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Tuesday, April 28, 2020

Insta Scoop: Derek Ramsay Engages Netizens in Debate on Police Conduct in Apprehending Subdivision Resident

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  1. True. I’m guilty of putting an angry reaction after one of my friends shared this Rappler article. But when I saw GMA’s full report, I had to retract that. Lesson learned, never give out an opinion without having read the full story. Salute to all our frontliners, medical or not.

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    1. Ung maid nagdidilig sa private property ng amo niya. Wala lang bakod pero within private property nakatanim un mga halaman na dinidiligan. 1k fine lang naman yan sana binigay na lang sa tanod at pulis. Tig 500 sila. Baka kelangan magmeryenda

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    2. Kahit nasa loob sya ng perimeter ng property, nasa labas pa rin sya ng bahay. At kung uubo sya o babahing, makaka-infect pa rin sya sa mga nakapaligid.yun ang point dun.

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    3. no. the part na nagdidilig yung helper is not their but already part of dva's. meaning common area!

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    4. 10:32 Hindi common area yon. Common sense na lang. Bakit mo didiligan un halaman na hindi within your property? Ang mahal ng tubig. Ang bait mo naman o wala ka lang sa wisyo kung gagawin mo yon.

      9:07 tresspassing nga un ginawa kung nagkataon na may bakod siya kahit nakahubot hubad un foreigner walang magagawa un pulis. Nakakakungkot na wala na common sense mga tao. My baril pa magsisita lang. Feel na feel nila.

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    5. ang problema kasi dyan, wala siyang BAKOD. ka yaman yamang tao, walang pagawa ng bakod. Nakakalito ang property line. So nagdilig ang maid sa pagkakaalam niya nasa loob pa siya ng property. Kasalanan niya na nakalimutan mag mask. Yung police nalito din, kasi nga naman side walk na ang tinutuntungan ng maid so ito ay outside the property

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    6. Police guilty of overreacting and bad judgement. That's it. Clearly the maid was on the property of her boss and clearly, an exclusive village is not really a crowded place. (Have you been inside one?) The police could've just reprimanded the maid and given her a stern warning, or filed a report. But noooo- they had to invade the property, harass the homeowners, even chasing the man inside his property. Obviously uminit ulo nya, dangerous since he carries a firearm.

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    7. 3:12, why then would homeowners and the Barangay Chairman request the police for help regarding those people? Ibig sabihin hindi first time nangyari yan. Ganyan rin protocol sa village namin lalo na at paulit-ulit na nangyari at reklamo.

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  2. Derek is right in siding with police. The village asked assistance from police kasi nga may mga homeowners na nagvviolate ng quarantine guideline at hindi kayang sitahin ng village security. Watch the other video yung taken from the very start wherein the police politely talked to the maid and then to the foreigner. Pasalamat siya dito sa Pilipinas nangyari yan kung sa ibang bansa baka basag mukha niya kung minura niya mga police dun. Dapat ideport yan.

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    1. Yes. In the US it's prohibited to swear at policemen apprehending you. They will really manhandle you if you're drunk and you resist arrest tapos mumurahin mo pa, lalo na siguro kung foreigner ka lang, dayo ka lang sa US tapos duru-duruin mo lang ang authority duon. NO, NO, NO. THEY WILL REALLY REMIND YOU WHO IS THE BOSS THERE AND IT'S NOT YOU.

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  3. May point si Derek. Pulis yun siempre dapat igalang. Anong sinasabi nung netizen na Sita lang at kelangan balik na sa precint and file a report? Ano ba ethnicity nyang foreigner na yan. I am not putting a racist card. Ang gusto ko lang sabihin kung dun nya ginawa sa bayan nya malamang ganyan din ang inabot nya. Contempt of a police officer is an offense. Bakit May police officer sa village? Malamang May nag reklamo.

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    1. Spanish ata sya. Nagi-spanish eh or maybe sa latin countries. Ang yabang.

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    2. 2:06 sabi kasi sita sita lang. pero nagmention ang pulis ng 1k fine.
      so ang tanong dian, bakit pumasok na ang maid sa bahay, tapos paglabas niya, andun pa rin ung pulis. wag na tayo maglokohan, humingi na ng fine yan. kaya nga mainit na ung foreigner pag labas nila.

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    3. 2:10 ni-remind lang ng pulis yung maid na hindi pwede mag-stay sa labas ng walang suot na mask at may katapat na 1000 pesos fine pag viniolate mo yun. Batas yan sa ECQ. Pero iba ang sumbong nung maid sa amo nya. Hinihingan daw sya ng 1000 pesos ng pulis bilang multa. Yung pavement kung nasaan yung maid ay part yun ng DVA, ayon mismo sa Barangay Chairman. At kaya nagpunta dun yung pulis ay dahil may natanggap silang reklamo. Basahin mo kasi yung statement ng Barangay Chairwoman. Huwag kasi kuda agad.

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  4. According to the statement of the Brgy Captain, the foreigner wrote to Rappler and posted the part of the video where he was pinned to the ground by the policeman. Brgy/Police had another video showing what happened prior to the "assault scene."

    Same statement claimed the police only warned the maid she could be fined for not wearing mask. Maybe iba nasabi ng maid sa mga amo niya.

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  5. Mali nga report ng Rappler. There is another video sana mapakita yun. That Parra is an awful person. Sana madeport sobra ang bastos and arrogance

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  6. Jusko, tama naman si derek dito ah. Porke mayaman may karapatan na manggulo yan?

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  7. Non issue ito. Not wearing mask habang nagdidilig within their property tapos aabot sa physical alteration..joke..altercation. Masyado bang boring ang ecq jan sa village kaya dapat may wrestling match?!

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  8. Sus, ang arogante ng ibang banyaga sa atin. Umuwi yan sila sa sarili nilang bansa at lumabag sa batas, hindi lang multa abot nyan, makukulong pa yan.

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  9. Dapat rumespeto yong foreigner sa pulis pero ito ang mga nakikita kung mali na iniimplement ng gobyerno. 1- Ano ba ang medical bases ng pagwear ng mask sa labas ng bahay kung wala namang mga taong nakapaligid sa'yo? Hindi nga ba ang pagwear ng mask ay kailangan lang kung hindi mo maiwasang lumayo sa mga taong nakapaligid sa'yo like in the grocery store? 2- Ano naman ang legal basis ng paniningil ng multa sa paglabag dito? 3. At bakit mo aaristuhin ang isang tao kung wala ka namang dalang warrant of arrest? 4. What's the legal basis of using force kung warrantless arrest ang gagawin mo?

    Well, this guy could end up getting deported but come to think of it.... Pinoy ang totong dehado dito because this government is using this pandemic to curtail freedom of people. Pinoy, wake up!

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    1. Anong curtail of freedom na naman ang sinasabi mo dyan? Yung mura murahin yung kababayan mo na isang person of authority ng isang foreigner, papayagan mo yun? Fyi, kaya nagpunta ang pulis dun kasama ang ibang staff ng Barangay dahil may nag-complain na residente dun. Anong ginawa nung foreigner paglabas na paglabas sa bahay? Di ba pinagsisigawan at pinagmumura at ininsulto pa yung pulis?

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    2. Sana nanood ka Ng Double A kanina sa GMA. Nasagot lAhat Ng tanong mo. Iyoutube mo na lang. Panoorin mo ha?

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    3. 7.01 "City Ordinance No. 2020-089 requiring people to wear face masks or other protective gear when in public places".- The City Ordinance said it very clear. It said wear face masks when in public places NOT private places. So, walang violation dun. Yong pulis ang may violation kasi: 1- he entered a private property of an individual para sabihin 'yong mali niyang interpretation ng city ordinance at nagaask pa ng multa sa nandidilig. 2- Another violation uli ng pulis dahil sabi niya sa spanigh man: "You will need to come with me because you are under influenced of alcohol and you are not in a normal state of mind." As far as I know there's no law prohibiting an adult individual to drink alcohol inside their house. 3- Another violation of the police is when he followed the man and entered his property to assault him just to save face dahil napahiya. Kung dito sa US ito nangyari malamang patay itong pulis na ito dahil ang mga tao dito ay may right to defend themselves when they get assaulted first lalo na't trespassing siya. 4- Again the Spanish man could get deported though not because pinahiya niya 'yong pulis but because of the evil power of Duts. 5 - Ang SWELDO ng mga pulis (ALL government officials) ay galing sa taxes at ang binabayaran sa kanila ay ang TAMANG pagpapatupad nila ng batas, hindi ang pag-flex nila ng EGO nila at pagSAVE FACE nila sa kahit ninuman, mapalocal or foreigner kapag napahiya. So I don't care kung napahiya siya if he's in the wrong because implementing a LAW is not about that.

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  10. I'm on Derek on this one. He runs a security company for a living. He somehow knows how the procedure goes.
    Clickbait article for Rappler though. Also everyone also made sawsaw to this, COVID 19 stays on surfaces and remains in the air in some sort of suspension for some time. Would it hurt anyone to wear a mask?

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  11. issue : is it wrong for the police to accost someone in their private property when its "outside" ? private property extends to the boundary of your lot area, which may include your immediate sorrounding.

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  12. Can you imagine a Filipino living abroad doing that to a local police officer?? Surely, that filipino will be on jail. Those fil-netizens would be blaming that filipino for disobeying other countries law, they would start calling that filipino "pasaway" "walang modo" "utak pinoy" "hindi nagiisip".
    But of course, this happened here in the PH specifically in an affluent village and a foreigner is involved.🤷🤷

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  13. Ay ay ay. Porket si derek nagreklamo agree kayo? Una nasa private property yung maid habang nagdidilig so di kailangan ng mask. At pangalawa, sinasabihan na yung pulis na umalis dun bakit nagstay pa din sya? Sabihin na nayung bastos yung homeowner, pero sino naman ang hindi mababastos kung hihingiannka ng 1k na multa dahil lang hindi nakamas sa sariling bakuran? At hindi nyo rin nakita ang puno’t dulo ng argumento kahit sa magkaparehong video. Nagsasayang kamo sila ng resources na galing sa kaban ng bayan kesa pinagtutuunan ng pansin ang mga totoong problemang nangyayari, naninita ng nasa loob ng bahay nila habang ang daming walang mask na naglalakad sa kalsada hindi mahuli huli

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    1. Narinig mo ba na hiningan ng 1000 fine yung maid? Mismo ang Barangay Captain ng DV ang nagpatunay na hindi totoo ang bintang na yan.

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  14. The foreigner seems to be really looking for trouble. Na-settle na ang gulo nang ipatawag, both sides, sa Barangay. But after that, the foreigner wrote to Rappler and even sent an edited video na hindi naman pinakita ang buong pangyayari, kung pano pinagmumura at ininsulto ng foreigner ang police. Ang sasakit ng binitiwan nyang salita sa isang person of authority. Basahin nyo kasi ang statement na inissue ng Barangay chairwoman ng Dasma Village at dun pa lang malalaman na walang kasalanan ang police. Napaka-arrogante ng porendyer na yan. Sa Rappler pa talaga humingi ng saklolo?

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    1. It's called freedom 10.05 and it's rappler's call to decide on what to do.

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  15. Wag pumayag magpaapi sa mga Espanol, matagal na nila tayong di colonized. Mga hambog at inaapi mga kapulisan natin porke mayaman

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  16. Agree with derek. Paka bastos ng foreigner na yan. Nakatira nga sa dasma pero ugaling iskwater.

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  17. Why is that foreigner so freaking mad about the 1k fine eh he lives in a private subdivision naman? I bought my washable face masks for 50 pesos only, bat hindi niya binilhan si inday ???

    Imagine... 1000 pesos versus 50 pesos mask. Galit na galit? Makikipagbasagan ng mukha sa police dahil sa 1k fine na deserve naman talagang singilin sa kanya??? LMAO? Give me a break, pack your bags and go back to spain!

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    1. Hmmm, because he is in his property, diba.

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    2. Hmmmm... Because his property doesn't have a gate so pag umubo yung maid na walang mask or may dumaan na wala ding mask at umubo eh nagkahawaan sila. Wala kang common sense diba, diba, diba???

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  18. I will just share ha kasi banyaga din nman involve dyan. Yung tita ko sa US maski sa likod bahay lang at nag tethreadmill ng wlang mask sinita sya ng mga pulis doon. Sa atin ba anong patakaran dyan at ganyan umasta yang ungas na yan.

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    1. Dito rin sa subdivision kung saan kami nakatira may rule na bawal lumabas ng bahay na walang suot na mask. Kahit kasambahay na magwawalis lang sa labas ng bahay ay kailangan naka-mask.

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    2. May ibang mga tao ba na na sa paligid ng tita mo? Magkaiba kasi yong wala sa meron. Ang guidelines ni Gov. Cuomo sa amin here in ny is wear a mask kung hindi maiiwasang lumayo sa mga tao. Hindi yong wear a mask all the time when you are outside of the house regardless of the situation. So hindi pwedeng gawin yan ng mga pulis yang sinasabi mo dahil magkakaroon ng civil war dito pag nagkataon.

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    3. Sa pinalabas ng Makati, kahit inside your property basta outside your house, dapat naka mask. Di ko lang ma post dito picture.

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    4. Anon 6:51 no wonder u are one with the highest case of covid. Regardless malayo ka or malapit sa tao as long as nadadaanan yung dinaanan mo ng ibang tao kung positive ka, may potential na makahawa ka. The virus stays in the air po for a period of time as well as on the ground po thus it was advised to leave ur shoes outside before stepping inside ur home because the virus can stay on pavements din.

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    5. 5:56AM Read 6:51 message carefully because it's obvious that you didn't understand what he/she said.

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  19. overstaying daw ung Espanol sabi sa balita

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    1. Deport na yang abusadong yan. Tanggol pa more mga invisible warriors na parang COVID na invisible din.

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    2. Fake news yan, baks.

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  20. Meh, pasipsip lang si Derek lagi kasi.

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  21. Meh, it’s his private property. Nobody has any say on what he does there. OA lang ang police diyan. Power tripping Lang talaga.

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  22. No way. The police was wrong here. It’s his property, his rule. It’s that simple.

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    1. This is OUR country, OUR rule. It's that simple.

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    2. Trot. Wala namang masamang ginagawa ang foreigner. It was just him and a member of his household in his own property minding their own business. Padrama lang si mamang pulis. Bored siguro.

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    3. 2:59,Tama ka.

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  23. The police was too eager and nonsensical. The foreigner is in his property and was not interacting with anyone outside of his property.

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