I love you Lea!♡♡♡♡♡♡.Bading Capiznon
I'm gay myself but honestly, I dont want to have children who will turn out gay too :(Mahirap at masalimuot ang pagdadaanan ng mga gays like me. When I was growing up, daming struggles ang pinagdaanan koGayish
ANON 1:22 AM, ang tanong, bakit masalimuot ang pinagdaanan mo? Dahil ang society na kilakhan natin, hindi parin tanggap. Kahit nga ikaw hindi mo tanggap eh. Pero kung susuportahan mo, kung gagabayan mo, hindi sya mahihirapan ng masyado. Saka dapat lang na may maranasan silang kaunting hirap no, hindi pwedeng puro sarap lang. Papano silang lalaking matibay? "A sword forged in fire is much tougher than any mineral entombed in stone."--anonymous
Hi anon 1:44Mahirap pa rin sa society natin ang pagiging gay to be honest. Yung outside factor na mismo ang hindrance. Like pag aapply ng trabaho etc etc...Gayish
Nabasa ko yun article ni tin-tin wala naman ako ng makitang mali sa sinabi...actually i believe that as parents its our responsibility to guide our child..sa ultrasound dalawang gender lang ang nakikita its either boy or girl...tama nmn sya walang magulang ang kayang talikuran ang anak..kung tlgang hindi na macorrect at "if one day my son told me "mudra this it i'm gay" well he is my son no matter what dugo at laman ko sya I will love him just the same
I'm gay and I'd love to have gay kids too. As a parent, I would be scared for them. I admit that. Pero kung nandun ang suporta ng magulang, kahit anong pagdaanan ng bata, makakayanan nya yan. Don't make kids feel like they've done something wrong just because they're gay. It doesn't make them less as a person.
@Anon 8:45 "kung tlgang hindi na macorrect" - wow! so you're saying na mali maging gay? di naman ata tama na husgahan mo kami basi lamang sa aming sexual preference. di ko pinili na maging gay pero I'm proud to be one. Sana lang mabago na yung stigma about gay people in this country... -Jay-
She has a point though. Writing an article on being gay when you're not gay is being foolish. It's a wrong choice of topic for Christine. She should have just focused on being a mom and a wife.
come on...u're saying i cannot write an article about men because i'm a girl? that's being foolish..she's only expressing an opinion. it is what it is...respect other's opinion.
@12:28- Sige nga, how can you write about the inner workings of a man if you're not a man yourself?
i think the article was written on a mother's perspective.
@1241 - u can do such by using evidence based practices and research..do u think the doctor that they interviewed based her answers through what?? napanaginipan lang nya at yun sinagot sa mga tanong na yon? don't sweat the small stuff...and it's all small stuff...move on with ur life! :)
Ah, wait. I think the article was supposed to be a "CHILD-REARING" (her son) topic, and not a gay article. She never claimed it was an expert opinion about gays. I like Jose Javier's post than Lea's.
Palso ng argument at reasoning mo 12:41.
Dahil ba, hnd xa bakla hnd na xa pwdng mgsulat tungkol sa mga bakla??? Panu kng gusto kung mgsulat ng article bout animals? Hnd rin ba pwd kasi hnd ako hayop?lolz
She wrote an article about parenting, not just about being gay. Theres nothing wrong with it, IMO. She wasnt dissing on gay people, she didnt say it was a sin or a disease.. Isa syang ina, at sa tingin ko walang masama sa mga sinabi niya lalo na ang topic ay tungkol sa child rearing. It's not a wrong topic! masyadong OA talaga yang si Jose Javier Reyes na yan, pati si Lea, mga self righteous kasi.
She focused on being a parent having a potential gay child! A gay person cannot write what his parents went through about their child-rearing!
In fairness to Lea, she said "experts." Ibig sabihin, you can talk about being gay all you want kahit hindi ka gay but unless you're a member of the community yourself, you don't exactly have the first-hand experience to really know what it's like to be one. Hindi mo naranasan ang mga pinagdaanan nila, hindi mo alam ang takbo ng isip nila.
i read the article but i dont find anything offensive on what mrs. babao wrote. it is her opinion as a parent and how she would not encourage her son to be gay but if that will still be the case eh she said as a parent she will still accept it. and with regards to the opinion of the psychologist e she based it from studies. i have a high respect for leah but i hope she gave this article a wider perspective and hoped she have understood mrs. babao's opinion as a parent.
lea, hindi naman kasi knowing how gays think, but knowing how a mother thinks.. in the same way, bakit ka nagko comment, may anak na lalaki ka ba?
Na offend ata si lea para sa kapatid nya hihihi
But Tintin's article talks about teaching a potentially gay child that it is wrong to be gay. Kung hindi ka gay, di mo malalaman kung gaano kasakit na iparamdam sa yo ng magulang mo na masama ang ginagawa mo! Its easy for you guys to side on Tintin's article because she used her being a mother, a parent, which most of you can relate to! But take the side of the child na nagkakaroon ng gay feelings, and sabihin sa yo ng magulang mo na mali yan, na kasalanan yan, don't you guys think that it is potentially more damaging and confusing to that child? and if indeed that child grew up to be gay, ano kaya mararamdaman niya looking back na yun ang iniisip sa kanya ng mga magulang niya, isang malaking kasalanan!
It's a very sensitive topic. It's not a choice. You can eiter accept it and face the world or hide behind the closet. You can't change your sexuality.
Ang dami mong alam lea! Punong-puno ka ng opinion!! Respetuhin mo din ang opinion ng iba. Ugh you're so full of yourself. Ikaw na si Dalai Lama.
eh matalino naman sya talaga at madaming alam and brave for that matter.
Masamang magbigay ng opinyon?
Sometimes I think that way too anon 12:16. but she's smart and brave.. chuchu
anon 1228 nagbibigay lang silang dalawa ng opinyon
Anon 12:26 --- you are full of negative vibes! and more so, your comment shouldn't be posted coz you have no substance at all! lol :)
Matalino naman talaga si Lea ah! She's just speaking her mind. That's what people admire about her: she speaks with wisdom and grace. At least di siya puro parinig and press releases!
Anon 12:16 pla dapat not 26, haha wala kasi akong antipara lol. anyways so Anon 12:16 it really helps when you read. You know reading is like installing new software to your brains :) Isip isip din muna bago mag comment :p lol
Umeeksena ang dakilang salutatorian ni Ms. Babao. LOL. =p
Anon 12:48 intelligent yes but to say she speaks with wisdom and grace? Nah, she is so arrogantly frank
I dont think she's arrogant in the same way that I didnt find Anne Hathaway in Ricky Lo's interview arrogant. They're both just being honest. Cultural difference lang siguro. Sa West kasi honestly talaga eh. Unlike dito. Ass kissers na plastic tapos backstabbing.
Yes, i find lea salonga most of the time arrogantly frank. Feelingera.
That psycho is wrong, too.
the problem with lea's comment is she seems bullying mrs babao's article because she knows she has more followers than mrs babao
Lea is just vocal. She is a very smart lady though.
lea salonga, read this: i don't think gayness is a disease or something to be ashamed of. but if my kids grow up and be gay, that's a different story. i hope your child grows up to be a full pledged lesbian, then tell us what u think.
I'd rather have a child that would grow up to be a full pledged lesbian than a child that would grow up to be as bigoted as you.
You are contradicting yourself. Your last statement implies that being gay is a curse.
and btw, anon 12:18, you're statement is self-contradictory. Hipocrisy at its best - Bading Capiznon.
y'all..i have lots of gay friends and love them..but it will break my heart if my kids will grow and end up being gays..that's what my heart tells me..so move on :)
Uhm. I think nagkakamali ka anon 12:18. Lea is actually on LGBT's side. Tinitira nya artcle ni tintin Babao. :)
we all have prejudices.
its amusing how straight celebrities are vocal about gay rights. pero when it comes to their kids, lalabas na ang prejudice nila. take for example si chuvaness. she's surrounded by gay men etc and yet nung mag nag-comment na hawig ng son niya si shiloh ayaw daw niya coz shiloh's gay daw. nganga na lang ako.
ANON 12:18, it's full FLEDGED, not full-pledged. Hindi po nagpapa-pledge or oath taking ang mga beki para maging beki (or lesbians).
12:18am. It's easier said than done ika nga nila pero kung pagpipiliin ang isang tao kung anong gender/orientation ang gusto niyang maging first born baby, mauuna kayang niyang maiisip at pipiliin ang pagiging transgender/bisexual than straight? I don't so.Tama ka iba na talagang usapan 'yon. So, mahirap magsalita ng patapos.
Nyahaha. It is full-fledged gay. Use of hypen for two compound words to describe being gay. It is not literally doing like the pledge of allegiance with rites and all. LoLz
Full fledged gays...magaling na kau sa Ingles like idol lea..wish ko meh laman naman utak nyo at di makitid sing kitid like idol lea ulit
2:58 AM Kufal maka-correct pero "hypen" ang sinulat, hahaha! "Hyphen" te!
AT anon 12:18AMDi ko gets and logic ng argument mo.
This issue is a controversial one: is homosexuality by nature or by nurture. The article points out that it is by nurture.There are different schools of thought for which affects what. But safe to say that the Dr. is a Psychologist who subscribes to the nurture part (psychologist nga e). Most who subscribe to nature part is involved with natural sciences. But I really do hope her "point" was truly her words and not taken out of context.Gender is truly in unnecessary label, don't you think? But like all other labels (that we criticize) it was created for order, it was created in our minds. And as for these people, we cannot change that compartmentalization of their thought to these issues. Either by nature o by nurture, what defines us is our choices on what we will be. Not all gays are men-hungry and some of whom I admire because of their impeccable achievements (like Foucault and Turing) and not all straight persons are necessarily good.
Some people need to research more about gays before commenting on it or trying to "prevent" becoming gay. It seems they don't know that there are lots of masculine gays out there who loves sports, rough games, etc. They are that but they also happen to fall in love with those of the same gender. Looking at gays in a stereotypical POV (gay guys as girly and lesbians as butch) is both ignorant and irresponsible especially for journalists giving opinions. Di ba nga may mga "barakong" tatay pa na nilulublob ang mga anak sa tubig para magpakalalaki. And what happen afterwards, they may hide it out of fear, be rough and be all masculine and tough in the outside, but that doesn't mean they are don't find the same gender attractive anymore. Look at BB Gandanghari. I doubt you could ever get a more masculine environment to grown up in than the Padilla household. Did that prevent Rustom from turning to BB? Carmina got hurt in the process of Rustom trying to "prevent" what comes natural..
maganda ang argumento mo, nice one :-D
i love lea but please, you're not gay as well so stop feeling like an expert too.
She did not give an "expert" opinion on being gay. She gave her 2 cents' worth on people who have no business talking about being gay.
exactly!!! feelingera! di naman nakapagtapos ng college!
I dont think Tintin gave an expert opinion on this matter. She only mentioned how she explains to her kids such and such about gender differences.
So, pag di nakapagtapos ng college di na pwedeng magsalita o makialam?
So, bilang writer ng article like Tintin, di pwedeing magbigay ng opinyon?
AnonymousMarch 13, 2013 at 12:29 AMi love lea but please, you're not gay as well so stop feeling like an expert too.o anonymous, opinion mo lang na hindi siya gay, youre not sure... but im sure your bobo. a shovel caling a spade a shovel. stupid is as stupid does. hindi ba obvious opinionated ka din? how stupid can you get? youre stupidity amzes me. Brave to say im Carla Ordonez not another anonymous know it all.
Uhm 12:37 hindi lahat ng nakatapos ng college may common sense or can even write a coherent sentence like Lea Salonga. Trust me I know lots of stupid college graduates hello
yes. you know i lot
Kahit hindi nakapagtapos si Lea ng college, sa Ateneo iyan nag-aral ng 1 or two years!!!
I read tintin's article,nothing wrong with that. She never insulted homosexuality. Bilang magulang, walang karapatan ang ibang tao kung paano nya palakihin ang mga anak nya, especially in kids' childhood years. Kung gusto nyang madistinguish ng anak nya ang gender differences, so what? Tama naman sinabi nya, will she encourage her son to be gay? she won't.. but will she accept it? syempre oo, kasi anak nya yun.I have good gay friends and may anak din akong lalaki. Hindi ko rin sya i-encourage na maging gay but if he grows up to be like one, okay lang. Sa mga nagrereklamo, edi mag-anak kayo at palakihin nyo sa paraang gusto nyo.
I couldn't agree more.
i super agree. that's her view on parenting. kaya nga siya binigyan ng column para sa point-of-view niya. now, if may mga taong nag-disagree, then move on to the next column. wala naman sinabi sa article na dapat sunugin ang mga bading. sa ibang book ko pala nabasa yun...oooopss...anyway...
Ako din, Im surrounded with gay people na nirerespeto at mahal na mahal ko. Kaya nga kung yung anak kong lalake lumapit sakin isang araw at sabihing gay sya, tatanggapin ko sya bilang sya. Pero bilang ina, obligasyon ko na habang bata pa sya, gagabayan ko sya sa paraang pinaniniwalaan kong the best para sa kanya.
Very well said!
Tama, Anon 12:32! Tingin ko na-misunderstand lang din nung iba si Tintin Bersola when she said that she will "not encourage" her son to be gay. Maybe others took it as though she would "discourage" her son to be gay. Magkaiba naman kasi yung "not encourage" sa "discourage". Ang nakakainis lang naman sa article eh yung statements ni Dr. Camille Garcia, siya yung dapat na-criticize, not Tintin.
Come on lets just be realistic...hindi naman kinokondena ang pagiging gay pero kung pwede rin lng nmn hindi maging gay mas ok diba? Its like hnd naman kinocondemn ung mga obese pero kung pwede rin nmn maging fit why not? Di ba..tanggap na sa community ang gays pero that doesnt mean n ipopromote mo n ito.
ANON 1:16 AM, first of all, obesity is a disease. Homosexuality is not. I resent the implication. Secondly, yung mga hinahanash nyo na "gender differences", it's still based on the concept na homosexuality is something that should be avoideed. Hindi sa parenting nadadaan ang pagiging bakla ng bata. Hindi rin naidadaan sa pag-encourage ng magulang whether or not bakla ang anak nya. Believe it or not, it's something we're born with. Nasa parent yan kung tatanggapin at gagabayan ba or hinde. Ang nakakairita sa mga comment nyo is katulad lang kayo ng mga matatanda na ipapamukha parin sa mga bakla na pwede pa silang baguhin by the "correct" or ng "pinaniniwalaang" parenting style without taking into account na hindi namin choice ang pagiging bakla.
tama kayong lahat..kaya kayong mga bading, pwede ba manahimik na kayo!!!
@152, kampihan ko si 116...wag na obese..mataba na lang..pwede namang fit wag na lang mataba :P....so, kung gayness is something u were born with..does it mean God created a third gender?!?! tanong lang ha..baka may alam kang article that mentions homosexuality is something u're born with.
Tama kayong lahat ang hirap lang kasi ay maraming opinionated na tao sa mundo, hay!
Lahat n lng biniblame nyo sa walang kamalay malay n hormones n yn.. Wala p nkktuklas ng exact reasons or causes ng homosexuality. Some of them pointed factors or predisposing factors that may cause it at kasama n dun ung environment/ culture/genes etc. pero mostly idiopathic pa rin tlga ...unknown so hnd masama sa parents n imold ung anak nila sa paraang alam nila. There's really nothing wrong w/ this article.. Ung can read erik erickson theory of child development. Every child undergoe certain stage of development, this case falls on identity vs role confusion this is the stage na dapat iguide ng parents ung mga anak nila kc dun n nadidetermine ng anak kung anu identity niya, so its the child choice p dn sa huli at kung anu man choice nya. Parents should accept it
I'd have to disagree. There are very simple things that are alarming about her article: 1) Her "psychologist" source lets her supposed professional opinion be tainted by her own Christian beliefs and biases. In which case, that opinion ceases to be professional. 2) TinTin Bersola-Babao perpetuates these supposed culturally assigned "gender roles" to influence her children as to the formation of their identities and telling them basically what they can and can't be in life. That's crap. A child should be able to play with what he or she wants because at these developmental stages, there are NO pre-determined sexist or homophobic views in a child's head. They choose to play with what interests them and good parents need to encourage that freedom and creativity instead of LIMITING a child's imagination. What are you saying to your children when you limit that freedom? Ano yon, bawal maglaro ng toy cars ang batang babae --- dahil hinde siya pwedeng mag-drive pagtanda niya???? Hinde pwedeng maglaro ng airplanes si Ate kase walang pilotong babae??? Hinde pwedeng magluto-lutuan si Kuya kase walang chef na lalake? See how stupid that gender assignment bullshit is? Is Tintin Bersola from the dark ages? And if her son plays with girls toys, it doesn't mean he'll be gay --- he's probably just attracted by their color, shape or texture. It's adults that assign malice due to their own paranoia--- and their stupid,limited views. And before anybody here is dumb enough to say puro mga bakla ang nag-react, tanga kayo.
I got your point, Lea, but you're not gay either. Bow.
I'm gay and I got her point and I love her more for it, and I completely agree. Bow.
Magreact ang lahat kung ginugulpi at ginugutom nya anak nya. Wala tayong pakialam kung paano nya iga-guide ang pagpapalaki sa anak nya. Besides, bata pa lang yun di naman siguro made-deprived yun kung pagtaguan nya ng barbie dolls, lol.
newsflash: tapings of abs-cbn shows are paralyzed due to the silent protest of their male actors. charaughts.
Why didn't they tag Tin Tin Bersola? I really adimre FP more than these bunch of opinion givers. Hahaha.
sa FB nila yan pinost teh!
i don't like tin babao's article but I don't like lea either bec. she's too arrogant so i'll go for direk joey. :D
Bilang ina rin ako ng isang 4 yr old boy, naiintindihan ko si Cristine Bersola. Pagdating ng araw at lumapit sakin ang anak ko para sabihing bading sya, tatanggapin ko sya at mamahalin pa rin whole heartedly. Pero dahil bata pa sya, kelangan kong gabayan pa rin sya. Sabi nga sa study hindi nakakabading ang paglalaro ng girl toys. Pero may sarili akong pagiisip, paniniwala at opinion..at yun sinusunod ko..kaya tinuturuan ko anak ko anak ko na hanggat maaari boy toys lang laruin nya.At sa totoo lang, kasama namin sa bahay gay uncle ko..at sya mismo pinagsasabihan ako na wag hahayaang maglaro ng girl toys anak kong lalake. Wala talaga ko makitang masama sa opinion ni Cristine Bersola Babao bilang ina rin ako.
Correct! As parents she is just doing what she deemed proper for her child.
Wala sa magulang kung magiging homo ang anak. It's something we're born with. Nasa magulang ang PAGTANGGAP at gabay para hindi mapariwara. Fine, ituro nyo ang anatomical differences ng boys and girls, pero never equate sexuality with the archaic notion na pag may penis ka eh dapat lalake ka and so on. Don't ever tell your son na mali ang pagiging bakla
Anon 1:55, ano yon nasa sinapupunan ka pa lang nanay mo, alam mo na kung bakla ka man o tomboy? Ako nga di ko matandaan ang mga pinaggagagawa ko noong bata ako eh kasi wala pa akong malay noon. Environment ng isang tao ang nakakaapekto sa pagkatao niya at wala naman sinabi si tintin na masama maging bakla. Magbasa kasi ng mabuti. kaloka.
@155...ndi mali ang pagiging bakla..maling mali!!! lol joke
@ anon 155, I understand bakla ka, tama? Naging magulang ka na ba? Naging magulang ka na ba ng isang bakla? Magsasabi lang ako ng totoo bilang naranasan ko maging isang magulang ng isang bakla. Hindi ko kinokondena ang mga katulad niyo, nagpapakatotoo lang na syempre bilang magulang kung ano ang ipinagkaloob sayo na anak mo, tatanggapin mo, lalaki o babae, pero hindi naman masasabi na bakla sya o tomboy kapag iniluwal mo.. Masakit kapag nalaman mo sa una, pero matatanggap mo dahil anak mo yan. Yun ang totoo.HIndi sinasabing mali ito o tama ito, pero bilang tao at magulang hindi maiiwasan na mag hangad ka na sana hindi sila maging bakla o tomboy. Pero kung maging ganun man, tatanggapin naman. Kung gumagawa man ng paraan ang magulang mo para i-orient ka sa mga bagay na naaayon sa kasarian mo, dahil nararapat lang yun bilang sila ang magulang na gumagabay sayo.
Her ideas are so outdated and can do more damage to a child. She is ignorant.
leas all about love and acceptance.i agree with her
Grabe ang dami dami paring close minded people sa mundo na to. Lalong lalo na sa comments section ng Fashion Pulis. Props to Lea for her opinion!
Tama! Sana people will really think before they click.
We are close minded because we have different opinion on how we should raise our children? How about you start to accept and respect other people's opinion? Try to tell that to your idol, Lea, too.
"The only people that can claim to be experts on gay people are gay people." So Lea, do you think Kris Aquino doesn't deserve to be one of the judges of PGT because she's talentless? I don't know. I just find Lea as stupid as Tin Bersola. My Cent.
Wala naman syang sinabing walang talent si kris aquino, ikaw lang ang nagsabi nun at nag iisip na walang talent si kris aquino to even come up with that question, dont put words into her mouth
7:37 It's an analogy, st*p**! Sometimes I find some people here are very gullible. Wag maging fantard sa isang Tony award winner, please lang.
maka-comment naman si ateng lea... she's a mom too. she should've got ms tintin's point.
yep...mejo may katitiran din ang yutaks ni nanang lea...
Article lang ni Tintin pero d naman cya yung nagcomment ng masama sa mga gays. Kundi yung doktor na ininterview niya.Nkita naman ninyo ung pusong ina ni Tintin sa last part ng article, tulad ng ibang ina ayaw man niyang maging gay c Nio pero kung maging gay man mamahalin pa rin niya ito.
Wow, daming galit na galit. Her opinion is not about gay in general, it is about how she rears her child. Her words were taken out of context. Dami kasing expert, haha. I'm sure HALF of the comment posters here are singles.
I think Tintin's article is more about parenting and not expertise on gay people.
gayman here and read Ms. Bersola's article. I did not find it offensive. the way I understand it, is that she will feel "different" when her child turns out to be gay but will love him nonetheless. i think it is just but normal to feel that way. Case in point: my mother (she kinda hated me but loved and accepted me in the process) It helps that I set aside my emotions first and understand where Ms. Bersola is coming from. In this way, my judgement is clear of bias, logical and fair. Otherwise, if we are too sensitive to a fault, then what is the purpose of exchanging views? we'd be bunch of people, grumpy and provocative at the slightest notion of infringement. Good day to all of us.
aaawwww...love the way u said it!
My thoughts exactly. Both Tin and Lea have points. Wala silang masamang hangad sa mga sinabi nila.
Hmm...it is ironic that these two have opposing opinions...seems like their rivalry from high school is still ongoing - in OB Montessori years ago.
What's new? Lea's love for spotlight will never stop. Her arrogance is irritating. I find her papansin. Super.
Grrr naunahan mo ako magcomment but yes, matagal na nga silang rivals.
there is some truth to this and i can relate. mga salutatorian bitter sa mga valedictorian forever and ever amen... hahaha hahaha!
:) now we know
Please, Lea has a Tony. Bersola is nowhere near as good as Kara David as a journalist, she will never be a Jessica Soho or Cheche Lazaro. I don't see her winning a Peabody or Nobel prize either in the future. Hindi sila magkalevel. Besides, if Lea's arrogance is irritating then what about Bersola's? To say Bersola's arrogance is irritating would be an understatement of an understatement.
lea has a tony? so what? tony is for actors not journalists. acting is much easier than writing just so you know, 9:13.
Ok...so Lea has a Tony, and what? So will she forever diss Tintin and slap her face with that Tony award? Tintin and Lea have separate careers, so both are incomparable. We have to go back to the times when they can be compared as equals, and that was in high school. Tintin triumphed, that's it. Lea just move on.Andaming ampalaya dito. Yung feeling superior just because you had this and that in life. Nobody has the license to malign anyone just because "she has a Tony award". If anything, that should teach Lea to be humble. Oo, blame it to cultural differences, pero Lea should learn na ibang iba ang kultura ng mga Pinoy when it comes to gay issues when compared to the US. Sure, Tintin might just be a column writer, and will not win a Pulitzer, pero does that define her as a person? Maybe her family comprises the majority of what makes her happy, so be it. I find it pathetic when someone says "kasi I have a Tony award so you should listen to me" unless the topic is about broadway.
To Lea Salonga: ang ganda ng pagkaka english mo teh! Pero overacting ka! Wala naman ako nabasa sa article na sinabi na dapat ikahiya ang pagiging bakla? More on advice and opinion lang naman ang nakasulat, hindi naman lumampas sa opinion! Susme! Imbes na mabwisit ako kay christine sayo ako naiirita dahil muntik nako maniwala sa tweet mo buti nalang binasa ko muna article! Wag ka ngang pasikat!
I so agree with you 1:29. Masyadong feeling at nagmamarunong itong Lea na to.
Masyado kang affected. Can you blame her for being passionate about this issue? She's really close to the LGBT community after all.
Si Ate Lea naman kse power mag English, ayan ang daming beki and hindi naintindihan, kaloka.
bakit ba ganyan reaction ni Lea? Paminta ba kapatid nya???
She is just telling the truth. I guess you don't want to hear the truth.
pero xa as a parent e dapat naiintindihan nya c mrs. babao kasi child rearing na ito and in the end as a parent e acceptance pa rin ang point.
madami kasi beki sa performing arts. pero she doesnt need to speak for them
Maka react naman! ANG OA ha?!
I hate Lea for dissing Anne Curtis and I even hate her more now. I don't like her talaga eh. She's too mayabang for my taste. Sorry.
I agree.. she's so full of herself..
No. She is just smart. Unlike you.
Excuse me she has all the right to be mayabang.
she have the right pero sana ilugar nya din.
no one has the right to be mayabang. what you are now is the product of what people see you, that you started to believe you are. you cannot create oneself all by yourself
Excuse me, 10:19? She has all the right to be mayabang? Hello? Kelan pa? Because she has a Tony award and we don't thus it gives her the license to be a know-it-all? Matuto siyang lumugar. Yes, she's a great singer pero wala syang monopoly sa lahat, especially on gay issues. She's so full of herself sometimes. The rude American culture must have brushed off on her so bad it already stained her personality for life.
Wala sa magulang kung magiging homo ang anak. It's something we're born with. Nasa magulang ang PAGTANGGAP at pag-gabay para hindi mapariwara. Para hindi pagtawanan sa kalye or asarin ng mga manginginom sa kanto or mga kaklase. Kung sa inyo pa lang eh hindi nyo na tanggap, kawawa naman ang anak nyo. Fine, ituro nyo ang ANATOMICAL differences ng boys and girls, pero never equate sexuality with the archaic notion na pag may certain sexual organ ka eh dapat ganito lang ang orientation mo. That's what the detractors of Tintin are aiming at. Hindi naman namin sinasabing i-indoctrinate ang mga anak na maging bakla, dahil una sa lahat hindi nakakahawa yan at hindi mo rin maipapasa kahit na super expert pa ang parenting skills mo. Ang sinasabi namin, never limit your child's mind....and perhaps yours as well.
nobody is born gay.
@Anon 9:26AM: I would LOVE to read the scientific studies you've conducted to support this view of yours.
@anon 2:44: i would LOVE to make you read the BIBLE!
hindi kailangan ng scientific studies. bakit kailangan nun? or maybe because you dont believe in god kaya scientific ang gusto mo? kasi d mo matanggap?
If I may point out, ang sabi kasi ng psychologist na ininterview ni Tintin, mali daw na "basta tanggapin" ng magulang kapag may early signs of being effeminate/pagiging bakla ang anak. Dapat daw i-correct agad ang behavior. Wala akong degree sa psychology, pero I think that's wrong. Bakit mo ituturo sa bata na mali ang maging bakla? Bakit mo sya pipigilang maglaro ng Barbie at pipilitin mong maglaro ng trucks or baril-barilan? Dahil takot kayo? Saan? Sa mundo'ng huhusga sa kanila? Hindi ba dapat mas matakot yung anak nyo sa inyo na nauna nang manghusga agad sa kanya? Kahit pa ano'ng sabi nyo na "I love you no matter what" pero kung sa loob nyo eh hindi nyo pala tanggap, may tawag dyan eh: pagiging plastic. Tinuturuan nyo ang anak nyo na hindi maging totoong tao.
Tanggapin mo na dalawa lang ang kasarian ng tao. Role ng magulang ang gumabay at maghubog sa anak. Hindi naman sa hinuhusgahan agad ng magulang ang bata, inoorient lamang sa naaayon, bilang lalaki o babae. Uulitin ko 2 lamang ang kasarian ng tao. Masakit pero totoo.
So if u see ur son wanting to wear skirt, would u let him wear it? Or if you see him putting on lipstick, hayaan mo na lang?? Kaya nga may magulang, to guide their own flesh...u teach them what's right and wrong...Hindi plastic ang tawag dyan...kung magulang ka na at ang opinion mo reflects the way u raise ur kids...may tawag dyan iho mia: irresponsible parenthood. That is all.
They may learn to hide it as children but it doesn't change how they feel inside.
May anak ka ba? Malamang wala? Alam mo may developmental stage ang bawat tao. At sa early stages ng pgging bata dun dapat mas pumapasok na ang pagiging magulang mo. At bawat magulang may kanya kanyang paniniwala kng panu nila palalkihin mga anaknila sa paraang nararapat at tama. Sa mga 2-3 yrs old ndi pa nila alam an difference ng male or female gender. Bsta alam lang nila pare pareho silang bata at walang pinagkaiba lahat ng laruan na nilalaro nila. Doon ka ppasok bilang magulang para iguide sila sa kang "anu ito at anu yan" o "you're a boy and she's a girl". May masama ba dun? Kung ung anak mo bng 3yr old na lalake e nakita mng mas gstong maglaro ng barbie ssbhin mo bng "cge anak kng bakla ka ttanggapin kita". I don't see anything wrong with tintin's article. Opinion nia yun at yun ang nakikita niyang tamang paraan ng pagpapalaki ng anak. At sinabi din nman nia na kung pagtapos nia iguide ung anak nia at talagang naramdaman nitong beki siya e tatanggapin nia at mamahalin pa din ng buo. Wag na lanag tayong maging ipokrito. I have nothing against the gay community. Half of my friends are gay and I love and accept them as well as their lifestyle. Pero sknla mismo nggaling na tama ang ggawin ni tintin sa kng panu nia ipapaliwanag at igguide ang anak nia. Sa mga hindi makakuha ng punto ng article nia e try niong maganak at palakihin anak nio sa paraang gsto nio kung at an early age ay nakikitaan nio n sila ng pagiging gay. Hindi naman lahat pwede niong utusan na tanggapin at magagree lang ng magagree dahil yun ang paniniwala nio. Yun lang!
if your child is taking drugs at an early age, would you accept it right away? And give him/her drugs dahil yun ang preference nya!Ofcourse, you'll try to do your very best as a parent to guide him and tell your child its consequences.Hindi ko sinabing mali maging bading. Pero mali para sa isang magulang na hindi gabayan ang anak nya! if that child of yours decide to become gay, then as a parent you should accept it. But make sure that you have done your responsibility as a parent first!
wow...bat kaya dumadami ang nanganganak ng something u're born with?
I love the comments!!! Sometimes as interesting and thought provoking as the article itself!!!
Sa mga nagiinarte sa english ni lea, malamang kayo yung mga na-sopla nya before na nambabash sa kanya pero mali-mali ang english. News flash, hindi si Lea ang una at huling grammar nazi na mae-encounter nyo. Secondly, we did read the article and we were offended by the opinion of the psychologist. Sabihin ba naman ituro agad sa bata na mali ang pagiging bakla? Papano kaming hindi mao-offend. Buti pa nga si Tintin eh sinabi agad na mamahalin nya ang anak nya, pero si doktora, using her Divine Power of sanctimony, she pointed out na dapat i-arrest daw ang homosexual behavior habang bata pa. She's essentially telling parents to tell their kids na homosexuality is wrong. You can phrase it all you like but that is what she said.
mali ba talaga ang pagiging bakla?I don't think so, napanuod ko nun sa tv na sabi ng isang pari na walang masama sa pagiging bakla. Nagiging masama nga lang ito kung nakikipagrelasyon ka at nakikipagtalik sa kapwa mo lalaki.May iba nga na lalaki kung umasta at sasabihin nila na straight cla pero nakikipagsex sa kapwa lalaki,tapos trip lang daw yun. Ay,sa toto0 lang mas hanga ako sa mga bakla na aminado sila unlike dun sa mga trippers kun0-bawal talaga ung makipagsex sa kapwa gurl o kapwa boy.Wala namang mali sa article ni tintin,kay dr.camille naman,nanunuod ako madalas ng face to face eversince.may mga bakla dun na case at hindi naman hate o galit at wala namang cnasbi xia na maxama xa mga gays.ang ganda nga nya mag advice e,about jan sa article. dr.camille just explained it as a psychologist.(kumbaga scientific explanations)
my best firend's gay, I have aunts, and uncles who are gay..they read the article, d naman sila na offend, bat parang mas offended pa yung mga hindi gay? nothing wrong with being gay. mas mabait pa sila sa mga ibang straight e..pero nothing wrong din with tin tin's article. opinion nya yun e...hindi naman lahat ng tao sang ayon sa homosexuality e...parang religion din, d mo pwede i force yung beliefs mo sa iba....ano pa bang hindi accepted about gays sa society ngayon..everything's legal na...
nothing wrong with being gay. ang masama is yung mga immoral acts. like sex with same sex. In christianity, thinking to or attempting to commit sex with same sex is already a sin. Napaka unfair. hindi daw masama maging bakla pero yung gusto mo gawin hindi pwede. ano sense nun? being gay is a big punishment. :((
looks like everyone is forgetting that pre-marital sex is wrong. that is why a gay having sex with same sex is wrong because they are not allowed to get married. but in the context that they are legally married.. man to man sex will not be considered as an immoral act.if anyone will contest me.. look first on the catholic church's canon law before you attack me!
I don't think Lea is addressing Tintin. Tintin didn't say anything wrong about being gay, it was the Doctor.
just needed some advice...I found out that a family member is gay. Unfortunately, i'm the only one in our family knows it. I accidentally saw some hints (on his phone at pc) that made me sure that he's gay. He's in a relationship with a friend. The problem is, he'd never reveal it for sure. I think he don't want to discourage the elders in our family. I never doubt his preference until i found those hints. I don't know what to do, so i'm not doing anything. ?
Do you know that Lea and Tintin are actually classmates in high-school? (Not sure if St.Paul, basta all-girls school) ang chismis pa nga, naging magkakakompetensya sila for Valedictorian.. And the winner is.. Tintin
ob mnontessori in greenhills, they are batchmates, tintin graduated valedictorian, si lea ang salutatorian pero that time lea is already very active in showbusiness. mas matalino talaga si lea, conidering that she seldom atteded her class
2:51 Pero Tintin was still the valedictorian. Period. Let's just move on. It's just "rankings", it doesn't mean that the V is automatically more intelligent than the S. In the same tone that the S will justify her being second place kasi di siya umattend ng classes niya.
Lea shouldnt have commented. We all know that there is something between them s8nce high school paa. Valedictorian si tintin and salutatorian lang si lea nang nag graduate sila.
Hindi kasalanan ang maging bakla dahil hindi naman nila plinano na maging ganyan sila. Ang nakakasuka lang ay yung pilit na ipipilit na maging normal na magingmag asawa ang pareho ang seksuwal.
Pansin ko lang dumadami ang bakla.. sa lugar namin ang dami dami ng bakla mga paslit pa lang. Noong araw hindi naman ganun.. Pero ngayon sa mga panahon na ito na very open na ang pagiging gay biglang ang daming maliliit pa lang baklang bakla na. Ano yun? Epidemia? Hawa-hawa? O normal lang?
If i am no mistaken she had a degree in journalism... sana naman nagamit nya yung pinagaralan to have broader and more whole perspective with her article seeing how sensitive it is. The article was extremely one sided, she could have broaden the article by adding point of views of other experts that divert from the opinion of her resource person.
walang masama sa article. it's just that, maraming opinionated na tao at walang tama o maling opinyon. to each his own. ang mahalaga, kalawakan ng pag-iisip at unawa sa kapwa. there, pang miss congeniality ang sagot ko. peace to all mankind!
Excerpt from her article: It was a sensitive topic handled with care. My co-hosts Edu Manzano, Amy Perez, Chiqui Roa-Puno and I shared the same view: That gayness is not a plague. That if one of our sons turns out to be gay, we were unanimous in saying that “We shall accept and love our sons just the same, just as much.” - Pakibasa po muna bago magreact. Wala po siang hinahamak.
It is just unbeleivable how the so-called experts in pinas are so ignorant and outdated in their knowledge.
That psychologist is so wrong. Her ideas are so out of date. Nakakhiya syang tawaging psychologist.
Yes, her ideas are so Freudian. Makaluma na and already obsolete considering other new schools of thought in psychology like Cultural Psych, Evolutionary Psych, let alone Neuro Psych. Tell her to read the latest journal articles. -- PhD candidate
11:50 At mas marunong ka pa sa akin? - Camille, MD, PhD (not a candidate)
wala yatang gay friends si Mrs Babao? Di muna sya nagresearch sa mga bakla...dapat nag undergo muna sya ng talk with gay people...jusko pong pineapple...
pakibasa muna ang article ni tintin before ka magjudge, please lang. at pag nabasa mo eh basahin mo ulit para makalimutan mo muna ang opinion ni leah at pakiintindi ulit ng malama mo ung sinasabi mo.
article nya yan e yan ung opinion nya.. bakit sya kailangang awayin.. kung buburahin nya yan or magaapology sya at magpapadikta sya sa opinion ng iba e di wag na syang magsulat. kaya nga may freedom of expression. opinion nya as a mom cgro yan kahit ako hanggang maaga habang pwede pang itama, itatama ko. pero syempre kapag naexhaust na ang lahat ng efforts at lumaki na un anak mo.. makakapagdesisyon na sa sarili yan e di sya mamili. sya naman ang mananagot nun at maninindigan sa pinili nyang direksyon. di nmn kelangan agad agad uusok ang ilong kada nlang may negative.. negative nga eh. sos ko sakit lang sa bangs yan. ang importante e un ikaw bilang tao kung ano un ginagawa mo at nabibigay mo sa bansa at sa kapwa mo.
take it as it is! end of story! lol
Ang EPAL talaga ni LEA SALONGA mahilig din makisawsaw sa issue eh no? wala naman akong nabasang masama sa article ni Tin Tin. Lea ayan ka nanaman sige comment ng comment NGA NGA ka naman kapag pinatutsadahan ka! Di ba Wiliie Revillame?
Eh wala nmn masama sa opinion ni Tin2, sus! masyado nmn mga sensitive itong mga beki na 'to! Kung uunawaing mabuti wala nmn talagang discriminatory dun. Eh talaga nmn kung sa bible pagbabasehan talaga sa totoo lang ayw ni God ang practices ng mga gays, like sexual encounter to same sex. common people yun talaga ang bawal at hindi maganda sa paningin nya, nasa bible yan sa Leviticus,eh kaya nga nya ginunaw ang city of Sodom and Gomorrah dhil sa labis na ginagawa ng mga tao don before!. o alam ko may mga kokontra dito mga opinion nilang iba't iba, but that's the truth! Bibliya na nakasulat! So talagang totoo talaga. unless na magsisi at talikuran nila ang kanilang mga sexual practices eh hindi talaga gusto ni God yun. God loves the people but not the sin.
There is nothing wrong with Tintin's article. She is just sharing her parenting style. We all have our own parenting style and no one can ever question that. she never condemned the LGBT. I believe yung mga magulang na dito lalo na mga nanay naiinitindihan sya. We will always love and accept our kids, pero it is our responsibility to explain to them the reality and guide them the best way we can.
I don't see anything wrong with the article of Mrs. Babao. I myself would not want a gay child but if ever, I would really have to accept. I have a sibling who's gay. Even though my mom accepts him for who he is, she still hopes that he will marry and eventually have kids. You don't have to be gay to be an expert.living and being with gay people will make you understand more why and how they turned out to be who they are. Predisposition to being gay plus environmental factors will mold the person. You have to remember, most gay men have no or little or terrible father figure. They have stronger bond with women and mother figures. Only righteous or feeling smart people think that they should have a say. Some people pretend that they are opn minded, but really they are more narrow minded... Ms lea salonga kumanta ka na Lang. Di porke magaling mag English eh smart na or know it all na.
Can't agree more... Kudos. Sana mabasa nya o may magpabasa sa kanya sa nito
Very well said
Sino ba naman kasi itong Dr. Camille Garcia? Gender expert ba to? Napaka-sinauna ang mga paniniwala ng impaktang to!
Bakit ba ang hilig ni Lea na sumawsaw sa ganitong issue? Nagpapalakas sa mga gays or simply pakialamera lang? Choose your battles, Lea. Especially if you know nothing about a certain topic.
Kaya hindi umasenso ang career ni tintin kasi mababaw ang pagtingin nya sa issue
I really think Lea should stop and think before commenting like that..especially in IG or FB...tsk! It normally spreads like wildfire and it really does not look favorable towards her. She often comes off as a know it all and rubs off the wrong way to so many people.
Tin-Tin was just expressing her own thoughts about the issue. She wasn't trying to be mean or anything but was actually giving an option to help just in case. I am gay and I don't really find it offensive. She was just being a mother. The doctor, on the other hand should be hanged. Lea has a point as well. Whoever the doctor was, unless she is gay, wouldn't know anything about it. She may have a PhD in Psychology but there's a big difference between reading about it, studying about it, and living the life. She should read Husserl's Somatology and Life Science. Inferences doesn't necessarily mean that it is the absolute truth.
why does Lea Salonga always have something to say to almost all issues..i love her talent but i really do not like her personality...seems to me she always sounds soo righteous...i found nothing offensive sa article naman...
Lea can be so full of herself sometimes. Te, wala ka ring monopoly on what is right or wrong.
Lea, move on! Everyone knows about your feud with Tintin since your high school days! Bitter ka teh, hahaha!
ano ba away na yan..hehe maganda i-BI yan ah..
3:38 Lea was the salutatorian, while Tintin was the valedictorian. High school drama lang ang peg, di ba?
Lea ,please read the article before you react. You are parent din dapat alam mo.. walang sinabing disease or whatever..sawsawira ka..
Korek! Agree ako sayo!
the writer of the article has tackled a very sensitive topic which i suppose she is already aware of, so given that fact she should be ready to take all the reactions that the readers would have after reading her article may it be good or bad. she should also bare in mind that she is living in a country inhabited by very sensitive people that would always have something to say in every opinion that she has so criticisms and violent reactions would always be normal.queer but not offended.i am not offended but there are statements in the article that i disagree with particularly those that were said by the interviewed psychologist. i am gay and i am the only one who knows how it feels to be in my shoes and in other lgbt members' shoes, i do not claim to be an expert but i also do not think to have insufficient knowledge regarding this issue.
lea salonga's gesture of defending the lgbt community is very much appreciated, she may not have the accurate opinion with this issue but the mere gesture of doing what she thinks is right for others is priceless.way the go ms. lea.