Monday, July 2, 2018

Repost: Transwoman to Represent Spain in Ms. Universe

Image courtesy of www..rappler.com


Miss Universe Spain crowned a transwoman on Friday, June 29, the first for the beauty pageant.

Angela Ponce, 25, will represent Spain in the upcoming Miss Universe pageant scheduled end of the year. Her win comes as Pride Month comes to a close.

Image courtesy of www..rappler.com


This is not the first time Angela competed in a beauty pageant. She joined Miss World Spain in 2015 but did not win. Mireia Lalaguna, who won the contest, went on to win the Miss World title that year.

Although she lost in 2015, Angela told the Daily Mail that she already felt like a winner when she competed in Miss World Spain.

"I have the regional crown on my head," Angela said about representing Cadiz at that time.

"And I will keep fighting to make us seen, to make us heard and to demonstrate that I am already a queen with my own crown."

In 2012, the Miss Universe Organization announced that it was allowing transwoman candidates to participate. It is unclear if the rule still applies after Donald Trump, who then owned the pageant, sold it to IMG.

Angela will compete alongside the Philippines' Catriona Gray, who hopes to take home the country's 4th Miss Universe crown. – Rappler.com

127 comments:

  1. pwede b hindi tunay na babae sa Ms. U?

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    1. through dna test. he is still a man no matter what.

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    2. yes, basta operada pwede na.

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    3. I have no against the Transwoman but sana they give way for the real woman by birth in Ms. U. They also have numerous pageants that no real woman by birth can compete in. Ang hirap lang magsalita ng feelings kasi ayaw mo makasakit o mabash but yun ang opinion ko. Sana di na lanb sila sumali sa Ms. U dahil meron din naman silang sarili.

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    4. End na ng mga beaucon na para sa mga female born lang. Baka kasi ma accuse sila ng discrimination. Kaya papayag sila sa ganyan.

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    5. Kung equality ang ipinagsisigawan nila then dapat iallow na rin ang natural-born females sa mga gay beauty pageants

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    6. 2:12 I agree withu

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    7. No offens meant pero nung pinagkakaguluhan syan icongratulate ng ibang candidates, lalaki ang itsura nya lumalabas pa rin

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    8. 6:10 - YEAH BUT I DON'T THINK NATURAL-BORN WOMEN WILL COMPETE IN A TRANS PAGEANT.

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    9. Para namang binastos nila ang kababaihan kung allowed ang transgender sa beauty pageant

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    10. Kung babae ka, mafi-feel at mase-sense mo na lalaki sya. Ewan ko, pero ganun ang nararamdaman ko.

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    11. Susme babuyan na itey. He was born a man and therefore his physical beauty is no longer natural. Sigurado dumaan na yan sa napakaraming operasyon. Ang mga shunga namang kababaihan pinayagan pa ilaban sa kanila ay fake beauty. Sana nag-backout na lang sila sa pagsali.

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  2. Bakla ako pero sana naman ibalato na natin ito sa mga real-born women..pero wala eh inallowed na ng muo eh.

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    1. Agree with you.

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    2. Iba ang bakla sa transwoman.

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    3. ako din hndi ko kaya..

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    4. True ka jan girl.

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    5. 9:28 im a glad with your opinion..for sure meron din nmang intl competition ang mga trans.. im all for equality pero sa ganito allow real women to shine.

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    6. Baks, Salamat.. I thought I was losing my mind. Joke ba to???? Its the same deal may Lalaki/trabs sumasali sa sporting events of course talo yung babae. I'm all for progress but THIS IS NOT PROGRESS.

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    7. Kasi for the LGBTQ the ideal society is that there will be no genders, no definitive sexes, so that nobody is excluded or prejudiced. All such contests can be entered into by “everybody” and are equally judged for their good qualities. Mahirap ma achieve yun pero yun ang goal, which can happen rin siguro. I mean, 20 years ago, parang hindi achievable ang same-sex marriage, pero now, it is legally recognized na in so many countries. Marami na rin sa atin dito na readers sa FP ang buhay na for over 20 years diba? So, baka makita rin natin sa lifetime natin yung blurring ng lines pagdating sa sexuality at sexual orientation. Opinion ko lang po.

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    8. I agree. I'm afraid for the future of my kids.. Maybe time will come na they won't know the difference between trans and women who were really born as women since birth. This is not equality at all. I love my gay friends, trans friends etc etc but we should still promote honesty in any events or pageants.

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    9. Correct 11:33. Nakakagulat yung sumsali sa sports ng babae pero pala trans woman. Siyempre yun ang mananalo.

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    10. Correct. Sana iba yung contest para sa knla. Nothing against transwoman pero sana un qualitification na babae ka un ang basehan, may age at height requirements pero sexuality/gender wala?how ironic!

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    11. thanks to lgbt community, wala ng tunay na babae ang mananalo sa sports 🤣🤣🤣

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    12. hay nako ang mga bakla, naghihilahan pababa! dapat maging happy na lang tayo na pwede na sumali ang isang miyembro ng LGBTQ sa miss U. mga bakla pa man din kayo! chururut tusok!

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    13. As a woman I personally find this unfair.Of course they will have the upper hand specially with all those hormonal pills they are taking, while us natural born females can’t take as much as they can since we have it in our system naturally and by taking more could predispose us to hormonal imbalance that can lead to different illness. We can’t have a society we’re in “gender” don’t exist because that is the natural way of life. I support the LGBTQ community and I think that they should celebrate their love and place in the society without stepping on other people’s toes. Remember the female Filipino runners who went gender testing like Nancy Navata, so how does MU any different from that? I think our society is overwhelmed about this progress that we are already forgetting the balance of nature. That it’s ok to be truly who you are but at the same time remember what you were and still are.

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    14. SPOT ON 9:15

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    15. Correct 11:37. Pero hindi ibig sabihin na tama yan para sa society. Playing God na yung mga pag sex change. Nature will always find a way to balance the world, kaya habambuhay sila kailangan mag gamot para mag mukang babae dahil kung itigil nila yon babalik anyo nila sa pagiging lalaki.

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  3. Wala ako problema sa LGBT community pero sana ibigay nalang sa mga tunay na babae ang MU,MW,MI,etc. I think meron namang pageant for trans. Just saying.✌

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  4. Angela's face still has a strong male feature, unlike Kevin Balot na akala mo babae talaga. 😁 Congrats LGBT.

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    1. Same tayo ng comment.

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    2. kc asian tyosila spanish mapababae bakla lalake o tomboy mas strong festures nila compare sa atun

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  5. I don’t get it. Ano bang qualifications ng Ms. Universe?

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    1. ako rin, binago naba? d ba dapat biologically female? i get it kailangan maging open tayo pero naman! there are pageants for transwomen at prestigious rin naman hayaan nyo na sa mga babae ang mu. oa na masyado.

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  6. Give love niyo na ms.u sa amin. Jowa nga namin asa inyo. Charot! Hahahaha

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  7. Im proud supporter of lbgt, pero MU is for woman empowerment, wag naman sana haluan ng trans ✌️

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  8. Ay. Totally pro-LGBT ako pero nakakagulat naman 'to. Gulo-gulo na. Akala ko may ibang dedicated pageants for them at ang Miss U for women. Sa mga susunod na taon, lalong halo-halo na ang candidates nito for sure.

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  9. Pls give this to us women na lng. As much I respect the LGBT community, hindi nman pwedi na lahatin nlng. Sometimes kasi hindi na equality yung gusto ng iba, nang angangkin na eh hahahaha. Sa Miss Q&A season 2 ka na lng sumali pls.

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  10. Eh mukha pa ding lalake. Naku naman doon na lang sya Sana sa Ms Gay Universe sumali.

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    1. Miss U is opening a can of worms here, pag di nanalo, I'm afraid that some extremists will accuse them of descrimination. But I hope not.

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  11. I dont agree with this.. I am gay and very proud of myself and i love beauty pageants but im very contented na that we have beauty pageants for gays and womens.. I dont think its fair to have beauty pageants joining by trans and women at the same time.. We in lgbt community, we have unique abilities that women cant do and they have abilities that we gay people cant do as well.. Kontento na ako being third sex but i will never think that i am a woman because in reality i am not talaga! This ms. Universe pagents should be sa girls lang..

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    1. Salamat! Faith in humanity restored!

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    2. I applaud you @1034 you are so classy

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    3. 10:34 Salamat normal ka pa mag isip at hindi abusado. You have my respect.

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    4. Agree. And if ever ba na may pageant na pang-trans and sasalihan ng babae, ok lang ba un? Just sayin

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    5. Love your answer 10:34!

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  12. This is so nonsense

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  13. I love LGBT community pero sana sa iba nlng pinasali siya. Bigay nlng natin sa real women ang mga ganito pageant . Just sayin

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  14. Lalaki pa din itchu nya.

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  15. I’m part of the lgbt community, pero sana hindi pinayagan na sumali ang transgender sa ms u. Sana mgkaron nalang ng ms u or ms world for the transgender.

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  16. Wala nang credibility ang mga beauty pageants. Everytime may nakikita akong beauty queens, magdududa pa ako kung babaye talaga ito. LOL

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    1. Dadating ang panahon na ganyan nga. Baka itago na din ni Gloria Diaz crown nya at baka pati sya mapagkamalang trans. Respetado ko sila pero sana naman wag na nila pasukin ang para sa totoong Eba.

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  17. Im speechless....

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  18. Im gay but this is a NO NO NO for me!!!! Oh my God🙄🙄🙄

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  19. I'm not gay and I have nothing against them...They deserve to have their own pageants to raise awareness sa LGBT community.Miss Universe should be for women empowerment...Wala masama if sabihin natin na sana pangbabae lang yung Miss U.

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  20. Hindi naman na tama yan.

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  21. Transwoman competing with biological females? This is a no for me. Gugulo lang lalo. Baka pagsimulan pa ng away yan ng sangkababaihan at kabekihan.

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    1. transwomen are not gays, jeez! ignorants

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    2. 12:40 YOU are the ignorant one because you don’t understand the word ‘biological’. -not 12:14

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    3. 12:40 So transwomen are women? Hahahaha! I'm gay and i can be a transwoman if i wanted to. But the point is iibahin ko lang ang itsura pero gay pa rin ako.

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  22. It’s so awesome how the LGBT community is so understanding regarding how MU is for naturally born women only. So proud of you. #LoveisLove

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  23. Wag magpadala ang Ibang bansa ng mga babae. Padala din ng transgender! Leche!

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    1. Ang gaganda ng mga trans women natin bes. Baka tayo ang magwagi!

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    2. Talo tayo pag ang Thailand ang nagoadala ng trans MsU hehe. Nawindang ako na mas magaganda pa ang iba sa kanila keysa sa pinanganak na babae kase todo effort sa pagenhance

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  24. Pag satin inallow ito... dadami pam bato natin. Daming kaya tayong magagandang trans.

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  25. Bye bye na sa essence of being a woman.

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  26. When Ms. U started, the contestants were natural born women na walang retokada. Natural beauty and brains talaga. Ngayon madaming retokadang contestants. Then now they will accept transwomen. Ano ba talaga criteria ng Ms U?

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    1. Wala halo halo na to gain popularity. Mas maingay mas maraming tatangkilik. It has become a circus actually. Lalo ngaun.

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    2. Sabihin mo yan sa south korea. Baka mawalan sila ng pwedeng contestant

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    3. Mas magulat ka bes pag nagpadala ng representative ang Mars at Uranus para sumali sa Miss Universe.

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  27. Baka ito yung sinasabi ni catriona sa question nya kanina, if may taga "ibang planeta daw ba siyang makakalaban sa Ms. U"? Meaning ibang gender. Hindi nya lang masabi o maitanong dahil bawal pa iannounce.

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  28. Nothing against sa mga trans. Pero wag naman masyadong oa sa paghangad ng equality. Anong sense pa ng papageant para sa mga trans kung pwede naman pala sumali sa miss universe? Bat di na lang igive sa mga real women ‘to. Yan na lang nga ata ang pinakasikat na pageant para sa babae, tapos pwede pala ang trans? Edi magbibigay lang yan ng kalituhan na open pala para sa lahat ang miss universe.

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  29. D2 lng naman sa Pnas na big deal ang miss universe, sa ibang bansa eh parang tv show lng yan kaya no big deal kung babae o trans woman ang sumali ! purely entertainment value lang ang purpose nyam sa US ,d katulad sa Pnas na dinidyos ang mga nananalo jan noh

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  30. Mukha pa din lalaki

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  31. Ang pang babae na pagent ay para sa tunay na babae Lang. They can make their own pagent for the LGBT ha. Issue ito

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  32. Boses lalaki pa din hahaha

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  33. I think it's still better to have separate pageants for natural-born women and LGBT given their own advocacies.

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  34. ka-fez siya ni iris, ms. france na nanalong miss universe.

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    1. mas maganda at mas mukhang babae pa nga siya kesa kay iris.

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  35. I respect amd have nothing against LGBT community pero sana give nalang nila itong Miss U sa biologically born females. Madami naman sila pageants na pwedeng salihan. I think it unfair kasi may contests din naman ang Trans pero syempre di pwede yung biologically born female sa contests nila dba. Balato nalang sana ni yun sa mga natural born women, natuwa naman sila sa Miss U before kahit na wala pang Trans sa competition.

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  36. Hindi ba unfair to sa mga totoong babae? Ano na bang qualifications ng MU? Di dapat natural looking hindi retoke? For sure niyan sa mga susunod na taon ang MU puro trans na... Baka nga next year representative ng thailand Eh trans din.

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    1. how sure are you that transgenders are not women trapped in mens’ bodies? this has been scientifically proven

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    2. Because at the end they are biologically males and lets face it one of the categories of MU is having a natural Female body. MU is for women empowerment and not for trans women empowerment.

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    3. 8:40 aral ka about SOGIE para mintindihan mo sinasabi ni 5:06

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    4. Aba mas magaling pa pala kayo sa Diyos 5:06 at 11:52?

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  37. It defeats the true purpose of competition among WOMEN. Kaya nga Miss U.

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  38. Im sorry, i have nothing against trans coz I have several close friends na trans but please naman sana sa ibang pageant nalang sila. If this rep wins MU, di na ako manonood. Sorry

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  39. Kung Political Correctness na lang ang paiiralin natin. Dapat pwede nang sumali ang babaeng hindi sexy at hindi kagandahan. Beauty is relative di ba?

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    1. True. At alisin na din ang mga height requirements etc.

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    2. Tama! If equality din lang naman ang pag uusapan.

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    3. Ay may point ka baks

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  40. "I do think that that would be fair but I can understand that people would be a little apprehensive to take that road because there is a tradition of natural-born women, but today where there are so many surgeries and so many people out there who have a need to change for a happier life, I do accept that because I believe it's a free country," -Olivia Culpo at Miss USA 2012 when asked if she agrees with transgender woman winning Miss USA.

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    1. Politically correct answer.

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    2. Political correctness is SO 2012.

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  41. Kala ko ba bawal retoke sa mga pageant. Especially Miss U.

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  42. Miss Universe dapat natural beauty, walang retoke.

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  43. Baka ito na ang simula ng pagpasok ng mga palabang tranny sa Miss U.

    Good luck!

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  44. The Miss Universe Organization is first and foremost a business and alot of their decisions will be related to staying profitable and relevant. Only time wil tell if this is a good decision or a misstep on their part.

    I have been a beauty contest junkie since I was a kid. Although personally I do not see these women as the ultimate prettiest or best of their countries- I see them as beautiful, determined and competitive women who capitalize on their physical beauty and other talents to gain a prize or prizes that may ultimately help them in the future- be it in career, financially or even just to have fun experiences.

    I am not bothered by this decision. If countries believe their "Miss" can be represented by a transwoman, why not? It is who we are inside that ultimately make us who we are. Beauty contests just celebrate those who were given an extra boost genetically - because when the contests were conceptualized, they were there to promote something- a product, a business, a charity. Now they have the extra push of promoting values and advocacies. And the contest is to decide who will be best face and spokeswoman for what they want to achieve.


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  45. Sino dito yung totoong fanney ng ms u at sino yung nakiki bandwagon lang? 2012 pa po pinayagan na sumalo ang mga trans sa Ms U. Sa ibang bansa kasi, pag nagpa gender re assignment na binabgo na gender sa mga documents. Si Ms Universe Canada 2012 po ang unang trans na nakasali. Pinayagan sya ni them MU owner donald trump. So medyo matagal na allowed sila pero hindi naman laging may nakakasali. Kaya keri na yan

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    1. Girl si Jenna ng Canada hindi nanalo sa national pageant niya. Itong si Spain nanalo, kaya technically siya ang unang trans na makakasali sa Miss Universe.

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  46. Sa LGBTQIA community nga you can't call a trans, gay and vice versa laso they identify themselves diffrently. Tapos ihalo pa ang trans sa straight women? Ano ba. Di na equality yan, special treatment na.

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    1. “IM a natural born woman” and here is my opinion..
      let’s jusy say a transwoman who look like a “real” woman enters a pageant and didnt say she was one. No one will react, just a plain girl competing for the crown..the animosity will only starts if that person confirm that she’s trans.. so, most people will react negatively not because they believe that the pageant is for woman only but becoz of how unnatural being a trans is.

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    2. Anon 12:28, and let’s say a transwoman joins the olympics & compete against the natural born woman. Do you think it’s still fair? Think about it.

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  47. Parang masculine pa rin. Mas magaganda ang mga trans and gays from Asia, mas feminine snd softer ang features.

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    1. Ate dito naman kasi sa Asia, pwede kang makabili ng pills kahit sa botika. In other countries, you need to consult a doctor first. Prescription ang need nila to gain access sa estrogen pills. Eh sa thailand nga, 12 yo pa lang ang beki, lumalaklak na ng estrogen para maagang maluto ang mga muscles. Hahaha

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  48. Most of the comments here give me headache. Daming ignorante pa rin talaga

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    1. It's not being ignorant. It's being realistic.

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    2. We are not ignorant. Females are definitely different from transwoman. I have nothing against LGBT community but this is too much.

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  49. So Miss U opened Pandora's Box.

    It should be named "Beautiful Face of the Universe" tapos genderless.

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  50. The reason there’s a beauty contest for transgenders is because society does not see them as real women. 50 years ago, black women also had a separate contest. This is another step to equality and if people do not understand it now, I hope in the next 50 years it will make sense. Educate yourselves, people.

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    1. best answer! iam enlightened!

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    2. Being black is natural, while having surgery to be a woman is a different story. Yes you are correct let’s educate ourselves and go back on how the natural course of nature is, on how men should not act like A God and decide to alter the physical body.

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    3. Ay mas BEST ANSWER si 1:13 oh! Kabog si 6:31

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    4. Mga pang Ms. U ang answer! Ang gagaling nyo mga bes! Hahahaha! Kay anon 11:13 ang vote ko. Pak na pak!

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    5. We are well educated ergo we studied biology or anatomy and physiology that's why we find this quite disturbing. Do not compare race from gender equality. Whether you like it or not a transwoman will always be a man by birth. We respect the LGBT community but this is way out of line. They have their own pageant ergo should stick to it.

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    6. Ay ang pasok sa banga si 11:13 pang Miss U ang sagot

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  51. Mga Pilipino lang naman sumeseryoso sa Miss U eh.. so wapakels.

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  52. baka mangyari niyan lahat ng contestants sa miss u trans na,

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  53. Di ba parang unfair nman sa mga natural born women 'to? I mean how can u compete wd someone enhanced by Science, Im sure its not only his genitals but her overall look too.

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  54. katawang lalaki pa rin. 2nd photo shows. ewww

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  55. Nothing against LGBT pero wag naman sana gawing gay pageant lahat.

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  56. Ngehhhh sana sa natural n babae lng ang Ms. U.. total my pageant din naman pra s mga trans eh.. sorry ha di ko hate mga trans or bakla or nsa lgbtq pero pero pero parang nawala essence ng Miss Universe eh..

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  57. so whats next? papayagan din yung mga trans gays na sumali sa olympic? tapos dun sila sa female category. eh ang lakas nun. iba pa din ang lakas ng male sa female. even sa competition like miss u. kahit sabihin mong trans yan. stick pa din tyo sa original gender nya. dapat sa ibang pa-contest na lang. andami naman. wala naman din nagdidiscriminate eh, inaayos lang kung saan dapat sumali at hindi.

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    1. ginagawa na nila sa america yan. kaya nawawalan ng gana yung ibang batang babae dahil trans woman kalaban nila

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