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Tuesday, March 22, 2016

Repost: Teddy Locsin, Jr. Justifies His Comments on Using Tagalog in the Debate



Former lawmaker and ''#NoFilter'' host Teddy Locsin Jr. on Monday explained his view on the use of the Filipino language in debates, after he drew flak for urging candidates to speak only in English.

During the second leg of the PiliPinas presidential debates, Locsin tweeted about his opinion on the use of Tagalog in debates, saying that the use of the language for debate "should be discouraged."

Locsin's tweets received flak from netizens, especially from Filipino language advocates and members of the academe.

But he shrugged these off, even telling his critics to "grow up."

"If you really have something, show me that it is a good language. That it is effective in debate, that it can get its point across," Locsin said on ANC Alerts on Monday.

Locsin said that "Tagalog" can be used in a debate only if it is straight to the point.

"You can also say it in Tagalog if you are a Ted Failon and not a Chiz (Escudero), then it's derecho, the way they speak, the way Ted speaks, the way Luchi (Cruz-Valdez) spoke during the debate. It sounded like English to me because it was clear and to the point," he said.

Locsin was referring to the part of the debate where Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte asked Senator Grace Poe what she would do if she gets a call early in the morning about China sinking two Philippine ships.

For Locsin, Poe could have easily answered the question in English.

"What you simply say is this: 3 o'clock, you wake me up, 3 o'clock in the morning? I'm sending my jets. And whether they come back or not, it makes no sense to me, because if they don't come back, then war has been declared between the United States of America and China over the sinking of two of my ships. Period. Then you are a leader," he said.

Locsin said that for him, Duterte won the debate, partly because he communicated well while speaking in English.

"He spoke it like a real man, Hemingway style. Few words and to the point," said Locsin.

He also pointed out that Luchi Cruz-Valdez, who was moderating the debate, was able to effectively communicate in Tagalog, despite the tense situation.

"Luchi did it. That was a confused situation for her, because she got the point across. In spite of the terrible situation, she was in control, and she did it in Tagalog," Locsin said.

His advice for the candidates? Use any language they want as long as they can get their message across clearly.

"Say what you want, but be clear. My advice to the candidates, it's your neck that's on the line. It's not me and what language you want to use, or what language I like. You failed to do a Duterte and you just lose the debate," Locsin said.

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National Artist for Literature and Komisyon sa Wikang Filipino commissioner Virgilio S. Almario, released a statement on the issue, wherein he said that a debate becomes circular not because of the language, but because of the people debating.

Almario lamented Locsin's point of view, noting that such thinking is a manifestation that he looks down on the native language.

"Bunga ito ng mababà niyang pagtingin sa katutubong wika. Para sa kaniya, at sa mga tulad niyang Inglesero, ang Ingles lámang ang pinakaperpekto at pinakamahusay na lengguwahe sa mundo. At iyon ang malaking problema para sa kaniya. Hindi niya matatanggap na walang wikang taal na superyor at/o imperyor. Sa halip, ang antas ng pag-unlad ng bawat wika ay depende sa gumagamit," Almario said.

Almario also cited that debates have been done in Filipino for so long.

"Ni hindi yata alam ni Teddy Boy na nagdedebate halos linggo-linggo ang mga tao sa barberya, sa kanto, palengke, at kahit sa mga karihan. At nagiging napakainit ang kanilang bakbakan, nagiging mahayap ang palitan ng mga salitâ, kung minsan ay nauuwi sa suntukan (at tagaan), at hindi Ingles ang kanilang ginagamit na wika," Almario said.

"Hindi Ingles, kayâ mas nagkakaintindihan silá, mas tumatalab ang insultuhan, mas mabilis ang sagutan. Hindi “circular shitty,” katulad ng mga debate sa Batasan dahil naghihirap umi-Ingles ang mga kongresman at senador," he added.

110 comments:

  1. Ikaw ang mag "grow up" you elitist loser.

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  2. Lakampake kung gusto nila magtagalog. Wag kang epal

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    1. Elitista si Ted pero agree ako sa kanya na si Duterte ang winner sa debate.

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    2. May pake kami kasi maigsi na nga ang oras para malaman sa mga bibig nila mismo ang mga plataporma nila tapos uubusin pa sa maligoy at mala makatang salita? May punto siya makinig ka.

      Some of the words we have in our language have no exact equivalent/ counterpart in english. Dagdag pa, may ibang mga terminolohiya sa wikang ingles na mahirap isalin sa wika natin. Given the time constraint, people will have a more difficult time understanding terms. And let's face it, our is a really flowery language. Beautiful yes but flowery.

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    3. Ito mga klase ng comment na di nag iisip kahit konti, makapang bastos lang. Ikaw ba bilang audience ng debate tapos di mo naintindihan ang candidates, pwede ba nila sabihin sayo na wala din sila paki sayo kung di mo sila naintindihan anonymous 12:38? Teddy is also one of us na interested madinig ang plataporma ng nga kandidato kaya natural lang na magreact din sya gaya nating lahat.

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    4. Pano naman naging winner si duterte? Wala namang sense mga pinagsasabi

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    5. 1.58 di mo kasi naintidihan yung English nya.

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    6. 1:08 agree ako sayo, agree rin ako kay Locsin

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    7. Agree ako kay locsin pero kaya nag e english si duterte kasi hindi nya native tongue ang tagalog este filipino.

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  3. Filipino crab mentality that speaking English make them intelligent. English is just a language and not a bases of your IQ.

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    1. Actually no, it's not crab mentality. Regardless whether you use either english or tagalog, you should be able to get your points across.

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    2. 12:41 I think you missed the point. Basahin mo ulit paliwanag sa article para maintindihan mo.

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    3. Read his Teddy's explanation again so you will clearly understand what he was pointing out.

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    4. Simple lang ng point ni teddy. Use english para straight to the point, pag nagtagalog kc sila daming paligoy-ligoy.

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  4. " .. where Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte asked Senator Grace Poe what she would do if she gets a call early in the morning about China sinking two Philippine ships."

    ---This. Grace Poe was pure rubbish with her answer. Maybe it wasn't in her memorized statements or notes, so she blundered big time.

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    1. Exactly. He exposed Poe's weakness like what others say. It annoys me that Grace talk like Chiz already.

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  5. Only smart people agree to teddy boy

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    1. no, ang pagkakasabi nya nung una eh insulto sa filipino language. yang paliwanag nya eh damage control nalang nya yan.

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    2. Only "feeling conyo" people agree with teddy boy

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    3. oh please!! ni tagalog nga ni poe di nyo naintidihan na iniikot ikot nya, tapos smart pa. wag ka nga. alam ko naman si mar at poe e saulado ang sasabihin kaya please lang. Di mo kailangan itrash talk ang tagalog kung gusto mong sabihin "diretchuhin nyo na andami nyo dakdak".

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    4. So matalino ka? Matalino at mayabang. Yan ka. Earthly wisdom.

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    5. E di ikaw na Valedictorian! Nagpauto ka naman.

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    6. true the pretend "conyos" would definitely agree

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  6. Ingles man o Tagalog maraming politicians ang madalas paliguy liguy magsalita.

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    1. TAMA! Iniikot ikot lang para kunyare madaming alam.

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  7. Manuod ka ng presidential debate sa America tutal gusto mo english

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  8. Ah ok I get the point of Teddy boy, tagalog na nga naman wag na paligoy ligoy.

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    1. ETO YUN MGA KAIBIGAN.

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    2. Yup,exactly. Sa mga banyaga kasi normally naiinis sila pag nag bibeat around the bush pa yung kausap nila. Just like what Mr. Locsin says, "KAHIT ANO PANG WIKA GAMITIN MO, SANA SAGUTIN MO NG DERETSO". Siguro kaya din sabi nya mag english nalang is because english language doesn't use much flowery words.

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  9. Papansin! Feeling! irrelevant! As if whatever you say matters to us. Pwe!

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    1. Para sayo siguro kasi di mo maintindihan. haha

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    2. Ito'ng si Anon 12:44 ang isang ejemplo ng tao na may masabi lang kahit walang saysay ang pinagsasasabi.

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    3. It should because we need to hear directly from the candidates to be able to make an informed choice.

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  10. Why not allow Doris to host the next debate? We will see Mang Teddy's reaction. Hahahahaha!

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    1. Ahahaha korek! May kasama pang salitang beki at kalye si ateng doris baka mag nose bleed sya!

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  11. "His advice for the candidates? Use any language they want as long as they can get their message across clearly."

    AY! Nag iba ihip ng hangin? GROW UP TANDERS

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    1. Tapos pinuri pa si duterte! Takot kasi lalong ma bash!

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  12. For a person criticizing the presidentiables' debating abilities, Mr. Locsin should review his faulty reasoning first. Labo ninyo! But I agree, Duterte ako. Pero sa iba pang pinagsasabi ninyo Sir, mag-isa na lang kayo!

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  13. wala din naman bago kahit english, lalagyan din nila yan ng mga salita nila na bago sa pandinig ng tao na hahanapin sa dictionary, kunyare magaling at madaming alam. Hindi lang talaga niya maintindihan. At Lagi naman straight to the point ang banat ni Digong, tignan mong puro kakaunti lang ang salita nya pero may sense. Dapat sa mga tulad nyang Locsin na yan pinapalayas, mas mabuti pa sya ung lumayas hindi si Poe.

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  14. So feeling matalino ka na nyan dahil articulate ka sa English? Excuse me, nasa pinas ka hindi lahat ng tao nakakaintindi ng English. Hindi lahat ng bumoboto kasing articulate mo sa English, hindi lahat nakakaunawa ng hi-faluting words. Ikaw lang ba ang boboto at PARA SAYO lang ba ang debate? Napaka demanding mo naman Mr. Locsin at wala kang paki sa ibang tao na hindi masyadong nakakaunawa ng English.

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  15. Teddy uses Chiz as a pretentious Tagalog speaker. Hahahahahahaha!

    On a side note, Duterte could have addressed the pretentious leader remark against Poe, not Mar. Grace has not done anything to deserve an elective post. Seriously.

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    1. True!!! Marami ng naeengganyo kay Poe kasi magaling magsalita pero hanggang dun nalang yun. Imagine kung magiging president siya. 1st family ng Pinas puro american citizen

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    2. Ang kuwento eh kaya pala magaling magsalita itong si poe eh dating member ng debate team sa college. Yan ang hindi alam ng marami.

      Sa madaling salita, kayang kaya niyang bilugin ang mga ulo natin pero wala naman talagang alam.

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  16. wala nmn sa language na ginamit kundi sana naging direct to the point ung sinasabi nila.

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  17. Pinanood ko talaga ang video hanggang sa huli. Napaka arrogante ni Teddy Locsin. Tinawag yung babaeng political opponent nya na 'pruta' e mali naman at offensive ang Tagalog nya.

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  18. Sa pamilya namin, bawal ang taglish. Dapat derechong Inggles o Tagalog lang. Mala-Teddy Locsin ang mga magulang ko. Napakahigpit.

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    1. Ganun naman talaga dapat. Ganyan din ang mga magulang ko nung kabataan ko. Kung ingles, ingles. Kung tagalog tagalog. Nakakabastos daw kasi sa kausap mo kung halimbawa nag iingles siya at tagalog ang sagot mo. O kaya e nagtatagalog siya't sagot mo naman ay ingles.

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  19. manong ted maganda sana intensyon kaso sablay lang,naiitindihan ko pinupunto mo pero sana gandahan mo pagsasabi sa susunod.

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    1. Nagpaligoy-ligoy din kasi siya, pero ang kaibahan English gamit niya. Sana nag-Hemingway style din siya.

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  20. Teddy locsin has a point. When poe answered duterte's question pati pggising sa umaga sinali nya. She could just have answered straight to the point. Pinahaba nya lang sagot. Sa huli inulit lang ulit ni mayor ang tanong sa kanya.

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    1. Bumili lang ng time si Poe para pag isipan kung ano ang isasagot nya. Hindi sya kasi prepared sa ganung question.

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    2. dahilan na ba yun para ganunin nya ang pagsasalita ng tagalog?.

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    3. Hindi 2:16. Pero kasi maaring ginamit lang ni poe ang tagalog para di mapansin na d niya alam ang isasagot niya. Playing the nationalistic card si ate grace.

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  21. Sana sinabi mo na lang na maging direct to the point sila. Hindi mo na dinamay pa ang pagtatagalog. Ikaw ang hindi direct to the point!

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  22. Teddy's main point is this: When the presidential candidates used Tagalog when discussing their reactions, comments, remarks etc during the debate, they went around in circles. It was not direct to the point.

    If one used the english language, direct to the point na sana. Like what he said, Hemingway style. Few words and to the point.

    TERM OF THE WEEK: DIRECT TO THE POINT

    Hahahahahaha!

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  23. Bat ba ang daming kuda nitong tao na toh? Ano bang nagawa nya to make a significant change in the country?

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    1. 1:29 Obviously, you don't know Teddy. Aral-aral din minsan wag puro social media ha.

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    2. 2:33 So ano nga daw? Sino sya? Obviously di nya kilala kaya nagtatanong. Sabi nga ng lolo Teddy dapat straight to the point ang sagot.

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    3. nagmemenopause si teddy


      -DONYA VICTORINA

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  24. Yan mayabang ka kase teddy boy. Oh asan na mga supporters niya na todo defend sa kanya

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  25. Sabi nya English or Tagalog basta diretso ok lang...Nafufrustrate lang sya na tagalog ang sagot tapos di pa malinaw

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    1. Oo nga may point naman siya

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    2. Ang galing niya magpalusot no?
      Eh dati niya pa pinaglalaban yang dapat english ang gamitin na salita sa debate. Obviously hes a smart man. Magaling magdahilan pag nagkamali, hugas kamay agad ang peg kagaya lang din ng ibang politicians

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    3. Sige 10:00 ipaglaban mo din ang paggamit ng tagalog sa debate. Pero dapat pati mga terminolohiyang banyaga pati konteksto nito maisalin ng tama at alam dapat ng mga tagapakinig ha.

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  26. Teddy, Teddy, Teddy... English man or Tagalog ang gamitin is a non-issue. Di lang nasagot ni Grace yung tanong kasi di nya napag-aralan yun. Textbook answers si Grace. Situational ang tanong ni Duterte so di nya naiexpress ng tama yung sagot nya kasi di nya alam ang dapat isagot.

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    1. Di nasagot ni Grace kasi di nya din alam ang isasagot and yet nag aambisyon syang maging Presidente?! Ikaw na din nagsabi, situational ang tanong, eh di nabisto tuloy kung ano ang kakayahan ng pag iisip ng isang Grace Poe!

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  27. Walang kinalaman ang lengwahe sa pagiging paligoy ligoy. You can go around he bush in English, as well as in Tagalog, or in any language. Mali ang point mo. Tell them straight na huwag paligoy-ligoy, hindi yung sasabihin mong bawal dapat ang Tagalog sa debate kasi paligoy-ligoy. Ikaw na ang maysabi, Luchi was able to speak direct, clear and concise in Tagalog. Nasa takbo ng pagiisip yon at sentence condtruction, wala sa lengwahe yun.

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    1. Agree. Pwede ka ring magpaligoy sa English. Akala ko pa naman matalino 'to si Ted. Haha

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    2. Oo nga. Parang pambobola lang naman yan kahit anong gamitin pa basta maganda sa pandinig sa nililigawan mo.

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  28. T@e kang elitista ka! (By god, Mr. Locsin, you are absolutely right! Tagalog does sound manly when it's short and clipped. Thanks for the heads up!)

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  29. I dont believe it is the language but our politicians and politics. Yun election dito sa pinas ay a big part drama, showmanship. A big number mga galing sa hirap (kuno), mga inapi, prosecuted, mga nag papangap magbubuhat ng gulay sa palengke, matatanm ng palay, nag kakamay sa pagkain atbp.

    That is our politics puro "palabas" or showmanship. Teddy shld not expect clear, straight forward sentences but rather expect flowery, overly dramatic ones.

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    1. Flowery overly dramatic sentences. Expertise nila grace at chiz ito. Tingnan mo ang nilalaman, nganga. Lol.

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  30. 'di sana sinabi mo na lang na mag-direct to the point.. dinamay mo pa tagalog! ilulusot pa eh.. think before you click stupid.

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  31. Bakit hindi siya ang nag "Direct to the Point "? Dinadamay niya pa ang language natin.

    Napu-frustrate ako sa mga pa-english. Yung mga friends ko proud na proud pa na hindi nakaka-intindi ng tagalog ang anak nila. Yes. Knowing english is an advantage. Pero di ba mas maganda na mahalin pa rin natin ang sariling wika.

    Ako proud ako na multi-lingual ako. Kapag pinu-puna ako sa work (i'm from US) sa accent ko. Sinasabi ko talaga na "Sorry, i can't help it. English is not my Native language'..Ganoin! Haha!

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  32. True. Tagalog is too evasive and flowery, not clear and to the point.

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    1. Seryoso ka? You can ALSO speak in English and not be on point. Hindi nasa language yun.

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    2. Don't blame the language, blame the user.

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    3. No. Hindi lang sila comfortable sa English that's why they can't do it. kaya nga may term na "beat around the bush".

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    4. Juske teh wala naman sa tagalog at english, kung pano ka nga magconstruct ng sentence yan. Parang essay sa school kailangan may 100000words sa essay mo e hindi umabot e di dadagdagan! Gusto nyo lang talaga ilusot ung mga "tweets" nya, teka nabasa nyo ba?.

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    5. Pwede din ako mag salita ng meron bulaklak sampaguita sa aking bibig, gamit ang Tagalog. Di ba mas mabango? Nasa tao lang yan pano nila gamitina ang sarili nilang wika. Hindi sa lengguwahe ang problema, ang mga taong hindi alam gamitin ang sariling wika.

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  33. He is right. Tagalog kasi ang daming arte, hindi klaro

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    1. Di lang kayo marunong mag-eliminate ng mga salita, kung ano ang pampaganda at sa hindi. Che!

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  34. Teddy was saying that since these people speak Tagalog well, they should be able to talk clearly and to the point. Instead they talk nonsense, hence, they should have used English to get their points across more clearly.

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    1. English won't help if the person's nature is to talk BS before going to the point.

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    2. How ca you be so sure that those politicians can be direct to the point if they use English to communicate? If they don't know the answer they will respond with flowery words whether they speak Stagalog, English, Spanish or Swahili. Who cares what languagr they will use in s debate? Be precise and direct to the point, period. Bakit kailangan pang idamay ang national language? Pinoy ka, pinoy siya, pinoy ang botante. Klaruhin ang sinasabi para maintindihan ka.

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    3. Isalin mo nga ang mga sinabi mo sa Tagalog? di ko maiintindihan e. Pinoy ka, bakit di mo subukan sumulat ng Tagalog? It doesn't matter what language they are using in the national debate. Nasa tao kung ano talaga ang gusto nyang sabihin, pwede naman sabihin din na direstso sa Tagalog, bakit Ingles pa?

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  35. wag ka manuod ng ph debates. manuod ka sa cnn debate nila trump ted cruz at hillary buernie

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  36. Pilipinas kong mahal.May punto naman si Teddy Locsin Opinyon niya iyon .Pero dapat inisip niya na mas marami ang nakakaintindi sa ating sariling wika.At ang debate ay dito sa Pilipinas ginagawa.Alalahanin natin palagi si Gat Jose Rizal sa kanyang sinabi na "Ang hindi magmahal sa sariling WIKA,daig pa ang hayop at malansang isda.

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  37. Exactly. Hindi wika ang factor kundi ang pagiging paligoy-ligoy. Plus, the debate was meant for the ears of Filipino masses, natural lang na gumamit ng wikang naiintindihan ng nakararami.

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  38. Kapag tinanong ang isang kandidata sa Miss Universe, Hindi ba't ang unang turo ay bumati at i-acknowledge ang nagtatanong hindi lamang para sa salitang respeto at paggalang ito rin ay upang makapaglaan ng oras magisip sa tamang sasabihin. SALITANG KOLOKYAL- tinanong ako shet, nahirapan ako kaya nagthank u muna ko para mapaganda ko sasagot ko. (IMAGE and STRATEGY) Hindi lamang sa pagiging kumportable. PALIGSAHAN ang ELEKSYON gusto nilang manalo. DUTERTE sa Kahit anong wika, maiintindihan ko pagkat intensyon ang pinakikinggan ko.

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  39. A good debate is not about language but to express the debater's opinion and facts.

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    1. But the debater should have a good grasp of the language to clearly and concisely convey their thoughts. But in this instance maybe the fault lies in the lack of coherent thoughts in some of the debaters. Lol.

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  40. I agree with Ted Locsin on this one. I think the masses understand English too kahit hindi hs or college grad. Very inspiring siguro mawitness natin esp ng mga kabataan ang galing nila to communicate their reasoning and arguments in English. Concise language tlga sya, unlike tagalog na mabulaklak.

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    1. Baka hindi sila proficient in Tagalog. Kung tutuusin maraming elitista ang di marunong magtagalog puro Taglish o Ingles ang gamit.

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  41. hoy teddy boy, hindi lahat ng botante eh nakakaintindi ng english language kaya mainam na wikang Filipino ang gamitin sa mga debate para mas lalong maunawaan ng mga nanunuod sa buong Pilipinas at sa buong mundo kung saan may Filipino at masuri nila kung sino ang karapat dapat nilang iboto..ok lang na mag-english paminsan minsan pero sana sa paraang mauunawaan ng mga tao.
    majority pa rin ng mga pinoy ay nagtatagalog at iilan lang silang mga maaarteng english ang ginagamit na language sa pang araw araw nilang buhay.

    -=Amoy Anghel=-

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  42. The guy does have a point. Nakakairita naman talaga ang mga sagot nila. Mabulaklak. Beating around the bush esp. Poe

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    1. Puppet lang kasi si Poe kaya pag wala sa script nya ang tanong, lost ang dating.

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  43. Kung paligoy ligoy man sila, hindi dahil sa language yun, nasa nagsasalita yun. Walang kinalaman ang wika jan. Pwede namang maging straight to the point na nagtatagalog. Meron din namang mga nagsasalita ng Ingles pero hindi mahuli huli ang punto (like sa mga beauty pageants etc.) So your point is invalid sir.

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  44. Tagalog is not spoken by the majority, actually, it's Cebuano! Ginawa lang ng mga nasa Batasan na gawin na national language ang tagalog kasi tinuturo na ito sa mga escuelahan noon pa.

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    1. Tama ito. May historical basis ka.

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  45. Agree with teddy..that was debate...their not selling some products..you should get to the point hindi ung sumi sales talk pa.meaning maraming paligoy ligoy

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  46. useless makinig sa pun****ng toh .... no wonder hindi sya tumakbo sa gobyerno ... arrogant old bastard na kulang sa pansin .... lagi kaya yan nagpapa pansin .... and hes loving every attention he gets sa tuwing ma twe-tweet sya .....

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  47. Tagalog or English...be concise and direct to the point. Its not about the language. Both languages have some forms of flowery words.

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  48. The point of debates is for everyone to understand the issues and each candidate's stand on those issues. When a high percentage of the electorate speak tagalog, it's not only elitist, its counter intuitive to the purpose of debates to insist the candidates only speak English.

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  49. Why don't Locsin instead just tell the debaters to go straight to the point right in their faces. Anebe nemen kese yeng ebe jen puro talak wala namang sense

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