the letter sender is quick to call this a case of discrimination. baka may ibang reason ang airline pero discrimination? WTF! Mga tao ngayon ang dali daling mag akusa ng discrimination!
Bakit ang hindi? May sakit ang bata, nag exhibit ng behavior. Hindi nya sinadya yun and yet they were booted out because of something that is beyond their control.
diko magets na she was asked to leave after food was served.. pano nangyari un if the plane took off already or the story was incomplete na di sinabing bumalik ang plane
I wonder how the flight attendant warned her about her child's behaviour. Napaka antipatika at diacriminating naman. She didn't have any idea how hard it is to control a child's behavior more so kng me autism pa. But it is hard to explain things like this to people whose nature and upbringing are very unkind.
Kung chinese yun stewardess e walang malasakit yan.survival mode din yan kasi sa kanila mababa tingin sa mga babae.yun mga bata nga sa kanila hinahayaan lang masagasaan ng sasakyan
Seatbelts are useless din in an airplane! Hahatiin pa niyan ang katawan mo pag nagcrash ang plane! And USELESS coz sa mg plane crash e usually walang nabubuhay kahit nakaseatbelt pa yan! So para Saan talaga ang seatbelt ng mga planes??? E Hindi naman mga 4point seatbelt yan kungdi yung sa bewang Lang kaya Hati katawan jan!!!! F@$&&£¥%!!!! Mason designers!!
SEATBELTS ARE USELESS!, din in an airplane! Hahatiin pa niyan ang katawan mo pag nagcrash ang plane! And USELESS coz sa mga plane crash e usually walang nabubuhay kahit nakaseatbelt pa yan! So para Saan talaga ang seatbelt ng mga planes??? E Hindi naman mga 4point seatbelt yan kungdi yung sa bewang Lang kaya Hati katawan jan!!!! F@$&&£¥%!!!! Moron designers!!
ulupong. sa pagcrash lang ba? eh pano pag naubusan ng runway, or nagsudden brake ang pilot, pag hindi ka nagseatbelt tilapon ka hanggang cockpit, nakasakit ka pa ng ibang tao. mas mabuti pa ata kung magpasagasa ka na lang sa plane shungang 154am.
The person who commented that seatbelts are useless obviously doesn't know how an aircraft operates. Meron tinatawag na air pocket. pag di ka nakaseatbelt, titilapon ka pataaas.
Anon 12:39 bat nabuhay kapa? Sana pinahid ka nalang ng tatay mo beforehand. Or ikaw ang naging autistic. Di mo ba nabasa na the kid was given a medice and was sleepy already? And regardless dapat pinakiusapan ng maayos hindi pinaalis. Di mo ginagamit utak mo? Benta na natin sa junk shop.
Anon 12:39 bat nabuhay kapa? SNa pinahid ka nalang ng tatay mo beforehand di mo ba nabasa na the kid was sleepy and binigyan ng gamot? Di mo ginagamit utak mo? Benta na natin sa junkshop
So kapag may autism bawal na magtravel? Hindi kasalanan ng bata na ganon ang mentalidad niya. Eh may check up siya ano gagawin niya, lilipad?? Wag ka sana magkaroon ng anak na autistic, pag nagkataon kawawa naman siya, sayong klaseng magulang siya napunta.
Unang una na ateng anon 12:39 you don't address them as "autistic" anymore but "person with autism". And OA ka naman na hindi makakalipad ang plane dahil may isang tao na ayaw magseatbelt. Ung pamangkin ko nga nung maliit pa natakot sa sound ng take off kumandong sa nanay ko keri bells naman hindi naman tumigil ang plane sa paglipad.
Kung anak mo kaya yung involved, ganyan magiging reaction mo? Also, the kid should be given special attention and assistance kasi nga may autism so dapat intindihin nila yun. Dapat pinatuloy pa rin sila sa flight because it's not for leisure but for the kid's health. Such insensitive and immature people like you really shouldn't blurt comments just like that, and no I'm not in any way connected with the family.
Sobra ka Anon 12:39! Parang pinagpala ka ah... Wala ka bang kamag anak na me kapansanan? Perfect bang lahat ang members ng clan mo? Kainit ka ng ulo! anong gagawin mo pag nagka anak ka ng me kapansanan? Papatayin mo kse nakakaistorbo?
You are an insensitive b*tch! Tama nga yung nagsabi na kawawa ang batang may autism kung ikaw ang naging parent nya. It's either you neglect the child or worse you will kill yourself dahil di mo kaya ang ganyang challenge sa buhay. I really hope hindi ka magkaanak ng may disability.
Kahit naman hindi naka seatbelt ang bata during take off hindi maaalarma ang piloto at hindi yun reason para pababain sila. Kung sana nagtatatakbo ang bata at nag ngangangawa eh kaso hindi and given na may special needs ang bata eh should be given consideration. Naku kung si Bimby ang nagwawala or si josh malamang keber lang ang mga FA na yan!
what i do with my daughter with autism if ayaw magpa seatbelt, i put a blanket over her lap and pretend naka seatbelt na because if pipilitin mo silang mag seatbelt lalong ayaw nila magpa seatbelt
How old and how big was the child? It's sad that this happened. From my experience, so long that the child is seated and belted, he/she can lean sideways and sleep while the plane is taxiing and taking off. At least, that's how it was with my 4 year old in a Cathay Pacific flight, the crew just checked that she's belted. Previously too in another flight, when she was actually acting up and didn't want the belt, the crew just informed us that let her be, when the plane isn't moving yet, but that once it prepares for take-off, that's when we belt her.
The crew could have handled the situation better with this passenger. She could have told the mother to let her sleep, then belt during take off and she must support her sleeping child to be upright in her chair if that's how they wanted it.
Anak ko nga the whole flight from UAE to Manila eh natulog lang sya wla nmn reklamo yun stewardess, 3.5yo lang sya nun. Natutuwa pa nga at sleeping lang dw baby ko, puti pa yun. Mahirap magtravel ng may bata, what more if special kids pa? They should be more understanding lalo at nakamedication na pla and sleepy.
Very upsetting and frustrating situation indeed. Unfortunately, it's possible that the were offboarded not due to discrimination but to an assessment that the behavior of the child (not wanting to fasten seatbelt) would cause delays in the flight. When the mom says "she did nowt want to fasten seatbelt" I wonder what behavior she showed considering she was sleepy. If that was case should it have not been easier to fasten the seatbelt? Something is missing.
I have a special child for a niece so pls I am just trying to see both sides of the story and not jump immediately to discrimination.
They should file a complaint and push very hard for a refund if they have legal legs to stand on.
My daughter was already asleep when we were about to take off and she was resting her head on my lap, her position made her seem like she wasn't wearing her seat belt on which is true but the attendant didn't even bother to ask me to fasten her seat belt cause that would wake her up,
So sad naman..i feel for all parents who have special children..kanya lang there are also reasons why these guidelines are in place and it is to ensure safety of all passengers..if the plane took off with a passenger's seatbelt not in place that is putting a passenger at risk for injury..the airline will be liable and may be sued. Btw, suggestion lang po...since mas challenging nga po ang travel pag may kasamang special child I suggest that you buy a ticket to the US na. I know its cheaper if you have many layovers pero mas mainam siguro since long distance flight, the shorter the duration of your travel the better..
These people don't know how it is to have a special child. I feel for the mom, who worries so much about her child well-being and has to deal with heartless and inconsiderate people...
Minsan talaga may matataray na flight attendant kala mo kung sino... Kung di dahil sa mga passengers magkakasweldo ba kayo? Hirap nawawala na yung good customer service
I am saddened by this story. I have a 6 year old daughter on the spectrum. I think most part of the comunity lack awareness on these disabilities. It opens my mind to a lot of things re travelling. To the mum, if you feel you gave been discriminated on, file charges. We parents are the advicates for our children. We have to speak up. We can not change the world; but we can change 1 soul at a time. God bless your family. I pray for your healing. Please update us...
FAs are glorified waitresses on air kung maka asta akala mo kung sino. At kung maka update ng accounts sa FB at maka check in kala mo jetsetter. If you only know that they fly to other countries and from the airport diretso sila sa hotel and back to the airport. bihira ang long lay over para mag explore like TOURIST .. kaya umarte ng naayon sa lugar please lang FAs. And young asian FAs are the worst! If you fly north america or europe matatanda FAs nila and compassionate
I agree Anonymous 9:22 AM, Asian and Filipina Flight Attendants are the worst in my opinion, puro maaarte, always checking their make-up kung nag melt na ba ang mga lipstick nila etc., kaloka! hindi sila magfa- fashion show, they will serve passengers /customers inside the plane, ang aarte kala mo kung sinong mga reyna, mga alila lang naman na na-glorify! minsan talaga too much na pagka -maldita ng mga FAs na yan at dapat "ma-sampolan" ng disiplina!
Anon 10:36 sana hindi ikaw isa sa mga umalama sa "yaya meal" na yan ha. Kung maka gamit ng salitang Alila. You deserve the bad treatment you get, everytime!
I salute you for having the courage to reveal your harrowing experience with that airline. I suggest that you file a case for damages against the airline. You have a very good case. You can file it here in the Philippines since the airline is doing business here.
This is only one side of the story, theres still the other side, unheard, im sure theres a reason for offliading them, cabin crew dont just "remove" passengers from a plane
This story sounds incomplete. It sounds like it was a seat belt issue. If I'm not mistaken, airplanes have safety protocols to follow in regards to passenger seats and their seat belts. It doesn't sound like discrimination but merely a safety issue.
I remember, when I was younger and working at an amusement park, the parent of a kid with disability, demanded we allow her child to ride the ride which goes around in circles. We reasoned with her that it might not be good for her child but she angrily insisted. Yet, when her son started vomiting she got mad at us.
If something bad is posted in social media, everyone will feast on it and call it truth. But the story is quite confusing, and must be missing a certain scenario why they were kicked out of the plane.
POOR SERVICE. My sister came here in Manila for a visit. She called me that they have landed. Nagtataka ko bakit matagal, yung pala she waited for her luggages. She ended up coming out without her luggages and diretso uwi. They were able to track down the luggages pero ilang araw dumating. Napagod ako sa kakatawag
Its a requirement that anybody with a disability travelling by plane needs to inform the airline so that it can assess the passengers medical needs. In europe, by law anybody with a disability are required to have assistance. so prior arrangements needed to be done with the airline. You cant just show up with a child who has behavioral issues. For the safety of the child and everyone else's comfort on board assessment needs to be done prior to flying.
Thats sad.. Will karmas gonna visit her soon.. Lets see.. In ur future generation.. I really believe in karma what u give is what u return for u
ReplyDeleteThis discrimination indeed. Mas marami pa ngang Chinese tourists ang nagwawala sa plane miski wala silang autism.
ReplyDeleteThis is true. Got pushed by a chinese tourist because he wants the firsf person to get off the plane.
DeleteGrabe naman
ReplyDeletethe letter sender is quick to call this a case of discrimination. baka may ibang reason ang airline pero discrimination? WTF! Mga tao ngayon ang dali daling mag akusa ng discrimination!
ReplyDeleteBakit ang hindi? May sakit ang bata, nag exhibit ng behavior. Hindi nya sinadya yun and yet they were booted out because of something that is beyond their control.
Deletediko magets na she was asked to leave after food was served.. pano nangyari un if the plane took off already or the story was incomplete na di sinabing bumalik ang plane
DeleteI wonder how the flight attendant warned her about her child's behaviour. Napaka antipatika at diacriminating naman. She didn't have any idea how hard it is to control a child's behavior more so kng me autism pa. But it is hard to explain things like this to people whose nature and upbringing are very unkind.
ReplyDeleteKung chinese yun stewardess e walang malasakit yan.survival mode din yan kasi sa kanila mababa tingin sa mga babae.yun mga bata nga sa kanila hinahayaan lang masagasaan ng sasakyan
Deletechinese are the most disrespectful people ... wala sila pake sa tao sa hayop lalo na sa di nla kaano ano...
DeleteI feel like some information are missing. Based on her account, wala namang ginawa ang bata. Parang ang harsh masyado na pinababa sila sa plane.
ReplyDeletemagulo nga ang kwento. pano pa cla pinababa ngserve n pla ng food? so that means almost an hour na sa ere?
DeleteVery wrong indeed. My younger brother has autism too. Nakakainis lang talaga yung mga taong ganito, judgemental
ReplyDeleteSeatbelts are useless din in an airplane! Hahatiin pa niyan ang katawan mo pag nagcrash ang plane! And USELESS coz sa mg plane crash e usually walang nabubuhay kahit nakaseatbelt pa yan! So para Saan talaga ang seatbelt ng mga planes??? E Hindi naman mga 4point seatbelt yan kungdi yung sa bewang Lang kaya Hati katawan jan!!!! F@$&&£¥%!!!! Mason designers!!
DeleteSEATBELTS ARE USELESS!, din in an airplane! Hahatiin pa niyan ang katawan mo pag nagcrash ang plane! And USELESS coz sa mga plane crash e usually walang nabubuhay kahit nakaseatbelt pa yan! So para Saan talaga ang seatbelt ng mga planes??? E Hindi naman mga 4point seatbelt yan kungdi yung sa bewang Lang kaya Hati katawan jan!!!! F@$&&£¥%!!!! Moron designers!!
Delete1:54 omg thanks for the nightmare geesh!!!
DeleteMay use po ang seatbelt anon 1:54 during turbulence. Para maiwasan ang injury.
Deleteulupong. sa pagcrash lang ba? eh pano pag naubusan ng runway, or nagsudden brake ang pilot, pag hindi ka nagseatbelt tilapon ka hanggang cockpit, nakasakit ka pa ng ibang tao. mas mabuti pa ata kung magpasagasa ka na lang sa plane shungang 154am.
DeleteThe person who commented that seatbelts are useless obviously doesn't know how an aircraft operates. Meron tinatawag na air pocket. pag di ka nakaseatbelt, titilapon ka pataaas.
Deletetsk tsk..very bad
ReplyDeleteIdemanda yan. May batas na para diyan, wala nang usap-usap.
ReplyDeleteBaka naman kasi nakakaistorbo na sila sa flight. Her autistic daughter was UNABLE TO SIT DOWN AND FASTEN HER SEATBELT. Paano lilipad and plane nyan?
ReplyDeleteAnon 12:39 bat nabuhay kapa? Sana pinahid ka nalang ng tatay mo beforehand. Or ikaw ang naging autistic. Di mo ba nabasa na the kid was given a medice and was sleepy already? And regardless dapat pinakiusapan ng maayos hindi pinaalis. Di mo ginagamit utak mo? Benta na natin sa junk shop.
DeleteAnon 12:39 bat nabuhay kapa? SNa pinahid ka nalang ng tatay mo beforehand di mo ba nabasa na the kid was sleepy and binigyan ng gamot? Di mo ginagamit utak mo? Benta na natin sa junkshop
DeleteD ka nagbabasa ng ayos teh! Sleepy meaning inaantok na at hindi na makakilos dahil nag diazepam! Masyado ka naman!
DeleteSo kapag may autism bawal na magtravel? Hindi kasalanan ng bata na ganon ang mentalidad niya. Eh may check up siya ano gagawin niya, lilipad?? Wag ka sana magkaroon ng anak na autistic, pag nagkataon kawawa naman siya, sayong klaseng magulang siya napunta.
DeleteUnang una na ateng anon 12:39 you don't address them as "autistic" anymore but "person with autism". And OA ka naman na hindi makakalipad ang plane dahil may isang tao na ayaw magseatbelt. Ung pamangkin ko nga nung maliit pa natakot sa sound ng take off kumandong sa nanay ko keri bells naman hindi naman tumigil ang plane sa paglipad.
DeleteKung anak mo kaya yung involved, ganyan magiging reaction mo? Also, the kid should be given special attention and assistance kasi nga may autism so dapat intindihin nila yun. Dapat pinatuloy pa rin sila sa flight because it's not for leisure but for the kid's health. Such insensitive and immature people like you really shouldn't blurt comments just like that, and no I'm not in any way connected with the family.
DeleteSobra ka Anon 12:39! Parang pinagpala ka ah... Wala ka bang kamag anak na me kapansanan? Perfect bang lahat ang members ng clan mo? Kainit ka ng ulo! anong gagawin mo pag nagka anak ka ng me kapansanan? Papatayin mo kse nakakaistorbo?
DeleteAnon 1:06 AM Hindi ba mas madaling lagyan ng seatbelt kapag di gumagalaw? geez.
DeleteYou are an insensitive b*tch! Tama nga yung nagsabi na kawawa ang batang may autism kung ikaw ang naging parent nya. It's either you neglect the child or worse you will kill yourself dahil di mo kaya ang ganyang challenge sa buhay. I really hope hindi ka magkaanak ng may disability.
DeleteKahit naman hindi naka seatbelt ang bata during take off hindi maaalarma ang piloto at hindi yun reason para pababain sila. Kung sana nagtatatakbo ang bata at nag ngangangawa eh kaso hindi and given na may special needs ang bata eh should be given consideration. Naku kung si Bimby ang nagwawala or si josh malamang keber lang ang mga FA na yan!
DeleteSad, sana hindi nila maranasan ang ginawa nila sa bata
ReplyDeleteAnong gagawin kung hindi mapagseatbelt? Pwede bang magtakeoff kung may hindi nakaseatbelt?
ReplyDeletewhat i do with my daughter with autism if ayaw magpa seatbelt, i put a blanket over her lap and pretend naka seatbelt na because if pipilitin mo silang mag seatbelt lalong ayaw nila magpa seatbelt
DeleteHow old and how big was the child? It's sad that this happened. From my experience, so long that the child is seated and belted, he/she can lean sideways and sleep while the plane is taxiing and taking off. At least, that's how it was with my 4 year old in a Cathay Pacific flight, the crew just checked that she's belted. Previously too in another flight, when she was actually acting up and didn't want the belt, the crew just informed us that let her be, when the plane isn't moving yet, but that once it prepares for take-off, that's when we belt her.
ReplyDeleteThe crew could have handled the situation better with this passenger. She could have told the mother to let her sleep, then belt during take off and she must support her sleeping child to be upright in her chair if that's how they wanted it.
Anak ko nga the whole flight from UAE to Manila eh natulog lang sya wla nmn reklamo yun stewardess, 3.5yo lang sya nun. Natutuwa pa nga at sleeping lang dw baby ko, puti pa yun. Mahirap magtravel ng may bata, what more if special kids pa? They should be more understanding lalo at nakamedication na pla and sleepy.
DeleteYou do realize that the child has autism right? Hindi ho "normal" so hindi ganun kadaling sabihin.
DeleteVery upsetting and frustrating situation indeed. Unfortunately, it's possible that the were offboarded not due to discrimination but to an assessment that the behavior of the child (not wanting to fasten seatbelt) would cause delays in the flight. When the mom says "she did nowt want to fasten seatbelt" I wonder what behavior she showed considering she was sleepy. If that was case should it have not been easier to fasten the seatbelt? Something is missing.
ReplyDeleteI have a special child for a niece so pls I am just trying to see both sides of the story and not jump immediately to discrimination.
They should file a complaint and push very hard for a refund if they have legal legs to stand on.
My daughter was already asleep when we were about to take off and she was resting her head on my lap, her position made her seem like she wasn't wearing her seat belt on which is true but the attendant didn't even bother to ask me to fasten her seat belt
ReplyDeletecause that would wake her up,
So sad naman..i feel for all parents who have special children..kanya lang there are also reasons why these guidelines are in place and it is to ensure safety of all passengers..if the plane took off with a passenger's seatbelt not in place that is putting a passenger at risk for injury..the airline will be liable and may be sued. Btw, suggestion lang po...since mas challenging nga po ang travel pag may kasamang special child I suggest that you buy a ticket to the US na. I know its cheaper if you have many layovers pero mas mainam siguro since long distance flight, the shorter the duration of your travel the better..
ReplyDelete-frogilita dela cruz
These people don't know how it is to have a special child. I feel for the mom, who worries so much about her child well-being and has to deal with heartless and inconsiderate people...
ReplyDeleteMinsan talaga may matataray na flight attendant kala mo kung sino... Kung di dahil sa mga passengers magkakasweldo ba kayo? Hirap nawawala na yung good customer service
ReplyDeleteSadly people are still not "comfortable" in dealing with scenarios involving people with mental disabilities.
ReplyDeleteI am saddened by this story. I have a 6 year old daughter on the spectrum. I think most part of the comunity lack awareness on these disabilities. It opens my mind to a lot of things re travelling. To the mum, if you feel you gave been discriminated on, file charges. We parents are the advicates for our children. We have to speak up. We can not change the world; but we can change 1 soul at a time. God bless your family. I pray for your healing. Please update us...
ReplyDeleteV of NZ
Ikaw na nagsabi na pinababa kayo because "your child is unable to sit down and fasten her seatbelt". San pumasok ang discrimination dito teh?
ReplyDeleteFAs are glorified waitresses on air kung maka asta akala mo kung sino. At kung maka update ng accounts sa FB at maka check in kala mo jetsetter. If you only know that they fly to other countries and from the airport diretso sila sa hotel and back to the airport. bihira ang long lay over para mag explore like TOURIST .. kaya umarte ng naayon sa lugar please lang FAs. And young asian FAs are the worst! If you fly north america or europe matatanda FAs nila and compassionate
ReplyDeleteI agree Anonymous 9:22 AM, Asian and Filipina Flight Attendants are the worst in my opinion, puro maaarte, always checking their make-up kung nag melt na ba ang mga lipstick nila etc., kaloka! hindi sila magfa- fashion show, they will serve passengers /customers inside the plane, ang aarte kala mo kung sinong mga reyna, mga alila lang naman na na-glorify! minsan talaga too much na pagka -maldita ng mga FAs na yan at dapat "ma-sampolan" ng disiplina!
DeleteAnon 10:36 sana hindi ikaw isa sa mga umalama sa "yaya meal" na yan ha. Kung maka gamit ng salitang Alila. You deserve the bad treatment you get, everytime!
DeleteIsa ka pa 9:22 nakakahiya mga katuald nyo. Kayo ang mayabang at matapobre, Kaya if you get treated badly, you derserve it.
DeleteI feel for you, Ms Flory. I hope this gets viral and may that nasty FA be identified and punished.
ReplyDeleteI hope that chinese girl will be bwisited by karma sooner than sometime in her old life
ReplyDeleteI salute you for having the courage to reveal your harrowing experience with that airline. I suggest that you file a case for damages against the airline. You have a very good case. You can file it here in the Philippines since the airline is doing business here.
ReplyDeleteThis is only one side of the story, theres still the other side, unheard, im sure theres a reason for offliading them, cabin crew dont just "remove" passengers from a plane
ReplyDeleteThis story sounds incomplete. It sounds like it was a seat belt issue. If I'm not mistaken, airplanes have safety protocols to follow in regards to passenger seats and their seat belts. It doesn't sound like discrimination but merely a safety issue.
ReplyDeleteI remember, when I was younger and working at an amusement park, the parent of a kid with disability, demanded we allow her child to ride the ride which goes around in circles. We reasoned with her that it might not be good for her child but she angrily insisted. Yet, when her son started vomiting she got mad at us.
If something bad is posted in social media, everyone will feast on it and call it truth. But the story is quite confusing, and must be missing a certain scenario why they were kicked out of the plane.
ReplyDeleteThis story has too many inconsistencies.
ReplyDelete1. ...who has autism, was unable to sit and fasten her seatbelt prior to take off because she was very sleepy...
If she's really sleepy, she should be in her seat, lying down and the seatbelt shouldn't be a problem.
2. I was appealing to the flight crew that she be allowed to sleep through the flight but they made us leave.
I don't think the crew will just throw someone off the plane esp if she's just sleeping.
3. .. As expected she demanded food...
How did she demand food? Was she shouting? Was she kicking the seat in front?
I have nothing against people with disability but this story is incomplete.
POOR SERVICE. My sister came here in Manila for a visit. She called me that they have landed. Nagtataka ko bakit matagal, yung pala she waited for her luggages. She ended up coming out without her luggages and diretso uwi. They were able to track down the luggages pero ilang araw dumating. Napagod ako sa kakatawag
ReplyDeleteIts a requirement that anybody with a disability travelling by plane needs to inform the airline so that it can assess the passengers medical needs. In europe, by law anybody with a disability are required to have assistance. so prior arrangements needed to be done with the airline. You cant just show up with a child who has behavioral issues. For the safety of the child and everyone else's comfort on board assessment needs to be done prior to flying.
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