@1:01--->"MAKING HIM" only shows that VICE is still a "he", "lalake", at may "tt", etc. na certified male creation of Someone up there na hindi puedeng ma-alter from within. Truth hurts...btw, i'm his avid fan from overseas. I❤Vice!
Unless during the process of gender change from man parts to woman parts a vagina and womb can be grown, a man who underwent sex change shall remain that and not a woman. Let's not muddle the issue. I have always found Tito Sotto offensive and tackless but in this particular case he is right.
Vice identifies naman as gay, at sinasabi naman nya madalas na lalaki sya 2:29. Love ko rin sya kasi relate ako sa mga kuwentong Tondo nya, pero iba rin ang dating sa akin ng post nya, ang butthurt lang. Sa dami ng di agree sa sinabi nya, nag-off tuloy sya ng comments sa ig nya.
Yes I think Vice is using his influence to make people support the idea of SOGIE bill being a law created for equality when what they want clearly is contrary to equality since they transgress rights of others sexes (original sexes) just to impose their wishes.
As a woman that has many failed attempts of conceiving, slightly offended ako na ikumpara ni VG sa mga trans. Why? We have ovaries and trans doesn’t have. It’s as if sinasabi nya na same ang reproductive organ ng mga hirap mag conceive sa mga trans.
He’s a public figure, I hope he’ll think 1000x before voicing out his opinion lalo na kung medyo selfish ang reasoning nya.
1:41 1:33 Vice actually compared trans sa mga babae na baog (sorry 1:05) so dapat daw hindi lang yung pagiging kaya magka anak ang batayan ng pagiging babae. Eh pero may matres ang babae baog man o hindi so mali galaga ikumpara dun or even mention yun
Dapat kasi sinabi nalang na parehas tayong mga human being. Ang trans e gawa nalang ng tao ang babae e pinanganak na babae. Kaya malaki talaga kaibahan.
I hope you'd think twice.Vice is not a woman,she is a trans,she is making it appear that she is part of Womankind.No,big difference.Trans are trans,women are women.
1:33 and 1:41 if you are not a woman and you are a trans,stop making adhominem attacks na as if ovaries are your thing.Vice don't have that.Hes a trans.Trans are Trans,Women are Women!
Ang babae may matres functioning or hindi babae pa din and that is something that Trans will never have as simple as that. Vice is simply diverting the issue by making it appear that Sen Sotto meant something offensive to women who cant or chose not to have a child
i see Vice's concern more personal,to embarass or make Tito Sen look bad. He can stand up for the Sogie bill without maligning others, nagdeactivate pa ng comment section after madaming babae magreact sa sa maling intindi niya sa sinabi ng isa.
Yan ginagawang witch hunt ng mga yan lahat ng commenters regarding Sogie.Binabastos nila lahat na may taliwas na paniniwala.When it comes down to numbers,mas marami po kami,majingay lang itong trans.Do not make us hate you.Magkakagulo talaga ang Pinas pag pinilit nyo yang gusto niyo.
Technically, definition of a woman speaks for itself. Technically, man AND woman
While SOGIE is a sensitive and complicated issue, hope the community will learn to somehow respect the rights of the rest too. It's highly impossible for establishments, malls and other public places to accommodate having at least 7 restrooms for the SOGIE community alone, right?
Stick to the rules of the law as long as everyone is not tampering and abusing such. RESPECT for the straight men and women too if they have proper and respectful opinions to share.
Straight men and women can't always be the ones to blame for each single act of "harassment" against the SOGIE community. Konting salita lang, "harassment" agad. Wag naman sana.
Gurl 1:11, read SOGIE. It's not just for LGBTQIA+, but for all. Yan ang prblema sa inyong kuda ng kuda. Hindi pa nababasa ang buong nilalaman ng bill, comment na ng comment. SOGIE is not a community. LGBTQIA+ is.
Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity and Expression Equality Bill or Anti-Discrimination Bill. Gahd this people.
Correct! Exactly.There are existing laws that.would protect all type of genders under the constitution.Do not complicate things to accomodate a small number of people.
Hindi lang naman po about restrooms ang SOGIE. Nahighlight lang yun dahil sa nangyari kay Daez. Some important inclusions in SOGIE is: Hindi ka pwedeng matanggal sa trabaho/hindi i-hire dahil lang LGBTQ ka Hindi ka pwedeng matanggal sa school dahil lang LGBTQ ka Hindi ka pwedeng ideny ng medical service dahil lang LGBTQ ka Hindi pwedeng magpublish ang media ng bagay na makakasira sa image at pananaw sa LGBTQ (ex: kapag gay, automatic manyak)
Hindi ba natin yun pwedeng ibigay sa mga LGBTQ? Hindi natin naappreciate yan kasi naeenjoy natin yang rights na yan. I remember yung ex boss ko, hindi sya naghihire ng gay and lesbian. Outright nyang sinabi yun sakin.
8:19 you read! There is an impunity clause wherein people get jailed for not letting the trans in CR,for laughing for not hiring the lgbtq,arent these things existing in the present constitution? There is no need for a separate law for lgbtqia.Or to label such as Sogie. The only difference is the same sex marriage part.
8:19, there are existing laws that protect EVERYONE from discrimination. The Constitution provides for the basic human rights that cover ALL. The Labor Code has anti-discrimination rules that cover ALL. Basically, Section 5 of the bill is covered, so why is there a need for this SOGIE bill? You are deluding people when you say the SOGIE bill is for all. Kaya nga SEXUAL ORIENTATION and GENDER IDENTITY and EXPRESSION ang tawag dun, ibig sabihin this is for those who have sexual PREFERENCE or CHOICE which is different from what they were born with, in short para sa LGBTQ. Wag masyadong magmagaling at pabibo dahil madami din ang nagbasa ng bill.
@1:25pm super agree,ang daming loopholes ng sogie bill @11:25 ang post at push mo ay the good side para magsympathize sa inyo ang people sa gusto nyo,pero hindi mo siunulat ang mga loopholes at disadvanges para sa mga nakakarami
Hindi lang naman pagiging LGbT ang dahilan kung bakit ka made deny sa trabaho. Pwedeng dahil di ka talaga qualified. If this law passes, pag hindi kayo na hire because of other reasons, you will make it appear na dahil yun sa pagiging LGBT
11:35 bakit hindi nyo dinemanda ang ex boss ninyo kung tingin ninyo na hindi ka hinire dahil sa LGBTQIA ka? o kaya pina tulfo? meron naman anti discrimination law na existing.
2:25 ditto. Ang daming sinasagasaan ng bill na ito. It's as if they haven't read other laws. Concern ko din ang provision for being denied medical services. Hello, if sa private hospital na dine deny ka, one of the biggest reason is that baka ang injury mo came from crime. Most hospitals want you to get to a medico legal first before they attend to you. Kaya sila maarte minsan mag admit ng patients. So if ang isang LGBT+ ay na refuse ng medical attention pero di niya alam na ito ang rason, baka isipin niyang harrassment agad. So punishment na agad? Hay.
But i guess it is up to the one who will hire kung ayaw niya lgbtq. Sila naman kasi makakasama d ba? Kanya kanya lang yan. Kung ayaw ka sa isang kumpanya, eh d hanap ka ng tatanggap sa iyo. Kahit naman straight, pag na antipatikahan sa iyo, hindi ka rin iha hire. Masyado pa kasing hasale kung feeling ng lgbtq na hindi sila na hire dahil sa sexual preference nila. Malay mo na hindi talaga sila qualified or may iba pang reasons.
Tingin siguro ni VG magagalit ang mga babae kay Tito Sen sa mga salitang ginamit nya. Pero naku, tama naman si Tito Sen dun. I agree witg him this time. Kaya ba pwede lang tigilan nyo na yan marami pang mas importanteng problema na kailangan solusyunan.
He is not outdated he’s simply stating a fact. They can call themselves names gays, transgender, transwoman etc etc but they can never be a biological woman cause they never were to begin with.
Wed rather have his backwardness than progressive kuno but not appropriate for this society.Go and migrate in Europe or Canada if you are unhappy with our existing laws here.
Panong naging ignorante 1:36am? Please convince me, ano ang definition mo ng male and female? Pakimention mo na din kung ano meron sa babae na wala sa trans!
If tingin nyo ignorant kami, imbis na puro lait ang ibaato nyo sa amin, why not present a valid argument? Sobrang dami ko nang binasang comments ng pro sogie, and not even one of them were able to present a strong case. Inuunahan nyo kasi agad ng galit at insulto against the anti sogie peeps, kaya hindi na kayo nakakapagdefend ng maayos.
Mashare ko lang... sa medical field may mga parameters na iba yun normal value ng male sa female. Sa mga trans, kahit magpasexual reassignment kayo ang susundin pa rin na normal value sa dugo nyo ay yung normal value ng original gender nyo para magamot kayo accordingly. I don’t like Tito Sotto pero I agree with him na hindi kailanman magiging babae ang trans. Unless makaimbento ng way na mabago ang genes/chromosomes, males will always be males and females will always be females.
1:57, pwede kayong kasuhan niyan under the SOGIE bill kasi discrimination yan. GUSTO nila i-consider silang BABAE and therefore dapat female values ang gamitin niyo. You cannot insist on what is medically correct just like you can’t differentiate a female from a male based on physiological composition.
In the US napag alaman based on medical research that there is such a thing as GENDER Dysporia.Yung pinanganak na may biological mismatch.Lalaki pero ang kalooban babae etc. Na karamihan sa trans ay ganito. May mga psychiatrust na humahandle sa ganitong kaso.
how i wish the GREAT Miriam Defensor Santiago is still alive to put this senator in his place! She's the first one to submit a version of the sogie bill 2 decades ago sayang tita miriam. you are definitely missed
This society is not Europe,this is not Canada and not US. Kung sa US nga may mga estado na hindi man lang pumasa ang Sogie bill. First world countries have the ability to support the lgbtqia community by providing psychologists,medical assistance,financial assistance under the Sogie bill.Hindi naghihirap o dukha ang mga tao.
2:12 jusko naman teh, namamahinga na yung tao idadamay mo pa sa issue, all the more reason na hindi talaga papasa yan even kahit nung buhay pa siya, wag ng ipilit acheng!
Actually, masyado kasi pabor ang society natin sa mga babae, kaya gusto yun makuha ng mga trans. If you think about it consequences ito ng mga choices women made, hindi nila fault pero part of the consequences. Example kung ung mga babae tinanggap na ang subjective ang beauty at walang standard, edi sana walang cosmetic industry, edi sana walang way para ang mga trans maganyong babae. Ung mga retoke retoke, nauso yan sa babae ngayun the same technique and surgeons ang nagoopera sa trans. Hindi kasalanan ng mga babae bakit may trans, pero kaya nagkatrans kasi consequence yan ng mga choices ng mga babae, gets nyo ba?
What? So ngayon kasalanan pa ng babae na nagkaron ng trans? Choice ng babae mag undergo ng cosmetic enhancements same way na choice din ng mga lalake mag anyong babae. So wala palang sariling pagiisip ang mga trans at kung ano makita yun ang gagawin nila oh come on
Kalma lang, may point naman sya na hindi kasi exclusive for women ang mga makeup at cosmetic industry, kung naging exclusive for women yung beauty industry malamang walang trans ngayon.
As much as I hate Tito Sotto, gotta admit that he's right this time. The logic is simple and yet Vice tried to take it out of context and make it up to something that he thinks will turn Women against Sotto, he greatly miscalculated the intellect of Women if he thinks he can make us hate Sotto and turn everyone proSOGIE. Vice, we are not siding with Sotto on a personal level or him per se, we are siding with what he is saying and what he is fighting for because that's what makes sense. So whatever attack you have on him wont work because we already know that he isnt a saint. We can hate him and at the same time agree with him if what he's saying makes sense because Women are THAT open minded.
Sorry meme vice, madami pa ring ignorante sa mundo. We are not accepted, but merely tolerated. Wag na nating ipilit. Hindi pa sila handa. Dun na lang tayo mag-cr sa mga bahay natin.
I am an LGBT member. The day I outed as gay and accepted is already A HUGE thing. So, ano ignorante dun? Sabihin mo madami sating LGBT members e demanding at isa ka dun 2:40. I am hapoy my family has accepted me for who I am. Growing up with a brusko tatay at kuya had been my challenge but I managed to overcome that. So, wag mo isama ang ibang members ng LGBT 2:40am. You are so wrong!
You are accepted, we accept all of you, the lesbian, the gays, the trans and the other different letters. Unfortunately, you are the one who cannot accept yourselves parang diring diri kayo na ang classification sainyo ay trans, part of accepting who you are is recognising the fact that you are previously "your born reproductive organ" and wants to change as the opposite gender. Trans are different to Natural Born Women and Men, same as to Men are different to Women. And that's the natural law, we are all unique and that's okay. Kayo and may issue na ipinipilit niyong pareho ang magkakaiba
Just because d kayo mapagbigyan sa gusto nyo ibig sabihin ignorante na kmi. LGBT are very much accepted now a days. Pero ilagay dn po ninyo sa lugar ang mga demands ninyo. Let us protect and understand each other's right.d dahil hindi nasunod ang gusto nyo, dinidiscriminate na agad kayo. Hwag masyadong pa victim.
oo nga, ang dami pa ring ignorante, at mga nagbubulag-bulagan. di nila alam ang tunay na kahulugan ng pagiging lalaki at babae. may mga taong di matanggap ang mga sarili nila, pero may gana pang ipagpilitan na tanggapin sila ng iba.
2:40 sorry teh,Welcome to the real world.There is no such thing as equality in anything.There will always be class struggle.Mahirap vs Mayaman,Maputi vs Maitim.Lalaki vs Babae.Unless sa ibang planeta ka nakatira doon mo mahahanap ang equality.
240 and 815, It's you who are ignorant. Don't call us IGNORANTE just because we don't agree with your views. No matter what you say or do to your body, you will never be real women. Wait millions of years for evolution to catch up, maybe then gender can be changed on a whim. But for now, accept what is.
Ignorante? Not even your fellow trans think the way some of you think. We are not ignorant. You are just being delusional into thinking that women and trans are the same. Again, no amount of surgery can turn man into woman. And your feelings of being a woman do not validate or make you one. You are openly able to express yourselves in this predominantly Catholic country and you should be grateful for that. Acceptance starts when you acknowledge your real dna and biological characteristics as a man and not insist on stomping women’s right.
Totally agree with Sen Sotto. He is just stating a Fact. Which in reality is very true. Kahit baliktarin pa ang mundo. Ang lalaki ay lalaki padin at ang babae ay babae padin. Vice on the other hand is using his influence to speak out on behalf of the lgbtq+ but his opinion is out of the context. If iintindihin mo yung sinabi ni Sen Sotto walang mali sa sinabi niya but Vice took if personally and attacked him making Sen Sotto the bad person "just because" he stated a fact. I'm really a fan of Vice and watches Showtime everyday but sometimes he give opinions in a philosophical way and doesnt really understands the situation before speaking out.
Sometimes gays are overstepping their boundaries. You have rights I get that but respect women rights too. Hindi talaga tayo magiging equal kahit baligbaligtarin mo pa ang mundo.
It all boils down to attitude. Vice is encouraging gays not to fight for their rights but to be so demanding and entitled. Bakit yung ibang gays they can act with class and finesse; and they don't insist on using female toilets. Pang kalye kasi ugali ng iba
Vice's post was a lost cause and it was unnecessary. I think ang aim nya sa post nya is to have people pit vs Tito Sotto (who is not generally well liked) but apparently it backfired on him. Kahit pag balik baliktarin ang mundo, magka anak man ang babae o hindi, the fact na may ovary sila at uterus eh babae silang maituturing. Si Vice kunwari pang itinataas ang bandila ng kababaihan when gusto nya lang maiangat ang mga trans sa same level ng babae which will never happen. Until trans can have ovaries and uterus, mga lalaki pa rin kayo.
Walang personalan trabaho lang, trabaho po ng senators isipin ang proposal SOGIE which is in the end putting women in danger of possible fake trans trying to get into female toilets to commit crimes. Ano kaya nyo ipaglaban once may mapahamak na tootong babae? Hindi diba ,so wag na ipilit ang mali is Mali . There no point of stirring up women’s anger towards the senator. We know our rights as natural born females.
Aral na aral po kami.Hindi namin ito gusto dahil may kasamang impunity o kulong sa mga straight na tao.Halimnawa may mga natawa,ikukulong yan pati yung janitress na hindi pinapasok si Gretchen sa CR ng babae,ay makukulong under this sogie.Wag ganun.
Naku aral na aral kami,that is why we are against it.The CR incident is just one factor in SOGIE,the only difference is makukulong ang janitress sa ginawa niya.So No to Sogie.
Sus ito pa ang isang all-knowing. Porke’t hindi agree sa kanila i-assum na hindi na nagbasa. Basahin mo din ang Labor Code & Constitution para mahimasmasan ka at malaman mo na ang kinocover ng bill ay nandun na. Yang mga discriminatory practices na sinasabi sa Section 5 ng bill covered na. Wag masyadong pa-importante na kailangan pa ng separate na bill. 🙄
10:08 teh iuwi mo yang sogie kung san ka mang bansa ka,dyan yan hindi dito.Pilipinas po ito.Walang nakakaintindi sa depinisyon mo.Wala ding support system na makukuha dahil hindi naman mayaman na bansa ito.
I agree with Tito Sen. He may have a lot of questionable statements before, but his stand regarding this issue is clear as day. By the way, let me enumerate some of the LGBTQs arguments that I found quizzical:
1) You are homophobic because you can’t accept that transwomen are women?
If transwomen really thinks that they are women, wouldn’t that make us heterophobic? and if transwomen can’t accept that they are anything other than being a real woman, wouldn’t that make them homophobic as well?
2) Having ovaries and a womb is not the only essence of being a real woman:
In these present times, yes, I agree that those are not the only factors that makes a woman a woman, but they are major factors of being a woman. Even women who had it removed had ovaries and a womb when they were born. Heck, even hermaphrodites had a womb when they were born. Meaning that all women are built by God with the capacity to bear a child and nothing is more sacred than having that gift. How is the human race going to exist without a woman’s womb? Even your mom has a womb, that is why you are existing here on earth, and fighting for your rights right now. Please don’t underestimate the power of the womb and everything it stands for, because that would mean underestimating all mothers who sacrificed everything for their child just by giving birth.
Also, you trans are correct on the premise that having our wombs and ovaries removed doesn’t make us any less of a woman. But isn’t it also of the same premise that having your man parts removed doesn’t make you any less of a man?
Please lng vice wag isama ang mga babae s issue.. i personally respect the lgbt people, but then, ncocompromise na ang security ng mga babae specially ng mga bata in this issue.. so please just shut up... go tito sen...
Hello! Men will never be women naman talaga! Tito Sotto had made ridiculous remarks in the past but he’s so right this time! Although being able to bear a child may not be every woman’s choice or destiny, still, she was designed to carry life in her womb. That can never happen to any man!
That’s your own discrimination bias and ignorance, and not based on facts. Once transformed with the use of hormones and surgery, their physical appearance match their psychological makeup. They are now transformed to be their real selves. Gets mo.
Stop making your own reality 2:34. You don't transform entirely because the moment you stopped taking in hormones, you switch back to looking like a man.
2:34, wow. so magkakamatris ka pag nagpasurgery ka at naghormones? i feel so ignorant now! e di finish na pala ung laban. magiging babae ka naman na pala talaga kasi pwede ka na installan ng matris. pero wait, pag nagkasakit ka at bawal na maghormones dahil sa medications, pano na? e di balik lalaki na uli itsura mo? *insert sarcasm here*
2:34 tiga Pilipinas ka ba? Sa buong population ng trans,ilan lang ang can afford to have surgery? To have hormone injections.Sa Canada,libre ng gobyerno ang gender reassignment surgery.Pilipinas po ito.Unahin pa yan kesa kumakalam na sikmura! Wag mo paganahin yan dito.
2:28 Galit na galit kayo pag hinuhugahan kayo pero kayo din mismo, hinuhusgahan niyo ang tao dahil lang hindi siya pabor sa ka-OA-yan ng iba sa inyo at gumagawa ng issue.
If existing laws in the Philippines cannot protect you or is not enough to protect your Rights as humans,kindly do yourself a favor and migrate to Canada and Europe where you can find all the freedoms you want.2:28 umalis!
wait lang, from most comments I've read, you are claiming na ang backward ng Pinas kasi sa ibang bansa, pinasa etong sogie, na sa western country, eto ang IN. tapos ngayon, biglang it doesn't matter na di to pinasa sa US? guys, really good at twisting arguments as long as it favors you huh?
2:26 so whats your battle.When Sogie in itself did not ome from the Philippines.Kaya nga hindi maintindihan ng Pilipino.Ano ang intersexual,ano ang asexual? Ano ang binary? Since when did these definitions fit in the Philippine society?
622 true yan! Nabasa mo pa yung ibang comments nila dito? Sa sobrang wala na silang mahalughog sa baul nilag na valid arguments, ngayon pinaglalaban nila na ang chromosome daw ay natatamper at nababago na din with science! Pati science, eh tinitwist nila towards their favor kaloka
Trans are trans. Gays are gay. Women are women. We're all different, yet we're all humans and we should all be equal in the eyes of the law. Our gender orientation/expression shouldn't define our humanity and degrade our lives to live
This is why I don’t agree when the beauty queen apologized for saying trans should not join Miss Universe. They may look female, but their chromosomes and biological make up disqualifies them from joining. They should have their own beauty pageant. I have a lot of gay and lesbian friends, and I accept and respect them but they have to respect others and their opinions too.
If they have transformed to being female then they are female. Chromosomes can be tempered with hormones, as in male or female hormones. Biological make up is only secondary to the psychological make up. You can change the biological makeup with hormones and cosmetic surgery, you can’t change the mental or psychological makeup of a person. Know what you are saying, please.
balik kang science class 2:25. See that is the reason you don't get it, you make your own reality pati science twisted nyo. Hoemones never change dna chromosomes fyi
In line with your comment 12:08am, please educate me, akala ko hindi pwede sumali sa mga beauty pageants for women like miss u, miss world, bbp etc. pag nagundergo ka ng enhancements like sa breast or nose etc? Allowed ba?
Excuse me 2:25 but no amount of surgery, hormone injections or anything else will change someone's DNA from a man's to a woman's (or vice versa). And there is no current (or probably future) technology can replace a chromosome in all of our trillions of cells. Know what you are saying, please.
It is called Gender Dysphoria.Please research.Now sa ibang bansa,binibigyan ng psychiatrist,counselling etc interventions before you can undergo the surgeryor if you will be allowed to transform.
947 FYI, trans women can join the Miss Universe pageant. Trump allowed it when he was the owner of MUO. I lost respect for this pageant when they allowed the trans to join. Just imagine, REAL women who are single, but have given birth are NOT allowed. Real women who have been divorced are NOT allowed regardless if they've given birth or not.
4:01 kaya naman nila ginawa yun not because of equality but because they would lose half of their viewership, which are composed of LGbTs, if hindi nila inallow ang trans. Hindi na kasi pinapansin ang Miss Universe in most countries. Tama ka sa sinabi mo, ang true equality in miss universe ay kung pinasali din nila ang single moms, annulled or divorced females, or plus sized females (US size 12 and up). Mga Miss pa din naman sila and inborn females pa, and yet, they are banned from joining.
Please trans people.. dont make the world too complicated.. we have enough problems na.. if you really want to make a change, why dont you just do something who will benefit all gender like charities... and besides sometimes kayo pa ang rude and mayabang... Trying hard to prove something :( like mabangga mo lang parang bibigwasan ka na.. not saying al though
We respect the LGBTQIA Community.... but please din naman respect STRAIGHT Community.. 😊 Hindi kelangan nang batas for equality na sinasabi natin... RESPETO nang bawat isa ang kailangan para EQUALITY ay ma -achieve! FYi hindi lang ang LGBTQIA+ ang may mga karapatang ipinaglalaban sa mundong ito.. STRAIGHT men and women have rights also!
I like Vice pero medyo irrational yung comment nya about the issue making him sound like delulu.
ReplyDeleteTrue. And i dont even likw sen sotto pero for me, tama sya this time
DeleteTrue! Poor comprehension Kumbaga
Delete@1:01--->"MAKING HIM" only shows that VICE is still a "he", "lalake", at may "tt", etc. na certified male creation of Someone up there na hindi puedeng ma-alter from within. Truth hurts...btw, i'm his avid fan from overseas. I❤Vice!
DeleteUnless during the process of gender change from man parts to woman parts a vagina and womb can be grown, a man who underwent sex change shall remain that and not a woman. Let's not muddle the issue. I have always found Tito Sotto offensive and tackless but in this particular case he is right.
DeleteMe too. Tho i super love vice
DeleteYes, Vice seemed to have not hit the target. Parang he/she's trying to make a point but can't get to it.
DeleteVice identifies naman as gay, at sinasabi naman nya madalas na lalaki sya 2:29. Love ko rin sya kasi relate ako sa mga kuwentong Tondo nya, pero iba rin ang dating sa akin ng post nya, ang butthurt lang. Sa dami ng di agree sa sinabi nya, nag-off tuloy sya ng comments sa ig nya.
DeleteAgree. Di ko gusto si Tito pero sa isyu nato dito lang ako umagree sa kanya
DeleteNope, it means they are directly saying it to your face!!!
ReplyDeleteNope. Lol
DeleteArgumentum ad hominem @1:01 magbasa ka...
DeleteNope! Just no!
DeleteI don't think so.
DeleteMag-survey muna kayong mga bakla sa mga business establishment owners kung willing silang magdagdag at gastusan ang construction ng extra CRs.
Deletetama na
ReplyDeleteFor this particular matter (only).. Support ko si Tito Sen!
ReplyDeleteako din. for once i want vice to shut up
DeleteYes I think Vice is using his influence to make people support the idea of SOGIE bill being a law created for equality when what they want clearly is contrary to equality since they transgress rights of others sexes (original sexes) just to impose their wishes.
DeleteThis feels like karma biting me. I never thought I’d live to see the day that I will agree with this senator. Just on this, I agree with Senator Sotto
DeleteIf tito sen will protect my rights and privacy as a straight person, he has my vote!
DeleteAs a woman that has many failed attempts of conceiving, slightly offended ako na ikumpara ni VG sa mga trans. Why? We have ovaries and trans doesn’t have. It’s as if sinasabi nya na same ang reproductive organ ng mga hirap mag conceive sa mga trans.
ReplyDeleteHe’s a public figure, I hope he’ll think 1000x before voicing out his opinion lalo na kung medyo selfish ang reasoning nya.
that's not what Vice meant read it agaim thoroughly
Delete1:05 sabi ni Vice, ang pagiging babae ay d lang nasusukat if nakaka-anak ka or hindi.Marami pa sya sinabi. Point nya is women are more than that.
DeleteGusto lang i-level ni VG ang mga trans sa mga babae kaya ginugulo niya argumento. Ano para makakuha ng simpatya galing sa mga tunay na babae?
Delete1:41 1:33 Vice actually compared trans sa mga babae na baog (sorry 1:05) so dapat daw hindi lang yung pagiging kaya magka anak ang batayan ng pagiging babae. Eh pero may matres ang babae baog man o hindi so mali galaga ikumpara dun or even mention yun
DeleteTinuwist kasi ni vice ang statemwnt ni senator sotto eh.
DeleteKahit alam nmn nating lahat na ang babae ay babae ke magbuntis pa o hindi.
I am a woman and I respect transgenders RIGHTS so I expect transgenders to do the same "RESPECT WOMEN'S RIGHTS"
DeleteDapat kasi sinabi nalang na parehas tayong mga human being. Ang trans e gawa nalang ng tao ang babae e pinanganak na babae. Kaya malaki talaga kaibahan.
DeleteI hope you'd think twice.Vice is not a woman,she is a trans,she is making it appear that she is part of Womankind.No,big difference.Trans are trans,women are women.
DeleteKunwari kasi babae siya e na affecfed siya sa problema ng babae.Wag sana siyang ganun.
Delete1:33 and 1:41 if you are not a woman and you are a trans,stop making adhominem attacks na as if ovaries are your thing.Vice don't have that.Hes a trans.Trans are Trans,Women are Women!
DeleteAng babae may matres functioning or hindi babae pa din and that is something that Trans will never have as simple as that. Vice is simply diverting the issue by making it appear that Sen Sotto meant something offensive to women who cant or chose not to have a child
Deletei see Vice's concern more personal,to embarass or make Tito Sen look bad. He can stand up for the Sogie bill without maligning others, nagdeactivate pa ng comment section after madaming babae magreact sa sa maling intindi niya sa sinabi ng isa.
ReplyDeleteYan ginagawang witch hunt ng mga yan lahat ng commenters regarding Sogie.Binabastos nila lahat na may taliwas na paniniwala.When it comes down to numbers,mas marami po kami,majingay lang itong trans.Do not make us hate you.Magkakagulo talaga ang Pinas pag pinilit nyo yang gusto niyo.
DeleteChos!
ReplyDeleteAng showbiz talaga neto. Agree ako sayo about SOGIE Bill but please tama na! Pa lol kapa ang dami pang problema ng bansa.
Technically, definition of a woman speaks for itself.
ReplyDeleteTechnically, man AND woman
While SOGIE is a sensitive and complicated issue, hope the community will learn to somehow respect the rights of the rest too. It's highly impossible for establishments, malls and other public places to accommodate having at least 7 restrooms for the SOGIE community alone, right?
Stick to the rules of the law as long as everyone is not tampering and abusing such. RESPECT for the straight men and women too if they have proper and respectful opinions to share.
Straight men and women can't always be the ones to blame for each single act of "harassment" against the SOGIE community. Konting salita lang, "harassment" agad. Wag naman sana.
Agree to this!
DeleteI agree also, totally!
DeleteTama!
DeleteGurl 1:11, read SOGIE. It's not just for LGBTQIA+, but for all. Yan ang prblema sa inyong kuda ng kuda. Hindi pa nababasa ang buong nilalaman ng bill, comment na ng comment. SOGIE is not a community. LGBTQIA+ is.
DeleteSexual Orientation and Gender Identity and Expression Equality Bill or Anti-Discrimination Bill. Gahd this people.
Correct! Exactly.There are existing laws that.would protect all type of genders under the constitution.Do not complicate things to accomodate a small number of people.
DeleteHindi lang naman po about restrooms ang SOGIE. Nahighlight lang yun dahil sa nangyari kay Daez. Some important inclusions in SOGIE is:
DeleteHindi ka pwedeng matanggal sa trabaho/hindi i-hire dahil lang LGBTQ ka
Hindi ka pwedeng matanggal sa school dahil lang LGBTQ ka
Hindi ka pwedeng ideny ng medical service dahil lang LGBTQ ka
Hindi pwedeng magpublish ang media ng bagay na makakasira sa image at pananaw sa LGBTQ (ex: kapag gay, automatic manyak)
Hindi ba natin yun pwedeng ibigay sa mga LGBTQ? Hindi natin naappreciate yan kasi naeenjoy natin yang rights na yan. I remember yung ex boss ko, hindi sya naghihire ng gay and lesbian. Outright nyang sinabi yun sakin.
8:19 you read! There is an impunity clause wherein people get jailed for not letting the trans in CR,for laughing for not hiring the lgbtq,arent these things existing in the present constitution? There is no need for a separate law for lgbtqia.Or to label such as Sogie. The only difference is the same sex marriage part.
Delete8:19, there are existing laws that protect EVERYONE from discrimination. The Constitution provides for the basic human rights that cover ALL. The Labor Code has anti-discrimination rules that cover ALL. Basically, Section 5 of the bill is covered, so why is there a need for this SOGIE bill?
DeleteYou are deluding people when you say the SOGIE bill is for all. Kaya nga SEXUAL ORIENTATION and GENDER IDENTITY and EXPRESSION ang tawag dun, ibig sabihin this is for those who have sexual PREFERENCE or CHOICE which is different from what they were born with, in short para sa LGBTQ.
Wag masyadong magmagaling at pabibo dahil madami din ang nagbasa ng bill.
@1:25pm super agree,ang daming loopholes ng sogie bill
Delete@11:25 ang post at push mo ay the good side para magsympathize sa inyo ang people sa gusto nyo,pero hindi mo siunulat ang mga loopholes at disadvanges para sa mga nakakarami
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DeleteHindi lang naman pagiging LGbT ang dahilan kung bakit ka made deny sa trabaho. Pwedeng dahil di ka talaga qualified. If this law passes, pag hindi kayo na hire because of other reasons, you will make it appear na dahil yun sa pagiging LGBT
11:35 bakit hindi nyo dinemanda ang ex boss ninyo kung tingin ninyo na hindi ka hinire dahil sa LGBTQIA ka? o kaya pina tulfo? meron naman anti discrimination law na existing.
Delete8:19 anti discrimination nino? Napaka undefined ng gender expression so kung ano ang nararamdaman kong gender today,pwede akong mag iba bukas,
Delete2:25 ditto. Ang daming sinasagasaan ng bill na ito. It's as if they haven't read other laws. Concern ko din ang provision for being denied medical services. Hello, if sa private hospital na dine deny ka, one of the biggest reason is that baka ang injury mo came from crime. Most hospitals want you to get to a medico legal first before they attend to you. Kaya sila maarte minsan mag admit ng patients. So if ang isang LGBT+ ay na refuse ng medical attention pero di niya alam na ito ang rason, baka isipin niyang harrassment agad. So punishment na agad? Hay.
DeleteBut i guess it is up to the one who will hire kung ayaw niya lgbtq. Sila naman kasi makakasama d ba? Kanya kanya lang yan. Kung ayaw ka sa isang kumpanya, eh d hanap ka ng tatanggap sa iyo. Kahit naman straight, pag na antipatikahan sa iyo, hindi ka rin iha hire. Masyado pa kasing hasale kung feeling ng lgbtq na hindi sila na hire dahil sa sexual preference nila. Malay mo na hindi talaga sila qualified or may iba pang reasons.
DeleteFan ako ni Vice dati pero lost valdez talaga siya sa debate na to
ReplyDeleteDahil dito iboboto ko yang si Sotto at ilalaglag ko si Hontiveros and Geraldine Roman sa mga susunod na eleksyon.Ekis sila sa akin.
DeleteSame 1028
DeleteTingin siguro ni VG magagalit ang mga babae kay Tito Sen sa mga salitang ginamit nya. Pero naku, tama naman si Tito Sen dun. I agree witg him this time. Kaya ba pwede lang tigilan nyo na yan marami pang mas importanteng problema na kailangan solusyunan.
ReplyDeleteThat’s precisely his goal when he made that post para kunin simpatya ng mga babae fortunately madaming matatalinong babae ang di nya mabibilog.
DeleteMasyado naging pabibo si Vice dito pero ligwak arguments nya
ReplyDeleteVery true! Kc naman palpak yung sagot mo meme 🤣 Intindihing mabuti, so you can come up with a better and stronger stand and argument on the issue.
ReplyDeleteThe old man is outdated and backward.
ReplyDeleteIm absoultely fine with outdated and backward old man ,as long as he stands for what is right,morale and lawful.
DeleteNot backward but his points are valid.
DeleteNope, he is just stating the FACTS.
DeleteWow. Hahaha
DeleteMas ok na yang outdated ang backward old man kaysa pagbigyan ang mga entitled na minority ng ating lipunan.
DeleteHe’s just saying XX is female and XY is male
DeleteSEN TITO IS JUST STATING THE TRUTH
DeleteYOU CAN NOT CHANGE YOUR DNA
Saying the truth will never be outdated. Being a transgender doesn’t mean it is the “in” thing these days. Nope.
DeleteIt’s the right of the real women he is referring to which is normal and rational thinking.
DeleteHe is not outdated he’s simply stating a fact. They can call themselves names gays, transgender, transwoman etc etc but they can never be a biological woman cause they never were to begin with.
DeleteWed rather have his backwardness than progressive kuno but not appropriate for this society.Go and migrate in Europe or Canada if you are unhappy with our existing laws here.
DeleteTruce. Tama naman arguments nu Vice. Si Tito Sotto ang naglatag ng points, sinagot lang ni Vice punto por punto.
DeleteAng mga bakla talaga, imbes na nagbuklod buklod, porke hindi apektado sa issue ng mga kapatid nating Trans, walang empathy. Ang kikitid ng utak.
One word Vice - chromosomes ;)
ReplyDeleteYeah even under the microscope,he is not a woman.No DNA
DeleteIgnorante kasi si tanda.
ReplyDeleteAnong ignorante? Eh totoo naman, xx & xy chromosomes lang ang meron kahit ilang identities pa ang i-imbento ng mga tao.
DeleteIkaw ang ignorante.
Delete1:36 go back to school and learn your chromosomes and DNA
DeletePanong naging ignorante 1:36am? Please convince me, ano ang definition mo ng male and female? Pakimention mo na din kung ano meron sa babae na wala sa trans!
DeleteSino ba ang ignorante hindi ba dapat yung mga taong di aware sa human anatomy ng babae at lalake
DeleteIf you define ignorance from the point of view of trans, we will have bigger problems. Don't twist reality.
DeleteIf tingin nyo ignorant kami, imbis na puro lait ang ibaato nyo sa amin, why not present a valid argument? Sobrang dami ko nang binasang comments ng pro sogie, and not even one of them were able to present a strong case. Inuunahan nyo kasi agad ng galit at insulto against the anti sogie peeps, kaya hindi na kayo nakakapagdefend ng maayos.
DeleteAno bang tawag dyan sa post mo Tito diba trolling din yan. Hypocrite.
ReplyDeleteMas hypocrite ang nagpapanggap na babae. Hindi kayo kailanman magiging babae pagbali-baligtarin niyo man ang mundo.
DeleteAng sakit naman nun 2:08 grabe na talaga ngayon mga tao. :(
DeleteTruth hurts sis @7:01 and i’m gay myself kaya wag ng ipilit pa teh di mo ikagagaganda yan 💁♀️💁♀️
Delete7:01 hindi masakit yung sinabi ni 2:08... that’s the TRUTH. Plain and simple. 🤷🏻♀️
Delete7:01 wag tayong balat sibuyas sa ilang issues.
DeleteMashare ko lang... sa medical field may mga parameters na iba yun normal value ng male sa female. Sa mga trans, kahit magpasexual reassignment kayo ang susundin pa rin na normal value sa dugo nyo ay yung normal value ng original gender nyo para magamot kayo accordingly. I don’t like Tito Sotto pero I agree with him na hindi kailanman magiging babae ang trans. Unless makaimbento ng way na mabago ang genes/chromosomes, males will always be males and females will always be females.
ReplyDelete1:57, pwede kayong kasuhan niyan under the SOGIE bill kasi discrimination yan. GUSTO nila i-consider silang BABAE and therefore dapat female values ang gamitin niyo. You cannot insist on what is medically correct just like you can’t differentiate a female from a male based on physiological composition.
DeleteIn the US napag alaman based on medical research that there is such a thing as GENDER Dysporia.Yung pinanganak na may biological mismatch.Lalaki pero ang kalooban babae etc. Na karamihan sa trans ay ganito. May mga psychiatrust na humahandle sa ganitong kaso.
Delete1058 then all the more reason why that bill should not be made into law.
Delete1:48, and that is why I am against that bill. Unnecessary na, andami pang loopholes.
Delete- 10:58
how i wish the GREAT Miriam Defensor Santiago is still alive to put this senator in his place! She's the first one to submit a version of the sogie bill 2 decades ago sayang tita miriam. you are definitely missed
ReplyDeleteWith how the trans community is acting these days, i don't think she'll still favor the sogie bill.
Deletewhy? how are they acting na ba? may krimen? ilang cases? or ung ke gretchen lng saka ung napanood mo sa fb?
DeleteSogie bill decades ago cannot define lgbtqia plus.There are new variations now.It is passe.Hindi yan papasa sa kultura ng Pilipinas.
DeleteIt is an obsolete bill even the definition,panahon ni Miriam bakla at tomboy pa lang.
DeleteThis society is not Europe,this is not Canada and not US. Kung sa US nga may mga estado na hindi man lang pumasa ang Sogie bill. First world countries have the ability to support the lgbtqia community by providing psychologists,medical assistance,financial assistance under the Sogie bill.Hindi naghihirap o dukha ang mga tao.
DeleteWe will stand by Sotto on this one.Ilalaglag namin sila Hontiveros at Geraldine sa susunod na eleksyon.Ekis kayo sa amin.
Delete2:12 jusko naman teh, namamahinga na yung tao idadamay mo pa sa issue, all the more reason na hindi talaga papasa yan even kahit nung buhay pa siya, wag ng ipilit acheng!
DeleteHuwag pakasiguro. Objective magisip si MDS.
Delete319 seryoso ka? Wala kang ibang alam na incident? Yung totoo
Delete319 mag google at mag research ha bago makipagtalo.Lagyan ng laman ang argument.
DeleteActually, masyado kasi pabor ang society natin sa mga babae, kaya gusto yun makuha ng mga trans. If you think about it consequences ito ng mga choices women made, hindi nila fault pero part of the consequences. Example kung ung mga babae tinanggap na ang subjective ang beauty at walang standard, edi sana walang cosmetic industry, edi sana walang way para ang mga trans maganyong babae. Ung mga retoke retoke, nauso yan sa babae ngayun the same technique and surgeons ang nagoopera sa trans. Hindi kasalanan ng mga babae bakit may trans, pero kaya nagkatrans kasi consequence yan ng mga choices ng mga babae, gets nyo ba?
ReplyDeleteSinisi mo pa ang mga babae kaya may trans. Maski kailanman di yan sila magiging babae pagbalibaliktarin man ang mundo.
DeleteHuh? What are you saying?
DeleteKaya may trans kasi gusto nila, choice nila. Pinagsasabi mo? I-blame pa sa mga babae. Sobrang labo ng logic mo. Jusko. 🙄
DeleteWhat? So ngayon kasalanan pa ng babae na nagkaron ng trans? Choice ng babae mag undergo ng cosmetic enhancements same way na choice din ng mga lalake mag anyong babae. So wala palang sariling pagiisip ang mga trans at kung ano makita yun ang gagawin nila oh come on
Deleteang trans ay merong medical condition na tinatawag na gender dysporia. May mga trans, bata pa lang sila ay trans na.
DeleteKalma lang, may point naman sya na hindi kasi exclusive for women ang mga makeup at cosmetic industry, kung naging exclusive for women yung beauty industry malamang walang trans ngayon.
DeleteAs much as I hate Tito Sotto, gotta admit that he's right this time. The logic is simple and yet Vice tried to take it out of context and make it up to something that he thinks will turn Women against Sotto, he greatly miscalculated the intellect of Women if he thinks he can make us hate Sotto and turn everyone proSOGIE. Vice, we are not siding with Sotto on a personal level or him per se, we are siding with what he is saying and what he is fighting for because that's what makes sense. So whatever attack you have on him wont work because we already know that he isnt a saint. We can hate him and at the same time agree with him if what he's saying makes sense because Women are THAT open minded.
ReplyDelete+1M 🙌🙌
DeleteSO ON POINT. Nairita pa nga ako kay vice dahil napa-agree ako kay sotto
DeleteTrue!
DeleteHe might be old and backward but he is correct.
ReplyDeleteHahahahaha...that’s insane. Backward is now considered right?
DeleteSorry meme vice, madami pa ring ignorante sa mundo. We are not accepted, but merely tolerated. Wag na nating ipilit. Hindi pa sila handa. Dun na lang tayo mag-cr sa mga bahay natin.
ReplyDeleteI am an LGBT member. The day I outed as gay and accepted is already A HUGE thing. So, ano ignorante dun? Sabihin mo madami sating LGBT members e demanding at isa ka dun 2:40. I am hapoy my family has accepted me for who I am. Growing up with a brusko tatay at kuya had been my challenge but I managed to overcome that. So, wag mo isama ang ibang members ng LGBT 2:40am. You are so wrong!
DeleteYou are accepted, we accept all of you, the lesbian, the gays, the trans and the other different letters. Unfortunately, you are the one who cannot accept yourselves parang diring diri kayo na ang classification sainyo ay trans, part of accepting who you are is recognising the fact that you are previously "your born reproductive organ" and wants to change as the opposite gender. Trans are different to Natural Born Women and Men, same as to Men are different to Women. And that's the natural law, we are all unique and that's okay. Kayo and may issue na ipinipilit niyong pareho ang magkakaiba
DeleteKaya kayo di nirerespeto. Sabihan bang ignorante ang hindi agree sa opinion niyo. Hindi equality hanap niyo kundi special treatment.
DeleteWag paawa ok?
DeleteJust because d kayo mapagbigyan sa gusto nyo ibig sabihin ignorante na kmi. LGBT are very much accepted now a days. Pero ilagay dn po ninyo sa lugar ang mga demands ninyo. Let us protect and understand each other's right.d dahil hindi nasunod ang gusto nyo, dinidiscriminate na agad kayo. Hwag masyadong pa victim.
Deleteoo nga, ang dami pa ring ignorante, at mga nagbubulag-bulagan. di nila alam ang tunay na kahulugan ng pagiging lalaki at babae. may mga taong di matanggap ang mga sarili nila, pero may gana pang ipagpilitan na tanggapin sila ng iba.
Delete2:40, wala naman nagsabi na hindi kayo pwede gumamit ng public CR di ba? You simply WANT to defy rules and gusto niyo pagbigyan kayo.
DeleteGood! Sa bahay kana lang mag cr. Hahahahha wala pang pila diva
Delete2:40 ang drama mo. tapos pag di ka nasunod, magtatawag ka na kesyo ignorante ang mga di agree. kaya daming asar sa trans ngayon
Delete2:40 sorry teh,Welcome to the real world.There is no such thing as equality in anything.There will always be class struggle.Mahirap vs Mayaman,Maputi vs Maitim.Lalaki vs Babae.Unless sa ibang planeta ka nakatira doon mo mahahanap ang equality.
Delete240 and 815, It's you who are ignorant. Don't call us IGNORANTE just because we don't agree with your views. No matter what you say or do to your body, you will never be real women. Wait millions of years for evolution to catch up, maybe then gender can be changed on a whim. But for now, accept what is.
DeleteIgnorante? Not even your fellow trans think the way some of you think. We are not ignorant. You are just being delusional into thinking that women and trans are the same. Again, no amount of surgery can turn man into woman. And your feelings of being a woman do not validate or make you one. You are openly able to express yourselves in this predominantly Catholic country and you should be grateful for that. Acceptance starts when you acknowledge your real dna and biological characteristics as a man and not insist on stomping women’s right.
Delete2:04, sorry for offending you. sarcasm got the better of me. i'm female, by the way. - 8:15
DeleteSorry Vice . 1 point si Tito Sen in this particular matter.
ReplyDeleteTotally agree with Sen Sotto. He is just stating a Fact. Which in reality is very true. Kahit baliktarin pa ang mundo. Ang lalaki ay lalaki padin at ang babae ay babae padin. Vice on the other hand is using his influence to speak out on behalf of the lgbtq+ but his opinion is out of the context. If iintindihin mo yung sinabi ni Sen Sotto walang mali sa sinabi niya but Vice took if personally and attacked him making Sen Sotto the bad person "just because" he stated a fact. I'm really a fan of Vice and watches Showtime everyday but sometimes he give opinions in a philosophical way and doesnt really understands the situation before speaking out.
ReplyDeleteSometimes gays are overstepping their boundaries. You have rights I get that but respect women rights too. Hindi talaga tayo magiging equal kahit baligbaligtarin mo pa ang mundo.
ReplyDeleteIt all boils down to attitude. Vice is encouraging gays not to fight for their rights but to be so demanding and entitled. Bakit yung ibang gays they can act with class and finesse; and they don't insist on using female toilets. Pang kalye kasi ugali ng iba
DeleteNot only overstepping; they are feeling so entitled and demanding.
DeleteSorry vice. Not today. Not ever. Invalid argument.
ReplyDelete2:29 I soo agree with you.
ReplyDeleteThis time Sen Sotto may sense👍
ReplyDeleteVG nonsense! Nasobrahan sa galing naging pabibo ang dating👎🏽
Actually makuda lang siya pero hindi matalino.
DeleteAgree. Yung tipong kapag matalino kang tao, hindi mo papakinggan ang kuda niya kasi walang sense most of the time.
DeleteYeah palaging adhominem at nakakapanlait ng kapwa.
DeleteContextually, tama si Sotto. “If you are a man”. Paano naman nasama ang babae , Vice. Comprehension fail
ReplyDeleteVice's post was a lost cause and it was unnecessary. I think ang aim nya sa post nya is to have people pit vs Tito Sotto (who is not generally well liked) but apparently it backfired on him. Kahit pag balik baliktarin ang mundo, magka anak man ang babae o hindi, the fact na may ovary sila at uterus eh babae silang maituturing. Si Vice kunwari pang itinataas ang bandila ng kababaihan when gusto nya lang maiangat ang mga trans sa same level ng babae which will never happen. Until trans can have ovaries and uterus, mga lalaki pa rin kayo.
ReplyDeletetama
DeleteYes! I agree with everything you said.
DeleteSorry Vice. Tito Sotto is right this time. Your argument is incomprehensible.
ReplyDeleteWalang personalan trabaho lang, trabaho po ng senators isipin ang proposal SOGIE which is in the end putting women in danger of possible fake trans trying to get into female toilets to commit crimes. Ano kaya nyo ipaglaban once may mapahamak na tootong babae? Hindi diba ,so wag na ipilit ang mali is Mali . There no point of stirring up women’s anger towards the senator. We know our rights as natural born females.
ReplyDeleteThe comments here are shocking. Aral aral tayo ng SOGIE mga ka-FP para naman maliwanagan kayo kung bakit bigoted yung sinasabi ni Tito Sen niyo.
ReplyDeleteAral na aral po kami.Hindi namin ito gusto dahil may kasamang impunity o kulong sa mga straight na tao.Halimnawa may mga natawa,ikukulong yan pati yung janitress na hindi pinapasok si Gretchen sa CR ng babae,ay makukulong under this sogie.Wag ganun.
DeleteNaku aral na aral kami,that is why we are against it.The CR incident is just one factor in SOGIE,the only difference is makukulong ang janitress sa ginawa niya.So No to Sogie.
DeleteSus ito pa ang isang all-knowing. Porke’t hindi agree sa kanila i-assum na hindi na nagbasa. Basahin mo din ang Labor Code & Constitution para mahimasmasan ka at malaman mo na ang kinocover ng bill ay nandun na. Yang mga discriminatory practices na sinasabi sa Section 5 ng bill covered na. Wag masyadong pa-importante na kailangan pa ng separate na bill. 🙄
Delete10:08 teh iuwi mo yang sogie kung san ka mang bansa ka,dyan yan hindi dito.Pilipinas po ito.Walang nakakaintindi sa depinisyon mo.Wala ding support system na makukuha dahil hindi naman mayaman na bansa ito.
DeleteI agree with Tito Sen. He may have a lot of questionable statements before, but his stand regarding this issue is clear as day. By the way, let me enumerate some of the LGBTQs arguments that I found quizzical:
ReplyDelete1) You are homophobic because you can’t accept that transwomen are women?
If transwomen really thinks that they are women, wouldn’t that make us heterophobic? and if transwomen can’t accept that they are anything other than being a real woman, wouldn’t that make them homophobic as well?
2) Having ovaries and a womb is not the only essence of being a real woman:
In these present times, yes, I agree that those are not the only factors that makes a woman a woman, but they are major factors of being a woman. Even women who had it removed had ovaries and a womb when they were born. Heck, even hermaphrodites had a womb when they were born. Meaning that all women are built by God with the capacity to bear a child and nothing is more sacred than having that gift. How is the human race going to exist without a woman’s womb? Even your mom has a womb, that is why you are existing here on earth, and fighting for your rights right now. Please don’t underestimate the power of the womb and everything it stands for, because that would
mean underestimating all mothers who sacrificed everything for their child just by giving birth.
Also, you trans are correct on the premise that having our wombs and ovaries removed doesn’t make us any less of a woman. But isn’t it also of the same premise that having your man parts removed doesn’t make you any less of a man?
"But isn’t it also of the same premise that having your man parts removed doesn’t make you any less of a man?"
DeleteDamn, great argument.
In other words, you do not understand what identity is. Pinahaba mu pa.
Delete159 you're the one who doesn't understand. Where's your valid argument anyway?
DeletePlease lng vice wag isama ang mga babae s issue.. i personally respect the lgbt people, but then, ncocompromise na ang security ng mga babae specially ng mga bata in this issue.. so please just shut up... go tito sen...
ReplyDeleteHello! Men will never be women naman talaga!
ReplyDeleteTito Sotto had made ridiculous remarks in the past but he’s so right this time! Although being able to bear a child may not be every woman’s choice or destiny, still, she was designed to carry life in her womb. That can never happen to any man!
Pak!
DeleteThat’s your own discrimination bias and ignorance, and not based on facts. Once transformed with the use of hormones and surgery, their physical appearance match their psychological makeup. They are now transformed to be their real selves. Gets mo.
DeleteDelusional ka if you really think that's true.
DeleteStop making your own reality 2:34. You don't transform entirely because the moment you stopped taking in hormones, you switch back to looking like a man.
Delete2:34, unless you can grow reproductive female organs inside your body, then you will never be a real woman.
Delete2:34, wow. so magkakamatris ka pag nagpasurgery ka at naghormones? i feel so ignorant now! e di finish na pala ung laban. magiging babae ka naman na pala talaga kasi pwede ka na installan ng matris. pero wait, pag nagkasakit ka at bawal na maghormones dahil sa medications, pano na? e di balik lalaki na uli itsura mo? *insert sarcasm here*
Delete2:34 tiga Pilipinas ka ba? Sa buong population ng trans,ilan lang ang can afford to have surgery? To have hormone injections.Sa Canada,libre ng gobyerno ang gender reassignment surgery.Pilipinas po ito.Unahin pa yan kesa kumakalam na sikmura! Wag mo paganahin yan dito.
DeleteRight on Senator! Bigyan ng leksyon ang nag dudunung dunungan, lata naman.
ReplyDeleteCorrect.Mga makukuda pero pag sila nakaka offend,bawal mag reklamo.
DeleteHmmm...so you want the laws of this country to be forever backward, ignorant and unequal? Kaloka ka.
Delete228 keep on insulting people just because you don't have a valid argument
Delete2:28 Galit na galit kayo pag hinuhugahan kayo pero kayo din mismo, hinuhusgahan niyo ang tao dahil lang hindi siya pabor sa ka-OA-yan ng iba sa inyo at gumagawa ng issue.
DeleteIf existing laws in the Philippines cannot protect you or is not enough to protect your Rights as humans,kindly do yourself a favor and migrate to Canada and Europe where you can find all the freedoms you want.2:28 umalis!
DeleteSogie did not pass most of the US States.Binlock po yan.
ReplyDeleteWhat is your point? What do we care about the US laws? That’s their battle, we have ours in this country.
DeleteIf you didn't get what she meant then it's pointless na having a discussion with you
Deletewait lang, from most comments I've read, you are claiming na ang backward ng Pinas kasi sa ibang bansa, pinasa etong sogie, na sa western country, eto ang IN. tapos ngayon, biglang it doesn't matter na di to pinasa sa US? guys, really good at twisting arguments as long as it favors you huh?
Delete2:26 so whats your battle.When Sogie in itself did not ome from the Philippines.Kaya nga hindi maintindihan ng Pilipino.Ano ang intersexual,ano ang asexual? Ano ang binary? Since when did these definitions fit in the Philippine society?
Delete622 true yan! Nabasa mo pa yung ibang comments nila dito? Sa sobrang wala na silang mahalughog sa baul nilag na valid arguments, ngayon pinaglalaban nila na ang chromosome daw ay natatamper at nababago na din with science! Pati science, eh tinitwist nila towards their favor kaloka
DeleteNo comment on the SOGIE Bill pero natawa ako sa statement ni Sotto...like lol as if hindi siya guilty sa pinagsasabi niya..hypocrite
ReplyDeleteTrans are trans. Gays are gay. Women are women. We're all different, yet we're all humans and we should all be equal in the eyes of the law. Our gender orientation/expression shouldn't define our humanity and degrade our lives to live
ReplyDeleteAs Human beings we are all being protected by the Current laws.Wag tayo mag create ng mga away at gulo between genders.
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Lol oo
DeleteThis is why I don’t agree when the beauty queen apologized for saying trans should not join Miss Universe. They may look female, but their chromosomes and biological make up disqualifies them from joining. They should have their own beauty pageant. I have a lot of gay and lesbian friends, and I accept and respect them but they have to respect others and their opinions too.
ReplyDeleteIf they have transformed to being female then they are female. Chromosomes can be tempered with hormones, as in male or female hormones. Biological make up is only secondary to the psychological make up. You can change the biological makeup with hormones and cosmetic surgery, you can’t change the mental or psychological makeup of a person. Know what you are saying, please.
Deletebalik kang science class 2:25. See that is the reason you don't get it, you make your own reality pati science twisted nyo. Hoemones never change dna chromosomes fyi
DeleteBack at you 2:25. Simple lang, you can’t take out the “Y” out of your chromosomes coz you’re born with that. No amount of hormones can change that.
Delete2:25 Hoax. Tempered means you are medicating to control what's natural. Your XY will never ever become XX. Know your BASIC SCIENCE.
DeleteShe knows and you are still male just accept it
DeleteIn line with your comment 12:08am, please educate me, akala ko hindi pwede sumali sa mga beauty pageants for women like miss u, miss world, bbp etc. pag nagundergo ka ng enhancements like sa breast or nose etc? Allowed ba?
DeleteExcuse me 2:25 but no amount of surgery, hormone injections or anything else will change someone's DNA from a man's to a woman's (or vice versa). And there is no current (or probably future) technology can replace a chromosome in all of our trillions of cells. Know what you are saying, please.
DeleteIt is called Gender Dysphoria.Please research.Now sa ibang bansa,binibigyan ng psychiatrist,counselling etc interventions before you can undergo the surgeryor if you will be allowed to transform.
Delete947 FYI, trans women can join the Miss Universe pageant. Trump allowed it when he was the owner of MUO. I lost respect for this pageant when they allowed the trans to join. Just imagine, REAL women who are single, but have given birth are NOT allowed. Real women who have been divorced are NOT allowed regardless if they've given birth or not.
Delete4:01 kaya naman nila ginawa yun not because of equality but because they would lose half of their viewership, which are composed of LGbTs, if hindi nila inallow ang trans. Hindi na kasi pinapansin ang Miss Universe in most countries. Tama ka sa sinabi mo, ang true equality in miss universe ay kung pinasali din nila ang single moms, annulled or divorced females, or plus sized females (US size 12 and up). Mga Miss pa din naman sila and inborn females pa, and yet, they are banned from joining.
DeleteYan kasi ang epekto ng Sogie,trans should be allowed to join female pageants,female CR,female sports teams.
DeleteWell, what do you expect. He is old, ignorant and backward with a third world mentality. He is hopeless.
ReplyDeleteStating facts is not hopeless. You are hopeless, demanding trans.
DeleteI'd rather have a third world mentality than be soo open and embracing of western cultures that would destroy my values.
DeletePlease trans people.. dont make the world too complicated.. we have enough problems na.. if you really want to make a change, why dont you just do something who will benefit all gender like charities... and besides sometimes kayo pa ang rude and mayabang... Trying hard to prove something :( like mabangga mo lang parang bibigwasan ka na.. not saying al though
ReplyDeleteWe respect the LGBTQIA Community.... but please din naman respect
ReplyDeleteSTRAIGHT Community.. 😊
Hindi kelangan nang batas for equality na sinasabi natin... RESPETO nang bawat isa ang kailangan para EQUALITY ay ma -achieve!
FYi hindi lang ang LGBTQIA+ ang may mga karapatang ipinaglalaban sa mundong ito.. STRAIGHT men and women have rights also!
Thank you tito sotto for speaking up for the voiceless women which the women with greater influence failed to do.
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