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Wednesday, June 16, 2021

Tweet Scoop: 'Trese' Director, Jay Oliva, Reveals How Casting Choice Was Done




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  1. I don't the get the comment of batman because even Bruce wayne has a modulation in his voice. Heck from the start his deep voice nature allows him to be cold .it had character by itself. No their intention was clear it is the delivery that failed.but they can improve for the next season

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    1. Batman?! Napaka Emo nun! Dapat ke Sensui Shinoba icompare dahil yun ang Cold And UnEmotional! SPLIT!

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    2. Let’s call a spade a spade! Liza is not a good fit there are better VA!

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    3. 1:03, Sensui my forever gay anime crush! 😍😍😍 Yeah, he's gay, because one of his personalities in YYH is a female (and Itsuki embraces him in the end).

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    4. 12:44 well kung cold and unemotional ang hanap nila e di pa rin nakamit ni liza. Para lang siyang nagbabasa ng walang gana.

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    5. 1:03 Eh di naman kasi kilala yung Sensui Shinoba mo. Hihi

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    6. Iba ang cold and unemotional sa monotonic. Yun lang!

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    7. WALANG KASALANAN SI LIZA

      FAULT YAN NG VOICE DIRECTOR

      HINDI BINIGYAN NG TAMANG INSTRUCTION AT PINALAMPAS NALANG ANG MALI

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  2. Im sorry pero kinakain ni liza yung mga sinasabi niya. Got bored sa 2nd ep kaya nag eng dub ako. No hate towards liza pero they could’ve casted a voice actress or someone else who spoke clear filipino. Hindi yung may conyo accent.

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    1. Dapat Butch ang dating Ice sana o si Cyrus.

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    2. Got bored sa first 10mins pa lang ng filipino dub. Hindi ko din natapos ung 2nd episode with the eng dub. Nasan ba yung mga nag dub ng ghost fighter o slam dunk? Try ko next time ung japanese para parang anime lang. Looking forward pa naman ako dito

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    3. Hindi ba konyo si alexandra trese? Pangalan palang konyo na eh.

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    4. Kung pa conyo yun eh di dapat hindi deep yun tagalog na ginagamit nya and most of the time English ang Salita nya.

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    5. Hindi naman butch si Alexandra. Sana si Glaiza na lang. I like bibi Liza and all and super ganda niya dun sa interview sa Trese After Dark on Netflix. Pero ayun, medyo antok din ako sa voice niya. I don't really mind though kasi maganda naman ang animation and istorya and the creators know what they were doing. Sadyang iba iba lang tayong mga viewers ng reactions and opinions regarding sa palabas.

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    6. Ang layo ng english at japanese dub kesa sa dub ni liza, kaloka! Snoozefest yung kay Liza, aminin na lang natin. Next time kasi, kumuha ng naaayon sa talent, hindi yung talent para makagawa lang ng ingay!

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    7. Agree @5:40

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  3. ayan na! nagpaliwanag na sa korte ng Twitter! kulang sinabi nya eh. dapat dagdag niya kelangan ng hatak.

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  4. Batman is not Cold And UnEmotional he is Warm Hearted and Full of Drama! Saan ka nakakita na yung mga tulad ni Joker e binubuhay at nililigtas pa niya to the point na nanganganib pa buhay niya! I Would've Killed that MotherF Pronto but with going thru torture First.

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  5. Pinoy Pride! I’m happy na maraming positive ang feedback sa Trese.

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    1. Saan mo nabasa? Puro puna about Liza nabasa ko, although Trase story is okay sayang Lang sa choice ng VA sa lead.

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    2. Same. Dito lang ako napa Pinoy pride sa Trese dahil kups ang government natin and ang sama ng news palagi.

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    3. Ang daming nega dito. Ok naman yung voice ni Liza. Not that bad.

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    4. 532 ok naman ang voice ni liza yes. However, ang voice acting niya ay flat. Yes given na yun ang character ni Trese, pero hindi talaga nag babago ang emotion. Try to look away and just listen. A vood voice actor kahit di mo nakikita like the (radio dramas) pero an iimagine mo at napupunta ka sa scene na yun in your head. You can fewl the anger, fear, excitement by just listening. Ganeerrn. Similarly, when reading books, if it is well written napupunta ka sa scene in your head.

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    5. Pag anime lover ka malaking impact ang voicer over kahit sabihin na cold and emotionless ang character ni alexandra hindi dapat ganun ka flat katulad kay Liza example na lang yung dubbing sa japanese cold yung boses ng nag va pero alam mo yung emotion na pinapakita niya based sa boses niya. Ayoko din yung english, japanese lang talaga yung bumagay. Siguro mag aral talaga siya sa pag voice over if may seasom 2 man ito just like sa mga Japanese VA's nag aaral talaga sila bago sumabak.

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  6. she released these statements because they saw the reviews about liza’s lousy dubbing

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  7. There's a difference between playing a cold, emotionless character and being an emotionless and wooden actor/actress. The former requires acting chops, the latter is the actor or actress' quality of acting. Being a wooden actor or actress doesn't mean he or she will be great at playing a cold and emotionless character.

    Casting doesn't mean you're casting the best talents for the role. More often than not, it's about casting talents that will help sell the project. Specially for new projects like Trese. Most animated shows are from Japan and the US so an animated series based on a Filipino comic book, set in the Philippines and making use of Filipino myths is new. They have to make sure it sells, right?

    But I think making a project sell has to do with getting the product in front of the right eyes. The producer here, who tries so hard to justify his miscast with a generous layer of past successes, read his target market wrong. The Liza fans are just a small segment of the animated series he was targeting, the bigger size of the market doesn't really care about her. What they would care about is getting the right talent - as in voice acting talent - for Trese.

    This should also be a wake up call to other producers. Some talents NEED to be SEEN to be appreciated. Not all actors and actresses can become voice actors. Just like not all theater actors, no matter how brilliant on stage, can easily crossover to mainstream. Liza, as we have seen and heard, needs to be SEEN to be appreciated.


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    1. Thank you for you analysis paralysis, however even with SEEN acting Liza needs more workshopsss!

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    2. 1256 kapag hindi kasi sikat ang nacast like Liza, karamihan din wlang paki. Just like me na hindi mahilig sa anime, hindi ko rin to papanuorin if not for Liza, tinapos ko pa. Lol, usually isang epi lang ako. Isa pa, she needs improvement and English dub was not better anyway. Ang slang pa ng mga tagalog words. I was hoping na matino nilang masasabi kasi mga halfie din sila, right? If may season 2, sana may improvement sa dubbing overall.

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    3. 3:51 AM - yeah you wouldn't watch it if not for Liza pero that's the point. You are not the main market of the series they are selling. You watching it will not make it successful. Liza's fanbase is not enough to make it successful if she turns off the main market that consumes this content - and this is what's happening. If the main market approves of her voice acting talent, her fanbase which includes you would be icing on the cake because she brought in a new segment into the market. But bringing you in and alienating the actual market for Trese will have only one consequence - it'll be a flop.

      It's not really your idol's fault, she's just hired help. It the "I've casted so many Batman's" fault and other executives who okayed who to cast and misread what who or what appeals more to their target audience.

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    4. Well, they achieved their goal and got their publicity.
      Even if it’s mostly nega

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    5. I don't mind casting Liza if their intent was to make it more marketable. I like her voice actually. They could've directed her better though and she should've spent more time preparing for the role instead of the 2 weeks she said where she spoke in straight Filipino.

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    6. Thank you 12:56!! A very detailed post of everything that's going on.

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    7. 521 still because of her, at least may mga taong curious sa Trese. Lol, I may like her but I never watched a single movie of her in netflix, actually lahat ng mainstream movies natin hindi ko pinanuod. Lol, parang sayang lang sa oras. Ganun yata ang nasa utak bakit nila sinali c Liza. I watched Trese in English ang Tagalog already, I am gonna watch it pa in German, hopefully it will be better. So far kasi sa 2 languages, it was meh. Lol

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    8. ako na lang, adik ako sa anime. pero will not match trese because of mediaocre VA ni Liza. Jujutsu Kaisen na lang panonoorin ko

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    9. Nosebleed... Pero agree ako sa lahat ng sinabi mo! Ito talaga ang comment na may laman.

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    10. Kalokohan yun, kahit wala si liza panonoorin ng mga pilipino yun. Knowing mga pinoy mga uhaw sa validation na kahit anong bagay o palabas ang maikonek sa pilipinas, nagkakandarapa sila.

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    11. 4:16 PM - watch it in Japanese. Japanese seiyuus are the best

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    12. 1034 then in 4 languages ko sya papanuorin. Idadamay ko na rin ang asawa ko kasi yun ang mahilig sa anime. Lol, thanks.

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  8. Honestly, I think they brought Liza on board for the hype / masa appeal.

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  9. In voice acting, dapat on point talaga at maganda delivery and timing to keep the interest of viewers. No hate kay Liza but if you want to venture in a different field dapat aside from workshop, massive immersion and learning sa voice range ginawa niya. At this time hindi enough ang fanbase with multiple accounts. 🎭

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  10. Sorry but i dont buy his reasons. The way i see it, they just used Liza because she has a large fanbase but other than that, she just sucks VA Alexandra. In another post that i found, Glaiza's voice is far better than Liza although I prefer real VA like the VAs from Pokemon, Doraemon, etc. Hopefully they can change the VA of Alexandra next season.

    And to Liza and Kaf tards, just accept the truth that Liza failed her role. She was just meh and as clichΓ© as it may sound, she really sounded monotonous - emotionless with a hint of slang pronunciation. Deal with it. This is neither about network wars (saw a lot of comments associating the criticisms about network wars), nor them(that includes me lol) bashing Liza because of jealousy or as may i quote, "bitter".

    Lastly, this is not crab mentality but this is constructive criticisms. chiao!

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    1. 1:00 marketing strategy naman kasi talaga na kinuha si Liza. Kung regular voice actor kinuha, mag iingay ba yan? Obviously, hindi. Pang hatak sa viewers kaya siya kinuha.

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  11. Why so many explanations on the casting? If they are really that good, then the work will speak volumes. Clearly, the voice actress did not deliver. I got bored at 1st epi. Will watch it in Japanese dub

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  12. Hay nako tumigil na kayo. Nawawala essence nung series napunta nalang lahat sa dubbing yun atensyon. Daming pa nakiki sawsaw ditong mga gusto sumikat

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  13. Alangan naman ilaglag siya ni Jay. Sorry pero hindi talaga bagay as VA si Liza. Kinuha lang siya kasi sikat siya.

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  14. The fact that they have to explain it. LOL

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    1. This, exactly! πŸ˜‚

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    2. Nagkagulo na! Haha bad publicity is still publicity daw e, no choice sila syempre need idefend kasi ang daming dissatisfied. They learned their lesson.

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    3. Totoo nman 156, that's the purpose. Lol, kung wla bang issue with this series, andito ba ito sa fp? Diba hindi rin nman. We are talking about it for 2 days already. Lol, baka nga in 4 languages ko pa papanuorin.

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  15. let's make it simple. in other words, liza was not good.

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    1. Liza and Trese are not a good fit🀷🏻‍♀️

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  16. mas maganda english version overall

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  17. Hindi natural ang deep voice ni Liza so it's just awkward. At ang tagal na niya sa Pinas baluktot pa rin ang dila.

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  18. Taray! May French at German pa. Already watched it in Tagalog. I will watch it in English at Deutsch pa saka na ako magfefeedback kapag napanuod ko na sa ibang languages.

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  19. Ang dami talagang perfect, andami alam. Di nalang matuwa sa nangyayari. Spread good vibes, hindi yung puro mali yung nakikita nyo. Isa pa, she was handpicked by Netflix, for sure they saw something kay Liza. Bilhin nyo nalang Netflix para mailagay nyo gusto nyong talent kung ayaw nyo ng napili nila.

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    1. Butthurt na tard 1:28 lmao πŸ˜‚

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    2. Was she though ?or she was choosen by the producer of the project. If i recall netflix picked the project in english and wanted a filipino dub to carter to more people as well but they left the casting choice to jay oliva and tanya yuson.

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    3. As if naman bulol o totally di naiintindihan ung pagkakadubbed ni Liza. Pwede naman may room for improvement, pero ung iba dito akala mo nalugi dahil si Liza ang handpicked.

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    4. Defensive much 1:28. These are viewing people who have seen it and voicing their dissatisfaction…hindi sila perfectionist they are just voicing their honest opinion/s

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    5. We're talking about Liza's subpar performance. We were happy when she was picked for this project, pero obvious naman na may mali sa outcome, but hopefully she gets all the necessary training for season 2.

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    6. Stop promoting and tolerating MEDIOCRITY 1:28 hindi good vibes lagi let’s Demand excellence so that we get better offerings and “talents like Liza” will do their best.

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  20. magaling naman talaga yun eng jap at spanish yun fil lang talaga ang awkward

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    1. 135 wla nman yatang Spanish. πŸ˜‚ Meron ba? Wla kasi sa amin. Lol

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  21. 12:47 You're right, same here. I watched the English and Japanese version which is way better than Liza's version. Sorry to disappoint some who like it, but c'mon we have a lot of good VA in the Philippines that could have deliver it better.

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  22. Showbiz dito kasi sa Pinas basta foreigner,sikat/may malaking fans club, dun artista na agad or bibigayan ng role malaking role. Sa Hollywood matindi ang audition.

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  23. Ang daming dram its just a dub.

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    1. Not when you get distracted from the story by the VA. If sanay ka sa pwede na, dun ka sa Wattpad Presents

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  24. Ang defensive naman! Sa bagay ang biggest criticism about sa show ay ang performance ni Liza...

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  25. I agree with casting someone who spoke better Filipino, but I don't think Liza sounds conyo, iba rin yung intonation nung ganun. What she does sound is unnatural and uncomfortable, yung tipong super self-conscious to say a word wrong.

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    1. Matigas dila nya. Halatang super controlled.

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  26. Glaiza De Castro could be Trese

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    1. Yan din naisip ko, yung astig yung boses. Or better if yung voice actor talaga ng animes sa GMA.

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    2. Nope. If they ever make a live action version of Trese, they might pick Bella POarch because she fits the role perfectly.

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  27. Take ko lang.

    Mas gusto ko boses ni Talabugsao sa Tagalog kesa sa English.

    Tagalog mas natural kasi sa Pinas yung setting.

    Liza did a good job overall pero may times na nag slip ung accent niya pero ayos lang.

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    1. True. Di ko rin maintindihan bakit mas gusto nila ang English, it was not better imo. Hopefully, season 2 nag improve na silang lahat. πŸ˜‚

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  28. Kung si maja sana kinuha mas bagay pa.

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    1. AnonymousJune 16, 2021 at 3:17 AM
      Nope. Please...tama na.

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  29. Ang hirap kasi ng Tagalog dubbing. But Liza did well as a first timer. Hope she will improve more.

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  30. Casted for the hype but it backfired..

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  31. The story is boring and too dark. Liza was never a good actress. People automatically think she’s a good actress because she’s attractive - and she’s not even THAT attractive. She only looks good with full make up specifically when her nose is contoured to look more western.

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    1. Hay, ang ganda na sana ng kritisismo ng iba until sinali mo ang itsura nya, like really? Lol, nakakaloka! Ganito ba tlaga ang mga Pinoy kasabaw.

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    2. Lol what happened to your childhood? Here, eat a chocnut!

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    3. Siguro super ganda mo? Tabi tabi po πŸ˜†

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    4. 4:38 picture nga dyan. LOL

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  32. Liza struggled in first few eps but eventually succeeded towards the end

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  33. I get it na marami sa atin mas gusto ang professional voice actors but let's give Liza a break! Lahat nlng ba puro puna mga pinoy? Ke animation, pageant, etc, may say talaga tayo, ano? Ang hirap talaga e please gusto perfect eh.

    Enjoy nlng natin ang show. Kung ayaw nyo ng tagalog version, yung japanese panuorin nyo o kaya yung English.

    Marami akong napanuod na animation na nakaka confuse yung dubbing but if the story is good, hindi na ako ng mind. How i wish di nlng muna nila sinabi si liza ng dub para tumahimik mga reklamador.

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    1. We share the same sentiments.

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    2. paano gusto mo? hindi sabihin na si Liza nag-dub? haha eh that is exactly why they got her--for promo and publicity.anubeh

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    3. yeah right, a break that she broke

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    4. Sasabihin talaga nila yung dubber. coz its the main point kaya kinuha nila si Liza.

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  34. Lies. LOL Netflix chose Shay and Liza.

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  35. Me and my friends enjoyed it. proud kami na may trese sa netflix. We also enjoyed the tagalog dub, of course di perfect ang dubbing but it’s more than okay... requirement ba talaga na perfect? Or na hurt lang kasi di VA ang kinuha? πŸ™‚

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  36. Maganda yung idea and concept ng trese. Watch it on English dub na lang. Mas bagay. #ResidentEvilPhilVersion

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  37. As a big anime fan, I watched first in Tagalog then switch to Japanese right away. There were times it didn't sound like in some moments, and her voice was too low even though the volume is already high. She seemed to control the modulation that it didn't sound natural. Also, another problem is the animation. I've checked the credits, Jay Oliva only directed the 1st episode,which is very important kasi it will give an impression at dun pa lng, based sa nabasa kong comments from Pinoys and foreigners, they stopped na. For Pinoys, its the dubbed, for foreigners, the animation style. Im not discrediting Jay, but the animation sucked big time 1st ep pa lng. Not many transitional expressions, I havent seen Trese blinked the whole series. Wala halos galaw mga mukha nila, awkward ang buka ng bibig. Wlang pake mga foreigners sa dub, actually Ive listened to French, Spanish, Dutch, German and Italian, maayos sila. Isa pang problema, daming Tagalog chants and terms na walng translations. How would the foreigners understand the series, eh hindi naman nla magets yung chant? Ok din na niretain kahit nahirapan mga VAs, bulol pa nga iba sa Tagalog chants, kaso dapat my translation din. Rushed pa ang story, episode 6 napakahaba ng exposition monologue ni Datu Talagbusao, they dumped and cramped it into 1 episode na dapat sana 2 or 3 more pa though I got it hindi siguro sapat budget nila. I know Jay and others were reading constructive criticisms from others para mas mahusay at ma improve pa sa season 2 or part 2 of season 1. The ending credits sa ep 6 showed meron pang karugtong, sana better animation, dubbing and storyline na.Sorry kung mahaba hehe, anime fan here. I liked the series actually, pero yun lang daming need to improve.

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    1. True lahat ng sinabi mo. May ibang comment dito parang maski isang epi wla pa yatang napanuod. Lol

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    2. "I've checked the credits, Jay Oliva only directed the 1st episode,which is very important kasi it will give an impression at dun pa lng, based sa nabasa kong comments from Pinoys and foreigners, they stopped na."

      Can you elaborate on this? I'm not familiar with Jay Oliva.

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    3. Plot wise din medyo nakulangan ako. May mga eksena na parang minadali.

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    4. 11:50 AM and 4:26 PM - anime fan here too but I couldn't soldier through episode 1. Ang pangit ng story, character design and overall production value ng animation. My problem was never with Liza, it was the story and animation. Of course the Tagalog dub and English dub were horrible for me but all non-Jap dubs are horrible for me - a given for most anime lovers.

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  38. VA na lang kasi dapat.. sa tiktok ang daming nagdub, mas maayos pa compared kay liza.

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  39. Aminin nalang kasi na kinuha for marketing purposes.

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  40. Yung pagkasabi pa lang ng - MAH NA LAH (Manila) yun ang nagdala eh

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  41. I did not watch the lifeless tagalog version.

    For sure, as for netflix algorithms? mas madami nanuod ng English version rather than the one voiced by Liza

    Pang loveteam lang forte ni Liza, she cannot even be like Nora Aunor as an actress

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    1. Di pwedeng kay Juday muna bago kay Nora ikumpara? πŸ˜‚ Maski yata sino, wla pang makakalagpas kay Nora eh.

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    2. Sawit nga mag Tagalog

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  42. i hope may english subtitle sa japanese dub version nito. nasanay na kasi akong japanese va pag nnunood ako ng anime

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    1. Yes meron english sub ang japanese dub version.Yun nga lang yung bumagay na dun sa trese.Awkward din for me ang English dub wala pa akong nagustuhan na English dub sa anime not until fushigi yuugi kasi mas maganda yung english dub kesa sa japanese dub niya. SuperB ang japanese dub, maeenjoy mo talaga nakadalawamg panood nga ako.

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  43. He mentioned in trese after dark that Netflix casted Shay, no auditions were held.

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    1. Netflix chose Shay, but not Liza. Sila sila lang ang nag-cast kay Liza.

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    2. Netflix had a lot of say in casting Liza, fyi. At the end of the day they chose marketability. That is what Netflix is known for.

      Shay was a Netflix decision too.

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  44. Hirap na hirap sila magdefend. Kung ginalingan na lang sa simula, edi walang backlash. Accountability is real hard for pinoys talaga.

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  45. Puro na lang kay Liza nafocus. Wala bang magkicritique sa plot or takbo ng story?

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    1. 5:17 PM - there are, my critique wasn't even Liza focused but it seems DDS trolls mixed with those with legitimate criticisms and maingay sila so naging Liza centric.

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  46. Anime lover here. Even watched old animes dubbed in Tagalog but tagalog dub for trese is quite awkward ang cringey because of alexandra trese. Thus, after minutes of trying to watch it in filipino, i switched to japanese instead.

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  47. Sana si Glaiza na lang para fierce!

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  48. Aminin nyo. If voice actress ang kinuha, hndi ganun ka hype ang promotion. Bka nasayang lang sa netflix or after 1 week lang pinag usapan. Ofcourse 1st anime na pinoy made sa netflix, kukunin tlga nila yung may fanbase and somehow keri naman ni Liza pero hndi tlga gnun kagaling.

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    1. Totoo to. Hahaha

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    2. Yan hilig sa hype e Di flop ang trese

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    3. Di din te. Pinapanood ang anime because of the story and voice actors.

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  49. Aside from liza's poor voice acting, I also hate the exaggerated pinoy accent. Not all Filipinos talk like that.

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  50. bahala na nga kayo jan. Kunin ninyo ulit sya sa Season 2. sabi nyo okay lang e

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  51. naka focus kasi ke lisa un promotion hindi sa story and merit ng series. sayang kasi as graphic novel maganda yan trese kaso hinain sa madlang ordinary showbiz, loveteam, loving pinoy na wla naman talagang background sa ganyang klaseng medium. manunuod lang kasi si lisa ang boses. and dahil dun ung ilang taong pinaghirapan ng mga creator ng graphic novel na yan na makabuild ng ganyan conmtent, sa isang iglap naging jologs na.

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  52. Kahapon pinanood ko yun series. Nung una husband ko nag aaya panoorin kasi he's into comics. Ilan beses ko sinasabi sa husband ko while watching na it reminds me of Batman. Yun Batman cartoon noong 90s ba? Ewan ko ba.. Tapos nabasa ko tong article na toh, grabe kaya pala.

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