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Sunday, October 15, 2017

FB Scoop: Father of Nadine Lustre Speaks Up on Depression


Images courtesy of Instagram: Ulysses Lustre

111 comments:

  1. Wala ba silang open forum sa pamilya nila bakit parang halos lahat sila depressed

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    1. meron talagang ganyang sakit teh.

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    2. Hereditary kasi ang depression. Nakakaloka naman to si Anon 12:26

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    3. What 12:26 meant is,bakit parang di sila nag uusap usap para at least naiinsan ang mga depression nila

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    4. di nmn lahat ng depressed open sa feelings nla even sa family members

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    5. hindi lahat ng families open sa isa't isa baks. kung sa'yo open kayo, maswerte ka. pasalamat ka.

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    6. Swerte pa rin ako,the fact na hiwa hiwalay na kme dahil may sari sarili na kaming pamilya, kapag may isang may problema samin or depressed hnd namin nakakalimutang mag reunion. sana sila din total no work si mom and dad dapat imonitor nila ung mga anak malalaman naman kse yan through actions,sabi nga ng kapatid ni nadine napansin nilang mainitin ang ulo at tahimik ung brother nila bago mawala

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    7. Depression is serious illness. No matter how lively the surrounding is, no matter how positive and happy the people act around you, if you feel down and unmotivated, everything will only be an act. You'll just go with the flow and at the end of the day, when you're alone in your room, you'd still feel miserable. Depression is a personal battle. It's you against yourself.

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  2. Loss, not lost.

    "Your depression is incomparable to us parents when you do". WHAAAATT?? Then be more mindful of your children. Where were you and your attention all those times he was going through difficult struggles? You, parents, often are partly (kahit 0.0000099 pa 'yan) at fault. Admit and quietly and sincerely say sorry to the deceased.

    - Another clinically depressed child and under medication and therapy

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    1. pano kung parehas meron. Read between the lines.

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    2. Agree with 12:36 am. Kung si Nadine ang sinasabing breadwinner ng pamilya niya, dapat tutok na silang dalawa sa mga anak nila. Paimbestigahan na rin niya kung bakit may baril at accessible sa anak niya ang unlicensed gun sa bahay nila at nasaan sila that time nang mangyari iyon

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    3. I don't think they want to say ' sorry ' because they don't want to be seen as failures as parents, maybe for the sake of the surviving children. It goes without saying that they will be more proactive and watchful this time.

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    4. Let me ask you this. If you're a teenager, would you be comfortable enough to open up with your parents about your heartbreak and struggles? Di ba hindi? Kasi tingin mo dyahe... Plus common na sa mga teenagers na maging difficult kasi they are going through identity crisis and at the same time they are torn between being an adult and a child kaya feeling mo you don't know your purpose. Minsan pa nga teenagers is going through stage of rebellion kasi feeling nila e they know everything na and don't need anyone's help. Don't blame everything to the parents, kasi di naman instant yan na pag nagkaanak ka e alam mo na agad gagawin. Lahat ng tao may flaws. Regarding naman sa baril, dyusme. Minsan kahit gaano kahit nasa safety box pa yang guns mo, pwede at pwede pa rin yang makita or mapaglaruan ng kahit sino. Plus I think binreaf nya ang pamilya na just incase may burglar or masamang loob at kailangan nila pagtanggol sarili nila e atleast andun yung guns. Imagine, celeb yung anak nila kaya di malayo na mapagdiskitahan sila ng magnanakaw. Tama na yang mindset na yung sisisihin pa nagdadalamhati. Be sensitive naman.

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    5. Ang dali isisi lahat sa parents. Kayo ba mag oopen up? Pag tinanong kayo how you are doing or if theres anything wrong, what do you usually say? Im fine.. i said im fine.. ang kulit naman.. ok ngalang!.. leave me alone..

      I know there are parents na wala talagang kwenta. But you are in control of your life. Sa Diyos ka kumapit.. at tignan din ang sarili bago manisi.

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    6. 11:06 kindly read the posts, sinasabi dito that even the father had depression not just the brother of Nadine. Hindi common na lahat ng problema ng tao mauuwi sa pagsuicide. This is a cry for help. Sinasabi na nga loud and clear. Depression is the very reason, kahit may problema, walang problema etc etc. Kindly read the posts before saying na ganyan ang problema.

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  3. How did the son get hold of the gun?

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    1. An important detail still not addressed.

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    2. And since it is neither being addressed nor investigated, the one culpable/responsible will get away from the liability

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  4. The loss...not the lost. Inulit pa.
    Pwede namang mag Tagalog po.

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    1. I feel you. I have learned to be more considerate about being a grammar nazi since—given their popularity—they might need to cater to a broader audience that do not speak the language, but a lotof the meaning was lost in translation sa pagpilit. It looked forced and unrooted in emotion. Anyway, choice naman niya yun and what’s important is the intent. Sakin lang, if it’s about sending a message to my son who took his own life, the only thing that would matter is that he understood it regardless if no one else did.

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    2. Let's just focus on the sincerity of the message.

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    3. Ang daming grammar nazi dito! Well may mga lapses but focus on the msg wag masyadong shallow

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  5. I feel bad for the kid. Can’t imagine what he went through. He was so young.

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  6. I know he meant well but his statement, “Your depression is incomparable to us parents when you do” seems inappropriate. You cannot invalidate your son’s (or anyone for that matter) depression. This is the very reason why a lot of people, especially the young, choose to fight their battles by themselves instead of seeking medical help and support from parents and friends. They are afraid that someone will just say “get over it” or “others have it worse than you.”

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    1. You said it best.

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    2. I think what he meant was, mas masakit para sa parents kapag depressed ang anak nila more so, yun ang ikinamatay nila.. the pain is incomparable.

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  7. To cure depression: love and support, get checked and pray. Mag balik loob Sa diyos... it's not yet too late! Sabi nga Sa kanta "sikapin mo Pilitin mo, tibayan ang puso Hinde natutulog ang diyos dahil may halaga ang buhay natin Sa kanya".

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  8. Oh how sad. Kahit yung dad may depression din? I wonder how is it in their family. They suppress their feelings and it must have been hard

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    1. Prayers I guess? Don't get me wrong but it's the powerful tool fighting depression. Bonding, bonding, bonding..travel travel travel...whole family

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    2. ilan araw ko na iniisip what could be the v\best advice and solution. I think it will consulting a psychologist or psychiatrist and undergo psychotherapy and proper medication though travelling and prayers can be a activity na iinsert sa therapy program but di sya mag rerevolve around dun. yes prayer is a solution and God is giving the answer sa mga prayers natin pero d natin nakikita akala natin minsan we just have to pray tapos kakausapin si Lord pero minsan d tayo nakikinig sa mga solution na nasa harap na ng mukha natin

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    3. I will keep it short. Depression is not the same as sadness. The fact that the dad needed to compare the degree of depression was a bit concerning. Not to take away from their grieving process

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    4. Psychological disorders could run in families. The causes could be because of biopsychosocial factors.

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    5. this is true 3:56. It is a condition, pwedeng parehas silang meron.

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    6. kindly read the post, the dad said that he also suffered from depression. Let us respect that.

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  9. In order to fight and help depressed people, you have to make changes amongst yourselves. Be open to each other. Have family time. Do something productive together. Always check on the kids, their whereabouts, what are they up to. Little things like that will make them feel good.

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  10. May God bless his family. If not for Isaiah’s tragedy, malapit na hong maging dysfunctional ang family nyo. Yung blogs ng anak nyo, posts nyo sa FB, mukhang may tinatakasan si nadine sa tahanan nyo kaya nakikipag live in.

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    1. Teh depression is a genetic disease. You can the perfect and closest family, most successful job and life and still have depression. Hindi sya kasalanan ng magulang or what not. Pls know your facts first bago manghusga.
      - senioritang may depression

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    2. preach. walang pamilya na perpekto.

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    3. mga ate, depression is a silent killer. Kahit sa Hollywood, si Robin Williams. kailangan talaga pumunta sa doctor para mabigyan ng mga gamot at para bigyan advice ng tamang pagharap sa ganitong problema. There are meditations, mga group support etc.

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  11. If they have depression they need to see a therapist or a doctor.

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    1. this is correct, also to find out what kind of depression they are suffering from . Iba iba kasi ang type of depression. Hindi ito basta basta lang na naging sad ayun na.

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  12. The most painful thing a parent will ever go through is to bury their child and outlive them :(

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    1. Ika nga ng matatanda at mga magulang “hindi ako ang maglilibing ng mga anak ko”

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    2. Totoo to! Wala na mas sasakit pa sa mamatayan ng anak

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    3. Grabe sapul na sapul mo 1:28 ang sakit sakit nito

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    4. Agree.. sb nga pag namatayan ka ng magulang ulila ka pag namatayan ka ng asawa balo ka pero pag namatayan ka ng anak sa sobrang sakit walang term na magagamit to describe it..

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    5. true this! Let's pray for this.

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    6. 2:30 tama ka.

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  13. Dasal ang nakatulong sa aking depression. Nag balik loob ako at masasabi ko naging malaki tulong siya sa akin. I make it also to the point i go sa adoration chapel for an hour and lift it up to jesus. secret place ko siya tawagin. Syempre support ng family ko andiyan din.

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    1. kailangan din nila mag consult sa doctor baka may mga meds na kailangan to regulate one's depression.Depending on what type.

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  14. So may history sila ng depression? i think kailangan nila to see a doctor.

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  15. the mom had cancer, I feel like it had something to do with the depression/sadness of the family

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    1. Pero gumaling na mom nila cancer free na. Usually nga pag ganun nangyayari mas nagiging close ang family binding e. Mas bigay attention sa isat isa. Feel ko lang siguro may mga sariling mundo sila kaya ganito nangyari...feel ko lang but we dont know who are we to judge nga naman? Haaay.

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    2. Maybe factor din un. Isa lang sa family member ang magka cancer buong pamilya na ang apektado. Ung emotional trauma grabe

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    3. Ay really? Siguro kaya hindi makapag-open up ng problema yung bata dahil ayaw nyang magpabigat pa sa magulang kasi nga they're already having a tough time na.

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    4. may sakit na depression, paki intindi na lang please. Sinabi na rin mismo ni Mr Lustre na ganun din sya, he's suffering from the same stress from time to time. Paki intindi na lang, Anyways, they are trying to tell us that there is such a condition.

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    5. This could be true. You have your mom recovering from cancer and your sister is making it big in her career. The mood in the family is victorious. You don't want to be the person spoiling the great mood by revealing your mental health troubles. So you isolate yourself and try to deal with it until it all becomes too much.

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  16. Ok po. Eh yung baril, kanino po yun at bakit pakalat-kalat?

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    1. Are we really sure na pakalat-kalat. Ice is 16 years old. He has his own ways of finding things. It's not like he's a toddler who found a gun and played with it.

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    2. Do not assume the gun belongs to a family member. A sixteen year old can obtain it in another way. All it takes is enough money. If it were in the house a 16 year old would know what it is for or how to open a locked safe or cabinet. He is not a toddler who just plays with anything. His intent is to really kill himself. This was no accident.

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    3. 11:56 but the report said the dad owned the gun.

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    4. 11.56 still,if someone in the family owned the gun,he or she should have secured the gun and not made it easy for anyone to access the gun.

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    5. but then again, wala tayo doon. We cannot say that this is what happened. Let the police do their investigation, not us. Wala tayo doon.

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  17. Buong pamilya depressed? Im not sure if it is a factor but I do hope na may healthy relationship sila para di sila nabiktima ng depression?

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    1. oo may ganun talaga girl.

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    2. oo meron ganon, hindi natin alam kung anong klaseng depression ang meron sila pero who are we to judge. Sana nga magkaroon sila ng group session with the psychiatrist.

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  18. Kaya siguro humiwalay at nakipagbahay-bahayan agad sa poging jowa ang Ate nyo at ppinilitmag-adapt sa bagong mundo dahil gustong takasan ang bagahe ng sariling pamilya.

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  19. Depression is not Sadness or depressed ka kasi biktima ka. Pwede bang aralin nyo muna. It is a chemical imbalance in your brain kaya kelangan ng doctor to help you deal. You are all wrong in your assumptions.

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    1. this is correct, kindly seek professional help.May mga gamot din kasi na kailangan ireseta sa taong may malalim na depression.

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  20. Ang laki ng family nila. Ang impression ko sa malaking pamilya, mas masaya, pero parang hindi ata.

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  21. Can't fathom kung saang stage ng grieving process ang pamilyang eto. Nasa denial stage pa ba kasi focus nila lahat sa depression instead of just saying sorry sa pagkawala ng anak/kapatid.

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    1. hayaan mo na, pagpasensyahan may sakit na depression.

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    2. They seem to be busy with social media posting many things instead of quietly praying and reflecting.

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    3. That cant be true anon 1:05. You cant pray 24hrs straight. I can still pray and visit social media.

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    4. Social media can also be a way of expressing feelings and a way of venting it out that somehow an relieve the pain even for a little while

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    5. hayaan nyo na yung tao, that's his way of coping.Namatayan po ng anak. This is very painful. Pray for their family.

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  22. dapat pla mnnuod cla buong family ng seven sundays showing ngaun...bk mk tulong for them to realize kung anong ngyayari s family nla.. mganda kc ung movie,feeling q ung pnagdaanan ni isaiah, bk ung role ni enrique s mgkkpatid sobrang touching n tipong ramdam mo ung pnagdadaanan nya s family

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  23. Itaas ang kamay ng Perfect ang families dito? Itaas ang kamay if ikaw ay perfect family member? Wala ba depress sa inyo?Walang magulang ang gugustuhin mawalan ng anak kaya mahirap magjudge if may pagkukulang sila. Maybe maraming unanswered questions kaya nagcocommit ng suicide na kahit magulang or kaibigan nila or even faith nila kay God hindi kinaya.

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    1. wala pong nagsabi na may pagkukulang sila. Ang pinag uusapan po ay Depression, you are off topic!

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  24. The family needs counselling for what happened to isiah and also to diagnose if they really have depression.

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    1. They need to grieve and reflect quietly as a family; less showbiz muna.

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    2. And less social media?

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    3. nabubunyag na yung mga pilit itinatago, kaya pala ang crass at pretentious. Everyone should know about the truth on depression, and don't mistake for sadness or loneliness

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    4. kailangan ng pag unawa 11:34 instead of hating, unawain.

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  25. Bakit po may baril kayo na di lisensyado?

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    1. wala tayo sa crime scene di ba

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  26. Ang hirap din pag pare pareho pala kayong may depression. How would you support each other. Dapat seek help from a pysch or therapist.

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  27. depression is an expensive condition.. you cannot get medication unless you see a specialist... also it is caused by social pressures

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    1. 11:17 depression isn't caused by social pressures.

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    2. It could be a contributor. Again, BioPsychoSocial factors
      Bio-Genetics/Problem woth neurotransmitters
      Psycho-how one handles stress
      Social-environment

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    3. depression is a sickness, it is not caused by social pressures, kindly read about it before posting. Kaloka!

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    4. where do you want me to read about it? sa inernet? i have rated actual real life cases

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  28. Please don't self diagnose and use the blanket term 'depression' for mental issues. Depression could just be a symptom of more serious mental conditions that would need intensive counseling and medication. Seek professional help.

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    1. There are different forms or types of depression. One should really seek professional help.We cannot solve this on our own.

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  29. Professional help and the medication needed do not come cheap. Scheduling an appointment can take six months to a year. Plus add the stigma people label you with when they know you are seeing a psychologist or a psychiatrist. ‘Yan pamilya ng mga baliw’. Judgemental ignorant people will trigger worse depression.

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    1. it's time to speak up about depression to erase the social stigma. Yes it doesn't come cheap, kaya kailangan ng ipatupad ang mental health bill. I'm glad that's it is given importance now that people are speaking up about this issue.

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  30. No wonder si Nadine left the family home bec of that atmosphere.

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    1. If it can better her well being that’s fine. But she still ends up in a tub confused and depressed. How come?

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    2. If may nakita siya Iba atmosphere Sa family home nila as an ate one of her obligation is to fix it diba? Iniisip Lang Niya sarili Niya Basta maka provide siya sa family niyaa? Hinde nya Hinde nabibigyan pansin ang problema at iniiwasan.

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    3. Nadine is already the breadwinner she doesn't have the be the one who fixes everything else in the family. For one she's still one of the children and is still maturing and finding her way in life. The parents who have more experience have to step up and pull their weight.

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    4. Yeah 10:38 i agree with you,im not a fan but i heard bata pa lang sya kumikita na sya for her family which is hnd naman nya responsibility,wag naman sana ipasa lahat ng sisi sa kanya just because public figure sya.ang mga magulang dapat ung nagbibigay solusyon dahil sila pa rin ang head ng pamilya.pinasa na nga ung financial sa panganay pati ba naman emotional problem si panganay pa rin ang mamomroblema?unfair sa part naman ni girl un

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  31. ang dali naman sa mga tao na sabihing depressed sila o nadepress sila once, whereas yung mga totoong depressed tinatago nila ito at binubunyag na lang kapag naconquer na nila ito.

    It raises my doubts sometimes if "some" people uses this excuse for their questionable behaviors. Nakaka-unfair sa mga totoong nagsu-suffer nito.

    Blame it on the rain na lang.

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    1. Totoo baks. You said it right.

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    2. Tama. Ung iba sinasabi nila na may depression sila dahil nakaramdam lang siguro sila ng lungkot. Try muna nila magpa consult sa doktor para malaman kung depression talaga un. Di naman kasi malalaman agad na may depression ung isang tao

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  32. Punta na ung family nila sa doctor para naman maiwasan ang iba pang hindi magandang mangyari. Sabi nga raw, depression is a silent killer. Pero wala talaga ako alam sa depression. Di ko talaga maintindihan un. Basta ang alam ko lang, kailangan nila ng doktor para makatulong sa kanila. Kailangan nilang tanggapin na kailangan talaga nila ng tulong.

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