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Monday, April 13, 2015

Letter from a Reader: Family Wants Justice. Death of Pregnant Mother and Her Baby Due to Medical Malpractice

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Dear Fashion Pulis,

I am a 31 year-old mother. I wish to share through your blog the plight of my dear friend who suffered and died under medical malpractice at Mary Johnston Hospital (Tondo). She was 38 weeks pregnant with regular prenatal check ups, and generally had a healthy, normal pregnancy. Here is the sequence of events:

On March 23, she was 38 weeks pregnant – was admitted to Mary Johnston due to coughing and vomiting. Her cervix had also dilated by 3cm.

The next day, her dilation was not progressing, and cough was not improving as well. At this time, she was diagnosed with pneumonia and had fever. My friend discussed the option of delivering via caesarian section (CS) to her OB. However, the OB said that my friend could deliver normally when the infection and fever would have subsided. At this point, I got really worried. Although I do not have medical background, common sense dictates that the best option was to deliver the baby immediately and treat the mother afterwards. There were no other complications mentioned to the family.

March 24 – my friend was started on antibiotics to treat her pneumonia, no improvement so far.

March 25 – she was already given oxygen since she could not breath normally, couldn't even lie down as she felt congested. Her husband and mother pleaded with the OB to perform CS operation already to end her suffering. But again, the OB refused - reasoned out that patient needed to be treated first for her pneumonia and insisted the she could deliver normally after. This, still did not make sense to me.

Treatment for pneumonia went on but without improvement. In the middle of all this, as if to make matters worse, said  OB went on a medical leave herself because of an emergency operation done on her. Patient's case was thus transferred to a fellow OB.

Her bag of water broke at 12AM of March 29. My friend was already hallucinating at this time, perhaps due to infection and lack of oxygen. Still, there was no sense of urgency from the medical people involved, the CS operation was done close to 7 hours later. The baby was dead upon delivery! His death certificate indicates perinatal asphyxia ( inadequate intake of oxygen ) as the cause of death.

The mother’s battle continued after her baby’s death. She was still unconscious, and was put on respirator. We were told that her organs were failing. Her heart enlarged, and was not pumping blood normally. She had little to no blood pressure and her kidneys could not eliminate excess water. The next viable option then was to do emergency dialysis to help alleviate the situation. We were already panicking when the attending physician had the gall to ask us if we knew of any surgeon who could perform the procedure! The official cause of death was pulmonary embolism, she passed away on the same day at 9:43PM.

FP, my dear friend's family are in unspeakable pain and grief at this time having lost 2 family members. We appeal that through this letter, you can help us expose this horrible incident and make those irresponsible people pay for their appalling negligence! We need justice!

Respectfully, 
Melany

Note: Letter edited. Names of people involved were withheld to protect their interest. Fashion PULIS is open to the administration/management of Mary Johnston Hospital to air their side of the story.

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254 comments:

  1. My heart... it hurts. I can't even.

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    1. Goodness, the fact na may pneumonia dapat nai-CS na si Mommy. Kasi yung kapatid ko nga pain reliever lang ayaw nyang uminom kasi nasabay ang pagsakit ng wisdom tooth nya sa pregnancy, antibiotics pa kaya. Nakakaloka! I know someone who suffered a miscarriage dahil di niya alam na buntis sya tapos uminom sya ng antibiotics. Pneumonia pa yan so malamang matapang na klase yan ng antibiotics. Kailangan makulong ang may sala at mapasara na yang ospital na yan kung di lang sya ang mag nanay na namatay sa ospital na yan. Condolence to the family. :(

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    2. Im a nurse by profession po,an operating room nurse po. In the medical point of view po. Kase, hindi po mabibigyan ng decision for CS since, as mentioned, the patient was suffering from pneumonia. It will be a high risk for her dahil mako compromise po ang lungs sa mga anesthetic medications.,which may lead to death intraOp.
      Regarding sa 3cms cervical dilatation pa lng eh bakit d na po agad na CS,.. Baka po kase, walang indication that time na dapat siyang i CS. And kailangan din po kase i take into consideration ang treatment ng pneumonia.
      Regarding po sa antibiotics, marami na pong safe for pregnant women na antibiotics available.
      Siguro po ang question is yung leave decision ng OB in the middle of the crisis.
      And sa mga nag comment po, sana po let's not be too judgemental in the sense that kino condemn na po ang buong hospital and ang pagsalita po ng pangit sa TUNDO.
      Im not in any way connected with Mary Johnston Hospital.
      Pero, I'm from Tondo. Thank you po and Condolence po sa family.
      God bless po sa ating lahat.

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    3. Operating nurse ka lang at wala kang kaalam-alam about delivery procedures.nanganak ka ba o nabuntis man lang?alam mo bang yun amniotic fluid ang sourcs ng oxyfen ng bata at pag pumutok ang water bag need na mailabas kagad ang bata.nun manganak ako at pumutok water bag ko nagfetal distress at nakakain ng meconium yun bata dahil after 2hours pa pumayag magcs yun ob kahit nilalagnat na ako.kundi pa ako nakiusap na ics ako baka namatay ang baby ko

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  2. Same hospital kung saan namatay ang friend ko. Buntis din hinihika na ayaw pa din i CS patay din ang baby nya. Sa Tondo tawag nila dyan 'Money' Johnston Hospital.

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    1. Correct! 20k pa ang "acceptance fee" nila. Even kami, we had bad experience jan, years ago, a dear friend was rushed, pero gusto nila ipa-admit namin at mag-deposit daw kami ng 20k, we told them wala kaming cash, they told us to use our credit card.. when we said na ililipat namin un friend namin, hindi na nila inasikaso at bahala na daw kami kumuha ng pagsasakyan sa friend namin! naku naku naku!

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  3. Condolence po. Comment lang po ako dun sa "We were already panicking when the attending physician had the gall to ask us if we knew of any surgeon who could perform the procedure!" Ganun po talaga kagawian na magtanong kung may kilalang surgeon/doktor, hinde naman sa dahil tinatanong kayo dahil walang available na surgeon sa ospital, baka lang kasi may kilala kayo para sa kanya i-refer ang surgery. Pwede kasing mas alam nung kilala nyo yung history ng patient dahil naging patient na siya dati nito or baka friend/family nyo yung doktor at mas kampante kayo sa doktor na iyon.

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    1. What??It's an emergency situation.I had an emergency situation myself.My family was never asked such dumb question.My hosp. where I passed out is not a Neuro specialist,no time was wasted I was transferred immediately to another hosp. capable of doing an emergency Craniotomy.
      Pangatwiranan pa ba ang malaking kapabayaan ng hospital?

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    2. Baka po kasi the fact na walang neurosurgeon sa ospital na yun eh kaya di na kayo tinanong kung may kilala kayo. And di ko po dinedefend ang kapabayaan ng ospital, sinasabi ko lang po na madalas talagang tinatanong yun sa mga ganitong sitwasyon. Isang salitang sagot lang naman sa tanong na tinanong nya: Meron or Wala. Kung wala, tatawagan agad ang naka-deck na surgeon para dumating at gawin ang procedure, kung meron tatawagan ang kilala ng pamilya na doktor para dumating at gawin ang procedure. Sa case nyo po kasi wala talagang tatawagin kahit anong mangyari kasi complicated case ang intracranial bleed at malalaking ospital lang ang may capability na mag craniotomy kasi di lahat may neurosurgeon.

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    3. what they ethically do is ask if you know a surgeon out of respect to that surgeon if ever you are his patient. if you dont know any then they will refer you to someone they know

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    4. Wala namang mali sa pagtatananong ng ganun. It's always been patient's choice. Nung naalarma na sila at di kampante sa management ng physician, nagrequest for transfer to another facility nalang sana sila and sought for second opinion. Kasi kung talagang ang buntis ay may prenatal check-up, di sya nagkaroon ng pneumonia. Seriously, mahirap gumawa ng procedure pag may problema sa baga ang ooperaha. She'll be undergoing anesthesia ang prior to that kelangan ng CardioPulmonary Clearance. The significant others have the will to transfer the patient if wala talaga silang tiwala sa OB. And i guess, it is nobody's will na mamatayan ng pasyente.

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    5. I am a registered nurse and i never encountered such scenerio..bkt p kelangang tanungin ang pamilya kng my kakilala cla?dpat hosp pdn ang mgrerefer s pamilya kng sang hosp cla pwede mgpunta kng d nla kya ihandle ang case..and being a mom myself,ob q ang negdecide na mg emergency cs aq kc ngkaron n ng fetal distress ang baby q..her heartbeat dropped to 85bpm..dpat dr at hosp ang nkakaalam what's best for their patients..

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    6. ^You're wrong. Hindi madalas na tinatanong 'yan most importantly during an emergency situation. Besides, keyboard warrior ka lang? sa lahat ng sinabi, 'yan lang ang napansin mo? gosh!

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    7. ABa anon 119 nagmamagaling ka na nars. Tawag dian Courtesy...antimano tinatanong kng may kakilala kayo kahit pahapyaw lng. Either yes or no lang ang sagot. No offense meant...kng maka react ka naman parang ang babastos ng mga doctor e keyboard warrior ka nga lng daw sabi ni 206....

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    8. Dear alleged registered nurse, may hospital experience ka ba? Or ER exposure? Kasi protocol yan, even/especially for emergencies. Syempre if you have a surgeon na, it will make things easier and quicker, as your surgeon already knows your history. Also, procedures like CS are decided by both parties, the doctor and the patient. Kung may isang party na hindi mag-aagree, they can't proceed. If they weren't satisfied with their OB's decision, they should've sought a second opinion immediately.
      I'm not defending the hospital's and the doctor's negligence (Hell, I don't even know the whole story), I'm just trying to point out that your argument is making nurses look bad.

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    9. Anonymous 1:19pm: bk po di kayo nagduduty sa ER. Policy po tlg yun to ask the patient kung may doctor cla, even in emergency situation. It's always an informed choice. Nakapagduty ako sa 2 big hospitals in mla, ganun din ang patakaran. At JCIA (internationally) accredited pa yung mga yun. There are two sides in every story. Hintayin muna natin ang side ng OB at hospital

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    10. 1:19, if youre a nurse and worked in the hospital then you should know better.

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  4. Kasuhan ang OB at ospital sa lahat ng paraan na alam ninyo. Kung kailangan lumapit sa TV at radyo pati kila Tulfo gawin ninyo ng hindi na maulit ito

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    1. Go! Help them akala mo nasa medical field ka kung maka.accuse ah...

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    2. Have you heard the whole story? Are you there that time to say there was malpractice? Theres always two sides of the story.

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  5. Ganun pala yun nangyari.nakaka sad naman.member sya ng group na member din kami at very excited talaga sya na manganak at 1st baby nila sana..nakapag post pa sya the day na na confine sya..sana makamit nila ang justice..iniisip ko lang bakit ayaw i cs? Yun iba nga na c cs dahil request ni patient at may iba naman na doktor namemera..hay rip..

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    1. Sa bfp ba yun? May nakita din kasi ako yung hubby naman niya yung nag msg na wala na si wifey at yung baby.

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    2. Oo i think this is the same story as dun sa hubby na nagshare sa bfp group. Sana nilipat na lang nila ng hospital kung nagduda na sila sa umpisa. Sana na-CS na siya nung 1st day pa lang. I dont know bkit iniinsist ng OB na normal eh gusto na nga ng CS???? Samantalang yung OB ko sa Asian, naglabor lang ako ng 7 hrs, CS na agad ako.

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    3. nakita ko din yun. My heart breaks at kitang kita mo dun how cheerful at happy she is tapos ganito pala mangyayari.

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    4. Yes s bfp un. Nabanggit naman nung husband n dun n hospital un. Nakakalungkot naman yan. Hope justice will prevail.

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    5. bakit parang feeling ko ito yung sister ng classmate ko nung elementary!? nag-post din kasi classmate ko last March na dead na nga Sister nya & yung baby. Nakaka-sad naman..:(

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    6. May clearance kasi before mag surgery, kasama dun cardiopulmonary clearance. Since may pneumonia sya kaya di sya pinayagan. Ang problema lng dapat nasa intensive care sya para macheck kung ok pa si mommy lalo na si baby. Kapag sobrang nabago na ang ang heart rate ni baby, doon gagawin ang emergency cs. Kaso sa tingin ko, walang nakatutok sa kanya na healthcare professional

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    7. Mahirap din kasi mag opera na may sakit yung nanay. Risky din. Nung ma cs ako and i have severe coughing i was crying the whole confinement dahil every cough i make is like my sutures were popping out. Ay ewan. Kung alam nila na umalis ob or di sila sinusunod, sana nagpasecond opinion or lipat hospital na lang.

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    8. Yes. Nakaka sad talaga lalo na pag nakita mo yun post nya ng gamit ni baby etc.saka excited na talaga sya to breastfeed.ang sakit nun sa family lalo na kay hubby.sana maliwanagan ang issue na to.kung may dapat man managot sana makuha nila ang justice

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    9. Kailangan ng cardio-pulmonary clearance bago magperform any surgery like cs kasi under anesthesia ang patient and maaring mag fail ang heart and lungs if hindi ok ang condition ng mga vital organs na yun.. I think may reason naman si ob na pagalingin muna ang pneumonia.. Also pag pinush ang normal delivery mahihirapan din yung patient huminga kaya cs talaga dapat yun.. Sana nag ingat nalang si mommy para di nahawaan ng sakit while being pregnant.. Marami talagang pwedeng mangyari if hindi healthy ang mommy during pregnancy lalo na on the first and third trimester.

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    10. i think i know her na, nakakaiyak naman talaga ang ngyari. they were all so excited to their firstborn sana. nakahanda na mga gamit, everything. nakapagpost pa nga sa fb the time na asa hospital na sya. pero bakit nagkaganun?! nakakaiyak. nakakaawa. :'(

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    11. Yes... She is my cousin's wife.

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    12. She's also a member of breastfeeding pinay. Now I know the real story. Her family should do everything to acquire justice. Managot ang dapat managot. Sobrang nakakapanghinayang. Kahit di ko sila kilala personally, affected ako sa nangyari sakanila. Ang sakit sakit lang kase. Yung excitement at happiness na dapat ay nararanasan na nila ngayon ay napalitan ng paghihinagpis dahil sa pagkawala nilang dalawa.

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    13. sana managot kung sino talaga ang may kasalanan.siguro ngtiwala sila dun sa ob nila kaya hindi na nila naisip na ilipat ng ibng hospital.

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  6. DOH should thoroughly inspect and investigate this so called hospital. Registered nurses and doctors ba talaga sila? Cant even imagine how their relatives are taking this. Sobrang heartbreaking

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    1. I went to the same hospital and everything was ok dahil magaling ang OB ko. Ang lesson dito ay ang maghanap ng magaling na OB at magresearch muna ng background niya kasi dalawang buhay ang nakasalalay dito. Condolence to the family.

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    2. Maraming licensed doctors and nurses sa bansa, but sad to say, iilan nalang yung talagang may concern for the patients. I'm a nurse, but I'm no longer practicing after ko mawitness and maexperience yung lack of genuine care and concern for the welfare of the patients.

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  7. I think the girl who died and lost her baby was an online seller named J. Our condolences to her family and friends.

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  8. So sad..Nakakaiyak naman. They might have at least saved the baby had the mother had an earlier CS. This is too tragic

    -frogilita dela cruz

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    1. Or both could have died earlier...

      The OB is the one who knows when is the right time to operate and not to operate...

      It's sad that it happened.

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  9. Ihighly unlikely and not advisable to do the procedure. Kung colds nga lang , doing it will compromise your respiratory system with the anesthesia. If they didnt do their best to treat the pneumonia. Yun ang kasalanan ng hospital. It would be really dangerous to perform CS in that situation baka mamatay din. If they wanted the child to be born alive, i dont know if you can tell a doctor that you will sign a waiver to do the procedure

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    1. I agree with you 1.25. It's not really fair to judge this case unless one has proper medical knowledge. All we know is the outcome is devastating for the family and friends of those who died.

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    2. Dear 3 cm na yung babae with compromised respiratory. They could have done emergency CS, to save the baby. That would have been the right thing to do. Besides that was the wishes of the family. Di sana kahit papano may isa man lang na buhay sa kanila, hindi parehong patay.

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    3. They should have admitted the patient in the hosp for close monitoring, knowing she had the infection and was closed to giving birth.

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    4. @3:07 may i ask if you have any medical background at least? I dont think even a licensed nurse has the proper knowledge to jump to any conclusions regarding the merits of the case. Anyway, 2:23 was right in saying that nobody should make any judgements regarding the case. We havent heard anything from the medical professionals involved. If you must know a subjecting a patient to a surgical procedure involving anesthesia would definitely result into respiratory depression meaning it would aggravate her breathing. So awaiting for the treatments to take effect is the right thing to do because the most important person to save here first is the mother. The doctor cannot choose between the mother or the baby.if the ob chose to do the cs definitely the mother would have suffered and died in thr process. That is against our oath as doctors. So please refrain from giving comments that you know nothing about. My condolences to the family. I absolutely understand the situation but let us not judge until we are in the situation of the medical professionals involved.

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    5. 3cm pa lng kasi, di naman sinabi na di maganda ang contraction nya at walang improvement sa pag open ng cervix at pagbaba ng bata. Di rin sinabi kung di ok un heart tone ni baby. Tama si 3:09, close monitoring any kelangan. Mahirap magjudge ng kulang ang data. Definitely, may kapabayaan dyan kung di sila namonitor ng maayos

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    6. Kung general anaesthesia ang gawin, ma-compromise pa rin ba ang respiratory system eh direcho naman sa lungs yun kasi naka intubate?

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    7. @4:28.they both died anyway.if they performed the operation at least few hours when the water bag broke.if the baby survived at least I think the pain won't be that heavy.

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    8. @11:06 oh my goodness please just shut up you're just making yourself look more idiotic with what you said. Anesthesia whether intravenous or delivered via endotracheal tube can depress respiration or aggravate breathing. Also, i have encountered patients that come in for check when they're already in severe respi distress so we dont know what her condition was before she was admitted.

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    9. Doktor ka ba 409 kasi parang hindi base sa disrespectful comments mo at malamang isang tao ka lang na sa taas pa nagmamarunong. Di ka na nga lang pinatulan ng mga inaaway mo. Mega tangol ka pa sa ginawa eh 2 nga namatay. Granting nag CS baka isa o wala pang namatay. Iyon ang iisipin dahil iyon ang di ginawa. Iyong pinipilit mo at ginawa ng doktor ng ospital ay palpak. Palpak

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    10. Agree, difficult to judge a case without knowing all the details. Understandable that the family wants answers. Losing two loved ones in one admission is a huge blow, something that the father/husband may not be able to recover from. However, pulmonary embolism is an unexpected complication with a high mortality rate. Nothing can prepare you for it. If they did the CS, the mom and child still could have died, and this story will still be here in FP, albeit with a different plot. My condolences to the family. For everyone's sake, here's hoping that the medical practitioners exercised all their best efforts to save the mom and the child.

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  10. Mahirap talaga makipagsapalaran sa pipitsuging ospital. The mere fact na nasa Tondo siya di na pwedeng pagkatiwalaan. Importante ang oras sa kanya, sinayang iyong 3 days ng nagpapractice na doktor. Kasuhan iyan, malpractice na malinaw iyan. Hay ang longkot naman

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    1. Oa ka nmn maka react..baka d xa na clear for d procedure (CS) kasi my pneumonia, u need to treat first d pneumonia bago e undergo d knife and anesthesia

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    2. OA magreact? Patay ang dalawa tapos OA? Ikaw kaya patayin ko 2:28

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    3. lakas mo maka discriminate 1:33! hindi porke nasa tondo hindi na pwede pagkatiwalaan

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    4. eh pano naman yung mga wala na talagang choice at dyan na lang ang kaya? DOH should investigate ASAP

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    5. 3X ako nanganak sa MJH by CS. I don't think na pipitsugin ang hosp during those times. My family, from my parents, siblings and relatives patronized the hosp. Ewan ko lang ngayon baka iba na ang admin and medical staff.

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    6. grabe ka naman porke't nasa tondo hindi pwede na agad mapagkatiwalaan?makajudge naman. Doon ko ipinanganak ang dalawa kong baby boy at wala naman problema dahil magaling ang OB ko. Know the whole story first before making any judgement.

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    7. Pipiptisugin tlaga? tondo man ay langit din!

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    8. Ganon? Pag nasa Tondo, di na pwedeng pagkatiwalaan? Baka mga angkan don, mas mayaman pa kesa sayo. Che! Wag ka maggeneralize. Yes, we symphatize with the family pero to blame the hospital just because it's in Tondo? Anong klaseng utak yan?

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    9. tama, sa mga wala sa medical field may tinatawag kasi na cardio-pulmonary clearancw bago ka pwedeng operahan malamng bagsak sya sa pulmonary aspect dahl s pneumonia kaya nagtry na pagalingin muna pneumonia nya dahl high risk na operahan sya ng my ganun baka ang ending e same din kung pinush yun

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    10. doctor kaba ? .. and dont judge too much doent mean na nasa tondo di mapapagkatiwalaan .. and.d hosp itself sobrang tagal na tita ko dun din nanganak via c section at safe naman ang baby at 14 yo na ngayon at may 2 side lagi ang story .. alamin muna pareho at lalo wag magconclude agad kung wala tayong knowledge ukol don

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    11. Pag ikaw mamatay kahit mag-oa oa to the max ahat ng bakla sa pinas inde ka na mabubuhay 2:28.kaya umayos ka.

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    12. i dont think na pipitsugin ang hosp. kasi yung boss ko dati na owner ng company mismo jan sya nagpapadoctor.

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    13. Obviously, wala ka sa medical field. Matagal na yang hospital, mas matanda pa sa akin. Kung pipitsugin yan, I believe dapat wala na yan ngayon. Case-to-case basis lagi sa decision making ng doctor. The blog lacks data. We cannot judge based on the given story. Common misconception ng mga tao, pagkabigay ng antibiotics, within a day dapat may improvement na. It may take 2-3 days before you see improvement. Pwedeng kulang sa supportive treatment ang staff. Pwedeng proper referral system ay hindi nagawa. Not all the time nasa hospital ang doctor, at nurses/midwives ang nag momonitor. Still, I feel sorry for the loss of a family. It needs further investigation.

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    14. Depende lng po talaga s doctor.. dyn din aq nanganak s 3 kids q pero d aq iniwan ng ob q lage xa nkmonitor sa aqn. Sana mbgyan ng justice ang family nila.

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    15. 5:06 i dont need to be in the medical field or be a doktor quakquak to know a pipitsuging hospital from not. ikaw lang ang doktor na papayagang mag antibiotic ang buntis hahah.

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    16. May antibiotic talaga na pwede sa buntis at lactating mother

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    17. You discriminate mga taga Tondo but ikaw mismo magaspang ang ugali. Hahaha. How ironic.

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  11. RIP.. We went to the same hs. Never thought I'd learn about the cause of her death here in fp. Thoughts and prayers to the whole family :(

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  12. I think her friend caught an infective pneumonia. Those kind is contagious if not treated properly, especially in the Philippines so backward health system. With that being said, her body could not handle the pregnancy and miscarriage...

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  13. May their souls rest in peace.. nakakalungkot ang nangyari sa friend mo Sis. Lalo n ung baby.. sna makamit ninyo ung katarungan.

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  14. I have a niece who have colds when they did a surgery on her, naparalize legs below at d na makakita isang mata. Maybe the anesthesiologist would not like to give anestheria sa situation nya. Pnuemonia pa. Cardiac arredt din yun. Lesson to everyone on giving birth and delikadong surgeries, sa reputable hospital dapat at good doctors.

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    1. At di lang un, ingatan nila sarili nila kapag pregnant sila. Kung maari, Iwasan ang crowded places at may sakit. Magmask at maghugas ng kamay madalas kung pupunta sa mataong lugar.

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    2. I remember when I had a surgery on my leg 6 years ago, I had to get a clearance first from a pulmonologist because I have asthma, even prescribed a turbohaler a week before the surgery. Sana lang nung nag-umpisa palang ang ubo nagpacheck-up na agad sya, but it's too late na. Condolence to the whole family. :(

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  15. Talaga naman pong tini.treat muna ang pasyente bago buksan. Lalo na pneumonia wd fever, hindi bibigyan ng clearance for CS ang kaibigan nyo. Yun lang baka
    grabe na pneumonia kaya di kinaya ng gamot agad. Mukang di agad nagpunta sa doktor ang friend nyo for her persistent cough...

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    1. My point too 2:04. Bka nga matagal n ung ubo tpos hndi npa check up. Pneumonia kasi ngaun hndi n ung typical n may lagnat lang at ubo. I had pneumonia last nov and di ko alam until nagpa xray ako. Sipon lang at parang allergy ung ubo ko then pneumonia n pla. Lesson sa mga buntis kung meron mang sakit or sama sa pakiramdam nyo e pa check up nyo n agad. Prevention is better.

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    2. I agree. Kahit simpleng ubo pag buntis punta agad sa ob . Bat umabot sa pneumonia.

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    3. That's true. We cannot just go under the knife without clearance kasi baka sa operating room magkacomplications. Hard to judge without complete medical information. It was unfortunate though that the patient passed away. Rest in peace.

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    4. Tama, kung may pneumonia na upon admission kahit ano pang operation is very high risk sa complications. sa mga nagcocomment huwag maging 1-sided dahil hindi naman natin ang overall assessment, pananawa lang yan ng may limited knowledge.

      Maganda ang Mary Jhonston Hospital kasi tertiary na sya, kung may pagkukulang man e ang pre-natal check up.

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    5. Agree. It's so easy to give opinions when you don't really know what you're talking about. Hindi pwede operahan someone who is not well enough to survive the operation. Kaya nga siya pinapagaling. Bakit hindi siya dinala sa hospital ng masmaaga para naagapan yung pneumonia? Bakit inanity pa nila for it to reach that point. I'm not saying that's what they did, pero ang dali din i-assume na ganun nga ginawa nila.
      Let's pray for their souls. I don't believe may kasalanan ang doctor at hospital. Whoever thinks otherwise I suggest magmed din kayo para ma-asses niyo situation without feelings or bias.

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  16. oh my! condolence. lucky sister ko magaling OB nya. hypertensive sya, kya noong 8th month na nya, di na ma control bp nya, cs na kagad. kaya ok sya and the baby.....private hospital kasi yun sa qc...

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    1. Private hospital din ang Mary Jhonston Hosp. Before the war pa ma MJH na.

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  17. Emergency CS should have been performed, afterwards the mother will be treated with steroid, administration of oxygen

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    1. Hindi po pwedeng operahan ang patient if she has pneumonia...kailangan mo Ng I treat ung pneumonia bago ituloy ang operation...kahit sinong surgeon Hindi papayag...before operation nga kahit fever Lang Yan Hindi itutuloy ang operation..

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    2. Tama. Mahirp tlga oag pipitsugin ang hospital:( nasayang ang buhay nila. Condolences sa namatay:(

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    3. 2;07 You don't know what you're talking about.

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  18. Exactly 2:07. My son had pneumonia on his first and second surgery but the doctor insisted to go with the surgery because we could treat pneuoinia later. He had to be in mechanical vent for 10 days after his his first surgery due spasm caused by gen anaesthesia. Yes it is important to clear the patient before surgery, it is also important to consider the life inside the womb and its oxygen intake. It is the option of the family to do CS, why they opt not to do it? The family could sign the waiver for the risk they might encounter. Atleast they could have done something.

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    1. Tagalog na lang tayo please

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    2. Te, iCS din ba son mo? Case to case basis yan te. Sakit, edad, gender.

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    3. tama..magtagalog na lang po muna..kc ung ibang nagbabasa ng blog baka di po masyado maintindihan ang bawat comment natin..malay nyo sa bawat comment nyo makakuha cla ng idea once na maka encounter cla ng ganyang case..

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    4. Bakit hindi ka marunong magenglish?

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    5. Exactly my point 2:53. In urgent situations like these, you choose the less evil. You do whatever outweighs the benefit. Emergency CS should have been done. But it's too late now, they're both gone. So sad :-(

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    6. atih 8:30 hindi naman gumamit ng high-falluting english si madam 2:53 bakit naman sumakit ng ganyan ang bangs mo.

      -luningning

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    7. 2:10 hahahahaha agree

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    8. Fyi po, in either way mapaCS first o treatment first ang pt na me pneumonia if ang stage po nya ay chronic na o malala na more likely the outcome maybe the same. Ang pneumonia po ay skit sa baga and if the mom don't have sufficient oxygen in the body the more the baby might not have also, stabilizing the mother's condition is also a way to stabilize the baby. I don't think the OB doctor will insist on normal delivery in situations like that, I believe something is in between na di cnssbi nung sender. We must not judge the whole institution just because we heard one side of the story although, yes its quite depressing and sad to know that two lives were lost.

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    9. what if nagperform ng emergency cs then namatay din? Im sure isisisi din kc sabi ng may medical knowledge dito kelangan muna maclear sa pneumonia. Ang sasabihin naman ng ibang tao bat nag cs eh may pneomonia. Hay mga tao dito daming alam.

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  19. That's gross negligence resulting to death, on the part of the doctor. Mahirap isalang ang mga doctor sa mga ganitong sitwasyon. Kelangan nyo ng malakas na kapit. Call the attention of media. That's your only hope.

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    1. Of course not, they can always sue the doctor and the hospital naman. Usually pag ganyan all the results and info are on paper so if my gross negligence maproprove yan.

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    2. maghope ka na may pipiyok. Kasi takipan yan kung talagang may problem, kawawa kapag isinisi yan sa nurse na may effective intervention pero di documented. Pwede kasing idahilan na di nagreport ng maayos ang nurse sa doctor kanya lumala lng kalagayan ni mother at baby.

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    3. Trial by publicity te? Kelangan ng expert witness sa ganitong kaso and I think it's hard for a doctor na ibisto ang isa pang doctor. Hippocratice oath, remember?

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  20. Oo i think this is the same story as dun sa hubby na nagshare sa bfp group. Sana nilipat na lang nila ng hospital kung nagduda na sila sa umpisa. Sana na-CS na siya nung 1st day pa lang. I dont know bkit iniinsist ng OB na normal eh gusto na nga ng CS???? Samantalang yung OB ko sa Asian, naglabor lang ako ng 7 hrs, CS na agad ako.

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  21. OMG! This is the cousin of my bilas! It's their first baby pa nmn :(

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  22. IMO bka hindi lng na treat ng maayos ung pneumonia thus leading to complication na and death. Minimonitor nman ung fetal movement and contractions if u r in labor room. Di naman kasi basta nagpeperform ng cs if walang indication that risk both mother and fetus. Condolence sa family.

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  23. Nabasa KO sa fb tungkol dito. It's kinda weird pla when u know the person involve tpos nabsa mo dito sa FP. I don't know her personally but she is my schoolmate. I hope the grieving family will be given justice. Masakit mawalan ng mahal sa buhay lalo n dalawa p ang nawala. My condolences to the family. May their soul rest in peace.

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  24. Name and shame the responsible people!!!

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    1. Teh sige, pag ikaw din napagbintangan, kahit wala pang solid proof and resulta yung trial, we'll also do public shaming sayo.

      Taas ng IQ mo teh!

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  25. Hindi po dahil 3 cm na e pwede na manganak, normal man or cs. The fact na may pneumonia si mother is the very reason why the doctor decided on "treating the pneumonia first before delivering the baby". The likelihood of the baby contracting the bacteria is high and the chances of the baby surviving is low. 38 weeks pa lang si mother. She can deliver until 42 weeks. It is generally safer for the mother to be treated then deliver the baby than, have pneumonia and still deliver. It puts them both at risk. 3-4 days po ang antibiotic before mag work. It is possible that the mother had it before she even called for professional help kaya ganun na lang kabilis ang turn of events. This is a really sad story. But i hope we clear things first before judging negligence or malpractice agad. Condolences to the family involved

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    1. Sa pagkakaalam ko once na pumutok ang water bag ay dapat maideliver kagad ang bata dahil iyun ang source nya ng oxygen.sa tingin mo sa 7hrs na di pa nakalabas ang bata makasurvive ba yun sa loob ng tyan?need na nun huminga ng air sa labas.yun anak ko na-pneumonia din nun paglabas pero nagamot naman sya.mas gustuhin ko pa irisk na i-cs at magkasakit kesa naman parehong mamatay.

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    2. Girl, di ibig sabihin na pumutok ang BOW eh kailangan i deliver agad agad. May dry labor na tinatawag teh. Plus, di yun ang source of oxygen kung yung umbilical cord.

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    3. Case to case basis po un, hindi porke nagleak na ay kelangan ng ideliver or cs. May criteria pong sinunod.

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  26. Sana talaga makamit ang hustisya! Good job melany for airing this to Fashion Pulis! At least mas maraming makakaalam ng malpractice incident na ito.

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  27. Bring this issue to the media! Ang sakit sa dibdib nito bigtime. Naiiyak ako sa galit at awa sa mag-ina. May they rest in peace. Thing is, why didn't they bring the mother to the hospital when the time she just started to get sick. I mean simpleng ubo nga lang pag buntis ang babae checkup na agad eh. Bakit umabot sa vomitting and hard couching before she was brought to the hospital? Hinintay ba na manganganak na bago dinala sa hospital?

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  28. Don't judge the hospital, the doctors and even the nurses. I am a nurse and I am sad for what had happened. Wala naman magagawang tulong ang mga comment niyo dito, the best thing to do is pray for the familyof the deceased. Let's all pray na makita nila yung peace and judgement in God's hands, and magkaron sila ng forgiving heart despite sa mga nangyari.

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  29. I gave birth twice via CS. The time I gave birth to my second child, sobrang taas ng lagnat ko at may ubo at sipon pa, infairness sa hospital na kahit sobrang public sya, nagdecide sila agad na i-CS ako kasi daw baka maapektuhan ang baby ko. dapat managot ang hospital. before sila mag-inject ng gamot sa patient, make sure na di affected ang baby inside. :(

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    1. Mahirap di maging affected ang baby inside. The mother is supplying blood to the baby through the umbilical cord. Kaya nga pregnant women should not take any medication without prescription from a physician. Isip isip din bago mag comment.

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    2. @2:50 Doctor na nga nagprescribe di ba? nasa hospital na yung setting. Di naman nag self medicate yung mother. Isip ka din te.

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    3. Ibang case naman po ung sayo kasi yung sa kanya full blown pneumonia at very susceptible sa complications iyon kapag tinuloy ang operation. In ur case it could be an ordinary cough with colds lang. Meron din pong neglect in terms of pre.natal care si misis. Tingnan nyo naman ang lagay nya nung pumunta sa hospital considering na 1stbaby nya yun. I was extra careful that time. Makulit ako sa OB ko.

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    4. Malamang iba yung ubo mo sa pneumonia. Pneumonia is not just a simple cough. Katamihan ng may malubhang sakit pneumonia ang cause of death due to complications.

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    5. 7:14 sinagot ko lng ang sinabi ni 5:49 na dapat hindi affected ang baby inside pag nag inject ng gamot sa patient. Affected naman talaga ang baby kahit anong iinject sa mother or iingest ng mother dahil nga galing sa mother ang blood supply ng baby. Hindi ko naman sinabi na nagself medicate ang patient sa case na ito. Sinabi ko lng na kaya nga dapat hindi nagtitake ng gamot ang buntis na walang prescription ng doctor dahil ang doctor ang nakakaalam kung anong klaseng gamot ang pwede inumin ng buntis na hindi harmful para sa baby. Gets mo?

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  30. Please someone help investigate this case and this hospital... Marami na daw namamatay na baby dito pati ung kasunod nyang manganak, patay din ang baby.. ibibigay nalang sa father ang baby sa labas ng room na patay and malinis na ang baby nakabalot, and pati tindera sa labas ng hospital sabi namatay din ang baby nya dun pagkapanganak! Sinayang nila ang buhay sa isang iglap at kapabayaan. Sana matulungan sila....

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    1. Kahit saang hosp naman madameng namamatay. If negligence and malpractice ang reason kaya namatay mga babies and sa sobrang daming nagrereklamo eh dapat close na tong hosp na to.

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  31. Condolence BUT it's true naman na hindi basta basta pwede ioperate ang isang taon pag may pneumonia. I know you're suffering right now pero doctors are humans too, they just can't save everybody.

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  32. That is so sad. Emergency CS could have been done. At least for sure ma-save yung baby. :/

    We had an a seizing patient at 35 weeks. Diretso na agad sa OR for CS. Save yung baby kahit preemie and Mom is recovering though still seizing. I'm not belittling MDs sa Pinas but minsan, swerte2 lang din if matatapatan mo eh magaling talaga.

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    1. Eclampsia is vastly different from pneumonia. Magkaiba tlaga ng management yun. Sa eclampsia outright delivery regardless of age of gestation. Sa pneumonia it will depend on the clinical manifestation but generally medical management tlaga meaning antibiotics. Pls stop making judgments esp if wla rin nman kyo adequate information

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    2. 742. OB po ba kayo? I agree with 754 regarding the the management of eclampsia vs pneumonia. Sana po minsan bago tayo magcomment eh isip isip muna tayo kung may alam tayo.

      ~shallow rivers are noisy, deep rivers run silently~

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  33. online websites are not the new courts, it is best if you raised your concern first to the proper authorities (DOH). You can always seek the assistance of Public Attorneys Office for free legal services.

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    1. Sorry sa namatayan pero hindi tamang dito mo yan ireklamo. OR nurse ako at kulang ang info para masabing may negligence na nangyari. Prayer lng ang pwede kong i-offer.

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  34. mas ok if Isang medical practioner din ang mgpapaliwanag if there was a malpractice or not. the fact may pneumonia na cya ay delikado na she was 3cm na eh and di din nman ng progress un. And beside her OB had an emergency leave tama b? ung pinasahang ob ano gnwa? And tlgng emergency magtatanong pa ng kakilalang surgeon? Well wla akong idea ano ang mary johnston but what i have heard about that hospital hindi maganda. Mas mtutulungan cguro ung family kung investigador or kay tulfo ilapit yan.

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  35. I had very bad colds and cough din around a week or two before my EDD. Sinabi sa akin kaagad ng OB ko na kung lumala (pneumonia) CS kaagad. Thankfully magaling ang OB ko and God answered my prayer dahil ayoko ng CS onting ubo na lang after a week nakapag normal delivery ako. Sobrang sakit sa puso ng nangyari sa kanila. Nasa hospital na hindi pa naagapan. Kasama ni mommy si baby and maganda na kalagayan nila in heaven but this should not have happened.

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  36. Cough and cold per se are not indications for an emergency cs. Dapat naka fetal monitor to know the status of the baby, nakabantay da heart rate..baka namatay na siya in utero pa lang. If term na, and hirap na huminga maybe they should have decided if it was best to do an e cs already. Kung kulang sa oxygen ang mommy, kulang na rin oxygen ni baby. Or baka din may ibang sakit yung mother na hindi diagnosed na nagcontribute sa ganung outcome.

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  37. For emergency cases, pwede i-waive ang clearance basta na explain sa family ang mga risk. Kung in distress na ang mommy or baby, pinakamaganda is cs. Lalo na term naman. Pwede din naman induce ang labor, pero kung may pneumonia nga and most likely di kayanin ang labor, cs talaga.

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  38. Cp clearance muna before any major surgery

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  39. Bakit kaya di nalang induce? Para nagprogress un labor? Hindi pwede magsurgery kapag suspected infection. Hindi maclear for cardio-pulmo. Un lang public hospital walang resources

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  40. My prayers and sympathy for you and her family. Interesting case though, although maybe there are missing puzzles why it happened. From pneumonia to patient needed to be hooked on dialysis machine? Kung Pneumonia lang yan di hahantong sa ganon or maybe there are other medical problems na di nasabi. Ang hirap kasi pag may case na ganito na di detailed, di mo malaman kung talagang kasalanan ng Hospital or the case was really complicated. But again, My prayers for the unborn child and the mother who sufferes. May they rest in peace.

    _EchuserangICUnurse.

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  41. condolence to the family.....
    Sadyang napakalungkot ng mga ganitong pangyayari,hanggang kailan pa kaya magsasakripisyo ang mga mamamayang Pilipino sa mga ganitong klase ng Hospital at klase ng pamamalakad ng mga Hospital.Palagi na lamang kailangan may mangyaring di maganda o may mabiktima ng mga maling pamamalakad bago magkaroon ng maayos at mabuting serbisyo para sa mga tao.Ilang buhay pa ba ang dapat mawala o masayang para lang magising kayo sa katotohanan.Maawa naman kayo sa mga taong buo ang akala na kayo ang magliligtas sa kanila sa gitna ng kamatayan, hindi ang mahihila sa kanila papunta sa libingan.Usigin sana kayo ng konsenya nyo kung meron man........

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  42. Sue them!!! Or else mawawala lang saysay pagkamatay nung mag ina. I hope hospitals with people like this close down. And liscense of the doctor should be revoked.

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  43. Dyan din hospital namatay tatay ko. Wala talaga ako tiwala dyan sa mary johnston na yan. Saan ka nakakita hospital na ang icu nila e amoy ihi ng pusa. Tas me makikita ka nga pusa palakad lakad. Grabe sa sanitation nila ha. Eto worst nun mamatay ang tatay ko gusto nila agad agad ipakuha sa punerarya kasi wala daw sila freezer?!? Sorry po ha di ba po dapat lahat ng ospital meron nyan o sana man lang malamig ang rum ng morgue? Sa kaso ng hospital na yan ang init ng morgue nila

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  44. Sue the hospital and the OB who's responsible for the death of a very young woman and her baby.

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  45. May they rest in peace ��

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  46. These OB's should be put in jail!!! They should deliver the baby via CS immediately.

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    1. Oo, OB ka kasi kaya alam mo na emergency CS ang sagot sa problema. Bravo!

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  47. nandu0n p0 kami nung nangyari yang incident na yan,kasabayan nya p0ng nanganak anak k0...we als0 had the chance t0 talked t0 her husband and other relatives...

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  48. Matagal ng nababalita ang MJ sa kanilang poor condition and medical practises.....it could have been avoided kung noun pa lang me nagsalita na at nagreklamo..i do not know the victims personally..but one of her relative ( classmate from way back) felt really devastated..may their find peace

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  49. sue for medical malpractice and negligience... when i had my baby two amost two years ago.. i developed a fever while i was still in the labor room...immediately my doctor suggested CS because of the risk of amnionytis.. 25minutes later my little girl was delivered through CS... the fever should have already caused red flags given that the mother is akmost due... im sorry.. sorry for the loss and i hope that you push and fight.. NO SETTLEMENT! sue and remove the license of the docyor and have the hospital pay for the damages for life....

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    1. Yan ang hirap eh. Clouded un mga decisions and judgements by feelings. Kulang kulang un details sa story. Kung matagal na yun OB na nagooractice malamang madami na din sya natulungan. Pero dahil sa isang masamang pangyayari, na marahil ay talgang komplikado na, gusto agad ipakulong o ipatangal ang lisensya.

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  50. This is indeed heartbreaking. But the case is complicated po. Depending on the case, pwedeng before or after surgery itreat ung pneumonia. But then if the doctors went thru with the CS, delikado pa rin and no assurance of 1 or both of them would live, sisisihin pren ang medical staff with the reason that they should know better, when we still need to consider that there are things that are out of their control. No one has a heart that cold to neglect a dying mother and child, moreso these medical professionals who took oath of saving lives.

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  51. This is sad. CS din ako and may trangkaso that time. I can still feel the pain ng bawat ubo after ko maopera. May lagnat na baby ko nung nalabas at naduduling na ako. My family had no choice but to take the risk. Gladly, turning 2 na sya this month.

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  52. File a case against the hospital! This is not the first time that hospital was put on the spotlight for malpractice. Condolence to the Family.

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  53. Pasabugin ang Mary Johnston Hospital na yan, at patayin ang mga mahal sa buhay nung OB para maramdaman niya ang pait at sakit. An eye or an eye

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    1. Talagang kailangan idamay yung mahal sa buhay nung OB?! What a mean comment. Daig mo pa namatayan ah.

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    2. Grabe ka naman!

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    3. Sama ng ugali mo. Perfect ka siguro.

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  54. Need muna kase ng cp clearance before any kind of surgery kht nga d and c lang need clear muna with cardio and pulmo... Kase bka lalong mas unsafe din tpos ssihin padin un surgeon and anes.. Sad ang nangyari lalo sa baby.. Sana bgo p nauwi sa pneumonia napacheck muna nya ubo para d na lumala ng gnun..

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  55. di ko makita ang malpractice suit. mahirap mag judge esp at hindi natin alam ang mga detalye. baka hindi in distress ang baby sa una kaya hindi makita ang need ng emergent c section?

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    1. Nag pulmonary embolism yung mother hindi pa distress yung baby? Kaya pala namatay yung baby kase hindi pa sya distress. What an ignorant comment.

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    2. Hindi in distress ang baby kaya hindi nakita ang need for emergency cs? E ang mommy naisip mo kung ano ang lagay? Isip isip din bago magcomment.

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  56. Septic na yung mother, dehydrated due to vomiting and fever and was progressing to resp failure. She could have been put on vent right away kahit di pa nag break yung water nya and they could have performed emergency CS right then and there. Baby dying of hypoxia is indicative na nasa respi distress na ang mother at walang respi support na nakuha. Mother's kidneys had shut down due to dehydration. The baby's death could also have triggered an inflammatory reaction and clotting cascade na nag form ng blood clot (thrombus) that has become an emboli (travelling blood clot) going to the lungs, pulmonary embolism kills in less than 2 minutes.

    The fact that they waited 2 days prior to giving the mother oxygen is already a sign how weak the treatment plan was. Oxygenation and Hydration were the core interventions that could have saved these precious lives. Antibiotic therapy could have been started right after the baby was delivered. Tawagin na akong nagmamarunong but as a practicing rn, masakit sa dibdib makabasa nang mga ganitong kaso lalo na't basic abc's of saving life ay itinuturo di lang sa nurse kundi lalo na sa doktor. Nakakalungkot talaga ang healthcare system natin, its business before service in most cases.

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    1. how sure are you na magsurvive yong mother kung nagperform sila ng emergency cs? sabi mo nga septic na at dehydrated due to vomiting and fever and was progrsessing to respi failure.

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    2. This is a very sad and disturbing story. A person's life depends on the decisions, capability and training of the medical team. One mistake can cause one's life as well her unborn child. The hospital, doctors and staff should be taken to court, get punished and be held accountable for the demise of the mother and her baby.

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    3. I think walang medical practitioner na gustong mamatay pasyente nila. Kargo de consiencia nila ang ganitong pangyayari. Ikaw parcticing RN dapat hindi ka nagjudge agad agad. Magdasal ka na hindi sa yo ito mangyayari. Masakit para sa mga namatayan pero sa akala ninyo hindi rin masakit para sa mga medical practitioner na mamatayan ng pasyente? Hindi porket doctor or nurse ka kaya mo pagalingin lahat. May purpose ang lahat bakit hinayaan ng panginoon na mangyari ito. Blaming only add to peoples sufferings. Let go and let God...

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    4. Wow what a comment: Magdasal ka na hindi sa yo ito mangyayari. --- im not the RN pero i think hindi sya nagjudge ng walang basehan. Hindi nga kayang pagalingin ng doktor ang lahat,pero dapat ginawa nya ang lahat ng tamang paraan at desisyon para maisagawa ng maayos ang pagpapaanak. Kung gibawa nya ng maayos e di walang magrereklamo kaht namatay pa ang ginamot nya. Ikaw ang wag magjudge at alamin mo muna ang totoong nnagyari bago ka magcomment ng ganyan.

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    5. Kulang ang information pars magjudge

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    6. 9:44 si RN nagjudge kahit kulang sa information. Masyadong nagmamagaling. Paano kung hindi lng ito simple case of pneumonia? Bakit hindi nagrespond sa antibiotics ang patient? She is talking about hydration. Syempre SOP na yan na bibigyan ng i.v. fluids lalo na't may vomiting ang patient. Doon naman sa oxygenation, hindi naman agad2 nagbibigay ng oxygen kung ok naman ang oxygen saturation sa blood ng patient. Nagbigay kasi si RN ng kanyang conclusion sa cause of death kahit wala siyang direct contact sa patient at ang basehan lng ay ang letter sa taas.

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  57. I know her personally... :(( FP pls help them... She's a very nice person... :(

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  58. nkakkaiyak.eto pla un reason.condolence to the family.i don't know whats the real reason behind this pero isa lang masasabi ko.wala tlgang nabubuhay dyan sa hospital n yan lalo n when ur in a complicated situation like this.

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  59. Ta**a tlga ung doctor halatang kulang sa experience. kahit me pneumonia pwede ang vaginal o cs delivery dhil pwede nmn gumamit ng regional anesthesia o epidural. tapos gamitan ng assisted mechanical vent via cpap kung kelangan. Maraming paraan. obviously under distress na ang nanay natural magcacause ng stress sa baby yon na nagpalala pa ng situation. Napakasakit ng pangyayaring ito sa mga naiwan lalo na kung alam mong me paraan nmn. Magsilbing aral sana ito sa iba na pagkanakaramdam ka ng stupido mga doctor lipat na agad ng hospital for 2nd opinion.

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  60. Yes, hospitals have protocols like cardio and pulmo clearance prior to any surgical procedure, but since mother and baby were already both in distress, they should have done the emergency C-section and addressed the pneumonia after delivery. At least, maybe, one of them could have survived.

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  61. sana inexplain nalang ng mabuti nung doctor ung mga magiging consequences or kung bakit hindi pwede i-CS, hindi yung basta sinagot lang nya na mg-normal delivery after i-treat.

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    1. Inexplain naman ata sa husband na hndi pwde i CS.. kaso she should have known better based sa situation ng mother. Poor judgement and lack of knowledge. And matanda na ang doktor, dapat madami na xa alam, or baka hndi na xa updated!

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  62. Tsk tsk dad ko dyan ngpa-opera ng kidney stones nya. Wla naman problem sa mga medical examination nya kc protocol yan bago mgpaopera. Ayun aftr operahan uuwi na dapat cya the day aftr kc ok na cya e.. inatake sa puso. Naisp ko lng prang impossible na mangyari gnun. Bka coincidence lng or may nangyari na malpractice.

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  63. yes kung may alam kayo s medical field hindi bsta bsta pde operahan kung may sakit xa lalo na sa lungs dhl madedeprived ung oxygenation nya sa anethesia its a high risk save the mommy or the baby dpt inexplain ng doctor yun or ndi lng cnabi dto yung risks? dpt dn trust your instinct kung ndi kau nagttwala sa doctor lipat kayo mdming doctor dto s manila dpat nagpa2nd opinion cla kesa naghintay lang

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  64. Condolence po sa pamilya nila. I agree na dapat na-CS na sya then saka sya i-treat after. Ang kaso ko nagkafever ako during labor, I was given meds for the fever. But after 30 mins na walang pagbabago sa fever ko, they monitored my baby. May inattach sa tyan ko. After another 30 mins, hindi pa rin bumaba fever ko, nakita ng OB ko na may fetal distress na. Kinausap na ko na kailangan na nya ko i-CS. Pinapirma lang nya ako ng waiver then she performed it na. Considering na 5cm dilated na ako pero she didn't wait for my fever to subside anymore. Tama lang na kasuhan yang hospital pati na ang OB nya.

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  65. tragic and sad. things that stood out from this story are:

    1. Pneumonia/fever during this stage of the pregnancy means there could've been sepsis affecting mother/fetus.
    2. The 4 day interval between Mar 25 to 29 - what happened during these period? It's a long stretch of time considering the urgency. something could've been done
    3. the Dr taking a leave. Did the patient selected this Dr or was it just assigned by the hospital?

    lots of questions needing to be addressed

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    1. Her original OB who took a leave due to emergency operation done to her, she is known by the mother kaya tiwala sila dun. Kaso nga naoperahan ang doktor kaya pinasa sa ibang OB para magpaanak. Walang proper turnover sabi ng OB, tinawagan lang xa ng doktor para sabihin na may papaanakin xa.

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  66. I dont think posting this matter online would do any good to the grieving family. I know that the intention is good but this is serving as a constant reminder to the family of what happened. More so, they are also being blamed at some point, aside from the speculations of medical malpractice, there is is the idea of late consultation. My take on this natter is that, there are lots of loop holes in the story posted. We need more details before we judge.

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  67. my tita lost her baby sa same hospital dahil di nailabas agad ang baby dahil kasalanan ng doctor/nurse. So sad! Sana ipasara na yan. Sure na mukang pera yang hospital na yan dahil may nga issues kami dyan.

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  68. this is heartbreaking. Yung ob nya dapat inalagaan ng maige si yung patient nya and baby. I got sick during the last trimester of my pregnancy and my ob prescribed me antibiotics na safe for baby and I got better but she already advised me that I might have to go through a cs delivery to ensure that safe kami ni baby. Lesson here is to double check the history and performance of the ob, malaki pananagutan nya dito. IMO.

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    1. If mapatunayan na mismanaged.

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  69. Share ko lang po naexperience namen sa MJH taga, karamihan po sa aming pamilya sa MJH nag papachek up ngpapa ospital,at dun din kme nangannak. Magaling po yung OB nmen, yung isang sister ko my sakit sa puso need maoperhan 2 heart valve nia need palitan, taga MJH ang doctor nia sa puso, bawal na sya mbuntis ang sabi ng doctor nia dhil blessing nbuntis sya, sinbi nia sa OB nia laht laht kung nu sakit nia ano mga gamot na iniinom nia, sweret nmen mgaswa ang doctor nia a puso at ang OB nmen tlaga tinutukan sya, monthly chek up nia mdme sya iniinom n gamot lalo na sa puso nia ndi nia pwede stop kz mgiging delikdo lagay nila mag-ina.pingusapn ng mgaswa na di sila mgleave at d sila pd mgpunta iba bansa hanggng d nanganak ung sister ko april kz un baksyon. Sobrang tutok sila sa sister ko natatakot din sila sa pwede mangyri kaya lage nila sinasabi s amen mgpray kame, pray kame ng pray na mging healthy ung baby at mging safe ang pangangank ng sister ko.dumating na yung araw na mangangank na sya pati yung doctor nia sa puso nkatutik s knila. Nging successful yung Operation nia CS kasi sya. At healthy ang baby thanx god kz pinagingan nia kme sa maga dsal nmen thank you din sa mg aswa doctor ndi iniwan ang sister ko. Siguro maiiwsan ung nangyari sa mag-ina kung sa simula palang isa lang ang OB at alam nia kung ano history nia kasi kung alam nia maiiwsan ang ganito at cgurdo alam n agd ng doctor kung ano ggwin nia oras n sinumpong ang sakit. Pero cguro nga oras na at my reason bkit ngyri ung ganyn. Siguro dindepende sa doctor yun kasi kung sya sa simula doctor mo d k nia iiwan lalo na kung aalm nia my history ka skit. Ngbbgay pa ng CP number ung mga OB kung skli emergency pd mo sila twagn gnun ang OB nmen sa MJH.

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  70. Heart breaking :( Condolence to the family.

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  71. The Ffff! Dapat mapasara n hospital n to.. Kung hindi marami pang madadamay at matutulad sa sinapit ng mag ina.. Condolence to the family.. And fcuk this hospital.. Grabe!

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  72. Thank you Sir Mike. I heard 1 TV network na ang gustong kumausap sa family at nabasa nila dito ang nangyari. Hope justice will prevail kung may pagkukulang na nangyari sa part ng hospital.

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    1. Great.aabangan ko to.dapat maiexpose ang katiwalian ng hosp.na to

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  73. Walang makukuhang justice yan ganyan ang masaklap sa pinas. Unlike sa US may habol ka talaga. May the mother and child souls rest in eternal peace.

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    1. Depende po kung sa investigation ay may makitaang mali sa pag manage...

      Di po lahat ng namamatay under sa doctor medical malpractice... di po dahil di katanggap tanggap ang pagkamatay e kasalanan na ng doctor.

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  74. Remember yung mga balahurang nurses, doctors and other medical staff na nag-video dun sa bakla na may naiwan na foreign body sa behind nya? Naging viral yung video na yun, kawawa yung pasyente pero may nakasuhan ba?

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    1. Natanggalan ng license yung md at nurse

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  75. I know po maraming nagagalit sa situation, and I understand kahit sino naman po magagalit sa ganyang situation. Yun nga lang po, let us not jump into conclusions. Kulang po yung data kasi one side lang po. Mahirap po mabuntis, totoo sinasabi po nila na paag buntis, isang paa mo, nakalibing sa hukay.

    We previously had patients who had normal, unremarkable pregnancy histories tapos after manganak ay nagkaron ng complications like cardiomyopathy (heart problem) and sepsis. Iba iba po talaga ang case ng mga tao.

    Hindi ko po ipinagtatanggol yung doctor at yung hospital dahil sa doctor din ako. For all I know, pwede talaga may negligience sila. Mahirap lang po talaga mag judge.

    Sa totoo lang po mahirap na part ng pagiging doctor ang ganyang mga decision. Ilang beses na rin ako tinatanong ng mga relatives ng mga pasyente ko sa ICU kung mabubuhay pa yung pasyente nila kasi kung hindi na rin naman daw iuuwi na nila kesa gumastos at mangutang pa sila para sa wala. Kayo po, ano ang sasabihin nyo sa ganitong sitwasyon? Kadalasan kasi base ang mga decision namin sa ethics bilang doctor at sa mga karanasan namin sa mga pasyente namin dati. Minsan walang lesser evil.

    Ang point ko dito is sana po maging responsible tayo sa comments. Wag po yung nagjujudge tayo agad.

    Even if you give me the whole details of how the patient was managed, I actually can not judge, except kung gross negligience... pero kung ethical issues of choosing the lesser evil, mahirap talaga.

    Sa family po ng pasyente at ni baby, my sincere condolences. Mahirap ang pinagdadaanan nyo. I also had a cousin na namatay just recently due to pregnancy complications. Nabantayan ko yung buong stay nya sa ICU. It's really heartbreaking to see someone who used to be so healthy ay nagiging lantang gulay.

    I agree with others na daanin po natin ang lahat sa tamang proseso. Kung hindi po kumikilos o walang aksyon,chaka po tayo gumawa ng mas aggressive actions.

    Alalahanin din po natin na ang mga doctor ay mga tao at may pamilya din. Let's stick to "Innocent until proven guilty". Sa mga ganito pong pangyayari, nakakasira din tayo ng buhay ng iba sa pagcoconclude agad. Kung may pagkukulang talaga yung medical team sa management sa pasyente, dapat sila managot. Pero hindi po sa paraang ganito. Let us respect the due process.

    Sa ibang medical practioners (nurses, med techs, other hospital staff) po: it is dangerous to have little knowledge than none at all. Sa almost 15 years ko po nagaaral para maging doctor (4yrs premed po, ~6yrs med proper at internships, 3-5 yrs specialization), aaminin ko po, madami pa din ako hindi alam sa medisina, kailangan ko pa rin patuloy na magaral. Kaya mahirap po magmarunong. Kaya wag po natin gawin yun. Lalo na po sa sitwasyon na ganito na based lang tayo sa 2nd hand info.

    Let the one who has no sin be the one to throw the first stone at the sinner.

    -Doctor-Lawyer Chismosa

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    1. At ilang years na po kayong nagpa-practice as a doctor?comments lang naman ang magawa ng karamihan dito.wala na tayo iba magagawa kasi di na maibabalik yun buhay.at least nakiramay o nakiaimpatiya tayo sa kababayan natin kahit di natin kakilala.kasi sila yun nawalan.yun hospital at doctors nagkapera yan que patay o buhay ang pasyente

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    2. I agree with everything you've said. Feeling ko ang comment mo ang pinaka-neutral. I think dapat hinay-hinay naman sa pagja-judge, kasi hindi naman alam ang lahat ng details. Isang side pa lang ang narinig. May tamang proseso naman para sa ganito. Ang nangyayari parang trial by publicity tuloy.

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    3. Ar dahil comments lang ang pwedeng gawin ng karamihan e ok na magcomment ng di maganda at di naaayon para sabihin nakikisimpatiya? Di po yata maganda yun. Mas ok po kung makikisimpatiya tayo dahil tama.

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  76. Ang t**** naman nung 1st and 2nd OB nya! -Ilocos Queen

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  77. It is well stated that only deeper investigation could actually tell if there's negligence happened or it was far too late to prevent it from happening. The OB doctor is actually right deciding of treating pneumonia first at least stabilizing the condition of the patient because number 1, she'll not be a good candidate for CS due to anesthesia effect or the doctor have seen her that she really has the potential of delivering it normally although this leaves to further investigation. For antibiotics, do your research first before telling it can harm the baby etc. but of course it should be investigated to prove anything. And lastly, there are many possible complications could happen that is beyond our control and I observed a lot. I was working in an OB department and witnessed unexpected death specially to the most healthy individuals. I'm not saying na wag nyo ituloy ung demand of investigation but people here "not all" will just tell something which they obviously know nothing or just knew little about it. About asking opinion if u knew someone, that is normally being practiced and it is understandable if that doesn't make any sense to some people because they didn't encountered it.
    It's better to leave everything for investigation and I hope there's an answer will be given to the loved ones who was left but grieve of loss.

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  78. Sabi with regular check up daw. Ang buntis pag malapit na manganak every 2wks ang check up, then magiging weekly. Howcome nakalusot si pneumonia at lumalala? Hindi masamang mag prescribe ng abtibiotic lalo pag malapit ng manganak. Hindi na fatal ang antibiotic sa baby on that stage. Naalala ko during my last courses of check up with my last baby nag prescribe ang ob ko ng antibiotic dahil napaubo lang ako with phlegm during my prenatal visit with her. I am always on scheduled cs, that was 2weeks before my surgery.

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  79. Condolence to the family.

    Pero ang mahirap kasi dami dito puro judgment. Base sa pagbackread ko, madami na from medical field ang nagtry na mag-explain kung bakit hindi agad na-cs. Tama naman kasi talaga na hindi agad agad operahan ang ganung kaso. Hindi ang nagjujudge pero base sa kaso nung mother na may pneumonia, bakit di pa nagpacheck-up nung nagsisimula pa lang yung ubo? Primigravid sya and dapat nag-ingat.
    Problema kasi satin, kung kelan malala na saka pupunta sa hospital and pag nagkaproblema, laging hospital ang sinisisi.
    Walang sinumang nasa medical field or kahit ordinaryong tao lang ang gustong mamatayan. As much as possible gusto natin masalba ang buhay.
    Hindi ako from MJH pero sana naman wag maging one-sided. Lakas makapanira ng iba dito e.

    "Damned if you do, damned if you don't."

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  80. Dapat kahit hindi siya ma i cs agad dahil sa pneumonia niya nilagay siya sa fetal monitor para makita kung na didistress na yung baby.. at pag nag brady o nag tachy na ang heartbeat nung baby dapat nagdecide agad sila na i emergency cs para kahit papano na isave ung baby

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