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Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Poll: Is Tintin Bersola Guilty of the Criticisms for her Gay article?


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Parenting advocate Tintin Bersola-Babao's article titled, "Being Gay" had stirred negative and violent reactions from netizens, most notably from the huge gay community. The article which came out yesterday on The Philippine Star was labeled as hypocrite, insensitive, baseless, damaging, homophobic, irresponsible. Getting the heat from all the backlash and flak, Ms. Babao was forced to issue a public apology via twitter to soften the blow to those she may have offended. She also expressed the same apology in behalf of her resource person, psychologist Dr. Camille Garcia, who was similarly bashed for her views.

What could have triggered such uproar? Here is the controversial article in question - printed in its entirety. Please read carefully, and let us know what you think.

Being Gay

In the daily morning show, Good Morning Club, which I co-host daily on TV5, we recently discussed an interesting topic: What should a parent do if the child shows early signs of being gay?

It was a sensitive topic handled with care. My co-hosts Edu Manzano, Amy Perez, Chiqui Roa-Puno and I shared the same view: That gayness is not a plague. That if one of our sons turns out to be gay, we were unanimous in saying that “We shall accept and love our sons just the same, just as much.”

For this article, I sought the expertise of family counselor and Trio Tagapayo of Amy’s Face to Face, noted psychologist Dr. Camille Garcia, who answered the frequently asked questions (FAQs).

What are the early signs? I’ve read that when a two- or three-year-old plays with girl’s toys, that doesn’t necessarily mean he is gay since that is just the “curiosity phase.” Is this true? At what age will the signs of true “gayness” come out?

Dr. Camille: “Others may say that doing something effeminate is already a sign of gayness like playing with female toys, being effeminate in some ways, etc. Remember the child, at this age, does not know the girl-boy gender yet. It’s up to the parents to make the child be aware of his/her gender: 'Ikaw ay babae, siya ay lalaki.’

“True gayness comes out at pubertal stage. (It is when the child desires or has a crush on the same sex.) What is wrong with some parents is encouraging the behavior. It’s like when a parent says, 'Kung ano ang binigay sa amin ng Diyos tatanggapin namin.’

“Remember ang binigay ng Diyos na anak is a girl or boy. A six-year-old can already identify his/her gender. Good parenting structures the right role of a person.

“What creates the reinforcement of the said behavior is when parents allow the thinking (e.g., ‘Sige anak, ok naman na maging bakla ka, tatanggapin ka namin.’)”

Should parents be alarmed and arrest the situation? Or encourage it?

Dr. Camille: “Arrest the situation, ’yun ang tama. But most parents encourage the situation. Tatanggapin agad. Let’s be moral in making the child understand the situation, di ba yun ang dapat. We tell our child, ‘Anak, mali ito.’”

How should the parents address this? Some parents resort to threat and extreme military-style punishment. Some parents go to great lengths to explain to the child the consequences of being gay, so that the child can think, then make a choice.

Dr. Camille: “Threat and punishment encourage the child more to do things wrongly, because you are shutting off the situation. Make sure you discuss with your child openly. ‘Alam mo anak, hindi namin gusto yung ginugusto mo.’

“Explain that he is a boy and therefore, as boys, they grow up as men and their partners are women. ‘Hindi kasi tama ang makasama sa buhay at magpapamilya ay parehas na lalaki. Kung ayaw mo itama ang ginugusto mo, hindi namin matatanggap yun.’

“Things can be discussed fully. At least you have attempted to talk it out with your child, explaining the moral and complex implication of what he likes. Remember you can have effeminate ways, but you never desire men. Yun yung emphasis ng pagtuturo sa bata. After pubertal stage, it’s a different story.”

Why is being gay still considered a shame for conservative families, even now that we are living in modern times that gays are accepted in our society? Gays (both male and female) are contributing well to our society, in different professional fields.

Dr. Camille: “Most families still cannot accept the fact that something went wrong with their parenting. They feel that something is not right — moral issues are always part of the issues, especially to the Christian and close family ties. “Traditions and culture as well are still part of the family structure that greatly influences their views regarding homosexuality.

“Remember, since child rearing and proper parenting are part of one’s holistic disposition, the lifestyle and preference he will choose is considered to be part of what a parent has nurtured and instilled in him.”

Is being gay really a lifestyle choice? Or genetically influenced?

Dr. Camille: “The genetic predisposition is there but if from the start it is corrected, maiaayos. Remember, genetic predisposition. Hindi minana, na at the start bakla siya. Ipinanganak siyang lalaki o babae. Ikaw na magulang ang mag aayos at magtuturo. Thus, the lifestyle and preference become prevalent rather than the genetic factors. This is the most Christian and appropriate explanation I can give.”

I thank Dr. Camille for her expertise and for shedding light on this sensitive topic.

As a mom who has a three-year-old son named Nio, my personal take on the matter is this: Nio, when curious, plays with his big sister’s toys. But we always point it out to him that those are toys for girls, and these are toys for boys. We compare toys so that he will understand.

Before he turned three, he was fully aware and could already distinguish the girls’ toys from the boys’ toys. We realized that playing with his big sister’s toys is his loving way of bonding and playing with his Ate Antonia. When big sister is not around, Nio doesn’t touch the girly toys.

Apart from toys, he chooses what clothes and shoes to wear, and his choices are very masculine. I think the presence of a dominant male figure in our home, that is Julius my husband, is a great factor why Nio is very much male. They play rough games such as boxing, kiddie baseball, sword fights, wrestling and the like. I think that activities such as these will help establish the child’s gender role.

I am simply talking from experience, having a young son, a three-year-old.

Now, if you ask me — what if my son grows up to be gay? I will not encourage. But will I accept? A mother will always accept her child. A mom may not agree with all of her child’s choices or preferences, but in the end, being a kind human being is more important than what your gender is.

We do our best as parents. We guide our children based on societal norms while balancing what is personally and morally acceptable to our own families. But once they are adults and choose to live life a certain way, it is their choice, and along with it, the consequences.

A parent must be there to support and love their children all the way, no matter what. We all deserve to be happy and free.

We are all children of God, and in the end, regardless of gender, it is God who will judge us.

Source: Philstar.com

267 comments:

  1. impokrito lang talaga mga bakla. kunwari dasal dasal, simba simba, pero yung pagiging bakla mismo sabi sa bible sin na agad yun. walang excuses. walang justifications.

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    1. Being gay is never a sin. Hooking up with the same sex is. You're becoming too judgmental. May you burn in the pits of Tartarus.

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    2. Hay naku! Eto n nman tayo sa "sabi sa bible".

      Pahingi nga ng exact book/letter/gospel kasama ng chapter and verses sa bible na sinasabi na "yung pagiging bakla mismo... sin na agad yun."

      kasi elementary pa lng my cathechism n kme. from 1st yr - 4th yr high school ako, may values education kme (kasama n yun dun ang pag.aaral ng lahat ng books/letters/gospels ng bible). Nung college my theology 101 hanggang 106 kme.lahat nman yun napasa ko. Parang hnd yata nmin npag.aralan ang part ng bible na yan (or baka abcnt lng ako.) hehehee.

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    3. hahaha basa basa dapat ng bible kung naniniwala ka sa bible. im just stating what is written there. ang hirap kasi sa inyo, relative ang truth sa gusto nyo sa buhay nyo. dapat sinusunod nyo punto por punto yung bible kasi di ba, yun ang pinapaniwalaan nyo. bakit ngayon selective? bakit ngayon kapag may gusto baluktutin, may justifications palagi?

      pakatotoo neng.

      -atheist

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    4. 1 Cor. 6:9 - "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor [abusers of themselves with mankind]..."

      ang bongga di ba, effeminate lang eks na sa langit daw hihihihi

      -atheist

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    5. Alam nating mali, ginagawa parin natin. Ang pakikipagtalik sa kapwa lalaki ng mga bakla ay tulad din yan sa pagnanakaw, pangangaliwa, pagsisinungaling, pangmamaltrato ng isang straight na lalaki. Sin is sin malaki man yan't maliit. ung iban jan kung makapanghusga akala mot ang linis linis nila. Ang mismong panghuhusga nyo ai isa ng malaking kasalanan sa mata ng Diyos, alam nyo ba un?

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    6. Kng punto por punto dapat sinusunod ang bible, eh panu to???

      "And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members
      than that your whole body go into hell."

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    7. Who gives a damn about that book anyway?

      - Buddhist

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    8. eh di putulin hihihihihihihihihi. yan ang problema sa mga naniniwala sa religion, sobrang IMPOKRITO. selective ang gusto sundin sa pinaniniwalaan nila, at relative ang pag intindi at explanation para sumakto sa mga gawa nilang mali.

      -atheist

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    9. anon 1:11 EXACTLY my point. religious people who believe in the bible make all the twists and justifications they can find to align what is written on their bible to their lifestyle of choice, under the guise of RESPECT.

      they call it respect, i call it hypocrisy.

      -atheist

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    10. It is stated in the Bible that homesexual acts is detestable to God.

      Kung bakla ka man or effeminate pero di ka naman nakikipagtalik sa kapwa lalaki, di ka naman mapupunta sa impyerno

      Ang homosexual at heterosexual sex ( outside marriage) are both sins

      Cruella

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    11. Eh hindi nman kasi lahat ng bakla eh yung dasal ng dasal at simba ng simba. Hindi lahat ng bakla eh gnagawa lahat ng sinasabi ng bible. Hindi lahat ng bakla eh katolikong naniniwala sa bible. May bakla dn na hindi katoliko.. Kaya hindi mu pwdng sabihin na ipokrito lng talaga ang mga bakla at kasalanan ang pagiging bakla sabi ng bible. Pakialam ba nila sa bible kng hnd nman sila katoliko.


      Eh panu ung baklang atheist?? Impokrito dn sila?? Kasi dba, my baklang atheist dn???

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    12. okay lang naman yung article, wag kayo sensitive

      my thoughts - the problem is not being gay, the problem is being sexually available to anyone, experimenting with anyone.. this destroys the foundation of being a family.

      the problem these days is the lifestyle being proclaimed as cool is being sexually active and available, male or female.. whats next - STD, teen pregnancy, abortion, homeless children, poverty, prostitution.. and it is always the young that suffers.. selfish

      a straight person which engages sex with a lot of partners is also at fault for not giving value to commitment and family.. so they are just the same

      tell me, why do gay people fight for the right to same sex marriage but only a few really ended as partners.. and why do we want to legalize divorce, back up plan?

      what happened to "'til death do us part"

      simple, commit yourself to family (wife, husband, partner), and have a child, so that commitment goes to another level.. if you cant or is impossible to have, adopt one

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  2. everyone is entitled to a personal opinion. so, kung matino kang tao, u take it as it is...wag mashadong sensitive!!

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    1. Agree. I think mashado lang talagang balat sibuyas ang Pinoy. From her article, she seeked the advice of a professional and her comments are based from her, whatever she'll frel once her son becomes one. Words used were everyday words that can come out od someone's mouth. Social media hype lang yan!

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    2. it should be sought not seeked! just saying. and i guess there's nothing wrong correcting you. :)

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    3. korekong na may takong! di naman nya kino condemn mga beki's, sinasabi lang nya kung anong gagawin nya pag nalagay sya sa sitwasyon na may signs na maging beki anak nya. Makareact naman iba dyan...

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    4. mahirap kasi pag beki ka, di mo iniisip magkaanak, kaya di ka worried magkaanak na beki

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    5. this is her opinion as a parent. it is her job to guide her children to a better path and she also stated in her comment nman na if by chance e yun talaga ang choice ng anak nya eh aaccept nya nman. so please lang ung ibang tao jan paki lawakan ang pag intindi. this is a sensitive topic pero tintin as a mother has a right to express her opinion on what is good for her children.

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    6. I don't see anything wrong with Tintin's article. She is not condemning the bekis. Opinion lang po nya yan. I dont think meron cyang sinasagasaan dito. Wag po OA. Tintin just said na sana wag maging beki anak nya pero if gusto ng anak maging beki...eh di go! Wala daw cya magagawa kundi supportahan.

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  3. I agree with some of the points of the article: that parenting is a major contributory factor to one's gender orientation. You can always teach your sons or daughters the appropriate behavior aligned to one's biological sex. However, I don't agree with the statements of Camille Garcia, that parents allow their child to act gay or be gay. Bottomline, the predisposing factor is there.

    And I agree with he sweeping conclusion of Tintin, that we will always love our children. But I don't like how she put the last statement of God judging us. Is she implying that God will punish gays for being gays?

    - parent of 2 boys

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    1. We are all children of God, and in the end, regardless of gender, it is God who will judge us. <--- i think what she meant was God will judge us on what we have done on earth..

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    2. Correct. Agree.

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    3. U missed the " regardless of gender" it means n God is a just God

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    4. i think ibg nya sabihin is God is the only once who can judge us regardless of our sexual orientation is, at hindi ang maga tao ang maghuhusga sa bandang huli.

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  4. Okay naman yung sinulat niya.. Read last paragraph:)

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  5. It's a sensitive topic since it's not acceptable by everyone. She could have just chosen to write a different article on parenting.

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    1. Yes, something she's an expert already. Sana if she got the right resource person like Dra Margarita Holmes kaso medyo jologs itong Psychologist na kinuha nya.

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    2. Lol!!! "medyo jologs itong psychologist na kinuha nya" one of the best comments

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  6. Disappointed with Ms. Tin Tin Bersola's article. We are all born free and equal. Can we just respect each other's chosen orientation?

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    1. Saang part ba binastos ni tintin ung chosen orientation ng ibang tao????

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    2. anon 12:23 dont just read, at least try to understand!

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  7. nature vs. nurture but im leaning more on nature plus nurture. if one from the other is there, then the worst case scenario is magiging silahis lang ung bata. i dont like the article not because of what it said but because it says so little, so one sided.

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  8. sensitive topic and she is not an expert....she is just a 3rd party, no first-hand info / exp to share...in other words, stick to topics close to you...

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    1. But she did! She even,entioned her son diba?

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    2. sorry, but being a parent, experiencing the growth of her child gives her the right to be the expert.. its just that she can write and we cant.. and shes not anonymous and we are

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  9. kung papatyin natin ang mga straight ngaun ala na matitirang lalaki sa earth mabuhay tayong mga gwapong maton go go gurls

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    1. baka tamaan ka ng kidlat

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  10. Im a mom too of a 3-yr-old boy. Im a single mom..but I have a very strong family support coming from a gay couple (my uncle and his long-time bf). Nakita ko kahit papano kung gaano kahirap pinagdaanan ng uncle ko, growing up being gay. I have huge respect to the gay community lalo na nga at napapaligiran ako ng mga bading na mahal na mahal ko. Pero bilang ina, naiintindihan ko si Cristine Bersola Babao. I wouldnt encourage my son to be gay. At kahit sabihin pang playing with girl toys wouldnt make my son gay, hindi ko pa rin sya hahayaang gawin yun. That is my stand. Pero pagdating ng araw, pag sinabi sakin ng anak ko na bading sya, tatanggapin ko sya ng buong buo at mamahalin pa rin sya ng higit pa sa buhay ko.

    Gusto ko lang din idagdag..na mismong uncle ko na bading at yung partner nya na bading din, sila mismo ayaw nilang hayaan ko na maglaro ng girl toys ang anak kong lalake. Bading sila..alam nila kung gano kahirap maging bading sa lipunan natin. At kahit pa sabihing hindi naiiwasan ang pagkabading, ang opinion ko at opinion ng uncle ko, gabayan lang habang bata pa. Paglaki nya, at nalaman nyang bading sya, then go lang. Kaya sana maging open minded din yung mga nagbabash kay Cristine Bersola.

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    1. Very well said:) nice comment:) i agree sa lahat ng sinabi mo

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    2. Iba yung reason mo sa iniimply na reason ng article na 'to eh. Ang sinabi ng article MALI ang maging bading dahil ang lalake ay DAPAT nagkakagusto lang sa babae kaya dapat habang maaga pa, pinipigilan na.

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    3. go girl! i salute you.

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    4. I'm a mother of a 5 year old boy and I totally agree with what you said here. I understand where Ms. Tintin Bersola is coming from. Na miss interpret lang ata ng iba.

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    5. Anon 2:42, na mis interpret lang ng mga bading mismo. Masyadong mga balat sibuyas itong mga bakla na ito. Konting kibot lang me masabi ka lang sa kanila galit na galit na sila pero ang mga kalaswaan nila wala silang paki kahit kasuka suka na. pwede ba!

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    6. tama ka. tanungin nila si ogie diaz or arnel ignacio kung gusto nilang matulad sa kanila mga anak nila

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    7. I agree with you.. nag over react nman agad yung iba.. basa basa munang mabuti bago magtatalak.. kanya kanyang opinion tayo.. kung sa ganon ang stand nya.. let's respect it. Buhay nman nila yun.. and vice versa.. happy happy lng tayo people.. chill!

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    8. I agree with you! Meron din akong mga gay friend na ayaw maging bakla ang mga pamangkin nya.

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  11. being a gay like me :)) i dont find it offending mas realistic nga sya eh sana tinagalog nya na din para dun sa mga haters/bashers nya ay maintindihan at maunawaan ng maige :)) as per Dr. Camille Garcia tama nman sya she is just being professional and she is just doing her job. she based it on a scientific explanation :)) thanks!

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    1. Tama! Alam nyo nman ung mga doctor, lahat ng bagay gusto nla my scientific explanation.

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    2. Your parents raised you well anon 12.32. Malawak ang pag iisip mo. Sana nga madami pang ganitong article to raise awareness and understanding sa mga magulang na may mga anak na gay.

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  12. Being a Mother of a gay child, I find the article offensive for it was insensitive to what parents truly feel once they discover that their child has a different sexual preference. My heart broke into million tiny pieces but what can I do other than to accept my child for what she is because I love her. Mrs Babao expressed her apologies later, stating she isnt equipped with enough knowledge about the topic. IMO, she should've researched more, get insights from the parents. Mali na sabihin nyang "Don't shoot the messenger" , article nya yun and she should've been more responsible. Peaceout.

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    1. Wala ako nakikita masama sa sinabi christine...she is just being true to herself, at least hindi xa ipokrita.. Sino nga nmn b parents ang gusto maging bakla anak nila? Kahit ikaw sinabi mo n ur heart broke when u found out. Didnt u read the last paragraph n sinabi nya n if her son turned out gay she will still accept it beacuse parents always do, and love their child no matter who he is... Basahin m n lng maigi para maintidihan mo

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    2. 12.33 AS FP stated in other BI, there is no specific steps or methods on how to rear your child. So may parents has different views on this. So, Christine made her son as an example, not yours specifically. Don't feel insulted, di naman nya sinabi na masamang magulang ang may anak na gay or masama ang gay. I have also a son and he is "malambot", but he's still a child and guiding him to be more masculine. If I failed, I'd still accept and love him.

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    3. I agree why will you be insulted? I read the whole article twice and wala naman ako mkita mali. They talked about a very sensitive topic and I think it was discussed well naman, sana lang people will be open to others' opinion. Sana people won't listen to the things that they only want to hear!

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    4. Hindi kita maintindihan anon 12:33~~ kase base sa nabasa kong article sa taas pareho naman kayo ng gustong iparating. Na you'll both support your child no matter what.

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    5. maybe because your the mother, have you tried asking your husband, the father.. even if the father learns to accept, i bet he thinks the both of you should have done better with your son

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    6. maybe u feel offended because from d start e wla kng gnawa pra magkaron ng mas maayos n pagpapaintindi s gender orientation ang anak mo. no offense pro un ang tngin q-u just accepted it from d start and now guilty ka kc wla kng gnawa.

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  13. Sabi niya she never judges her gay friends, pero self-contradicting na she wrote "my son is very much male" and that when parents see early signs of homosexuality, they should "discourage" such behavior as if being gay is something to be ashamed. Very insensitive! Very poor write up! I hope your son becomes a gay man in the future hahahahaha!

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    1. I think the discourage part was stated by Dra. Camille, not Christine.

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    2. anon 12:38am, wishing that on her is in such bad taste.

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  14. Huh? Binasa ko ng talong beses, Parang wala namang mali?

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    1. oo nga, binasa ko din ng madaming times

      anyare? why the sudden violent reactions?

      She even said this: "Now, if you ask me — what if my son grows up to be gay? I will not encourage. But will I accept? A mother will always accept her child. A mom may not agree with all of her child’s choices or preferences, but in the end, being a kind human being is more important than what your gender is."

      so whats the big fuss all about? bakit pag ganitong issue parating nam-magnify agad pag dating sa mga bading? porket may scientific explanations na binigay yung dr. ang ibig ba sabihin non pinapalabas na nila na sakit ang pagiging bakla.

      ano ba yan. lawakan naman sana ang pag iisip. mao-offend ako kung directly sinabe na homophob sila or na salot ang mga bakla but they didnt even mention something like that. nasa pagkakaintindi lang yan ng nag babasa

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  15. its not offensive, for me.

    question lang, mga gays ba gusto magkaanak ng gay rin?

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    1. I asked my gay friends and brother about this recently. Di nga nila ineencourage mga pamangkin daw nila but if the time comes na maging gay din e di tatanggapin na lang.

      Ang iniisip din kasi nila mahirap maging gay so ayaw din nilang mahirapan ang kids.

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    2. Exactly.. gay na mismo nagsabi na ayaw nila na lumaki ng gay hangga't maari d b.. at kung maging gay p rin.. then RESPECT and ACCEPT.. kanya kanya namng path sa buhay e..

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  16. Ayan na naman ang mga Pinoy, confusing "sexual orientation" with "gender" or with "gender orientation". Being 'gay' simply means you prefer the same sex, period. Hindi naman ibig-sabihin na kapag gay ka eh kilos-babae ka na or mahilig ka na sa mga things/activities that are stereotypically for females. Likewise, hindi rin naman porke mahilig sa things/activities that are streotypically for females eh ibigsabihin gay na ang anak nilang lalake. Again, being gay simply means liking the same sex. Pwedeng machong-macho ka, pero kung lalake ang gusto mo, eh gay ka, by definition.

    Anyway, I think Tintin Bersola doesn't deserve all the flak. Kung meron mang dapat i-criticize dito, si Dr. Camille Garcia yun. Tintin was simply quoting the doctor diba?

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  17. Relax naman mga guys. Mashadong balat sibuyas.

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  18. I agree to the article she wrote we parents should guide our children. Nobody wants their child to be a gay right? I mean c'mon, do gays really wants to be gays? as the article says, there are predisposing factors that affect a human becoming gays.

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  19. I don't see anything wrong with what she wrote. Sabi, guide your children and make sure to point out the difference between the sexes, pero kung doon din ang patutunguhan, mahalin mo pa rin ang anak mo. Walang mali roon.

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  20. I dont like christine bersola kasi namamalditahan at nayayabangan ako sa kanya BUT wala naman ako nabasang masama sa article na to ah? Pati yung sinabi ni dr. Camille, ayos lang naman? Kala ko pa naman binash ni christine ang mga beki sa lipunan eh hindi naman pla! Juice ko day! Ang oa ni lea salonga! Kala ko talaga karumal dumal ang sinabi ni christine! yun lang naman pala! eh bottom line nga tatanggapin pa din nya kahit maging bakla daw anak nya eh!

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  21. I don't see anything offensive on her side? Most of t are quotes from the psychologist. Hey if you don't agree with her respect it. As i'm sure she will also respect your choices. Kailangan ba agree na lang tayo lagi sa lahat?

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  22. Honestly, walang mali sa article. Nag present ng expert opinion ang article. Nagpresent din ung writer ng personal opinion nya. Nonetheless, it was done i good taste. I do not see where the fuss is coming from? I have many gay friends pero i do not think that article attacks them at all. It was a feature on how to handle a child if there are indications that he or she might be gay with a 3rd party opinion and the writer's opinion. Sorry, but there is really nothing to be sorry about.

    -BB GandangReyna

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  23. If homosexual movement wants integration and acceptance, then they must start from accepting that not everyone will be open to homosexuality. Respect begets respect. Stop being hypersensitive. I dont think this is written in bad taste at all.

    @engtionggo

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    1. "not everyone will be open to homosexuality" BAKIT?

      Why cant we accept gays? Meron bang hindi tanggap ang pagiging lalake or pagiging babae? Bakit may double standard?

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    2. @134...ganun talaga ang buhay...may mga tanong ayaw sa mga homo...gusto mo naman lahat tanggap ka.

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    3. lol @2:21am.. Well, tama ka. Life in this world is not always fair so 1:34am should suck it up.

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    4. in the perfect world, that is ideal. we should learn how to co-exist. dapat tanggap lahat ng klase ng tao. ang pagiging bading ay hindi "abnormality" kaya dapat tanggapin siya.

      theres discrimination, threat and bullying because there are some who cant accept gays in the society.

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    5. Sa totoo lang sobrang naOOA- yan na ko sa mga bakla or lgbt na ito. Dito sa america may masabi ka lng na di nila nagustuhan iaattack ka na nila ngkatakot takot. gusto equality, ayan na nga pinagbibigyan na.. Pati ba naman sa salitang marriage gusto nila sila din! Anong sasabihin ko sa mga anak ko? Na normal lang nila na makita ikakasal parehong lalake or parehong babae? Sila nga mismo nandidiri kapag nakakakita ng ganun eh. Pano mo yun ipapaliwanag?

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    6. Generally, you can't please everybody. Kahit ang straight individual nahihirapan maging accepted sa LAHAT, the same with the LGBT, di lahat mapiplease at matuturuan magaccept.

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  24. Demoralizing in its nature.

    To all homophobics and bigots out there

    "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract."

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  25. Wala ako Makitang Mali sa article.

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  26. I am a gay and i see nothing wrong with Tintin's article. Whether we accept it or not, discrimination against gays still exists in our country and no parents would like to see their child being subjected to such harshness of life. Parents would likely discourage their son if they see him playing with a doll and i think that is a normal reaction coming from them but if it turns out later that their son becomes gay, it is also natural for the parents (especially the mom) to accept their son's own sexual preference. Many of us have experienced that and in the end, it is not really your sexual orientation or preference that defines who you are... it is how you make good of the person in you and be a responsible & productive part of the world you are living in. Chill and Peace to all!!!

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  27. It is a sensitive topic for sensitive people. Nothing wrong with what she said, considering the last two paragraphs. Gaya nga sabi ni FP sa "A Rare Gem" BI, there is no formal or manual study on how to be good parents, and parentings often go by gut and feel. Bilang anak naman nya yung pinag-uusapan, karapatan nya na palakihin ang bata based on her beliefs and principles. Hindi na ninyo concern yun dahil hindi nyo anak yun. I have a son, and I also go for what I think is right and proper for him, but in the end, I'd still love him for what he is. Sa mga galit na galit, mag-anak kayo at yun ang problemahin ninyo. Wag yung anak ng may anak.

    -Echoserang frog

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  28. She never made a stand. Halo-halo ang mga sinabi nya which made it worst I guess.

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  29. I didn't find her article offensive. Let's be real. As parents, we want our kids to live a normal life. What's my definition of normal? Beyond any other issues, if he's born a male then he should live a life that is appropriate for males and same goes with females. Now, if he/she turns out to be gay, the parents do not have any other choice but to accept the reality. In the end, love prevails.

    Cristine presented her side eloquently. If it's her opinion, then let it be. Some people are open-minded with homosexuality and some still see it as taboo.

    Ang mga kapatid na beki tlga masyadong sensitive sa ganitong issues.

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    1. isang malaking check para sa iyo. ok lang sana kung mga beki lang ang sensitive...pati yung mga non-beki wagas kung mag-react (yes, i'm referring to you, lea!)

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    2. I like lea a lot but her comments on this topic is over the top...turn off...

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    3. di ba gay si leah?

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  30. HELLO! Syempre nmn pag pinagbubuntis ba, winiwish mo na maging bakla or tomboy yung junakis mo? HINDI NAMAN di ba?

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  31. I don't see anything wrong with what tintin wrote.

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  32. Lea's tweet was over-reacting. May pinaghuhugutan ba si ateng?

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    1. they were rivals in hs... dont know the full story though

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    2. Yes they were! Christine was valedictorian when they both graduated. I think Lea was salutatorian or Honorable Mention...kaya diether ocampo ang peg ni Lea. You can verify at OB Montessori.

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    3. Actually, Lea was valedictorian and Christine was salutatorian. It became a major and well publicized issue due to objections from Christine and her family. They think Lea did not deserve the honor given to her because academically speaking, Christine fared better. Lea was perceived to be 'close' to the owner of the school who is Preciosa Soliven. She was always performing during school programs and was already quite popular at that time.

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  33. If you would read TinTin's article and be open-minded about it, she doesn't deserve all the hating and bashing.. She just simply featured the opinion/book/research of a doctor.. She may have featured a sensitive topic but I don't read any derogatory statements from her.

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    1. I don't agree with how at the end of the day,she dismissed all of the contents of the article to the psychologist. She also put her opinions there, ano.

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  34. I see nothing wrong with her article. Its not degrading at all.

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  35. There is nothing wrong with the article...

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  36. Responsibility ng magulang na palakihin ang anak base sa pinaniniwalaan nyang tama. Kung importante sa faith nila na defined ang male & female gender roles (tutal hindi pa naman nagiisip about sex ang mga bata), dapat irespeto yun ng public. Kailangan ng mga bata ng structure para kung sakaling magdecide sila as adults to live as homosexuals, sigurado silang hindi dahil confused lang sila sa gender nila while growing up.

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  37. Hindi naman nakaka-offend... Bakit ang sensitive masyado ng gay community? Yung statement nung senatoriable ang nakaka-offend...

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  38. I believe the article was written for parents, not for gays. This thing had been blown out of proportion, and there are Joey Reyes and Lea Salonga feeding the issue. Damn. If only people are smarter!

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    1. agree. why is this being blown out of proportion? freedom of speech right? so we can express all our opinions.

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  39. Wag na kasing bible ang basihan nyo ng tama at mali. Alam naman natin sa sarili natin ang tama at mali. Magkaron lang kayo ng empathy at conscience. Kung kasalanan ang pagiging gay di ba dapat tinatanong nyo ang maker nyo kung bakit ginawa kayong gay? It's in the hormones. Sa gay, lamang ang female hormones nila kesa sa male hormones nila kaya wala yan sa magulang o sa sarili nya. Blame it to your maker.

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    1. I think sa bible interpretation lng ngkakatalo.. Some of us tend to over analyze it, we even think of it literally . When all we have to do is to follow our instincts b/w whats right and whats wrong ...Anythingvabove moderation is bad.God is a just God hindi xa nagstereotype, theres even a parable about magdalene when jesus said "let he who havent seen cast the first stone" even this parable is enough to say n hnd nagcocondemn ang bible... Kya sana wag nila isama bible sa issue

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  40. I don't find the article offensive.

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    1. me too. Isesensationalize na naman ito ng mga feeling high almighty know it all people. Sayang, but oh well fan pa rin ako ni Ms. Lea.

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    2. yes me too... hindi naman offensive ah...

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  41. Expert ba yan? Eh wala namang scientific studies na prinesent, ginamit lang ang titulong "psychologist" para ipresent ang PERSONAL opinion nya na homophobic. Ok lang sana kung sinabi nyang opinyon nya lang yun, lahat naman ng tao may karapatan magkaroon at magbigay ng opinyon, pero nilahad na para bang yung stand nya ang official stand ng buong scientific community.

    Kung objective yung psychologist na yan, sana binanggit nya yung studies na may mga chemicals sa plastic na nakaka-affect sa hormones ng mga sanggol. Yun ang isang theory kung bakit maraming bading ngayon kesa nung previous generations.

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    1. Medyo mahirap kasi mismong mga scientists or psychologists di ma-explain completely what causes homosexuality kasi wala pa talaga silang mapatunayan as objective as what you want it to be. Kaya ngaTumulong ka na lang sa research! Ang yabang mo! As if namang scientist ka! Sige nga! What causes homosexuality? I dare you!

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  42. “Things can be discussed fully. At least you have attempted to talk it out with your child, explaining the moral and complex implication of what he likes. Remember you can have effeminate ways, but you never desire men. Yun yung emphasis ng pagtuturo sa bata. After pubertal stage, it’s a different story.”

    - This quote copied above is very clear. If you have a kid at a very early age, you tell them or teach them the concept of what male & female is. Bata pa e kaya yung basic at simpleng bagay muna ituro. Now when they grow up at naging teenagers na, alam na yung concept ng male & female pero feeling nila e they like the same gender, make them understand that IT IS NOT A SIN TO BE GAY. Btw, Mrs. Babao did not mention anything that being gay is a sin. BOW :)

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  43. Kaloka mga comments dito! Puro tungkol sa Bible. Quote kung quote ang labanan! Epecto ba ito ng conclave? hehehe

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  44. yes si tintin bersola ang nagsulat ng article pero kung tutuusin si dr. camille ang may madaming sinabi about being gay since siya ang guest. so di ko alam kung bakit may mga nagsasabing guilty siya sa kung ano man regarding the topic. yes may opinion si mrs. bersola pero hindi naman niya fino-force sa nagbabasa ang paniniwala niyang iyon. si dr. camille naman sa sinabi niya wala namang mali ah. tama lang na i.explain sa bata yung ganun. pero kung matanda na yung indibidwal pero gay talaga siya, choice niya na yun. wala ng magagawa.

    doktor si camille garcia at iba ang line of thinking niya. it's up to the audience or readers kung paniniwalaan nila si doc.

    for me there's nothing offensive about the article. wala namang sinabing masakit o masama or degrading about gays.

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  45. Sa mga statements ni TinTin, walang foul. She stated her case in a respectful way..kahit hindi ako agree ok lang. Though sa mga statements ni Dra., mejo crossing the border in such a way na she was saying that what she believes or her stand is the absolute truth and dun yung may prob.

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  46. Wala akong nabasang offensive sa article. On the contrary marami akong natutuhan.

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  47. Una, walang masama sa pagiging bakla. Mismong World Health Organization na nagsabi niyan. Walang scientific basis na nagpapatunay diyan sa sinasabi ng psychologist na yan na dapat baguhin. Ano ba ang stand ng PAP tungkol dito? Dinadala ni Doctora kasi ang pangalan ng mga psychologists eh. Ang alam ko lang, salungat ang sinasabi niya sa American Psychological Association.

    Pangalawa, ang mahalaga, tanggap at mahal ng pamilya ang isa't isa. Kung pagpipilitan ng magulang ang gusto nila sa anak nila, kahit na tama sila (at di ko sinasabing tama sila sa pagkakataong ito), alam natin na hindi ito magiging mabuti sa kanila.

    Pangatlo, sinasabi ni Doctora na pwede pang baguhin ang pagka-bakla. Walang nakakapagpatunay na pag binago mo ang pagkikilos ng bata, hindi na ito magiging bakla. Kahit na mag-asawa pa yan o magka-anak, lalaki pa rin ang nasa isip niyan. Maraming high profile cases na kung saan sinasabi nilang nagbago sila, pero sa totoo pala ay nililihim na lang nila ang pagiging bakla nila.

    Imbes na nagpapakatotoo ang mga tao, mas lalo tuloy silang mapipilitan na magtago. Yan ang epekto ng mga ganitong article. Maraming salamat, Tintin!

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  48. Walang Ina ang gustong mapariwara ang buhay ng anak nila. Mas gugustuhin pa nga ng isang Ina na sila ang nasasaktan kesa ang kanilang anak. Sa kaso ni tintin hanggang maaga hinihubog nya sa mabuting paraan ang kanyang mga anak. Oo aaminin ko isa akong bi at may karelasyon din na bi at may mga pamangkin din kaming lalake. Sinasabi namin sa kanila kung magiging bakla din sila dahil sa na curiois sila at gusto nilang maranasan ang naranasan namin, sinasabi namin sige subukan nyo. Basta ba wala kayong inaagrabyadong tao. As long na di kayo nanghihingi or nakakagulo sa lipunan. Kasi kung minsan ang tulad natin mga bi, gay and lesbian ang sya pang nakakatulong sa pamilya natin. Walang masama sa pagiging bakla. Basta marunong kang makisama at may respeto sa ibang tao pati na rin sa sarili. Sabagay tao lang naman tayo nagkakamali. At sa mga pagkakamali natin may natutunan tayo.

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  49. I don't find the article offensive at all. Yes nakakasakit sa mga bakla pero, well, maraming tahimik na a-agree pa rin. Aminin na nating mga bakla, maski tayo pag nag-ka-anak, ayaw din natin siyang maging bakla! Mahirap maging bakla alam niyo yan! Pero opinyon ko, mali pa rin na sabihing ang pagka-bakla ay na-ko-correct, dahil para sa akin, pag pinanganak kang bakla, bakla ka na talaga for life! Itago mo man, pinahihirapan mo lang sarili mo! Sensitive na topic ito, siguro pag hindi bakla, huwag na lang i-public ang opinyon niyo! Ang may karapatan lang mag-salita at umopinyon sa kabaklaan sa mga bakla lang din dapat! Hay naku.... paalam na ko mga bakla!

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  50. Well maraming tahimik na a-agree kay Cristine pero nakakasakit din talaga sa damdamin naming mga bakla pero, well, aminin natin, maski tayo pag nag-ka-anak, ayaw din natin siyang maging bakla! Mahirap maging bakla alam niyo yan! Never na talaga sigurong magiging ka-proud-proud ang pagiging bakla kaya nga andami diyang ayaw mag-ladlad! Pero opinyon ko, mali pa rin na sabihing ang pagka-bakla ay na-ko-correct, dahil para sa akin, pag pinanganak kang bakla, bakla ka na talaga for life! Itago mo man, pinahihirapan mo lang sarili mo! Sensitive na topic ito, siguro pag hindi bakla, huwag na lang i-public ang opinyon niyo! Ang may karapatan lang mag-salita at umopinyon sa kabaklaan ay mga bakla lang din dapat! Hay naku.... paalam na ko mga bakla!

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  51. Sa mga nag-e-excuse na the article was written for parents, kaya dapat e hindi ma-offend... wala kayong sense! So, you're willing to have parents rear their children negatively? Porke parents e you will let them guilt their gay kids into the closet? Porke parents e you will let the homosexual child feel unaccepted? Porke parents e you will let the gay kids suffer in silence and not live their lives as fully and positively as they can? What nonsense logic. Parents should not guilt their children for what they are---using the logic that "as parents, I can rear my children the way I want to". That's your legal right as parents but that's not necessarily the right thing to do.

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    1. The article is talking about parenting and rearing in the child's early developmental stage wherein there is no confirmation yet as to the sexual and gender orientation.ang conclusion nga is when the boy surfaces as gay/show tendencies of being gay at a later developmental stage, then parents should accept na. D naman sinabi na pahirapan ang bata eh. Inexplain lang yung roles habang wala pang malay ang bata.

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  52. nothing offensive in here...as parents, you discuss the issue with the child...early on, of course you tell them what's for boys and what's for girls..you're completely stupid if you teach a boy to play with barbie dolls...that's just experimenting with the child..but let's say in the future, if deep inside the child feels that he's really gay, then so be it...you do the "talk", but also be prepared to accept the reality..it's not about what's morally good or wrong..coz if you hinder them from discovering their identity, they'd reach a crisis..

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  53. I read her post 2x, top to bottom...nothing wrong with it..she's only stating her opinion on how she is raising her children...I have 2 little boys, as a mother it is my right/my obligation and my decision how to raise my kids the way I see it right and fit. I buy boys toys,cars, trucks, etc. because that's what little boys play with. I dress them up as boys because they are boys. IF and WHEN they are old enough to distinguish that they are gay then then I will understand and still love them/support them for who they are. But now that they are young and I'm rearing them, I am going to rear them the way I see fit because I AM THEIR MOTHER. Not you, not him, not the person next to you, but ME.

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    1. As a mother of a three-year old boy... Amen, Anon 6:30! :)

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    2. I agree with you! I'm a mom too of a young boy. Sana maintindihan ng iba point of view ng isang magulang. Bilang magulang, gagawin natin lahat para gabayan ang anak natin.,sa paraang alam nating pinaka the best para sa kanila. Sabi mo nga, "IF and WHEN they are old enough to distinguish that they are gay then then I will understand and still love them/support them for who they are. But now that they are young and I'm rearing them, I am going to rear them the way I see fit because I AM THEIR MOTHER. Not you, not him, not the person next to you, but ME." Agree ako sa lahat ng sinabi mo.

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  54. Nothing offensive to this article...

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  55. Kakasawa na ang debatihan sa mga bakla!

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  56. 75% of filipino men are gay

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  57. I'm gay but isa ito sa mga nabasa kong article na di naman offensive. Pag about gay ang article talagang hinahanapan ng mali

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  58. Let her be. There's nothing offensive with this article. Fine, hindi niya alam ang feeling ng isang gay, pero di rin natin alam ang feeling ng isang magulang na may anak na natatakot siyang maging gay. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that's her take on the matter as a parent. So respect nalang, just like how you guys want your opinion to be respected.

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    1. Very well said, Anon 9:11. :)

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    2. Thanks 1:04! ;)

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  59. nothing wrong with the article. period

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  60. She is very ignorant.

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  61. I don't see the article offending. Her last opinion was speaking for herself and her son, what's wrong with that? Territory nya yun. Sana wag masyadong sensitive ang ibang tao, esp gays that are affected. Lumalabas na masyado lang papansin. May pamangkin ako leaning to that direction, pero wala kaming magagawa. Dun sya kumportable, dun sya masaya, so dun kami. We can tolerate our differences, but anything in excess or papasin is annoying already.

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  62. I'm gay at alam ko na sa sarili kong ganito ako bata pa ako. Maayos akong pinalaki ng magulang ko at masasabi kong hindi sa pagpapalaki nila kaya ako naging ganito. Nung una hindi ko matanggap sa sarili ko na gay ako pero narealize ko kung pipilitin kong itago at baguhin ang sarili ko para masabing nasa tamang landas ako dahil yun ang pinaniniwalaan ng karamihan, hindi ako magiging masaya.Mahirap mabuhay sa mundo ng nagkukunwari, minsan lang tayo mabubuhay hahayaan pa ba nating mabuhay tayo sa kasinungalingan. Yung iba nag aasawa pa para maitago ang pagiging gay nila, hindi ba mas kasalanan yun na nanloloko tayo ng babae para lang sa sarili nating kapakanan.

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  63. ang haba.. hindi ko na binasa...

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  64. For all who are saying that the article is nothing offensive then see the following quotes:
    “True gayness comes out at pubertal stage. (It is when the child desires or has a crush on the same sex.) What is wrong with some parents is encouraging the behavior. It’s like when a parent says, 'Kung ano ang binigay sa amin ng Diyos tatanggapin namin.’

    “Explain that he is a boy and therefore, as boys, they grow up as men and their partners are women. ‘Hindi kasi tama ang makasama sa buhay at magpapamilya ay parehas na lalaki. Kung ayaw mo itama ang ginugusto mo, hindi namin matatanggap yun.’

    The doctor's perception of gay and it's lifestyle is twisted.

    and Lastly, can't you see the underlying prejudice against gay people on tintin bersola's statements like the following:

    "Before he turned three, he was fully aware and could already distinguish the girls’ toys from the boys’ toys. We realized that playing with his big sister’s toys is his loving way of bonding and playing with his Ate Antonia. When big sister is not around, Nio doesn’t touch the girly toys."

    "Apart from toys, he chooses what clothes and shoes to wear, and his choices are very masculine. I think the presence of a dominant male figure in our home, that is Julius my husband, is a great factor why Nio is very much male. They play rough games such as boxing, kiddie baseball, sword fights, wrestling and the like. I think that activities such as these will help establish the child’s gender role."

    She managed to justify his son's actions its as if it's something abysmal. And FYI Ms. Tintin doing masculine things is not exclusive for full blooded males.

    It goes to show that parents are far more afraid of the prejudice and scrutiny against them as parents of a gay child because their parenting skills will be questioned and will be deemed as f*cked up by social norms.

    The hypocrisy of this article is unbelievable.

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    1. well, i agree...i also believe that stereotyping should not be done especially among kids...my daughter plays with guns and "boys' toys" cuz she wants to be a cop someday...she just idolizes her dad so much...so what's wrong with that?

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    2. Exactly, hirap kasi sa mga nagbibigay ng opinions like this, they do not have enough sensibility on the topic that they are talking about. Though I respect and understand Tintin Bersola's opinions on this kasi nanay siya, I would've respected her more if only she kept it to herself instead of writing it down as an article. Besides, she has this doctor telling her that "true gayness comes out at pubertal age," teh, seryoso? so ibig sabihin may false gayness? Kaloka!!!

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    3. the more may mga ganitong articles, the more lang pinaparamdam sa mga gays na issue pa rin pala ang pagiging bakla. the more mo sinasabi sa anak mo na its wrong to desire people of the samte sex, the more mo lang vina-validate ang nararamdaman niya. or pinaparamdam mo sa kanya na mali ang maging bakla, so kung lumaki man siyang straight, lalaki siya with the mindset na masama ang mga bakla dahl mali ang ginagawa nila. Thank you Tintin Bersola ha! Good job!

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  65. Bakit laging Bible eh kung ang mga pinuno mismo ng Simbahan ay mga bakla din.....? Cacaloca kayo...mag Conclave mga bakla....

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  66. why can't other people respect others point of view... It's her opinion and as openly gay as i am i don't find it offensive nor condemning, that article is meant for the parents who are still confused or having thoughts about their child... not for the grown up gays to react for! ang hirap ngayon daming sensitive at opinion sa mga ganyang isyu pero sasabihing liberated na ang mga pagiisip nila! kalowka!

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    1. i agree! kapag naman ang sinulat na article is: oh kapag gay ang anak mo, sige suportahan mo...bigyan mo sha ng mga pang babae sige payagan mo nang magboyfirend...im sure madami ding magrereact! kaloka!

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  67. There is nothing wrong with this article.. She is just a mother who wants the best for his son..

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  68. wala akong nakikitang masama sa article ni Tin Tin. wala namang nakaka offend syang sianbi sa mga sisters natin. kakaloka naman ang pag iisip ng iba.

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  69. ako rin wala akong nakikitang masama. i also feel the same way. it's like having a kid with an extra challenge to overcome. i mean who has children and wishes na maging bakla? everyone knows gano kahirap and why gays have to overachieve (pero siguro kaya sila good eq and mega successful) to be accepted. even the most talented, brightest, bestest of them still experience the worsts even at their level of success/accomplishment. who would want that for their child? it's the same as having a kid na mataba. wala namang masama pero siyempre, sa society natin better if slim lang.

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  70. Firstly, there is nothing wrong with what she expressed as her views on being gay or children turning out to be gay.She is a parent and has every reason and right to voice out her opinion, and her take as a mother.I guess what's wrong is there are too many bored people who have nothing to do but magnify anything that is said about "gayness" to the point that they end up judging the opinions of others.It's you people who treat this as a sensitive issue when in fact gays are humans who just have a different sexual orientation.Gays do not have to feel persecuted every time this is a topic for discussion, if you are secure with who you've become and if you have ample self--respect to maintain your human dignity.

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  71. Nothing wrong with the article. No biases whatsoever.

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  72. tin tin per se was as tactful as possible. it was dr. camille garcia's statements that were insensitive.

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  73. Preposterous! Lea is right. As only women can understand women, men understand other men, it is only gay people that can fully understand other gay people. These people dug for themselves their own grave.

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  74. Dear Dr. Camille Garcia, Tin-Tin Bersola and Everybody,

    http://www.transkidspurplerainbow.org/featured/im-a-girl-understanding-transgender-children/

    http://www.transkidspurplerainbow.org/featured/the-agony-of-nurturing-the-spirit/

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  75. wala rin ako nakikitang mali sa article nya. Yung iba kasi maka-react wagas! Not generalizing all bekis pero bakit pag gay articles na di pabor eh nag rreact ng bongga pero yung iba naman kung makapanglait din grabe...

    Opinion ni ms. bersola yun and how she will raise up her kids. Nanay din ako, ako rin kahit may lgbt sa family namin I won't encourage my kid to follow the footstep of my relative.

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    1. Tama! Mommy din ako at kung makita konna ang anak ko na lalaki ay nagpapakita ng signs ng pagiging isang gay susubukan ko sa makakaya ko na ialis ang attention nya sa kamunduhan ng pagiging isang bakla. Pero kung nasa puso at pagkatao nya na maging isang bakla wala na akong magagawa dun . Basta ba mabuting tao at walang sinasaktan.

      At kung sakali man ay tuturuan ko ang anak ko na maging bukas ang isipan at maging matatag dahil mahirap maging gay sa isang lipunan na sarado ang isip.

      Walang masama sa artikulong ito. Hindi naman kinutya ang mga lgbt. Insight lamang ito kung ano pwedeng pagsimulan na maging bakla ang isang tao. Bakit sobrang reaction ata

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    2. Correct! I dont see any wrong on article..Si Lea at si sino director yun , kung makareact kala mo wagas..haha.. sawsaw!

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    3. Di yan opinion. Ang opinion yung kay quiambao. Ito may pakyeme kyeme expert pa. As if totoo pinagsasabi. Dun sya sa middle east magsama sama sila I-stone to death mga bading dahil hindi kuno "natural" at pwedeng gamutin. Di yan choice. May mga bading akong kilala na ayaw nilang maging bading. Choice that effing doctor kwak kwak's face.

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  76. oh Dear Lord, bakit ba ang hirap na ng issue pag involved na ang bible.

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  77. Bible? The same story book where Lot had sex with his daughters after god turned his wife into a pillar of salt because she looked over her shoulder? Or 42 kids were killed by a bear summoned by god because they were making fun of Elisha? Or god killing every 1st born child because they weren't jew? Or a man was stoned to death in god's command because he was gathering woods for fire on the Sabath day? I could go on and on but do you see the point? Cherry-picking a Bible verse is never a good thing to do.

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  78. Wala naman masama sa sinabi ni Tin, pero yung sagot nung psychologist ang "insensitive".... parang she pointed out na disease at maiko correct ang being gay... tsktsk..

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  79. I am gay,,.at hinfi ako ba offend sa article.. And i agree, if ever na magkaanak ako, i wont tolerate him or her to be a gay, ill do my best na hindi sya maging gay..pero if ever maging gay sya.then ill accept it.

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  80. I totally understand the perspective of Ms. Tin in writing this article. Maybe the problem lies in how she wrote the article. The topic she discussed is very sensitive and would require a lot of gender fair language so that readers wouldn't have that impression that she is biased or against the LGBT community. She should have also consulted an expert or might as well interviewed someone who is gay to validate the claims of Dr. Camille.

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  81. i agree with Lea Salonga. Amen.

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  82. dapat issues about being Gay hindi na dinidiscuss ng ganito. if they are not pro againt gay, just shut up kasi makaka offend talaga ng tao. if it really is written in the bible na sin to or whatsoever, bakit ito lang ba ang sin na nakalagay dun. y dont they focused on more important matters. like example, thou shall not kill. thou shall not covet thy neighbors wife, thy neighbors good. i think mas impt yun kesa sa Gay discussion.

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  83. For me, there's nothing wrong with this write up. This is her POV,let us just respect it.

    Pero eto ang opinion ko- homosexuality is wrong in the sense that when God created this world, He only created MAN and WOMAN. There was no mention of anything in between. Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because sin, including unconventional sex (man with man, man with animal, etc)was prevalent at that time. Kinatok katok nga nila yung pintuan nila Lot and were demanding na palabasin yung 2 lalaki (who turned out to be angels)para daw maka sex nila.

    But then again, sino ba hindi nagkasala? Ke bakla, tomboy, lalaki, babae, lahat nagkasala. For all have sinned and had fallen short of God's glory (romans 3:23)But then, love tayo ni Lord and He wants to save us. That's why He sent His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life (John 3:16). It's never too late to change but you have to make that choice SOON because we don't know what will happen TOMORROW.

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  84. In my opinion, wala naman pong masamang sinabi si Ms. Tintin, she was merely interviewing the psychologist and the latter answered base sa pananaw niya bilang doktor ng sikolohiya... at bilang isang ina din, sang ayon ako sa sinabi nya na "I will not encourage but will I accept?"... Of course bilang isang ina na may anak din na lalaki, mahirap tanggapin pero kailangang tanggapin ngunit hindi ko rin i-eencourage ang bata to the point na since gay na nga siya ako pa mismo ang bibili ng mga head band, pony tails and all that girly stuffs... Hahayaan ko siyang hanapin ang sarili nya na kung anu ba talaga sya... But still i will accept him no matter what he chooses to be, girl or straight.

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  85. Wala ko nakikita na mali sa article na ito. Though un ininterview for this particular article ay medyo harsh sa nga sinabi nya. But its not naman d opinion of d writer itself.

    Madami lang tlaga nega sa atin!!

    M.E.

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  86. OA ang reactions ng mga na offend...i found nothing wrong with the article especially kay Tintin Bersola...of course dun kay Dr. Camille we may not be able to comprehend fully pero malay natin theoretically yun talaga based on their studies..

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  87. tama lang naman yung article sakto lang... i find it really fair.

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  88. Pssst... tin tin, huwag ka ng mag sulat tungkol sa gays. Di accepted ito sa public... taboo ang topic. Sulat ka nalang about heterosexual people... pero baka magalit din sila. huwag ka nalang mag sulat para walang mabasa :)

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  89. I don't find Christine Bersola's article offensive. In fact I agree with her. I have so many friends na gay and I all love them dearly but if i have a son I wouldn't encourage him to be gay kasi nakikita ko kung gaano kahirap iyong situation nila. Pero if ever he turned out to be one syempre as a mom tatanggapin ko. Unconditional love ang tawag dun.

    As for the father figure, totoo dn naman that the father really plays a major role sa development ng personality ng bata. If you've notice iyong mga batang babae who grew up without a father most of them mas attracted sa older men some become lesbians. Same dn with men pag mother nila palagi ang nakikita nila mas malaki ang chance na maging gay cla. Although d dn naman applicable sa lahat ang situation na to.
    Mahirap talaga sagutin kung ano iyong cause ng pagiging gay if it's genetic or environmental. Some say its a choice cguro nga totoo iyon but personally feeling ko naman hindi dn madali sa kanila to make that choice kung d lang talaga nila nararamdaman na gay cla mahirap dn naman kse to pretend. I'm sure ayaw dn naman nla to be in that situation pero that's what makes them happy so hayaan nalang natin ..As for their lifestyle well its between them and God. Wala na sa atin iyong right na mag judge.

    Na misinterpret lang cguro ng iba iyong article ni Christine. I don't think na ginawa nya to with the intention to offend the gay community. Kaya unfair dn naman para sa kanya na i'bash sya kaagad. (^_^) WORLD PEACE!

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  90. Mga pinoy lang ang ipokrito.. Eh ang dami nga dyan baklang pari minomolestya pa ang kabataan. Maging mulat nawa tayo sa katotohanan.. Na ang inaakala nating tuwid na pamunuan ng simbahan ay sila pa ang gumagawa ng kahalayan. Church is corrupt and full of anomalies. Siguro gustong gawing pope si Tagle kasi mga pinoy na lang sa buong mundo ang natitirang mga ignoranteng kristiano.

    mga hunghang lamang ang naniniwala pa sa mga naka laman sa bibliya.. Ang katotohanan ay ang ngayon at hindi ang mga kathang isip na sinauna. Mag isip isip tayo mga pilipino..

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    1. if it is ignorance to believe in God. I would LOVE to declare to the world how ignorant I am!

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    2. magisip isip ka rin ineng sa mga pinagtatype mo... kung wala kang diyos fine. pero wag na wag mong idadamay ang word of god!

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    3. id rather be hypocrte than be evil like you!

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    4. my redeemer lives!!!

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    5. haha, Anon 4:38, being a hypocrite is actually worse than being evil. Do you even know what Hypocrisy means? evil din yan na nagbabalatkayong mabuti. hays!

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  91. Mali kasi sa article it's as if being gay is a choice. It's not. Parang it's something you can encourage or discourage. You just can't. You can discourage a gay person all you want on homosexual relations but that would just end up making his/her life miserable. Ang mga magulang na kagaya ni TinTin ay magkakaroon ng mga anak na gaya ni P. Closeted gays who make girlfriends they would just all hurt together with themselves along the way. Never to be openly happy. Sad, but true.

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    1. The problem with P is not his parents kaya ayaw nya mag out... It's his career! Aminin natin na even if madaming rumor na he's gay as long as walang concrete evidence or hindi sya mag a'out tuloy pa rin ang work nya but if he comes out cgurado the end na iyon ng career nya. hehehe 

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    2. Actually, ang sabi ni Tintin ay she will "not encourage". People just took it as though she meant she will "discourage" her son from being gay. Iba naman ang ibig-sabihin ng "not encourage" sa "discourage". Wala namang masama dun sa sinabi niya.

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  92. I dont see any wrong with the article.. Please read before you react.
    If implied as if its a choice then what.. That was her perspective.
    Aminin natin madami klase ng bakla sa atin.. may straight , may bisexual, may confuse, mayroon nasa closet (trying to prevent the unleashing of their true self) like P. Therefore, there can be several perspective on this matter.. So those closet gays "choose" to stay secret and off the radar.
    In the end , one cannot speak about something na hindi mo nararanasan.
    This gender issue is sensitive pero dont overreact kasi naman ang mga bakla hindi pare pareho din..

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  93. I have a gay friend and classmate (high executive in G***e) and I just remember what he always said sana hindi kayo mag kaaanak ng bakla kasi mahirap. Talking from his experience on love and acceptance. He said , it was not a choice or preference..It is something na di nya maexplain even him who graduated as summa cum laude in engineering. So when Bebe talked about his gender naiintidihan ko ang ibig nya sabihin... To the article, wala masama sa artikulo.. If you are smart and a parent you will understand. But what is wrong is parang she implied na pwede pigilan ang pagiging gay ,which is not... I still believe that being gay is genetically related. Parang if may "gay" kang kamag anak likely magkakaroon kayo sa next bloodline.. Even the Kings before may mga gay (napanood ko lang sa Game of Thrones) hahaha so possible props lang queen.

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  94. pag nagkaanak ako at sinabi nyang straight siya, kahit masakit, tatanggapin ko siya kahit ibig sabihin nung pagiging straight nya e mahihilig siya mag-dota maghapon magdamag, maging tamad siya, lalaking tambay, lasengo, laman ng bilyaran, maaga makakabuntis, at magdadagdag lang ng palamunin e tatanggapin ko pa rin siya dahil anak ko siya.

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    1. well depende sa lifestyle nyo yan. and depende sa pagpapalaki mo sa straight na anak mo

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  95. I don't find the article insensitive. It is true that at a certain age if you see a child confused of their gender it is better to have reinforcement of what they really are. Sometimes it helps them realize their true identity and end up being men than gay. But Tin also said they will surely accept their child even if he ends up gay. People are just over reacting. Read it first and understand it fully.

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  96. Based on the article alone, I don't see anything wrong with it. Tintin was just quoting the Doctor. Yung doctor ang psycho! Tintin's personal views were just seen at the latter part of the article. She didn't say anything bad naman, I think. I haven't seen her interview regarding this brouhaha, pero kung yung article lang talaga ang basis, I think Tintin didn't say anything to offend the gay community. But then, generally speaking, it's just sad lang that being gay is still an issue dito sa Pinas. It's 2013. Let people live their own lives.

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  97. gay men r actually fun to be with.too bad i dont wanna get near to any of them.they all seem to be filthy.lolz

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  98. There is nothing wrong with the article. Masyado lang tayo naging sensitive about Homosexuality. Even if we live in a modern society, the majority will always have conservative views about sexuality whether we like it or not. Most of us are accepting that there are gay people but when you are a parent, syempre ituturo mo kung anu sa tingin mo tama at yung order ng mga bagay bagay especially sa bata. When your children reach the age of reason and knowing kung ano preference nila, acceptance and respect on what he/she chose is the next step.

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  99. Ms. Bersola has all the rights to express her opinion much more as these bashers have. Heck, even if it's not about this topic,people still have opinions in every matter. that's life. Gay people are just too sensitive.try to live a life, you're lucky that somehow you are respected despite the practices you do. same sex with same gender is gross so yeah,i will encourage my children to not become one of you if they do then I will disown them. that's my opinion and i am entitled to it.

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    1. Wow, And the bigotry award goes to... hahaha! Mas Gross ka kaya Anon 8:59PM. And excuse me, luck has nothing to do with the amount of respect that the gay community has been getting. We worked hard for it, therefore we deserve it! Besides, no one needs you or people like you to approve the kind of lifestyle that we are going to have. DUH! And kung magkaroon ka ng anak na bakla at i-disown mo nga siya, i bet it would do him tons of good to be away from a parent like you! Sa opinion mong yan, I feel mas madami magmamahal sa bakla mong anak kesa sa yo. Opinion ko rin yan, I am entitled to that as well!

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  100. i respect homosexual preferences but i detest homosexual acts...especially homosexuals who exploit young people!

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  101. I am gay and i am proud of it. I see nothing wrong with Tintin's Article.

    All along it is all about good parenting and being there to the children as a parent.

    Now, lets put to the picture of a gay parent, does that automatically make them a bad parent?

    TO tintin: I think i know you are a good person, but being a parent (in a view of a gayguy raised by a very traditional parent like you) i believe good parenting is a continuing process and role. I hope in 10 years from now, youll be able to really raise your kids well. And when i say that, not necessarily your kids being straight but who knows your kids will be gay too. And i salute you if you truly will accept your son when he turns out to be gay. Because thats what my mom told her friends then, but when i came out, i knew she had a broken heart. But she never judge me, like how you define the pre-indication of being one through boys toys/girls toys. Just hope your son will not turn to be a drug addict.

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  102. She is entitled to her own opinion but not to her own facts. It's unethical for her and her "noted psychologist" to misinform and mislead readers about the nature of homosexuality.

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