or born-again, we all serve one God, iba iba lng ang practice and ways, but they're all just the same. nagpapatagisan lng mga religions kasi each one wants to be the leader/top ng mga religions. but basically they serve all one God parin.

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    2. Exactly. I think it's both Fate and Faith. We may not understand it but the Lord has other plans for MP. Besides, he accepted his defeat wholeheartedly and not made an excuse to justify it. Let's be proud of him.

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  14. Naiyak ako nung nakita kong na knock out sya. So sad. Sir Manny, ang dami mo nng natulungan na tao, pls continue your good work and may the Lord continue to bless you

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  15. The Rosary was with Manny P. in many of his fights. We've seen him wearing it during his fights but since he became a "born again christian", The Rosary was no longer there in his last 2 fights and in both fights, he was beaten. Maybe it was just a coincidence or maybe not but for many catholics, the Rosary is a very powerful symbol of our Faith and taking it for granted has its consequences. For once, i tend to believe Mommy D.

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    1. aaaand tumatanda din naman kasi ang katawan nya. and before boxer lang sya pero ngayon, boxer/musician/congressman/pastor/tatayngmaraminganak

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    2. Keyword: symbol, symbol lang. If you really are a man of faith, you don't need symbols to remind you that God is always with you. Ni wala nga sa bible ang rosary e.

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    3. He did not took for granted the rosary, it's just that mas deretso na sya ngppray ngayon. directly talking to God sa prayers nya.

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    4. i do believe on you. I had a pinay feng shui consultant in US and she told me changing religion creates bad luck and misfortune. Removing statutes, crucific and rosary are bad sign and you cannot serve 2 religion or masters. There is only one god.

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    5. BAket Anon 5:51 Si buddha na ba ang sinsamba ni manny ngayon? He's still serving the same God. He just changed his beliefs. Akez.

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    6. Pak na pak anon 2:43..

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    7. Thou shalt have no other gods
      No graven images or likenesses

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    8. I am not a fan of manny but i saw on the news before his fight hindi nga siya nagsimba pero may prayer/charismatic sa hotel room niya. ganun din yun, nagdasal pa rin siya, ibang paraan na nga lang ngayon...

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    9. ang hirap sa iba, ang bibliya na ang ginagawa nilang Diyos.

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    10. Don't underestimate what Satan can also do. It might be that Satan has chosen this perfect timing to make Pacquiao lost the fight so we'll get confused. Either Catholic or Christian, for as long as you have faith in Christ, it doesn't matter. Let's also dig deeper what lessons or teachings God wants us to learn from his lost. Whether good or bad, it's not the situation that we should give emphasis with, it's how you get through in that situation with an understanding that everything is God's will.

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  16. He got careless on the last few seconds of the 6th round. Usually boxers would wait for the bell since there is already a 10 seconds warning from the timekeeper but he still move forward to attack Marquez.

    I also think he lacks preparation. He spend more than a month in Gen. Santos training without Freddie Roach to supervise him. Roach didn't even wen to Gen. Santos.

    Maybe there is already some strain in their relationship between Pacman and Roach. Coz Roach wanted Pacman to spend all 3 months training in LA but Pacman disobeyed him and he trained in Gensan instead before training in LA.

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  17. Marquez was more prepared than Manny Pacquio. With Manny's responsibilities at congress plus his involvement in showbiz and time spent with his bible studies, surely, Marquez had more time to train for the fight. The result was evident.

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    1. Si marquez after ng laban nila ni pacquiao nag training na sya agad. Kaya i kataka takang mapatulog nya si pacquiao dahil ang attention ni pacqiuao hati sa dami nyang activities!

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  18. please, enough with the rosary already!

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    1. Hindi kse kayo naniniwala sa power ng rosary dahil hindi kayo katoliko. Sorry...

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  19. hay!

    sabi nga ni Mareng Whitney...for every win..someone must fail

    ganun lang talaga buhay! Sometimes wala talagang rason kung bakit this and that.

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  20. Sana may parada siya pag-uwi para mapakita ng mga tao na mahal nila si Manny.

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    1. tapos paulanan siya ng rosary!

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  21. FP sobra ka naman sa "only" boxer who gave us pride. May proud boxing history ang Pinas, at madaming na buksan na pintuan para kay Manny nun naguumpisa pa lang siya dahil dun.

    Wish ko lang he concentrates on boxing na lang at huwag na siya mag pulitika. Pero baka pagod na rin siya, ewan. Para siyang uninspired kasi. Wala naman point yung fight nila ni Marquez, wala man lang totoong title, pero tinanggap niya pa rin for the money. Sayang tuloy ang record at ang legacy. Pero I think kayang kaya niya mag bounce back next year. Yun lang nga, tama na yung ibang activities niya. Sana focus na lang kung saan siya magaling!

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    1. gusto niya ata ngayon maging pastor

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  22. okay people let's all move on. we all watched the fight. marquez won buy pacman will a bigger share of the money - which he is not sharing with anyone of us here! so keep your mouth shut!

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    1. Ang gulo ng 2nd sentence mo teh!

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  23. Naisahan sya, simple. Kontrapelo naman talaga sila eh. Hmmp! Di ko matanggap si Marquez.

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  24. for many years,manny made us more proud than any filipino in the world.in victory and defeat, kay manny tayo! forever fan.

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    1. ayaw ko na. nakakahiyang ma knock-out!

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  25. Just be proud!!!! Pagnanalo ang saya nyo pag natalo naman ang dami nyong sinasabi......Just be happy nalang at least maganda ang laban

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  26. Pinagsisira daw nila manny ang mga santo sa bahay nila simula ng mag-iba sila ng relihiyon. Sana naman at di totoo kasi malas yon.

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    1. Bakit malas? Nasa bible ba na dapat may mga rebulto tayo na sasambahin?

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    2. agree ako sayo 7:47..
      Thou shalt have no other gods
      No graven images or likenesses. Ayan oh.nasa 10 commandments na basa na lang!

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    3. wala nga po, pero sana hindi na lang nya yun sinira. dinonate na lang sana nia sa mga tumatanggap.

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    4. Anon 8:25 AM - pastor soriano ikaw ba yan?

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    5. bakit kailangan ba lahat nasa bible? based on the catholic faith, there are 2 sources of truth - bible and tradition. yung wala sa bible is given truth by tradition. know your cathechism.

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    6. respeto naman sa ibang relihiyon pls lang! kung kayo walang respeto sa rebulto, go! kung yung iba may respeto, let them be! si God pa rin ang maghuhukom sa tin! hindi ang relihiyon ang magdadala satin sa tuwid na daan kundi ang paniniwala natin sa Kanya!

      -piyanonoy

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    7. Hindi naman entirely sinasamba ang mga rebulto, inaacknowledge lang sila, nirerespeto, dahil sa lahat ng mga pinaggagagawa nila nung nabubuhay pa sila, itong ibang relihiyon kung makapuna tlaga! parang picture yan ng lola mo or sino mang mga mahal mo sa buhay na iniingatan mo na hindi masira or bastusin ng kahit na sino gat maaari! ang sinasamba namin e yung spiritu santo, ang Diyos na makapangyarihan sa lahat, ang Diyos na may lalang ng sanlibutan.. ala namang sabihin kong galing ako sa unggoy noh? hahaha! kaya tigil nyo na yan, walang kinalaman ang relihiyon sa pagkapatalo ni pakyaw! ang importante ang laman ng puso nya! mga virtuous person! kung xa nga natanggap nya pagkatalo nya, tayo pa?! kayo na lang kaya dun ang makipagbugbugan kay marquez sa 5th fight! hihihi

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    8. Nasa bible din ba ang paghihingi ng 10% ng income ng bawat kasapi sa bornagain nyo? Dyan naubos ang pera ng hipag ko kakabigay at pakikilevel sa mga ka miyembro ng ka christian nya. No wonder panay habol nila kay manny dahil sa pera. Beelat talo hahahahahahahahha!!!!

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  27. nakakatawa naman ang mga dahilan kung bakit natalo si pacman, unang una sinabi na nya sumombra yong confidence nya, ano naman ang koneksyon sa religion, sa di paggamit sa rosary at di pagsimba nya.
    Born again na po si manny at alam nya kung ano ang totoo, basahin nyo kasi ang bibliya para malaman nyo kung ano ang katotohan. Di po religion, rosary o di pagsisimba ang makakasave o para maavail natin ang blessings ni Lord kundi having JESUS as your Lord and savior, having Him means you do what He teaches para makuha natin yong abundance of life.

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    1. tamaaaaaaaaaaa! irita tong mga katoliko panatiko. magbasa kasi kayo ng bible nang maliwanagan mga pag-iisip nyo! wag yang tanggap lang kayo ng tanggap sa kung anong pini feed ng santo papa!

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    2. Anon 8:42 AM - wala namang kinalaman ang santo papa at ang mga katoliko sa sinabi ni anon 2:09 AM. at sa-an ba kinuha ng mga "bagong panganak na Katoliko" ang samahan nila? hindi ba't katoliko din sila noon? LALO na IKAW na siguradong kong kasapi nila... panay pa ang sabi mo ng bibliya na siguradong hindi ka naman ngbabasa....

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    3. eh ang problema ah hindi lang naman sa bibliya naniniwala ang catholics. nasa dogmatic teachings din ng church fathers. gaano ba completo ang bible? andun ba pangalan mo? kung wala eh ikaw ay hindi totoo, kung ganun.

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    4. Ang panghihingi nyo nasa bible din ba???

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    5. Ang panghihingi ng 10% nasa bible din yan

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    6. Nakalagay yan sa bible turo yan ng pastor namin!!!!

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    7. Sabi nga sa Holy Bible: "Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all its rigtheousness, and all these will be added unto you. " Ngayong natagpuan na ni Manny ang Panginoon, his life will be abundant in a different way.

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    8. Baka naapektuhan din yung 'killer instinct' nya sa boxing nung nagchange religion cya. Of course, physical harm pa rin yung ibibigay nya sa kalaban nya diba. Pero now that he's really into the religion, alam nyang dapat di cya mananakit ng tao. Mentally, di na same yung boxing game nya.

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    9. paano kung sasabihin ninyo sa mga buddhists na Jesus should be their Lord & SAvior & not Buddha? sa mga Muslim, na hindi si Allah ang kanilang dapat sambahin kung hindi si Jesus? we should respect each other's faiths, and not bash each other because we are all not Born Again. each religion worships a Supreme being, and that in itself is the similarity that we all should realize & respect. PEACE everyone.

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  28. kitang kita naman kahit talo sya happy pa rin sya kasi he got JESUS in his life,whats good in this fight is he humble himself by telling na naging overconfident sya sa labang ito .

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  29. Well that is life talo eh! Magagawa naten diba? edi tanggapin. atleast Nakatikim na rin siya ng TKO.now he finally realized tama si nanay at ang coach. He didnt listen sa mga advices ng mga important people surrounded him :) which is true naman. Naging kampante siya masyado at overconfidence. Oh well.. Re sa rosary and change of religon niya medyo naniniwala na rin ako sa sinabi ni mother niya. :) . A rosary is a very powerful thing na you can't ignore basta basta lang.

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    1. Korek kaya kilabutan ibang tao dyan na sinisira ang value ng rosary!!!

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  30. Manny Pacquiao accepted his defeat and most of filipinos of his loss too. Unfortunately, for those who always watch boxing have doubts on Marquez?. When he was fighting with Mayweathwer, he was so drained, tired, and dehydrated. He could not even take Mayweather's punches. But, these two rematch with Pacquiao, he all of a sudden became a super human. In the first round, he was tired, getting beat up. Second round, he became strong.?...DRINKING GATORADE??? this substance is mixed with dextrose and electrolite. The sad part, was no one ever call it out on Marquez drinking the gatorade. This is boxing, which is all about conditioning. This is football or Baseball that you allowed to take this drink.

    How can a 39 years old, with broken nose, no mouthpieace, and a wobbly condition in the sixth round was able to throw a super punch like Marquez did to Pacquiao? Pacquaio had been punched by big and best boxers like Dela Hoya, Mosley, Bradley, Cotto, Hatton but able to take those punches. ??????

    I accepted Manny's deafeat, but I hope Marquez find his drug testing POSITIVE!!!!

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    1. Bitter ka lng! Bt d mo tanggapin na mas prepared tlga c marquez? At d sa lahat ng pagkkataon e mananalo c pacman. Dats lyf!

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    2. Marquez probably did his homework. He knew he's up against THE Manny Pacquiao so he just trained hard - maybe spent more time training than Manny (who's preoccupied with a lot of non-boxing related activities)

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    3. sige ate, pa-drug test kayo ni marquez! tingnan natin kung sino sa inyo at POSITIVE sa pagiging bektas ahehehe..

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  31. the pacman did not expect that strong punch. malas lang talaga. he took his defeat very well. let's just all pray that pacman will not suffer any side effects in the future. it was a very hard blow and very unexpected. let's just wait for his next step?

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  32. It is time to retire for Manny. He made the Filipinos proud with so many wins and this is the best time to just hang the boxing gloves already. Nothing changes, he's still the best fighter in the world. Let''s just all be happy and still be proud of him! We love you, PACMAN!

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    1. takbo na lang siyang presidente ng Pilipinas marami pa siyang matutulungan.

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  33. Yes He doesn't have to prove anything but the way he loss is devastating and seeing the negative tweets and pictures in Internet is kinda disrespectful for pacquiao.Its really hard to be no 1 coz everybody is waiting for your downfall and when that time comes expect huge criticism.

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  34. Marquez = steroids! How can a 39yr old punch that hard???

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    1. i agree, naka-steroids yang si marquez!

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    2. weh, di nga. walang focus lang si pacman this time.

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  35. still proud of Pacman...and please people stop using religion as an excuse for his defeat. only Pacman can regain consciousness from a KO with a big smile.

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  36. I feel he's become too complacent with regards his training na.

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    1. yun din ang analysis ng most sports analysts dito sa US

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  37. si manny ang nagpabagsak sa sarili nya. masyado syang naging mapaghangad. dapat tandaan Nya walang nananalo sa sugal. Kung talagang nasa Diyos na sya. sana tinigil ba Nya ang sugal, hindi naman sports ang ginagawa Nya kundi sugal.

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    1. tumigil na siya magsugal eversince he became a born again Christian.

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    2. read mo nga sa Google category ng Boxing ateng? Kelan pa yan nasabing gambling??? Kaloka ka!

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    3. you are a very wise person. :)

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  38. I had very reliable pinoy feng shui consultant in Chicago and she told us that there a lots of clients she had that create bad luck and misfortune when they change religion. Maybe the pastor advise him to remove all the saints, no rosary and no cross before and after fighting. She is one of the very reliable feng shui consultant and she is right and she told us from the beginning before bradley fight that manny will have bad luck and misfortune when he change religion from catholic to born again christian. It is just beginning, there will more. What he will do and go back to the original religion and ask forgiveness. You canno serve 2 masters which means there is only one god. Mommy dionisia is correct and this is lady feng consultant is very reliable and authoritative here in abroad. I am not advertising this lady feng shui consultant but all of her clients are attesting for her feng shui knowledge. If anybody wants her website, i will give it latter but i do not advertise or represent this lady feng shui consultant. I consulted and all the things she told me are only happened and right now i had abundant happiness and peace on our family life.

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    1. goodness gracious! para mo na ring sinasabeng ibang Diyos ang sinasamba ng mga born again christian! how ignorant can you get? you're giving catholicism a bad name! ikaw na mismo nagsabi, THERE IS ONLY 1 GOD. parehong Diyos lang ang sinasamba natin, magkaibang paraan lang ng pagsamba. tsk tsk! magbasa ka ng bibliya nang maliwanagan ka. feng shui feng shui ka dyan! sa yo yata applicable yang sinasabi mo eh. ano ba talaga, sa Diyos ka o sa feng shui??? becoz like what you said, YOU CAN'T SERVE 2 MASTERS AT THE SAME TIME. engot!

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    2. I'm afraid that it's Satan's way that made all her predictions (feng shui from Chicago)came true. So you'll be blinded and would consider feng shui and fortune tellers your religion.

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    3. pansin ko lng mxado clang nggng self righteous aft bshin ang bible, ndi nmn ung pgchange ng religion ang nkakamalas, ung pggng born again nia, andami ko n nwitness na ganyang story. after nila mconvert minamalas tlga cla.

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    4. at anon 8.40. Kung one GOD nga lang talaga ang kinikilala ng mga born again at ng mga katoliko then why is the latter bashing the catholic church for their rituals? You said magbasa ng bible. The bible should not be interpreted word per word. There are alot of verses and words scholars and professors still dont understand. Kaya please lang wag magmarunong. Maka engot ka wagas lang. Ganyan ba turo sa church nyo? LOL

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    5. Duhhhh! Singitan ba ng advertisement about feng shui??? kaloka ka ateng!

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    6. correct ka diyan anon 8:40am, if one is belongs to a Christian-based faith (Catholic, Protestant, Evangelical, presbyterian, Born Again, etc.) we aren't supposed to believe in Fengshui and other beliefs similar to that.

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  39. change religion creates bad luck and misfortune per my pinoy feng shui consultant in chicago. I do believe on Mommy dionisia.

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    1. lady from Chicago, paulit-ulit ka naman ng comment about ur feng shui consultant, mag-hunos dili ka!

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    2. san mo makikita sa bible ang feng shui miss lady from chicago?magbigay ka ng sitas at magpa-feng shui rin ako :)

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    3. anon 8:27 nasa bible ba pangalan mo? if not, you don't exists!

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    4. Ipa pa feng shui kita!

      ---MOMMY DIONISIAaaaah

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  40. To all who blame a change in religion as the reason for Pacquiao's loss, stop.You're only giving Catholicism a bad name. God does not care about sports.He lost because he got punched in the face.If Marquez punched you right now, guess what, you will get knocked out, no matter your religion.

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    1. he lost because he did not made the sign of the cross like last time too.

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  41. Manny we are still very proud of you.. Whatever God's reason why he was humbled, I hope it will make him realized what should be done..

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  42. hindi na kasi siya nagsusuot ng rosary kaya ayan. lagi ng talo. wala na ang agimat niya.

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    1. jusmio agimat na pala ang rosaryo ngayon! que barbaridad!

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    2. Agimat talaga yan lalo na kung may faith ka. Panangga din yan sa mga sinasapian ng demons! Di mo alam yun? Kse hindi ka naniniwala sa holy rosary.

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    3. hoy ang rosary dinadasal hindi ginagawang agimat! Magtigil ka kaya tayo napupulaan ng ibang relihiyon eh!

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    4. please have respect for people who pray & believe in the Holy Rosary. do not call it an "agimat". Decency & respect lang po. salamat po.

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  43. dec. 8 is immaculate conception, dapat walang laban kundo magpray lang sa anuman religion.It is a bad date that fight should not be schedule.

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    1. Deceber 8 was also the day Pearl Harbor fell. Bad vibes talaga

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  44. Pacquiao is still the best for me, win or lose, he's still that humble man from Gen San who takes defeat with dignity.Sa ugali pa lang, panalo na si Pacman forever, kahi nga pag nananalo sya, di naman lumalaki ulo nya,di ba. Bilib ako sa kanya. Itanong nyo ke FP, dami na nya na-BI dito na mga artista na medyo sumikat lang ng konti, sobrang yabang na. Si Manny P, hindi ganun.

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  45. Its not the winning, its how you play the game. With all due respect to other religions, but for me his sudden change of believe might probably have brought him to his situation. On the other hand, mabuti na din na maranasan nya ang matalo, maybe its also god's way of saying. "ITS ENOUGH SON, I HAVE BETTER PLANS FOR YOU." kung hindi sya titigil, baka yung perang kinita nya ay maubos lang din sa pagpapagamot nya.BELT lang ang mawawala sa kanya, hindi naman ang kayamanan at pamilya nya. His pinoy fans are still proud of him.

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    1. yes i do believe that God makes all things happen for a reason, so I would think God does have plans for Manny after this Loss. Maybe it's for him to retire from boxing & concentrate on being a good & honest PUBLIC SERVANT. as Manny the champion boxer he brought us Filipino pride, but as Manny the congressman he could directly help his fellowmen. i sincerely HOPE this is what is next for Manny.

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  46. Pacman didn't lose because of that big punch. God's plan for Manny was simply bigger than boxing.

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    1. yes, he is destined to be a preacher.

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  47. The answer is all of the above. It is his second loss in succession, maybe he should consider retiring. I think he lacks focus and his new-found religion is taking up a lot of his time and attention. It will be sad to see him continue to fight just for the money.

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    1. At yan ang reklamo ni roach. Madalas daw pinupuyat si pacman ng mga kaanib nya. Sana nagconcentrate muna sa pagtraining madami pa namang time sa new sect na sinalihan nya.. At sana yung mga bago nyang kaanib wag syang abusuhin at hingian ng kung anu-ano kung talagang maganda ang purpose nila.

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    2. and if he continues to fight for money, he isn't being true to his new-found religion which, to quote you, anon 7:59am, "is taking up a lot of his time & attention", and would make him a false zealot.

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  48. mga sira ulo talaga mga nagsasabing dahil tinalikuran ni manny ang pagiging katoliko kaya sya natalo! para namang di na Diyos ang sinasamba nya ngayon at si satanas na! Diyos ko kilabutan kayo! kung tutuusin, simula nang nagbago si manny ng pananampalataya, mas naging mabuting tao sya. wala na tayong nababalitaang nambababae sya at hindi na sya nagsusugal. positive pa nga ang dala ng pagbabago nya. grabe talaga, whenever something unfortunate happened, ang tao laging naghahanap ng masisisi. nakakalokah! sobra sobra na ang karangalang naibigay ni manny sa pinas!

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    1. syempre, Catholics believe theirs is the true religion.

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    2. karangalan na biglang nawala sa isang iglap. pinagtatawanan ako ngayon ng boss kong mexicano.

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    3. Talaga lang ha.. hindi nambabae si manny .. hehehe palitan mo may religion ni manny ! nde pa rin sya perfect! --fantard alert

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    4. Palabas lng kse ni manny ang pagiging panatiko kuno! Ginamit ang sektang bornagain para masabing may pagbabago. Malapit na ang election!

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    5. ateh, ang puso mo! hinay-hinay lang..mashado kang nake-carried away..entertainment blog itoh, bakla..dun ka sa mendiola mag-rally..kalurkei!

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  49. grabe ang daming boxing experts sa FASHION PULIS. It was a lucky punch like what happened to Hatton. It happens to all boxers. Pero grabe gusto ko lang talaga isumbat to, PEKE BATHALA MO MANNY hahahah kahit na bumalik yung aggressiveness nya minalas pa rin. Kaya bawiin na ang mga ipinamigay na mac, suv etc. sa mga pa$$tors na yan

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  50. ndi sa pagpapalit nya ng relihiyon un.. baka dahil sign na ng Dios na tumigil na sya sa pagboboxing at magretiro na.

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  51. kung nanalo si manny, magbubunyi ang mga panatikong katoliko at sasabihing ang rosaryo ang nagpanalo sa kanya. pero dahil natalo, kasalanan ng mga pastor ng born again. hahaha! hypocrites! aba, ginawa nyo pang anting-anting ang rosaryo! nakakalurkey!

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    1. Anon - 8:43 AM - sa lahat ng panalo ni manny wala namang sinasabing isyu ang mga katoliko tungkol sa rosaryo... at nung nagchange na sya ng religion at lumaban kay bradley at nitong kay marquez ay natalo sya... kaya hindi mo maiiwasang punahin ng mga tao ang mga nakagawian at nakasanayan makita sa kanya noon at ngayon.... ikaw ang hypocrita! kasi dati namang katoliko ka at nagconvert lamang sa pagka born again.... magkano ba ang binyad sayo ng mga pastor para magkomento dito? im sure ubos ang pera mo sa monthly contribution at annual dues nyo sa samahan nyo.... kaya ikaw ang kalurkey! tsaka

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    2. parang ganun na nga ang rosaryo. it's the belief that makes it such a strong amulet. nabasa ko yan sa column ni jaime licauco.

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    3. & your point is?? Bilang bornagain?

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    4. please, do not generalize that all Catholics feel this way. i am Catholic & actually find it ridiculous & silly that they blame his Loss on his conversion, not wearing the rosary and attending mass.

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  52. Ito lang yun 1. He lacks practice. 2. Hinde nakinig kay coach. 3. Over confidence 4. Kampante 5. Distracted 6.tinalikuran niya panata niya (yes, his mother has her point and it made sense). Manny, learned a lot of lesson.after the fight! Manny will always be manny anyways.

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    1. AMEN to all points raised!

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    2. Koreeek!! Pak na pak! Kaya natulog di pacquiao!

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  53. we pinoys are like kids spoiled by PACMAN through his winning streak. Thus, his loss to JMM broke our hearts into pieces. But hey, even in the beginning he never promised us that he would win every fight. But he always assures the whole world that he will put on a good show. And you did Pacman! You' re still our hero!

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  54. Rexona kasi yung ad na nasa shorts ni marquez eh it wont let you down yun

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  55. Manny Pacquiao: You've given the Filipinos worldwide immense pride and you've certainly mapped the Philippines in the boxing domain. Wherever I go in the world, once I say I'm Filipino, 7 out of 10 would go, "Ohhh, Manny Paaak-yao!!!"

    And you're right, you win some, you lose some. That's modesty and humility at best for me. Graciousness in defeat. Even heroes do fall sometimes and like the mystical Phoenix, they rise again.

    Thanks very much, Manny.

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  56. Cgro sign na un para magretire xa. Kng para s pera lng, andami na nia nun, wla n dpat xang patunayan pa. Mas impt ang family at health. Pero nairita lng tlga ko sa pagmumuka ni chavit na lging naka epal sa camera! Lol! Badtrip xa at anlaki ng natalo nia s pustahan!

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  57. pacman and many said it was a lucky punch that felled him, i say it was an ambush punch! FATE ang pagkatalo ni Manny, faith ang nagpanalo sa kaniya at sa kaniyang marriage. God emotionally and spiritually prepared him sa pagkatalong ito. maraming taong nabubuang sa unti-unting pagbagsak ng fame. but not Manny! thanks to what he believed in. let's leave it at that, kung saan naniniwala ang tao sa salvation ng kaniyang kaluluwa, so be it!

    :katolikong bukas ang isip na fan.

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  58. PACMAN should RETIRE! Tutal me napatunayan na siya bilang magaling an boksingero dapat i-preserve na lang niya iyon kesa muli na naman siyang ma-knock out sa mga darating pa niyang laban. Sisirain lang niya ang kaniyang legacy.

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  59. Both have their own strategies, obviously Marquez's worked. He outsmarted Pacquiao, yun lang yun.

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  60. NAGKATAON lang siguro at DI PARA sa kanya ANG LABAN NA YUN. I STILL LOVE MANNY. FILIPINO PRIDE!!!

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  61. faith and lack of practice. his changed of faith really affected his relationship not only to his family (mommy D). People saying that Soriano and Time giver jowa made Pacquiao a "Faithful and family man" .. Dont claim that eh yung jowa ni time giver dami sideline.. It was his personal choice to save his relationship to Jinky who laid a annulment papers before his bradley fight (born again na sya noon)..

    I can feel mommy D's sentiment.. sana na d tinalikuran ni Pacquiao ang religion nya at paniniwala nya..Only mommy D can feel the sorrow of Pacquaio kahit sabihin pa nya okay okay.. At isa pa okay lng palitan ni Pacquaio religion sana at maintain respect sa dati nya religion pero hindi.. His mom asked him tickets to go to Rome for canonization ni Padre Calungsod but he insisted wala sya pera... siguro nadonate na sa church ng bf ni Time giver.. :) hehe ..sa ayan tuloy matutuluyan ka na wala pera.. magiging Hatton na career mo sa boxing ...

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  62. Pacquiao mom made sense! + Lack of Practice because of he and his wife filed for candidacy etc.. Jinky as public servant? Hermes and belo is her daily routine ..

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  63. Karma to Pacman.. imot sya sa mama nya ..hehe d man lang nya binigyan ng ticket mama nya to Rome for canonization ni Padre Calungsod..

    Eh 10% ng 20M USD nya mapupunta sa pastors nya.. na related sa bf ni Time Giver.. Kaya ba wala si Time Giver kasama ng Pray over.. Ganyan ba born again nabubuhay din sa Chismis like Time Giver.. so Pls lang wag ng maki-argue about religion..

    May sense naman sinasabi ni mommy D! Aminin!

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  64. i hate to be cynical but something is dodgy in this fight... something related to the long awaited mayweather -pacquiao match

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  65. napagtatalo si pakyaw ng iniwan nya si krista...

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  66. He was on top of everything before..and when you're at the apex of your career, there's no other way to go but down..that's life..and on the issue on faith, his loss could be seen as a 'punishment' of sort for changing his religion but it could also be seen as a trial of his faith on his new religion..

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  67. It's actually both irritating and funny that people are fighting over who has the better religion. I am a Deist. People like me are frowned upon by people who believe in divinity, but sa mga sitwasyon na ito, natatawa ako sa inyo. Nag aaway-away kayo tungkol sa isang bagay na hindi pinaniniwalaan ng taong tulad ko.

    Pacman's wins and losses doesn't have ANYTHING to do with his faith. If I were a Catholic/Christian/Born Again, I'd be happy to know he remained faithful to his God despite everything, buti nga hindi siya sa ibang nilalang nananampalataya.

    YOU people should be a good example sa relihiyon ninyo.

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  68. Bawal kasi ang boxing, politics and bible preaching at the same time :P

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  69. Siraulo na lang ang mga naniniwala sa mga dios dios, anghel anghel, demo demonyo ngayon. Walang himala! Tayo ang gumagawa ng mga himala! Tayo ang gumagawa ng mga sumpa!

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  70. Sana naman tumahimik na ibang katoliko, katoliko din ako pero walang kinalaman relihiyon sa pagkatalo ni Manny, ganyan lang talaga ang buhay. Kung si Manny nga maluwag sa loob tinanggap pagkatalo nya bakit yun iba masyadong affected??? At sa iba dyan na pati ang Santo Papa dinadamay sa usapan, excuse me lang no as if naman ang mga pinuno nyo eh perpekto??? Madami din akong kilalang Born Again Christians na babaero at pumapatol sa may asawa, wala sa religion yan nasa pagkatao!

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  71. FP sana naman i-post mo message ko, I just want to defend the Pope please.

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  72. Come on, people!!!! We stood by Manny Pacquiao during his triumps... let's stand by him during his defeats!!!

    ---babaeng bakla

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  73. A popular catholic bishop already said to the press that wala sa religion yon. Napuruhan daw si Manny kaya nagkaganon. Pano daw kung parehong Catholic ang nasa ring eh sino daw ang ipapatalo ni God.

    Manny you are still our CHAMPION!

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  74. It is possible NOT to lose in boxing, just look at Mayweather, he has 0 loss. Anyway thank you Manny for my for my P5k!!! The minute I learned he attended that religious service, (instead of the usual mass) I placed my bet on Marquez. Halos lahat ng athletes worldwide may practice/pamahiin/seremonyang sinusunod, whether abstaining from sex, drinking milk, praying etc. For some reason they do work and once they stop their winning streak stops too.

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