It’s always Liza Soberano vs. Pinoy culture. She really went to Hollywood just to become the biggest critic of Filipino traits. She never misses a chance to talk about the negative sides of our culture in her interviews.
Sa isang mabuting tao, hindi na kailangang iimpose at idemand ang utang na loob, ikaw mismo sa sarili mo alam mo kung ano ang nagawa ng isang tao para sa iyo, magkusa ka ng tumanaw, again "tumanaw" hindi magbayad. Magkaiba yun.
It wasn't about utang na loob talaga. It was how she left. I followed her interviews and statements. At first I sympathize with her, kasi nakakarelate ng onti about dun sa feeling niya na cage siya. Tapos noong paulit ulit na, narealize ko yung inconsistencies niya.
First, the maya campaign ad. Naging overdramatic yung vlog niya tapos parang naging for marketing lang pala. Sa vlog niya, she kinda implied she didn't like na they decided to give her the screen name "Liza", then proceed to wanting to be called Hope. Yet, di naman nagwork rebranding niya because "Liza" worked for her.
2nd, regarding about Loveteam. She was right about the toxicity of this culture. However, what I don't like was her "telling the truth" were half lies. Sabi niya she felt caged because of LizQuen. But it was her who actually refused her partner to be paired with someone else. Sabi niya HLG was originally meant for them but because she was still working with Bagani and Darna, she told them to wait. Kaso gusto na ata simulan yung movie, kaya si Enrique nalang ata ang tutuloy and si Kathryn na nga daw ang FL. Tapos si Liza ang hindi pumayag kasi it scared her because LQ was her comfort zone.
3rd, being involved with that scammer guy. Naalala ko pa sinabi ni guy about her being cast as MJ in Spiderman. Tapos when James split from that person, she unfollowed James while still following Oh.
It was never about utang na loob. It was more about how she keeps trashing a system she also greatly benefited from.
Toxic talaga love team culture for sure. But so is local showbiz's bias toward halfies. So is nepotism. And so is the industry's tendency to favor looks over talent. She was handed projects other actresses deserved more (Trese, Bagani) because of the fame from her being in a love team and being a management favorite — and we don't see her complaining about those. She felt bad na hindi welcome yung creative input niya, but that's just not part of her job as an actress, and honestly, she might have been overstepping at points. She felt bad she wasn't allowed to venture outside a love team, but maybe people around her just didn't see her a strong enough actress to do so. And those people might have been right at the time. (Again, look at Trese.)
I also just find it exhausting how she keeps fanning the flames with side comments (in interviews, in her Maya ads, etc.)as if she wants to keep dragging the issue out, when it already died down. For someone doing relatively well, I jist don't find her very gracious.
mas malala pa nga US culture and hollywood issues kaysa sa pinas. walang pumipilit sa kanya if ayaw nya sa pinas, puro pintas eh nakinabang naman sya sa pinas entertainment. sumikat kasi mestiza halfie kahit mediocre naman sa acting
I think I disagree with her on this. It's a question of fairness for me. I wouldn't trust someone who feels it's ok not to reciprocate a favor received from another. If you feel like you don't want to be indebted to someone, then don't accept their help even if it's offered. It's unfair not to give back if you benefitted from someone's help.
She has mestiza privilege. Something that she did not criticize.
Yung nastuck siya sa love team, skill issue na yun.
Many love team artists eventually get non-love team movies like drama and horror like Juday, Marvin Agustin, Enchong Dee, Claudine, Gerald Anderson, Kim Chiu etc.
5.05 You are treating basic human relationships like a corporate ledger. Trust shouldn't be built on a system where everyone is keeping score of who owes what. If you assist a friend or family member, do you do it because you care about them, or do you do it to buy leverage over their future? True fairness means treating people with respect, not holding a past favor over their head forever. Furthermore, saying 'don’t accept help if you don't want to be indebted' is incredibly privileged. People in desperate situations (like a medical emergency or extreme poverty) don't have the luxury of interviewing their helper about future expectations. When Liza talks about unlearning utang na loob, she means unlearning the toxic expectation that a past good deed buys you a lifetime of control over someone else's life.
Hi 4:04 its me 1:42 lol sa haba ng lament mo all I can say "she was asked the question" and she just answered that question...alang naman yan ang tanong sa kanya tapos sagot niya irrelevant sa tanong and shes also entitled to her own opinion gets mo lol and again utang na loob is kabaduyan
yes, she never absorbed the filipino culture. may pro and cons yan. pero kung filipino target nya as supporters then shen needs to unlearn din para di mayabang ang dating
Everything she has raised are relevant naman talaga. However, nagcringe padin ako, kasi coming from her. Di ko talaga siya maituring na immersed sa culture natin, yung criticisms niya ang dating eh talagang victim siya ng culture, walang ownership ng culture. May difference eh. You can correct these toxicities while being proudly Filipino because we also have such a rich culture.... hilaw na hilaw siya for these topics sana ahe can answer more gracefully despite her experiences, it won't help her career for now!
That's her...but most children who love their parents willingly recoprocate out of love and they are happy to be able to do so while their parents are still with them.
But that’s not her case. She was the breadwinner and that poor kid worked instead of her parents. She endured abuse from her mom’s bf. So you can’t blame her but she’s quite right. That utang na loob is being used way beyond of what it truly means, hence, it has become toxic. When you help, you help without expecting anything in return. Period.
Eh di hindi na utang na loob yang pinagsasabi mo. The mutual reciprocation of love is not equal to utang na loob which is literally in the phrase na it is a debt that should be paid.
Negatibong enterpretasyon lang ang naiintindihan nya wala naman masama tumanaw ng utang na loob.giving back exist in other culture. Ayaw pa kasi nya sabihin n gusto n nya itakwil ang pagiging Pinoy nya.
5:34 didn’t mention na hindi siya nagtrabaho. Issue here is utang na loob. She’s lucky and bless because may mga tao din nag help and fans. Iba meaning na loob sa kanya.
Tingin ko lagi siya nasasabihan walang utang na loob. Kaya naging nega na si Ate mo.
4.43 Bakit tuwing usapang tulong sa pamilya, parang ginagawang investment o insurance policy ang tao? Ang tunay na respeto at pagmamahal ng pamilya, nakukuha sa maayos na relasyon hindi dahil may 'utang' silang kailangang bayaran sa iyo habambuhay. Kung tumutulong ka lang para may sumunod at rumespeto sa iyo pagtanda mo, transaksyon ang tawag doon, hindi pagmamahal. Mas masarap tumanda na alam mong nirespeto ka ng pamilya mo dahil mahal ka nila, hindi dahil takot silang masumbatan.
10:23 you think may respeto pa family ni Liza if wala na syang pakinabang sa kanila? you live in the ideal world. Kaya si Liza naging nega kasi sa karanasan nga sa childhood and family responsibilities kaso sa iba nya sinisisi. She’s not healed, and her resentment towards her past is clear.
Hindi lang naman sa Pinas nangyayari ito. Unfortunately, it's everywhere. Pero I wouldn't give my all sanity to something I cannot change. You can tantrums all you want, but you cannot just change anything just because you made a statement about it. Grow up.
How many times has she been interviewed and answered this same question? Why does she keep bringing it up? She built her career and received her acting training in the Philippines, yet she continues to speak negatively about Filipino culture. Why doesn’t she talk about the negative traits of American culture with the same energy?
Why don’t you watch the entire video. Here we go, only commenting based on the title, without understanding or researching the entire context. What she said was actually beautiful.
I’ve watched the video. This is already the third or fourth time I’ve heard her bring up the same “utang na loob” narrative. Gasgas na gasgas na. She built her career in the Philippines with the support of Filipinos and now she’s banking on Filipino culture again with this film knowing Filipinos will be a huge part of the audience supporting it. Show a little gratitude.
4.05 Bringing up American culture is just a distraction from the actual issue. American culture is heavily criticized globally every single day by Americans and non-Americans alike for its hyper-individualism, toxic hustle culture, and lack of social safety nets. Liza talking about that wouldn't change anything for Filipinos. She speaks about utang na loob because it is a unique, deeply ingrained pressure that affects the mental health and financial freedom of millions of Filipino breadwinners and youth. Deflecting to another country's problems doesn't make our own cultural flaws disappear. We should focus on fixing our own house instead of pointing at the neighbor's.
Hindi nga marunong magpakita ng gratitude si Liza utang na loob pa kaya. Ang utang na loob ay isang malalim na obligasyon na tumanaw at sumukli ng kabutihan sa taong tumulong sa iyo, samantalang ang gratitude (o pasasalamat) ay isang kusang damdamin o pagkilala sa kabutihan nang walang kasamang bigat o sapilitang kabayaran
Ung Punto na sa harap mo na, hindi mo pa tin maunawaan.
There's nothing inherently wrong with utang na loob provided that the intent is good. Unfortunately, it has been made into a tool that gaslights people into servitude
5.02 Sabi mo nga, ang gratitude ay walang dalang bigat o sapilitang kabayaran, habang ang utang na loob ay may 'malalim na obligasyon na sumukli.' Kaya nga gustong ipa-unlearn ni Liza yan, kasi bakit kailangang maging mabigat? Kung tinulungan mo ang isang tao dahil mahal mo siya, hindi mo siya dadaanin sa 'obligasyon.' Ang tunay na pagtulong ay walang invoice o resibo. Deserve ng mga tao na magpasalamat nang bukal sa loob, hindi dahil sa bigat ng obligasyon at takot na masumbatan.
if somebody saved my life, or saved me from a very frightening situation that could cost my life, or my family, I will never forget it and will forever be grateful for that somebody. Tatanawin kong utang na loob yon sa taong nagligtas sa akin. Di naman siguro masama if itutuloy natin yong ganon, yong being thankful and grateful. Lalo na kung mabuti naman syang tao at hindi ginagamit yong ginawa nya to her/his benefit or advantage. Now if yong taong yon naman ang mangailangan ng tulong and may capacity naman akong tulungan sya, I would gladly do so, as a way of showing my gratitude sa ginawa nya sa akin. Ibang usapan na if ginagamit nya yong ginawa nya para i 'hostage' ka or para isumbat sayo in exchange for something, lalo na kung sumosobra naman na. May hangganan din naman.
Right. Parang she is annoyed to be grateful all the time. Mere recognition and respect are sometimes what's needed. Sa kanya siguro, if nagpasalamat na ako, that's enough, wala na akong atraso sa yo. Parang yun ang gusto nyang rule in life. If may issue sya with being used by her auntie and/or manager, she has promoted being grateful marking it as utang na loob in a generally wrong way. Parang naging hateful and bitter sya about the concept of being helped. She likes to prove that she has worked her way to success and popularity by mere talent and hard work.
Malaki naman talaga ang utang na loob ni Liza sa ABS-CBN at sa mga naging managers niya. Hindi siya dumaan sa traditional artista search na pinaghirapan from the ground up—she had the looks, but the industry gave her the platform, opportunities, and push that made her a star. If she wants to move on, then move on. Pero kung paulit-ulit niyang binabalikan ang past, maybe the issue isn’t the past anymore, it’s how she chooses to carry it. ang nega nya for someone who aims for hollywood career eh mas malala nga systema dun.
Nah. Utang na loob is actually a beautiful trait. Don't you want to give back to people who helped you in the past? Ang sarap kaya sa feeling nun. It only becomes toxic when it is demanded. That being said, it is not a wholly negative trait na you can say it has to be unlearned. Kung ayaw mo tumanaw ng utang na loob, eh di wag. But to speak of it negatively is just not right.
6.33 The problem is in the literal phrase itself: 'utang' means debt. By definition, a debt is a transaction that requires a repayment, and it stays active until the lender decides it's paid off. When we say we want to unlearn utang na loob, we aren't saying we should stop giving back or being grateful. We want to unlearn the feeling of transactional indebtedness. If you give back because you genuinely want to out of love, that’s called gratitude or mutual care. We should replace utang na loob with genuine gratitude, because real kindness shouldn't come with an invisible ledger.
Tama naman siya. Kung tutulong ka don't expect something in return. Kasi di yun totoong tulong. Although nasa tao na yan kung tanawin niyang utang na loob for the rest of her/his life.
Sa tingin mo ba ang mga taong nasa loob ng showbiz industry ay tumutulong lang talaga out of good will? LOLOL trabaho po nila iyon, at gusto nilang mapakinabangan ang investments nila sa stars… nakakaloka.
10:53 business contract naman meron sila duh pero if priority ka ng network kahit mediocre talent ka lang like Liza eh dapat talaga pasalamatan nya yun mga nagpush sa kanya
12:46 THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE REMAIN A POOR COUNTRY BECAUSE WE CHOOSE TO ALWAYS LOOK AT THE BRIGHT SIDE OF THINGS AT HINDI NABIBIGYAN NG IMPROVEMENT IYONG MGA BAGAY NA KAILANGAN ITAMA OR I-IMPROVE.
Hindi naman talaga makikitaan ng utang na loob ang isang taong wala nun. Tama naman din na kapag nagbigay ka wag kang magexpect ng kapalit. Pero Liza, hindi naman nga requirement ang utang na loob para maging mabuting tao. Pero para sa mga marunong nun at may kusang tumanaw that is a strength more than a weakness. That is character. It will say so much of your morals. Utang na loob is more than gratefulness. It is respect. Hindi yan hinihingi. Kusang binibigay yan. Kung wala ka nun, ayos lang naman dapat talaga. Pero nakakaproud ba sabihin yun? Hindi naman din. Yang script mo na yan, spiel yan ng mga nasumbatan, speech yan ng mga tao na thinking so highly of themselves. Mga biktima ng mga hinahanapan ng kapalit. Okay ka naman as an actress. Baka hindi na nga mga Pinoy lang ang market mo kaya okay lang magsalita ng ganito. Pero enough na sa mga ganitong bitaw which if misinterpreted, comes of as arrogance. Be humble nalang. It will go a long way. Plus, mas nakakaganda yun inside and out.
Very touching naman at napaka on point ng sinabi mo. Kaso hindi siya ganun, arrogante at ingrata talaga siya. Nabubog kasi ng hindi niya masayang childhood. Tapos nasilaw sa pagsamba sa kanya ng mga Pinoy noon.
Siya talaga yung literal na Filipino baiter. Tapos gusto niya pang i-unlearn natin yung utang na loob? Hindi lang naman si Ogie Diaz ang tumulong sa kanya. Ang laking ambag ng fans niya kung bakit siya naging successful despite her lack of acting skills.
12.49 I understand that in an ideal world, utang na loob is given freely out of respect and character. But we have to look at the cultural reality. Liza isn’t attacking genuine gratitude; she is attacking how utang na loob is weaponized as a tool for lifelong emotional blackmail. When parents or relatives use 'tinaguyod kita' or 'tinulungan kita' to dictate a person's life choices, career, or finances forever, it stops being about 'character' and becomes transactional control. Setting boundaries to protect your mental health and future isn't arrogance or a lack of morals—it’s breaking a cycle of codependency. You can be deeply grateful and humble without allowing your life to be permanently owned by the people who helped you.
Dati pa yan problematic ang mga hanash sa twitter. Natatawa nga ako sa level ng mga sinasabi nya. Ang batabata pa that time, nagpapakaomnoscient. Magaling lang magtakip at magdivert si ogie para malinis ang image. I guess yan ang isang knabubwisit ni liza sa kanya pano pnapatahimik sya lalo na sa twitter. Ngayon she’s free to do and say whatever. Kaya unang pagkalas pa lang k ogie sumabog na ang true liza haha.
E kayo ba grateful sa mga pagtitiis ni Liza? Diba sumaya at kinilig din kayo sa mga serye at movies nya with LT? Hindi naman basta isalang lang yun sympre may effort din dun at kailangn sipagan mo mgpromote at umarte sa camera.
If you have respectfully shown gratefulness enough, the one you thought you were indebted to would even tell you to forget about it. Nagkaka problema lang if may ingratang kaganapan.
The public will understand her kung talagang inapi sya ng manager and tv station pero wala naman kasing nangyaring ganun. In fact, she is the priority kaya unfair yung mga reklamo nya. If there are some things na hindi nya nagustuhan like let's say na stuck sya sa loveteam, i think it is best na wag nya na sabihin out loud dahil sya mismo, alam naman nya na mas less risk and high return yung strategy na yun kaysa mag solo sya. i think din na may something wrong kay girl..parang hindi sya ganun katalino and narcissist..she cannot read a room.
Bakit ba dpat si Liza lagi ang magpasalamat? Andon na tayo sa tinulungan sya ng network, pero hindi ba nagtrabaho din sya for them? Naging puppet din sya at pinatulan nya ang loveteam para sumikat? Yes kasi isang step yon para sumikat pareho silang nakinabang. Tigil nyo kaka ungrateful dahil kayo lang yun. Kahit nagiba na ng landas si Liza never sya nanira shes always talk with all honesty, nasasaktan kayo kasi real talk abt sa loveteam cuture wherein step lang sya para sumikat pero hindi for long term. Madami talagang gimik don same story, concept kailangan mgpakilig. Where is the lie? Ngayon Liza just want to try other things nagaglit kayo. Makasarili lang kayo mga bashers kasi You just always want Liza to fail. Aminin nyo na lang.
puno ng resentment sa buhay idol mo.. eh mas marami naman mas magaling kay Liza pero she’s given priority and marketed well. tapos sukang suka na akala mo without those people in the past, she can make it big.
in the first place sa america nga sya nagka trauma ng childhood pero sa pinas showbiz system/ culture nya lahat sinisi ang mga issues nya sa buhay. Si Liza/family nya ang lumalit para magkaron ng management support, siya din kumapit sa dating LT at ayaw bitawan for clout tapos when goods na sya umalis, panay paninira sa past na akala mo super talented like Lea Salonga level ang contribution sa industry. Delulu pa mga fantards. Inuuto na nga kayo ayaw pa gumising!
She clearly does not underatand the principle of "Utang na loob" because in essence, it is "gratefulness in action". It is not necessarily repaying the good favor done to you. It is also about not causing any wrongdoing to the one who had helped you. Siguro nagsawa sya kasi sinasabihan sya ng walang utang na loob kasi hindi naging maganda separation nya with her former manager.
That's why I don't want to support this Forgotten Island movie because the main cast is not a true Filipina and seems to harbor bitterness with us when in reality, the Philippines only made her rich and famous and stuck in a loveteam but America gave her childhood trauma but she doesn't hate the US.
1:22, Stop lying. Kung totoong hindi nya hiningi maging rich and famous, hindi sana pag-aartista ang kinuha nyang career kundi maging ordinaryong manggagawa lang sa kumpanya. She only became famous because she is half-white. Liza should lecture Filipinos instead to stop treating half-whites like her like Gods. It's much more pathetic than utang na loob.
If ph made her rich ibig sabihin nagsikap si Liza para makuha yon. Pumayag sya sa loveteam2x pero hindi ba pwede na maging independent habang tumatanda ka? Ganyan kasi kakitid utak nyo gustyo nyo mastuck sa isng bagay tapos ibabash nyo rin na wlang talent
I feel that the term “utang na loob” has been misconstrued. For me, it is a sense of gratitude and appreciation of all the people who have helped you along the way. It is like a reminder not to lose that sense of being thankful that there were people who have helped you, in one way or another, achieved where you are today. The word “utang” in the term utang na loob should be interpreted as paying it forward, spreading the kindness and help that was handed out to you. Obligasyon natin na maging mabuting tao. Pwede rin magkaron ng utang na loob hindi sa tao kundi sa ating bansa :)
To "Unlearn" something means you are capable of "Learning" :D :D :D Have you seen the corrupt politicians being voted for every single election for the past 20 years? ;) ;) ;) There's your answer right there :) :) :)
Kung lahat kayo galit kay Liza dahil walang utang na loob kamo.edi wag na kayo magbash ng kahit sinong local celebrities natin dito sa Pinas? Also lahat ng may loveteam serye or movie suportahan at ipa block buster nyo. Kiligin kayo at dapat lahat ng loveteams magkatuluyan. Wag na kayo manuod ng mga hollywood films. Mga ipokrito't ipokritas.
11:10 may mga kuda din si lea sa bansa natin like liza. kayo lang makkitid ang utak ayaw ma real talk. Isa pa si Liza ang iniinterview jan at kau nag aabang sa bawat interviews nya kaya sya ang representative.
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Well totoo naman. The kabaduyang "utang na loob" is giving kacheapan
ReplyDeleteIt’s always Liza Soberano vs. Pinoy culture. She really went to Hollywood just to become the biggest critic of Filipino traits. She never misses a chance to talk about the negative sides of our culture in her interviews.
DeleteSa isang mabuting tao, hindi na kailangang iimpose at idemand ang utang na loob, ikaw mismo sa sarili mo alam mo kung ano ang nagawa ng isang tao para sa iyo, magkusa ka ng tumanaw, again "tumanaw" hindi magbayad. Magkaiba yun.
DeleteIt wasn't about utang na loob talaga. It was how she left. I followed her interviews and statements. At first I sympathize with her, kasi nakakarelate ng onti about dun sa feeling niya na cage siya. Tapos noong paulit ulit na, narealize ko yung inconsistencies niya.
DeleteFirst, the maya campaign ad. Naging overdramatic yung vlog niya tapos parang naging for marketing lang pala. Sa vlog niya, she kinda implied she didn't like na they decided to give her the screen name "Liza", then proceed to wanting to be called Hope. Yet, di naman nagwork rebranding niya because "Liza" worked for her.
2nd, regarding about Loveteam. She was right about the toxicity of this culture. However, what I don't like was her "telling the truth" were half lies. Sabi niya she felt caged because of LizQuen. But it was her who actually refused her partner to be paired with someone else. Sabi niya HLG was originally meant for them but because she was still working with Bagani and Darna, she told them to wait. Kaso gusto na ata simulan yung movie, kaya si Enrique nalang ata ang tutuloy and si Kathryn na nga daw ang FL. Tapos si Liza ang hindi pumayag kasi it scared her because LQ was her comfort zone.
3rd, being involved with that scammer guy. Naalala ko pa sinabi ni guy about her being cast as MJ in Spiderman. Tapos when James split from that person, she unfollowed James while still following Oh.
It was never about utang na loob. It was more about how she keeps trashing a system she also greatly benefited from.
DeleteToxic talaga love team culture for sure. But so is local showbiz's bias toward halfies. So is nepotism. And so is the industry's tendency to favor looks over talent. She was handed projects other actresses deserved more (Trese, Bagani) because of the fame from her being in a love team and being a management favorite — and we don't see her complaining about those. She felt bad na hindi welcome yung creative input niya, but that's just not part of her job as an actress, and honestly, she might have been overstepping at points. She felt bad she wasn't allowed to venture outside a love team, but maybe people around her just didn't see her a strong enough actress to do so. And those people might have been right at the time. (Again, look at Trese.)
I also just find it exhausting how she keeps fanning the flames with side comments (in interviews, in her Maya ads, etc.)as if she wants to keep dragging the issue out, when it already died down. For someone doing relatively well, I jist don't find her very gracious.
mas malala pa nga US culture and hollywood issues kaysa sa pinas.
Deletewalang pumipilit sa kanya if ayaw nya sa pinas, puro pintas eh nakinabang naman sya sa pinas entertainment. sumikat kasi mestiza halfie kahit mediocre naman sa acting
I think I disagree with her on this. It's a question of fairness for me. I wouldn't trust someone who feels it's ok not to reciprocate a favor received from another. If you feel like you don't want to be indebted to someone, then don't accept their help even if it's offered. It's unfair not to give back if you benefitted from someone's help.
DeleteShe has mestiza privilege. Something that she did not criticize.
DeleteYung nastuck siya sa love team, skill issue na yun.
Many love team artists eventually get non-love team movies like drama and horror like Juday, Marvin Agustin, Enchong Dee, Claudine, Gerald Anderson, Kim Chiu etc.
Liza is not really a good actress sa totoo lang.
5.05 You are treating basic human relationships like a corporate ledger. Trust shouldn't be built on a system where everyone is keeping score of who owes what. If you assist a friend or family member, do you do it because you care about them, or do you do it to buy leverage over their future? True fairness means treating people with respect, not holding a past favor over their head forever. Furthermore, saying 'don’t accept help if you don't want to be indebted' is incredibly privileged. People in desperate situations (like a medical emergency or extreme poverty) don't have the luxury of interviewing their helper about future expectations. When Liza talks about unlearning utang na loob, she means unlearning the toxic expectation that a past good deed buys you a lifetime of control over someone else's life.
DeleteHi 4:04 its me 1:42 lol sa haba ng lament mo all I can say "she was asked the question" and she just answered that question...alang naman yan ang tanong sa kanya tapos sagot niya irrelevant sa tanong and shes also entitled to her own opinion gets mo lol and again utang na loob is kabaduyan
DeleteParang flop movie nya
Delete7:52 Jinx at Nega kasi si Liza at hindi naman sya kasi sikat internationally.
DeleteI'm not a fan, and she is not wrong.
ReplyDeleteWell no wonder pala wala siyang utang na loob sa Pinoy fans niya.
Delete5:31, andyan na ung point dinaplisan mo pa
DeletePabor kse sa kanya ung unlearn suggestion nya. Hahahaha. Inggrata!
DeleteUtang na loob is not the antonym of being inggrata in this context.
DeleteShe has a point.
DeleteLabasan agad mga basher niya. Nakahanap na naman ng magandang tiyempo para i-bash siya lol
DeleteShes not naman Filipino shes american
ReplyDeleteShes half Filipina
Deleteyes, she never absorbed the filipino culture. may pro and cons yan. pero kung filipino target nya as supporters then shen needs to unlearn din para di mayabang ang dating
Delete2:42 Half Filipina when its convenient
DeleteWell sorry sya sa Pilipinas sya umasam ng kaginhawaan. Sana di na lang sya dito nangarap para wala sanang utang na loo syan ili-learned.
DeleteEverything she has raised are relevant naman talaga. However, nagcringe padin ako, kasi coming from her. Di ko talaga siya maituring na immersed sa culture natin, yung criticisms niya ang dating eh talagang victim siya ng culture, walang ownership ng culture. May difference eh. You can correct these toxicities while being proudly Filipino because we also have such a rich culture.... hilaw na hilaw siya for these topics sana ahe can answer more gracefully despite her experiences, it won't help her career for now!
Delete5:08 she now has a fulfilling career now
DeleteThat's her...but most children who love their parents willingly recoprocate out of love and they are happy to be able to do so while their parents are still with them.
ReplyDeleteI guess ang target nya ay mga high and mighty na minsan nakatulong kala mo na kung sino papamukha ang nagawa nila for you.
DeleteBut that’s not her case. She was the breadwinner and that poor kid worked instead of her parents. She endured abuse from her mom’s bf. So you can’t blame her but she’s quite right. That utang na loob is being used way beyond of what it truly means, hence, it has become toxic. When you help, you help without expecting anything in return. Period.
DeleteEh di hindi na utang na loob yang pinagsasabi mo. The mutual reciprocation of love is not equal to utang na loob which is literally in the phrase na it is a debt that should be paid.
DeleteUtang na loob. Tantanan nyo na ang pag iisip na ganito. Enough and move on na dapat.
Delete1:58 its not! At all!
DeleteGrabe pag overthink niyo hahahaha
DeleteSobrang affected kayo sa bawat salita na binibitawan ni Liza
Kaya wala siya utang na loob sa mga Filipino fans
ReplyDeleteTumpak!
Delete2:42 she worked hard naman. As if hindi sya nagtrabaho at all.
DeleteNegatibong enterpretasyon lang ang naiintindihan nya wala naman masama tumanaw ng utang na loob.giving back exist in other culture. Ayaw pa kasi nya sabihin n gusto n nya itakwil ang pagiging Pinoy nya.
Delete5:34 didn’t mention na hindi siya nagtrabaho. Issue here is utang na loob. She’s lucky and bless because may mga tao din nag help and fans. Iba meaning na loob sa kanya.
DeleteTingin ko lagi siya nasasabihan walang utang na loob. Kaya naging nega na si Ate mo.
KAYA WAG NYO NA SYANG ASAHAN TO BE GRATEFUL hahahhah INGRATAAAAA
Delete3:09 🤣🤣🤣
DeleteVery classy and smart Liza
ReplyDeletesquammy ang ganyan sa ibang bansa hindi very classy and smart
Delete5:25 anong squammy? pinagsasabi mo
Deletedelulu! kapag nasa 40s na si Liza wag syang magdrama na hindi sya nirespeto ng mga taong natulungan nya in the past ha.. lalo sa family nya.
Delete4.43 Bakit tuwing usapang tulong sa pamilya, parang ginagawang investment o insurance policy ang tao? Ang tunay na respeto at pagmamahal ng pamilya, nakukuha sa maayos na relasyon hindi dahil may 'utang' silang kailangang bayaran sa iyo habambuhay. Kung tumutulong ka lang para may sumunod at rumespeto sa iyo pagtanda mo, transaksyon ang tawag doon, hindi pagmamahal. Mas masarap tumanda na alam mong nirespeto ka ng pamilya mo dahil mahal ka nila, hindi dahil takot silang masumbatan.
Delete10:23 you think may respeto pa family ni Liza if wala na syang pakinabang sa kanila? you live in the ideal world. Kaya si Liza naging nega kasi sa karanasan nga sa childhood and family responsibilities kaso sa iba nya sinisisi. She’s not healed, and her resentment towards her past is clear.
DeleteThis is true.but some people do not look at that way but paying forward.
ReplyDeleteHindi lang naman sa Pinas nangyayari ito. Unfortunately, it's everywhere. Pero I wouldn't give my all sanity to something I cannot change. You can tantrums all you want, but you cannot just change anything just because you made a statement about it. Grow up.
ReplyDeleteShe’s more matured than you based from your comment
Deletekorek, hindi namn sa pinas lang yan. even in EU may ganyan
DeleteHow many times has she been interviewed and answered this same question? Why does she keep bringing it up? She built her career and received her acting training in the Philippines, yet she continues to speak negatively about Filipino culture. Why doesn’t she talk about the negative traits of American culture with the same energy?
ReplyDeleteWhy don’t you watch the entire video. Here we go, only commenting based on the title, without understanding or researching the entire context. What she said was actually beautiful.
DeleteYou actually as of there are no negative Filipino traits. Kung natamaan ka pasensya na lang
DeleteI’ve watched the video. This is already the third or fourth time I’ve heard her bring up the same “utang na loob” narrative. Gasgas na gasgas na. She built her career in the Philippines with the support of Filipinos and now she’s banking on Filipino culture again with this film knowing Filipinos will be a huge part of the audience supporting it. Show a little gratitude.
DeleteKse sya ang perfect example ng walang utang na loob. Kaya gusto nya ma cancel. Sama ng ugali ni ateng talaga
Delete4.05 Bringing up American culture is just a distraction from the actual issue. American culture is heavily criticized globally every single day by Americans and non-Americans alike for its hyper-individualism, toxic hustle culture, and lack of social safety nets. Liza talking about that wouldn't change anything for Filipinos. She speaks about utang na loob because it is a unique, deeply ingrained pressure that affects the mental health and financial freedom of millions of Filipino breadwinners and youth. Deflecting to another country's problems doesn't make our own cultural flaws disappear. We should focus on fixing our own house instead of pointing at the neighbor's.
DeleteHindi nga marunong magpakita ng gratitude si Liza utang na loob pa kaya. Ang utang na loob ay isang malalim na obligasyon na tumanaw at sumukli ng kabutihan sa taong tumulong sa iyo, samantalang ang gratitude (o pasasalamat) ay isang kusang damdamin o pagkilala sa kabutihan nang walang kasamang bigat o sapilitang kabayaran
ReplyDeleteUng Punto na sa harap mo na, hindi mo pa tin maunawaan.
DeleteThere's nothing inherently wrong with utang na loob provided that the intent is good. Unfortunately, it has been made into a tool that gaslights people into servitude
5.02 Sabi mo nga, ang gratitude ay walang dalang bigat o sapilitang kabayaran, habang ang utang na loob ay may 'malalim na obligasyon na sumukli.' Kaya nga gustong ipa-unlearn ni Liza yan, kasi bakit kailangang maging mabigat? Kung tinulungan mo ang isang tao dahil mahal mo siya, hindi mo siya dadaanin sa 'obligasyon.' Ang tunay na pagtulong ay walang invoice o resibo. Deserve ng mga tao na magpasalamat nang bukal sa loob, hindi dahil sa bigat ng obligasyon at takot na masumbatan.
DeleteIi will have to agree
ReplyDeletewhat is there to unlearn when you haven't learnt it?
ReplyDeleteAgree
Delete@5:09 hahahahhahaha bad kaaa
Deletealam nyo na wala syang utang na loob kay wag nyong sasabihin na mahal nya pilipinas saka nya lang naaalala pag kailangan nya
ReplyDeleteif somebody saved my life, or saved me from a very frightening situation that could cost my life, or my family, I will never forget it and will forever be grateful for that somebody. Tatanawin kong utang na loob yon sa taong nagligtas sa akin. Di naman siguro masama if itutuloy natin yong ganon, yong being thankful and grateful. Lalo na kung mabuti naman syang tao at hindi ginagamit yong ginawa nya to her/his benefit or advantage. Now if yong taong yon naman ang mangailangan ng tulong and may capacity naman akong tulungan sya, I would gladly do so, as a way of showing my gratitude sa ginawa nya sa akin. Ibang usapan na if ginagamit nya yong ginawa nya para i 'hostage' ka or para isumbat sayo in exchange for something, lalo na kung sumosobra naman na. May hangganan din naman.
ReplyDeleteWhy not about you and not the others? Liza ikaw yan. At nasa tao ang pagtanaw ng utang na loob at di lang yan sa Pilipinas inday Liza!
ReplyDeleteRight. Parang she is annoyed to be grateful all the time. Mere recognition and respect are sometimes what's needed. Sa kanya siguro, if nagpasalamat na ako, that's enough, wala na akong atraso sa yo. Parang yun ang gusto nyang rule in life.
DeleteIf may issue sya with being used by her auntie and/or manager, she has promoted being grateful marking it as utang na loob in a generally wrong way. Parang naging hateful and bitter sya about the concept of being helped. She likes to prove that she has worked her way to success and popularity by mere talent and hard work.
Malaki naman talaga ang utang na loob ni Liza sa ABS-CBN at sa mga naging managers niya. Hindi siya dumaan sa traditional artista search na pinaghirapan from the ground up—she had the looks, but the industry gave her the platform, opportunities, and push that made her a star. If she wants to move on, then move on. Pero kung paulit-ulit niyang binabalikan ang past, maybe the issue isn’t the past anymore, it’s how she chooses to carry it. ang nega nya for someone who aims for hollywood career eh mas malala nga systema dun.
Deletewow naman sa accent paka arte hahahah
ReplyDeletedi naman yan pinay
ReplyDeleteNah. Utang na loob is actually a beautiful trait. Don't you want to give back to people who helped you in the past? Ang sarap kaya sa feeling nun. It only becomes toxic when it is demanded. That being said, it is not a wholly negative trait na you can say it has to be unlearned. Kung ayaw mo tumanaw ng utang na loob, eh di wag. But to speak of it negatively is just not right.
ReplyDeleteLouder 6:33PM!!!
DeleteYes. If you feel that utang na loob shouldn't be there, it goes to show na hindi ka nga grateful.
Delete6:33 IT'S A BAD TRAIT! YOU SHOULDN'T EXPECT FOR ANYTHING IN RETURN. SABI NGA NI EUGENE DOMINGO, "ONCE YOU'VE HELPED, FORGET ABOUT IT!"
DeleteGirl, you nailed it!
Delete6:33 TUMFACT!!!! This na this
Delete6:25 Please, improve your comprehension skills ateng.
Delete6:25 Naka all-caps ka pa sablay naman sa comprehension.
Delete6.33 The problem is in the literal phrase itself: 'utang' means debt. By definition, a debt is a transaction that requires a repayment, and it stays active until the lender decides it's paid off. When we say we want to unlearn utang na loob, we aren't saying we should stop giving back or being grateful. We want to unlearn the feeling of transactional indebtedness. If you give back because you genuinely want to out of love, that’s called gratitude or mutual care. We should replace utang na loob with genuine gratitude, because real kindness shouldn't come with an invisible ledger.
DeleteWala kasi syang utang na loob kaya how convient for her to say that
ReplyDelete1000%
ReplyDelete7:03 CHRUE.
DeleteTama naman siya. Kung tutulong ka don't expect something in return. Kasi di yun totoong tulong. Although nasa tao na yan kung tanawin niyang utang na loob for the rest of her/his life.
ReplyDeleteShe is rationalizing her lack of it.
Delete7:06 AGREED!
Delete2:37 ganun na nga
DeleteSa tingin mo ba ang mga taong nasa loob ng showbiz industry ay tumutulong lang talaga out of good will? LOLOL trabaho po nila iyon, at gusto nilang mapakinabangan ang investments nila sa stars… nakakaloka.
Delete10:53 business contract naman meron sila duh pero if priority ka ng network kahit mediocre talent ka lang like Liza eh dapat talaga pasalamatan nya yun mga nagpush sa kanya
DeleteAm never gonna watch her movies ever. Ingrata!
ReplyDeleteAyan na naman sya.
ReplyDeleteHay nku Liza. Why not just focus on the positive? Who are u to say n dpat bguhin mga ganyan? Eh s gusto kong tumanaw ng utang n loob eh
ReplyDelete12:46 THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE REMAIN A POOR COUNTRY BECAUSE WE CHOOSE TO ALWAYS LOOK AT THE BRIGHT SIDE OF THINGS AT HINDI NABIBIGYAN NG IMPROVEMENT IYONG MGA BAGAY NA KAILANGAN ITAMA OR I-IMPROVE.
DeleteHindi naman talaga makikitaan ng utang na loob ang isang taong wala nun. Tama naman din na kapag nagbigay ka wag kang magexpect ng kapalit. Pero Liza, hindi naman nga requirement ang utang na loob para maging mabuting tao. Pero para sa mga marunong nun at may kusang tumanaw that is a strength more than a weakness. That is character. It will say so much of your morals. Utang na loob is more than gratefulness. It is respect. Hindi yan hinihingi. Kusang binibigay yan. Kung wala ka nun, ayos lang naman dapat talaga. Pero nakakaproud ba sabihin yun? Hindi naman din. Yang script mo na yan, spiel yan ng mga nasumbatan, speech yan ng mga tao na thinking so highly of themselves. Mga biktima ng mga hinahanapan ng kapalit. Okay ka naman as an actress. Baka hindi na nga mga Pinoy lang ang market mo kaya okay lang magsalita ng ganito. Pero enough na sa mga ganitong bitaw which if misinterpreted, comes of as arrogance. Be humble nalang. It will go a long way. Plus, mas nakakaganda yun inside and out.
ReplyDeleteVery touching naman at napaka on point ng sinabi mo. Kaso hindi siya ganun, arrogante at ingrata talaga siya. Nabubog kasi ng hindi niya masayang childhood. Tapos nasilaw sa pagsamba sa kanya ng mga Pinoy noon.
DeleteSiya talaga yung literal na Filipino baiter. Tapos gusto niya pang i-unlearn natin yung utang na loob? Hindi lang naman si Ogie Diaz ang tumulong sa kanya. Ang laking ambag ng fans niya kung bakit siya naging successful despite her lack of acting skills.
Delete12.49 I understand that in an ideal world, utang na loob is given freely out of respect and character. But we have to look at the cultural reality. Liza isn’t attacking genuine gratitude; she is attacking how utang na loob is weaponized as a tool for lifelong emotional blackmail. When parents or relatives use 'tinaguyod kita' or 'tinulungan kita' to dictate a person's life choices, career, or finances forever, it stops being about 'character' and becomes transactional control. Setting boundaries to protect your mental health and future isn't arrogance or a lack of morals—it’s breaking a cycle of codependency. You can be deeply grateful and humble without allowing your life to be permanently owned by the people who helped you.
DeleteI think mali ang understanding nya sa “utang na loob”. Hindi binabayaran o nababayaran ang loob, bagkus ito ay tinatanaw.
ReplyDeleteThis! 100%
DeleteI agree with her, you can help but with limits.
ReplyDeleteYung mga salita mo ang ungrateful 🤣🤣🤣 turn off pala itong batang to. Kita naman kung ano namgyari salita karir
ReplyDeleteDati pa yan problematic ang mga hanash sa twitter. Natatawa nga ako sa level ng mga sinasabi nya. Ang batabata pa that time, nagpapakaomnoscient. Magaling lang magtakip at magdivert si ogie para malinis ang image. I guess yan ang isang knabubwisit ni liza sa kanya pano pnapatahimik sya lalo na sa twitter. Ngayon she’s free to do and say whatever. Kaya unang pagkalas pa lang k ogie sumabog na ang true liza haha.
DeleteE kayo ba grateful sa mga pagtitiis ni Liza? Diba sumaya at kinilig din kayo sa mga serye at movies nya with LT? Hindi naman basta isalang lang yun sympre may effort din dun at kailangn sipagan mo mgpromote at umarte sa camera.
DeleteKaya wala nangyari salita careless management mo kase ungrateful ka
ReplyDeleteIf you have respectfully shown gratefulness enough, the one you thought you were indebted to would even tell you to forget about it. Nagkaka problema lang if may ingratang kaganapan.
ReplyDeleteNapaka ganda and smart. Sali ka Liza sa Miss U kung manalo mas lalo ka mapapansin są Hollywood likę Gal Gadot
ReplyDeleteshe has no confidence sa rampa, facrcard and english won’t save her
Deleteopinion mo yan 3:08 basta anjan na face card ni liza paano pa kaya kung pag aralan nya mag beauty queen
DeleteSympre sasabihin nya yun kasi ginawa nya..hehe dba..
ReplyDeleteang utang na loob delicadesa yan sa taong tumulong sa yo
ReplyDeleteKahit naman sa ibang bansa merong concept ng utang na loob.
ReplyDeleteExactly, dunung dunungan nanaman si Liza
Deleteimbento pa more
DeleteThe public will understand her kung talagang inapi sya ng manager and tv station pero wala naman kasing nangyaring ganun. In fact, she is the priority kaya unfair yung mga reklamo nya. If there are some things na hindi nya nagustuhan like let's say na stuck sya sa loveteam, i think it is best na wag nya na sabihin out loud dahil sya mismo, alam naman nya na mas less risk and high return yung strategy na yun kaysa mag solo sya. i think din na may something wrong kay girl..parang hindi sya ganun katalino and narcissist..she cannot read a room.
ReplyDeleteMatagal na nalantad na hindi maganda attitude niya kahit sa set. Sadyang VIP treatment nakukuha niya
DeleteBakit ba dpat si Liza lagi ang magpasalamat? Andon na tayo sa tinulungan sya ng network, pero hindi ba nagtrabaho din sya for them? Naging puppet din sya at pinatulan nya ang loveteam para sumikat? Yes kasi isang step yon para sumikat pareho silang nakinabang. Tigil nyo kaka ungrateful dahil kayo lang yun. Kahit nagiba na ng landas si Liza never sya nanira shes always talk with all honesty, nasasaktan kayo kasi real talk abt sa loveteam cuture wherein step lang sya para sumikat pero hindi for long term. Madami talagang gimik don same story, concept kailangan mgpakilig. Where is the lie? Ngayon Liza just want to try other things nagaglit kayo. Makasarili lang kayo mga bashers kasi You just always want Liza to fail. Aminin nyo na lang.
ReplyDeletepuno ng resentment sa buhay idol mo.. eh mas marami naman mas magaling kay Liza pero she’s given priority and marketed well. tapos sukang suka na akala mo without those people in the past, she can make it big.
Deletein the first place sa america nga sya nagka trauma ng childhood pero sa pinas showbiz system/ culture nya lahat sinisi ang mga issues nya sa buhay. Si Liza/family nya ang lumalit para magkaron ng management support, siya din kumapit sa dating LT at ayaw bitawan for clout tapos when goods na sya umalis, panay paninira sa past na akala mo super talented like Lea Salonga level ang contribution sa industry. Delulu pa mga fantards. Inuuto na nga kayo ayaw pa gumising!
Deletenakopo 12:46 naexplain na nga sa comment di mo padin magets
DeleteAll Filipino traits should be all unlearned
ReplyDeleteTulog na Liza
Deletenot really, may positive traits din ang pinoy compared sa ibang bansa na nagsusuicide na mga tao sa lala ng culture nila
DeleteShe clearly does not underatand the principle of "Utang na loob" because in essence, it is "gratefulness in action". It is not necessarily repaying the good favor done to you. It is also about not causing any wrongdoing to the one who had helped you. Siguro nagsawa sya kasi sinasabihan sya ng walang utang na loob kasi hindi naging maganda separation nya with her former manager.
ReplyDeleteSarap kaya ng pakiramdam na ikaw naman ang nakakatulong sa dating tumulonng sayo.
ReplyDeleteThis! 🥹😌✨
DeleteKaya nga daming natulungan ni Liza kahit sa ABS franchise isa sya sa sumuporta
DeleteThat's why I don't want to support this Forgotten Island movie because the main cast is not a true Filipina and seems to harbor bitterness with us when in reality, the Philippines only made her rich and famous and stuck in a loveteam but America gave her childhood trauma but she doesn't hate the US.
ReplyDelete"Because she's not a true Filipina" - Wow you're racist.
Delete12:10 So be it!
Delete12:10 Shes American. Shes not event a fluent Tagalog Speaker
Delete11.14 but when other people are racist to you you'll get mad. What a hypocrite!
DeleteHindi nya hiningi maging rich and famous. Talaga lang kailangan nya mabuhay at magsikap. Kung ano nakuha nya pinaghirapan nya.
Delete1:22, Stop lying. Kung totoong hindi nya hiningi maging rich and famous, hindi sana pag-aartista ang kinuha nyang career kundi maging ordinaryong manggagawa lang sa kumpanya.
DeleteShe only became famous because she is half-white. Liza should lecture Filipinos instead to stop treating half-whites like her like Gods. It's much more pathetic than utang na loob.
If ph made her rich ibig sabihin nagsikap si Liza para makuha yon. Pumayag sya sa loveteam2x pero hindi ba pwede na maging independent habang tumatanda ka? Ganyan kasi kakitid utak nyo gustyo nyo mastuck sa isng bagay tapos ibabash nyo rin na wlang talent
DeleteI feel that the term “utang na loob” has been misconstrued. For me, it is a sense of gratitude and appreciation of all the people who have helped you along the way. It is like a reminder not to lose that sense of being thankful that there were people who have helped you, in one way or another, achieved where you are today. The word “utang” in the term utang na loob should be interpreted as paying it forward, spreading the kindness and help that was handed out to you. Obligasyon natin na maging mabuting tao. Pwede rin magkaron ng utang na loob hindi sa tao kundi sa ating bansa :)
ReplyDeleteTo "Unlearn" something means you are capable of "Learning" :D :D :D Have you seen the corrupt politicians being voted for every single election for the past 20 years? ;) ;) ;) There's your answer right there :) :) :)
ReplyDeleteKung lahat kayo galit kay Liza dahil walang utang na loob kamo.edi wag na kayo magbash ng kahit sinong local celebrities natin dito sa Pinas? Also lahat ng may loveteam serye or movie suportahan at ipa block buster nyo. Kiligin kayo at dapat lahat ng loveteams magkatuluyan. Wag na kayo manuod ng mga hollywood films. Mga ipokrito't ipokritas.
ReplyDeleteWhen did Liza become authority about filipino culture when you only value being filipino when its convenient for you
ReplyDeleteRepresentative na natin si Liza sa hollywood. Sympre pinapakilala nya kung saan sya nagmula at nangaling. Kinukwento nya ang journey nya.
Deletesana aminado din sya na dahil sa mestiza privilige kaya sya nabigyan ng priority projects. nakinabang din sya diba
Delete1:21 Excuse me hindi sya ang representative ko.. Lea is the best representation of Filipinos
Delete11:10 may mga kuda din si lea sa bansa natin like liza. kayo lang makkitid ang utak ayaw ma real talk. Isa pa si Liza ang iniinterview jan at kau nag aabang sa bawat interviews nya kaya sya ang representative.
DeleteRepresentative ng Pilipinas eh lagi nyang binabash ang Pilipinas in international platform. Kala mo sinong sikat
DeleteEtong babaitang to lagi na lang may mali sa culture ng philippines, laos ka na dito. Pilit mo nalang sarili mo sa hollywood na di ka naman pinapansin
ReplyDeleteTanong mo din sa sarili mo kung maunlad ba Pilipinas gaya sa ibang bansa na mayayaman at maayos ang pag iisip di gaya mo.
DeleteBinabash nyo rin naman mga LTs na promo at kung wlang growth dahil kapit sa LT? Totoo naman yun e. Hello?
DeleteTanggapin na kasi ng faneys ni Lisa shes past her prime and she’ll just be a micro starlet in Hollywood. Pinas parin ang kapit nyan sarili huli
Deleteibig sabihin pala pag tumulong ka sa isang tao mag expect ka na utang yon. Pag hindi mo nabayaran, ibash mo nalang yung taong natulungan mo. huwaw
ReplyDeleteLahat na lang.
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