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Monday, October 14, 2013

Letter from a Reader: A Bully Pastor's Family

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Dear Fashion PULIS,

Hi Mr. Lim. I know your blog has been the voice of some people who experience unfortunate situations. I am writing to share with your readers the horrible experience I and my daughter had a few weeks ago.

My mother, myself and my 5-year-old daughter were in a Kiddie Pen KP inside a major mall last Sept 13, 2013 at 3pm. We left my daughter there so we could do some groceries. It was not the first time that I brought my daughter there, as it has been my practice to bring her there whenever I'd be in a hurry to do some errands so she could play and would be safe - until that fateful day.

While my mother and I were in the grocery, I didn't know that my daughter was being bullied, hurt, kicked in the head and chest by a big 7-year-old boy inside KP. We learned about this when we went back to pick her up. My daughter immediately told me that she was hurt by that boy. I confronted the caretakers of KP and was told that the boy is a regular customer and that he is unruly and hurts everyone there while his Lola and Lolo just watch.

I asked them for that boy's phone number and I called his guardian. The Lola who answered me tried to call the boy's Lolo but he refused to take the call. I ended up talking to the grandmother. I told her what happened in KP, but her reply shocked me: " In the event that your daughter dies, you just go and sue us. "

I was outraged! I did not expect such words coming from an elderly woman.

By Saturday morning, a day after the KP incident, my daughter started having fever and was vomiting. I rushed her to the hospital. Until the 8th day of her confinement, she was still having high fever. I could not have her checked by a neurologist because my medical insurance does not cover it.

My daughter's hospital confinement lasted 10 days. She has trauma and was asked to see a child psychiatrist. I am very worried.

I learned later on that the boy's grandfather is a Pastor and founder of a born again church affiliated with a big congregation. This congregation has a program that airs regularly on television and has a popular showbiz couple as one of its active members along with other celebrities.

I tried to reach out by calling them, leaving messages on facebook but these people are not responding. I am now at my wit's end. I was told that this Pastor and his family are untouchables.

This is the reason I am writing to you, FP. I want to expose how inhuman this Pastor and his family are.

May this be a warning to mothers and child guardians out there not to leave their children in paid playgrounds or playpen - caretakers/staff there can never be relied upon. Bullies are everywhere and our children's safety should always be foremost.

Thank you, Mr. Lim. God Bless you.

Sincerely,

Ms. Sol

"The pressures of being a parent are equal to any pressure on earth. To be a conscious parent, and really look to that little being's mental and physical health, is a responsibility which most of us, including me, avoid most of the time because it's too hard." ~ John Lennon

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189 comments:

  1. Ang religion na feeling holier than thou ang mga miyembro, pero ang totoo sobrang sasama ng ugali.

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    1. Wag naman lahatin. hehehe meron lang talaga masasama, hindi yun nawawala. Kaya dapat hindi sa religion tumingin, dapat kay Lord na lang. :)

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    2. NAKU ATE.. PARANG GUSTO TULOY KITANG ILIBRE DAHIL SA SINABI MO.. CORRECT NA CORRECT KA!

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    3. isama mo ako sa libre mo ate. aprub din ako sa comment ni 12.14am.

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  2. Bakit kasi iniwan magisa 5 years old pa lang baby pa yun kung tutuusin.

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    1. naloka ako sa sinabi mo...

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    2. onga . kasama nman pla nya nanay nya pagsashopping tapos iiwan solo yung bata... hindi nman daycare yunh mga play area n yun dapat pa rin may tumitingin sa bata

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    3. Posting this as a blind item just gave the supposed 'bully pastor's family' more power because they rename unnamed and untouched. The only moral was not to leave your children in the care of people you don't know. No action can and will be taken against the 'bad people' just because good people refuse to speak up. Sad, but that's just how life is. Hope someone braver stands up to these kind of personalities.

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    4. They have their own reasons, let us respect those. And it seems that you weren't reading everything - the letter sender had mentioned she used to bring her child here every time up until that had happened. I wish you would be more considerate of your words, geez.

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    5. I hope that your child will soon be OK.

      My point is... KIDS WILL ALWAYS BE KIDS! It could be that the other child is super hyper like my son, but you cannot totally put all the blame to the grannies who's looking after their grandchild. It is OUR responsibility as parents to protect and make sure that we minimize the risk involved when our kids play specially if its a play pen that is open to everyone who could afford to let their kids at.

      Share ko lang, my then 4 y/o son went to play with my 25 y/o sis at R playpen while I do my groceries. Apparently my son who's so hyper kept on running and jumping and accidentally bumped another child, well the place is child proofed so I dont think the other child got hurt., Pero syempre hindi papahuli ang mudra nung bata... super freaked out and pinagsisigawan nya lang naman ang kapatid ko. (Thank goodness, hindi nya nilapitan or sinigawan ang anak ko mismo kundi malilintikan sya sakin BIGTIME!)

      Well, to avoid any other issue my sis and son just went out of the play pen to grab a bite, so I got curios why they are out so soon, so sissy told me the story and off we went... BACK to the playpen! (I paid 3 hours worth and my son still have about 2 and a half hours worth of play time) so balik at kinausap ko yung anak ko super sweetly within the earshot of the freaking mommy who's silent during the whole time that I'm telling my son to just play but also be careful as well specially if there are other kids nearby.
      Ending si mahaderang mudra eh umalis na lang kasama ang anak nya... hindi ko na sya kinausap, siguro naman na vent out na nya yung inis nya nung pinag sisigawan nya ang sis ko.
      Pero pag umalma pa rin sya nung andun ako.. sasabihin ko talaga "Kung ayaw mo ng may kalaro ang anak mo, ikulong mo sa bahay mo!!"

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    6. Oo nga pala, nung sinasaktan ang anak mo, asan ang lolo at lola?or yung staff? Walang nakakita na umawat dun sa isang bata??! Still sana maging ok na talaga ang baby mo, pero SANA din NEVER mo na syang iiwan na mag isa lalo na sa shared/paid kids playzone na walang yaya or kasama.

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    7. 1:52. The way you talk sounds like you're the one has a right to get mad at the mother of the aggravated child, though it's your son's fault. I don't know where is that coming from but I could tell by your messages that you are a conceited mother.

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    8. For anon 1:52AM .yung isang mother tama ang hinaea kinausap ang sis mo at hindi ang bata. Given ang anak mo ay hyper hindi naman pwedeng maging teason iyon para maka panakit ng nat. Sa may mga hyper na anak dapat tututukan para hindi makapanakit. At hindi ang makalintik ka ng bongga dahil sa pag kahyper ng anak mo. ..edi lilitaw kang parang anabel rama ang drama mo...magulang tayo pag nasaktan ang atin anak natural na magreact tayo pero tignan natin ang situasyon wag basta magalit ng bigtime

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    9. teach your kid kung paano magsabi man lang ng sorry..

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    10. agree teh! nainis ako kay 1:52 habang binabasa ko reply nya,at sya pa talaga may ganang magalit? kung ako nanay nung inaway ng anak mo eh baka sinuntok ko pa pagmumukha mo

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    11. 4:25. The fact remains that if a guardian was there to look out for the child, the bullying could have been prevented. Negligence is inexcusable. I am not a conceited mother, I am taking all necessary precautions to make sure that my child would be able to enjoy his childhood but not to the extent of hurting another child. You have to admit that kids could sometimes be unruly when playing, thats why its always called "supervised playing" specially if you are in a public play zone.

      Going back to the story, I think the best course of action if I was the aggravated mom of the child, is to consult with a lawyer and explore my options. Well, she should admit that partly its her fault that there is NO GUARDIAN looking after a 5 year old child in a play pen, However its also the parents/grandparents of the 7 year old bully who is liable for the bodily/mental harm that was inflicted to the 5 y/o kid provided that the mom could establish that the 10 day hospital confinement of her child is caused by the KP incident. She should get copies of cctv or testimonies of the KP staff so she'll have a stronger case.

      Naiinis lang ako kasi para sakin bilang mommy, hindi mo dapat iniiwan ang anak mo ng walang nagbabantay. Hindi ko ma imagine na ang anak na pinagbuntis mo ng 9 na buwan, na ayaw mo padapuan ng lamok, tapos mag grocery ka lang iiwan mo sa playpen mag isa at 5 y/o lang sya... Hello?!

      I have a question., is the mom trying to reach out to the grannies because she wants the other child reprimanded? or is she reaching out to them for financial assistance?
      Whatever it may be, i hope the 5 y/o gets better and really hope that the KP incident is something that she'll be able cope up with. So the child's welfare should always be the top priority, So if I'm the mom, I'll quit trying to reach out the other party after the 2nd attempt and will get a good lawyer to sue them and make them accountable for the 7 y/o action.

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    12. 4.25 wait lang ha, pag nakabanga ang apat na taon mong gulang na anak ng ibang bata ng HINDI sinasadya eh napakalaking kasalanan na ng bata at conceited na agad ang nanay?

      Tsaka kaya nga andun ang kapatid ko to make sure na mabantayan ang anak ko, pero syempre dahil nga bata at hindi naman sobrang laki ang play pen eh nagkakaroon ng pagkakataon na minsan nagkaka bangaan ang mga bata. Kaya nga may bantay para pag intentional na unruly ang bata eh masasaway na ng guardian pero walang karapatan yung isang nanay dun na magsisisigaw at magtatalak kasi aksidenteng nabanga ng anak ko ang anak nya dahil naghahabulan/naglalaro ang mga bata hindi naman sinipa, sinuntok o sinampal ng anak ko.ang anak nya. Conceited na agad.. agad agad?!

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    13. 1:52. I totally agree with 4:25, discipline your child, ang lakas ng loob mong ishare pa ang story mo..natural na maging protective ang isang ina sa kanyang anak, pero hindi natural na kunsintihin ang isang pilyo at sutil na bata..lakas mo maka mahadera e ikaw kunsintidora..wala kang ipinagiba sa lolo at lola sa BI..shame on you! Tsktsk

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    14. Agree with 4.25

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    15. 1:52 ang point here is what you should do once you see or at least found out if you weren't on the scene when the "bullying" happened. if you are just going to tolerate it, then there lies the problem because if you don't talk and discipline your kids not to do these kinds of things, then u r setting them up to become a real bully. wag mong i-relate ung kaso mo sa case nya because it's totally different, i understand na ur son was just playing and it wasn't his intention to hurt anyone...pero itong 7yr pastor's grandson, should be scolded and the pastor and his wife who witnessed the whole thing should at least try to apologize!

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    16. Tama,.. Kunsintidora dating nitong si 1:52 eh. Alam nyo, ke sinadya o hindi, ke bata o matanda, pag nakasakit ka o nakaagrabyado ka, u owe them an apology, yung sinsero! Hindi yung kayo pa magmamalaki kahit pa hindi sinadya o bata yan! Nakasakit kayo eh!

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    17. I agree with 1:57AM. Why did you leave behind your five year old child in a paid public (pseudosafe) play area with out a bantay? Kahit ba multiple times mo na iniwan before, a child should never be left alone. Anything can happen. I do not agree with the way you and your little baby were treated by the family of the bully and the kid bully, but still, in my opinion as mother of a 5 year old too, a child should never be left alone in places like that. Kung sa school nga, may nangbubully to think there are adults/teachers/school staff around with kids, dun pa kaya sa public play areas?
      Anyway, sino ba ang pastor na yan at ng mapangalanan na sa twitter with matching hashtag.

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    18. Tama,.. Kunsintidora dating nitong si 1:52 eh. Alam nyo, ke sinadya o hindi, ke bata o matanda, pag nakasakit ka o nakaagrabyado ka, u owe them an apology, yung sinsero! Hindi yung kayo pa magmamalaki kahit pa hindi sinadya o bata yan! Nakasakit kayo eh!

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    19. i understand that children play a little rough sometimes. but not too rough that will give the other child a head trauma or will put them in a hospital. if i see my son hit other kids (accidentally or not) i make sure to make him say sorry right then and there and let him know that hurting others will never be acceptable. so don't blame me for judging any parent who thinks hurting others is ok 😤

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    20. 1:52 sounds like ikaw pa galit sa mother ng bata. Di ba mas tama at mas magandang example sa anak mo na mag-apologize ka dun sa bata at sa mother dahil yung anak mo ang nakasakit? Given na di nya sinasadya, still, nag-apologize ka parin dahil sino bang magulang ang gustong masaktan ang anak? Syempre magagalit yung magulang. Nandun yung bata para maglaro di para masaktan at di naman kelangang masaktan lagi pag naglalaro di ba?

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    21. anon 152...if i were the other mom i would have told you ' kung di mo kaya
      idisiplina at bantayan ng maayos ang anak mo dun na lang kayo sa bahay maglaro. kaya may mga batang lumalaking bully dahil samga kunsintidorang magulang na tulad mo'

      sa totoo lang ikaw ang mahadera .ipinagyabang mo pa

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    22. 1:52 should also learn how to discipline her child. Hindi naman dahil its a play pen, its an excuse that a child can eventually 'hurt/bump' another. Why can't you tell your child to be careful, and try not to bump other kids. Really, with that reasoning, ang sarap sagutin ng "Pare-pareho kayong nagbayad, kaya konting respeto."

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    23. Precisely! My first reaction was HOW COULD A MOTHER LEAVE HER 5 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER ALONE sa isang place kahit pa sabihin na play pen eh nakakatakot pa din dahil pwedeng ma-kidnap na lang ng kung sino yung bata. Obviously may kapabayaan rin on the part of the mother. Pero yung Pastor na sinasabi obvious din na FALSE PROPHET yun dahil kung talagang sa tunay na Diyos siya dapat alam niya kung ano dapat niyang gawin at sinaway yung apo niya para hindi makapanakit ng ibang tao.

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    24. agree kay 9:33. pag nakasakit, humingi ng sorry, kahit hindi pa sinasadya. hindi ung nagmamaasim pa, wala na sa lugar.

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    25. I agree sa lahat ng mga replies kay 1:52. Yabang lang, pasalamat ka di ako ang nanay nung batang nasaktan mo. Turuan mo ng tamang disiplina anak mo. Regardless if sadya o di sadya ang ginawa ng anak mo, the other child and the mom deserve apology.

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    26. Effort lang anon 1:52

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    27. Dapat bumalik para mag say sorry din anon 1:52, hindi ung magparinig pa. Naghahamon pa ng away talaga? Hayyyyy naku.

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    28. Anonymous 1:52 AM you should be ashamed of yourself, posting your story here as if you are justified with what you did to the other mom and her child. Children learn a lot from the way adults behave around them and there's no guessing your child has learned being a bully from you. Kayo dapat ang ikulong sa bahay, more better for the rest of us who are peaceful and civilised.

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    29. Try mo pa mangatwiran anon 1:52..ahahahha..isip isip din pag may time ng ipagmamalaking kwento ng kamahaderahan..lol

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    30. Ay, ang bastos ni 1:52. Pasalamat ka at di kasingkitid ng utak mo yong nanay ng inaway mo. Tama naman na kailangan mgsorry whether intentional or not if may nasaktan na.

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    31. 1:52 yung grammar mo din ang isunod mong itama at baka yan naman ang gayahin ng anak mo.

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    32. Yung sis mo should've said sorry agad agad, sinady man ng anak mo or hindi.para naiwasan na yung pagtatalak ng nanay.natural lang na reaction ng nanay un masaktan ang anak nila. and nung bumalik ka sa playpen, you should've talked to the mother to directly apologize hindi yung nagpaparinig ka pa na pinagsasabihan mo kunwari yung anak mo. SUS! MALING MALI!

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    33. I'm a mother too.. its not the child's fault kase at that age, you cant discipline a toddler or a kid kase yung mga ganyang bagay hindi talaga sinasadya yan. Me point din naman sana si Anon 1:52 kase as a mother, its your responsibility to ensure the safety of your child. But it goes both ways. You also have to ensure that your child wont hurt any child for that matter, whether sinadya or aksidente lamang. The center also has to put a disclaimer kung ganyan, at least clear sa parents na they wont leave their kids alone na walang personal na bantay.

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    34. 1:52 isa ako sa mga gusto umintindi ng mga batang may special needs like your son who is hyperactive. pero having a mother like you won't help your kid. kung kami ng anak ko ang ginawan mo ng ganyan, baka nakatikim ka ng sermon sa kin! your kid who is hyperactive should not be brought to places like that kung makakapanakit lang!

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    35. hyperactive ang anak.. pano naman may pinagmanahan!

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    36. lol, kuyugin na si 1:52. joklang. konting pasensya kasi alam mo na ang opportunities for improvement ng junakis mo teh. :)

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    37. ayan kasi nagcomment ka pa, e di napasama ka tuloy sa pastor sa bi.

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  3. well you should have exposed the name of the pastor

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    1. Gets mo ang meaning ng Blind Item te?

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    2. i'm sure sa original letter ng sender, nakalagay ang name nung bully pastor and everyone involved.. pero since this is a blind item blog, may footnote si mr. lim na... Letter edited for brevity and to suit a blind item format.

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    3. I agree. Name names para matuto. 1:11 and FP, blind items don't apply if someone is hurt.

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    4. 2:35 You're opening FP to libel kapag he'll name names. FP (the site) is still a blind item blog, nasa rules yan. Magbasa nga!

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    5. palag pa ng kayabangan mo @1:52 hahahaha!

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  4. Nakakapagtaka lang kasi bakit ibinigay ng KP ang phone number ng lolo at lola. Hindi ba violation of privacy yun? Kung may ganyang issue dapat yung KP ang kumo-contact sa both parties. Dapat sila din ang umaayos ng sitwasyon dahil sa facility nila nangyare. Napakairresponsable din ng facility kung ganun.

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    1. I agreed! KP should never disclose personal info. Dapat the mom should also sue them as well as the guardian. Bakit kasi kailangan iwanan ang anak,ako nga i have 2 sons pero never ko iniwan sa mga play pens kahit yun secured like KP pag maggogrocery.afterwards na lang saka sila maglalaro pero dapat kita ko.irresposible act of the letter sender!

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    2. But they didn't and gave the number. A bit unprofessional don't you think?

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    3. Mukhang mga walang utak mga tao dun. Di nga inawat yung boy bullying a small girl eh.

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    4. Sa lahat ng comment ito ang winner. Responsibilidad ng KP kung anuman ang mangyari doon. Sila ay liable any event na mangyari. If they allow 5 yrs old in thier custody so sila ang responsble.lame excuse ang palagi po dito yan at nananakit.yan ang hirap sa phil wala kasing malinaw naa rules o ano ang responsibilidad ngfacility.basta kumita lang ganon lang.....I am not siding sa writer pero dapat panagutanng other party o faciluty mismo sa nangyari.

      Bakalng liability

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    5. same thoughts here contact details should be confidential may resposibility dun ang play area staff at dapat di iniiwan ang mga bata pag sa mga public places

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  5. Why don't he just go ahead and sue them afterall that is what the anti bullying act is for. I'm sure, if he does that he would certainly get the attention of the parents and expose them as bad parents.

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    1. Or use the facility. If they can't make the safe place for children they should have a policy that children should always have guardians. Name the place at least.

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    2. Dear, the Anti Bullying Act only covers bullying incidents in schools. - Pamintang Lawyer na Topnotcher sa Bar Exam

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    3. Sue the source. Start with the facility.

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    4. That child should be banned from playing there if he has history of bullying other kids.

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    5. Sue the facility. Bakit hinde ka tinawagan ng Staff na may ganun na palang pangyayari. I'm also a Mom of a 6yr old boy, nakapanginginig laman ang ugali ng Grandparents.

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    6. Hnd po nila pwed kasuhan ang KP dhil may waver po na pipirmahan ang bawat magulang or guardian na mag iiwan ng ank sa knila na nag ssaad wala sila pananagutan sa ano mang mangyyari sa ank nila. Unfair pero ganun tlga ang life.laging unfair...regarding nmn sa mga lolo at lola ng boy nkkpag init sila ng ulo.katanda na d pa marunong dumisiplina.sabagy kunsintidor tlga mga grandparents ksi ganyan ang magulang k sa mga apo nila kya lagi kami away dhil kung ano ano tnituro sa mga bata.gusto lagi lumalaban.ayw nila naaagrabyado apo nila.d nmn tama ung ganun kasi lalaking war freak ang mga bata kung ganun ang palaki sa knila.lagi k sinasabi sa ank k wag makikinig kina lolo at lola.haha.wag sya makikipag away.kung may nang away sknya isumbong sa teacher para teacher ang kakastigo sa bata hindi ung gagantihan nya pa.magkakasakitan lang lalo sila. Pero pinag aral k ng taekwondo ank k pra in worst scenario d sya bsta bsta matatalo.

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  6. Dapat nagreklamo ka sa staff ng kiddie pen. Nakikita na pala na ganun ang ginagawa ng bata, they should have had the bully kid step out and leave the area because of his behavior. Considering that the child's grandparents were there, they should have asked them to talk to their grandson and make him stop. Kaya nga sila nandon to facilitate di ba? Pero may point din si anon 12:19. You should never leave your child alone kasi sa dami ng bata dun, di na rin napapansin each and every one of them.

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  7. Kawawa naman yung bata tsk tsk. lessons learned! wag iiwan yung bata kahit sa ganung place na walang kasamang guardian and hindi porket member ng bla bla bla church eh matuwid na!

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  8. Nag-iiwan na din ako ng bata sa Kiddie Pen at alam ko mayroon silang rule na pag rude ang bata ay itatabi nila ito at di na ihahalo sa ibang bata. Dapat may mga tao ang Kiddie Pen every corner para makita ang activities ng mga bata. Kung Kiddie Pen ito sa isang MAJOR mall then i guess mayroon sila ng mga ganyan. Mayroon na ring CCTV ang mga places like this so i suggest humingi sila ng kopya. Kung meron man o wala, pwede nyong kasuhan yan. Pwede pang madamay ang Kiddie Pen dahil di nila kayang gumawa ng safe and happy place for any kiddos.

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    1. as per the letter sender regular yung nanakit na bata at big time yung Pastor na magulang kaya, in my opinion, di makakibo yung staff

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  9. Pastor, practice practice din ng prinipreach!

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    1. Tamaaaa! Mga self righteous! sama naman ng tunay ng kulay.

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  10. Naku, may mali rin si letter sender! 5 years pa lang yung bata. Baby levels pa yan. Di naman daycare center ang playpen eh. Kung mag-grocery ka lang naman, eh di sana pinasakay mo na lang sa grocery cart. Allowed naman yun.

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    1. stop blaming the victim!

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    2. at bakit hindi? sa totoo lang this woulnt have happened if naging responsable syang ina... ang playpen ay HINDI DAYCARE

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    3. eh mali naman talaga yung letter sender. and it's the kid that's the bully, NOT the pastor.

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    4. the letter sender is also at fault here, hindi nya dapat iniiwan yung ganung kaliit nyang anak na unsupervised kasi masyado pa maliit yun at maraming pwedeng mangyari..

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  11. Hear no evil. See no evil because they are the devil

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  12. Having a father/grandfather/relative that is a pastor doesn't make them a saint. I was also a victim of bullying and to think the one who bullied me has a DAD that is a PASTOR. I don't know but I think these pastors don't have the time to educate their child of the right values! These bullies don't know the effect of their words/actions toward other people. In this case the child was affected physically and emotionally. I hope the pastor just face the problem and talk to his grandchild. Apologize to the victim! If the pasotr's family will continue to ignore this bullying incident then we should question their credibility and sincerity? Their core values?

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    1. Pang miss world si ateng for the win

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    2. hindi naman por que anak ng pastor or any religious head e mabuti dapat na tao.. may free will tayong lahat.. kahit nga ba pinalaki ka ng tama, kung lahat ng mga tao sa paligid mo masama and if you let them change you like one of them, wala na. And, we're talking bout kids here. They will just play around, at di nila alam ung tinatawag nating adults na violence. What they do know, is they're just playing around. Moreover, this isn't the best issue or place to condemn pastors. Anyway, di naman sa kanila kayo mananagot but to the Man up above. Just saying.

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    3. Anon 1:15. There's such a thing as Pastor's Kid's Syndrome

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    4. anon 12:52 the problem here is hindi naman yung kid ang gumawa kundi yung pastor mismo..

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    5. hindi naman yung pastor ang nakausap ng letter sender kundi yung pastor's wife. abangan ang susunod na kabanata!

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  13. i also brought my kid brother on a KP, but I was outside watching him. When I saw 2 kids bullying him and kept on grabbing the toys he was playing with. I called the attention on the KPs staff, but they just smiled at me despite anger was written all over my face so I waved at my brother and checked him out of the KP.

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    1. kids will be kids. it's all child's play for them.

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  14. The caretakers should have stopped the bullying. Obviously they had seen what was going on and it wasn't the first time that boy had done that. I suggest the mother also complain to the management of the play area that they should set up rules that repeat offenders of bullying must not be allowed inside.

    As for the grandparents of the bully - just because you are a pastor it doesn't mean you and your family are "closer" and "dearer" to God. What you told the little girl's mother is BS. How you just watch your grandchild bully another kid is another BS. Nowadays, there's no need to go to the court and follow the proceedings. May you be reminded of social media and how it can be used as a platform to achieve justice in kind. In fact, you're lucky somehow you're there. Your boy does that in say, UAE, where law of responsibility is set at 7, he'll be in the courts and he can be jailed for assault and abuse.

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  15. Grabe !!! Pastor pa mandin, kung mka project parang sila lang ang holy....hayyysss....PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH !!!

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  16. Ano ba tong Kiddie pen na to, are they task to watch the kids too? Or basta na Lang iniwan Nya Ang 5 yr old duon, Kasi Kung task din nila to watch the kids then ang kiddie pen ang dapat Nya I reklamo.

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  17. Alam ko pag ganun pa kaliit ang bata dapat may kasamang guardian

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    1. They only require guardians for 3 yrs old and below.

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  18. Eto ba yung pastor na butas-butas yung fes?

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  19. Eto ba yung nangarap ng mataas?

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    1. No, he is not the one. This is a smaller church Pastor who is affiliated with the biggest congregation in the philippines and asia..

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    2. ito ba ay may show sa kaf?

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  20. OMG, ang alam ko lang na couple eh si c at hubby na may business

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  21. Sinong Pastor yan ng Born Against? Nakakagalit ha!! . Really? May Untouchables? At ganun kasama magsalita ang asawa ng Pastor na yan? Parang alam ko na kung sino ang celebrity couple/s ang member/s dito. Actually, halata naman mga hypocrites ang mga tao na yan. Banal-banalan in public, but deplorable in private! Go Burn!

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    1. have you ever heard that there are always two sides of the story?

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    2. Sino ung famous showbiz couples? Dali!

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    3. Be really careful of what you're saying.. baka ikaw ang ma-burn with all your bias judgment. We're talking bout a man of God here.

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    4. Agree anon 9:31. Wag mag judge pre maturely.

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    5. hindi Diyos yung pastor. Tao din siya.

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  22. What is the diagnosis of the child's 10-day confinement? Related ba sa bullying nung other kid? Let us not judge prematurely.

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    1. baka naman na dengue lang yung bata.

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  23. porke di covered ng medical insurance hindi mo na pinacheck sa neurologist? anong klaseng rason yun? titipirin mo yung a few thousands instead of ensuring your child's health

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    1. Wag mag judge kaagad. Baka naman di kaya ng budget ni mommy ang ipa-neurologist ang bata. As in, kasyang kasya lang yung income for daily needs. Di lahat madatung te.

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    2. Nawindang din ako dun. Nakakatawa lang kasi ngayon parang binabalik sa kanya yung mga errors nya instead of yung intention nya na kumampi mga tao sa kanya. Hindi naman mga yaya yung mga taga KP eh no lol.

      In any case you still should sue them. At least fight for your kid.

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    3. Right. Tinipid ang pagmamahal niya sa anak niya.

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    4. 2:38 i-point out ko lang..lagi nya dinadala sa KP ang bata to do errands including "grocery". Hindi isang kahig isang tuka yan.

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    5. Yun din agad pumasok sa isip ko anon 2:09. Di naman sa pagiging judgemental pero kasi ako laging welfare ng anak ko lagi lalo pagdating sa health. Nilagnat at nagsuka tapos may history ng sinipa sa ulo...Kung kinakailangan ko mangutang para lang mapa-check sa neurologist gagawin ko.

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    6. anon 238 kung concerned talaga sya sa health ng anak nya e di dapat ginawan nya paraan makadelihensya ng pang consult ng neurologist .. may pambayad sya sa playpen e

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    7. anon 2:38 we're both minimum wage earners of my hubby but still we find ways to look for a neurologist & letting my child undergo ct scan for his welfare

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    8. yeah hindi mo ba ipapangutang kapag nalagay sa alanganin ang buhay ng anak mo? dahil lang hindi covered ng medical insurance ang neurologist hahayaan mo na lang na ganun ang bata? anong klaseng magulang ka? iniwan mo na nga mag-isa sa KP na walang bantay, nung may nangyari wala ka rin ginawa? oh come on!

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  24. H na lola yan. Heartless people.

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    1. don't call them people! call them CREATURES! hahaha

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  25. Oh my! Eto ba yung may malaking b?

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  26. is it E or E? yun lang naman ang kilala na may artistang affiliated sa kanila.

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  27. hay naku dapat ipasara yan Kiddie Pen KP na yan. magfile ka ng case against them pati yun family ng bully na yan, d dapat tinotolerate yan ganyan. madami pang kids ang sasaktan ng bata na un. my heart goes out to you and ur dear child, i hope she's well na.

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    1. Agree! Sue both the party and pagbayarin ang parents ng batang spoiled brat. Napalaro ko rin ang anak ko dyan, pero either me or my husband nagbabantay talaga. Madaming Batang bully at ang staff parang walang right sumaway, lalo't englishero Si Mami Dadi at Kid.

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  28. baka single mom ang letter sender at di ganong sapat ang income...pero kung sa kids ko mangyari yun ipapangutang ko talaga matignan lang ng nuerologist.at kung ako yun mommy never ko din iiwan mag-isa ang anak ko dun kung maggo-grocery lang or magbabayad ng bills.di naman siguro laking abala kasi nakakapagsalita na yun at nakakaintindi na kung pagsasabihang magbehave.kesa sumakit ulo mo sa gantong klaseng traumatic incident.wala kang kalaban-laban dun kasi iniwan mo ang anak mo unattended..yun ngang valuables natin pag nasa labas tayo lagi natin iniingatan like gadgets,money,etc..eh anak pa kaya.9mos mo dinala sa sinapupunan mo yan at inire ng bonggang-bongga,pinagpuyatan padedehin araw-gabi..tapos iiwanan mo sa kiddie pen para lang maggrocery.

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    1. my thoughts exactly..

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    2. Agree ako sayo...Sobrang bata para iwan sa ganong lugar ng mag isa. May kasalanan din ang nanay (letter sender) dito.

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    3. agree ako sa u ng bonggang bongga

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  29. Mommy Letter Sender, I have several questions:

    * Why did you leave your 5-year-old baby to the Kiddie pen without any elder?
    * Why did you not take the pen owner/caretakers to answer for what happened to your daughter?
    * Why did you not sue the Pastor and wife?
    * Why did you have to scrimp on your child's health not going for the right treatment even if its not covered by your insurance?
    * Why did you not go to social media to get your case addressed? It is faster that way if you need real results?

    I am going to pray for your daughter. But honestly, you have lapses, too. Sorry, but that's the truth.

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    1. FYI, not everybody can afford a lawyer to sue someone or to bring their kids to a specialist.

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    2. true that! i would never EVER leave my toddler without a trusted adult to watch over him/her.

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    3. * Why did you have to scrimp on your child's health not going for the right treatment even if its not covered by your insurance? - THIS!!!!!!

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    4. Maybe because she tried to contact the other party and you read what they said to her. And 5-year olds pwede na po turuan yan ng mabuting asal lalo na affiliated sa church yung family nila and lastly, gaano tayo ka-sure na ganun kadali maghanap ng money for neurologist? Unang-una kung behave ang mga bata eh di wala tayo sa discussion na ito. Sana nga i-pagpray mo yung daughter kasi the way you said it parang sinisi mo lang sya in a very passive aggressive way. Heartless lang.

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    5. anon 5:05.. that may be so but i dont think the letter sender falls under that category... hindi sya isang kahig isang tuka dahil.afford nya regularly magpunta sa playpen... misplaced lang priority nya na di magdelihensya fo a specialist's consultation... as for legal fees havent you heard of PAO public attorneys office? .... dami palusot

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  30. hindi ko alam yang pig pen na yan or kung ano man tawag dyan! parang daycare ba yan, ung parang somebody would look out for your child for a certain period of time ganun ba un? naku if i had a child I won't leave her/him in that PIG PEN! With all the crimes happening these days like rape, murder etc, who would leave their kids in the hands of strangers. besides kids these days are violent and in Pinas you can't sue underage kids even if they kill someone and that alone would scare the hell out of you!

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  31. Yung male in the celebrity couple has a bro na p. 

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    1. hindi issur dito yung celebrity couple

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    2. Parang alam ko na kung sino sila....sooo sad. ako never akong nang iiwan ng bata sa isang play pen sa mall. ganyan ako. hindi ako nagta trust sa mga taong hindi ko kakilala.

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  32. Awts, I hope ur kid is now safe. Just hope u never left ur kid alone kasi sa panahon ngaun, malingat ka lng po, an dami ng pwedeng mangyari. I know as parents, or grandparents we are responsible setting good example and teaching our kids to be good. Sana mom, you'll never leave ur kid alone again, a 5 year old can't defend her/himself pag binully, and to Pastor, I PRAY you teach ur kid first bago ka magpreach sa tv non-stop about religion. Ndi nyu naman pwedeng i-excuse sa tao nd ur followers u were not there. Practise what u preach - *opinionlang*

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  33. Hi..bka po yun anak nila pastor undiagnosed ang adhd at sila po ay nasa denial stage na naka labas na ang sympyoms nung bata..hanggat d po nila pinapa diagnose ang anak nila at di matanggap ang sitwasyon..malabo po na kau ay kakausapin ng pamilya dahil d po nila kayang masagot ang mga tanong na ibabato nyo...galit po tau sa mga batang bullies...pero sila rin po ay may sitwasyon na dapat maunawaan ng society..pero sa mga magulang at kaanak dapat magsimula ang pagtanggap para maibigay sa mga batang bullies ang tamang pagtulong...

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  34. A kid, no matter how old, should always have a guardian in public places like KP, mall, fast food, etc. Because you'll never know the kind of people the kid will encounter while the're out of your sight.

    You shouldn't left ur 5yr old at KP. You can't expect the staff to ONLY look out for ur child, while u & ur mother were doing some groceries. Dalawa naman kayong adults, kaya nyo naman cguro mag grocery w the kid noh, then play at KP afterwards. At least cgurado ka pa na mababantayan!

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    1. True that. To think 5 yrs old lang yung bata. Eh karamihan ng magulang nga tingin sa mga anak babies pa rin kahit teenager na, todo bantay pa rin. Tapos eto 5 yrs old lang. I also have a 5 yr old son, and i cant imagine leaving him alone in a public place. Sinasama namin sya sa grocery kahit malikot sya.

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    2. Tama!!! Hey letter sender, dalawa pa kayo ng nanay mo sa grocery. Puede naman isa sa inyo ang magbantay or isama ninyo sa grocery ang bata. Pinabayaan ninyo yung bata! Dont blame the Pastor, he has no liability over your responsibility.

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  35. nakikisimpatya ako sa batang na-bully at sa mother niya. maaring ang batang bully ay isang mentally challenged one (autistic perhaps), kaya malakas ang loob ng lola na magsalita ng "go ahead sue us".

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  36. para sa kaalaman ng marami... ang playpen ay hindi daycare where yu can expect them to take care of your child...

    young children are REQUIRED to have guardian around. otherwise you have to PAY EXTRA if you want a dedicated staff to look after your child

    the problem is that the mom wrongly passed on her responsibility to the playpen... dpat sinasama nya anak sa errands nys or iwan sa nanay nya since kasama naman pala nya nanay nya...

    i find it wrong ma binigay ng playpen ang number ng lola but i also dont believe that those harsnh words were said by the lola, pastor or not

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    1. The letter sender is using other people to cover up her "pagkairesponsable"! The lola and lolo are not liable...

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  37. While I feel sorry for your kid, I can't help but think of your own lapses. Pero nangyari na ang lahat sana mag reach out na yung parents or grandparents nung bully. If not, sue them-- KP and Bully kid and his family

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  38. ang daming opinyon.. so sino to? hulaan to diba di pagalingan?

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    1. no.. hindi pahulaan to

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    2. Tumpak ka!! Daming dunung dunungan...

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  39. Yes, because in this day and age, we write to FP instead of talking to a lawyer

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  40. And daming magagaling magsalita dito.. bigyan ng jacket!!

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  41. I think it's not fair to say that you make that company responsible for what happened. The attendants are not "yayas" who follow each and every child around. The play pen should have, however, called back the mother while the grandparents and child were still there. It should have acted as mediators to find an immediate resolution. But let's not forget: away bata ito!

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  42. Yes dapat di iniiwan bata anywhere

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  43. Ok ate. Ganito kasi yun:
    1. Hindi po day care center ang kiddie pen. Limang taon ang anak mo, iniwan mo doon habang naggo-grocery ka. Kasama mo naman pala nanay mo, eh di sana pinag bantay mo na lang sa anak mo na nasa kiddie pen. Di mo ba naisip na "what if something goes wrong? Are the caretakers in the kiddie pen responsible/sensible enough to call me/let me know if ever?"

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    1. "Are the caretakers in the kiddie pen responsible/sensible enough to call me/let me know if ever?" YES. They should be. You entrusted them your child.

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  44. 2. Its a kiddie pen. Inside a mall. Sigurado ako(or maski ikaw naman siguro alam mo ito) na hindi lang ang anak mo ang nglalaro doon. At sana naisip mo na may ibang bata na overactive/hyper/brusko kung maglaro/kumilos. Naisip mo ba na "pano kung naka encounter ng ganung klaseng bata ang anak ko? Sino ang magtatanggol sa kanya? Sino ang sasaway sa batang brusko maglaro?"

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  45. 3. Bago mo man lang ba pinadala dito sa FP ang letter mo eh naisip mo na ba na kumonsulta sa abogado? Sue. The. Facility!

    Alam mo ateng letter sender, nanay din ako. Ng dalawang bata. Naggo grocery din ako sa mall, pero ni minsan hindi ko naisip na iiwan ko na lang ang mga anak ko sa kiddie pen habang namimili ako. I will not take the risk. Oo protective ako sa mga anak ko, at oo medyo praning ako. Pero minsan mas makakabuti siguro kung ia-anticipate naten ang mga bagay na pwedeng mangyari, at dapat handa tayo pag nangyari yon.

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    1. Atih, hinde ka mashadong galit nyan? Wag mashadong karir-in ang pagko-comment baka mapagkamalan kang kasapi ng relihiyon ng pastor kuno na yan.

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    2. Korek anon 11:08

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  46. hay nako te bakit mo sisihin yung pastor siya ba ang nagbully parang sinasabi mo na rin kapag napariwara ang anak ang lolo ang sisihin.

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    1. di ka pa yata magulang no?

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    2. true, try mo mag-anak ng malaman mo

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  47. Bigyan ng jacket ang magagaling the mommies! Kaloka kayo... isa pa kayong dumadagdag sa bullies.. its bad enough na nagyare yun sa kanya..

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    1. Hindi naman binu-bully ang letter sender. They are just pointing out the overlooked fact na si Letter Sender at Nanay nya, iniwan ung bata na limang taong gulang sa isang play pen para mag-grocery. Pwede sana, isinama na lang ung bata o kaya isa sa kanila ng nanay nya eh naiwang magbantay. Kahit ba naiwan na nya dati pa ung bata. 5 Years Old ung bata.

      Oo, bad enough na nangyari iyon and hindi naman ginusto ni Leter Sender but at this day and age, anything can happen nga.

      Sa Letter Sender, kung wala kang pera to sue the people responsible for your child, ask for public assistance. Para naman sa neurology consult, merung mga pubic hospitals na may libreng consultasyon o minimal fee ang hingi ng mga pediatric neurologist.

      O, asan na ung jacket naming magagaling na mommies? Bigay mo na. Magaling talaga kami, kung yun ang gusto mong sabihin. Dahil we try to be aware and be pro active with regards to the safety of our kids.

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    2. i donr think pambubully matatawag dun, what were all trying to say is she must be very careful with her kid. nowadays, malingat ka lng ng kunti, andaming pwedeng mangyari, and in her case, pwede naman sanang maiwasan.

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    3. Effort lang teh? Anon 1:52?

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  48. Wow ang daming perpektong mommies (at daddies) dito.

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  49. anon 10:24 at anong gusto mo purihin at kunsintihin ang mommy na yan? nakikisimpatya naman kami.wala naman kumampi sa nambully..ang sinasabi ng karamihan e hindi mangyayari yun incident kung hindi pinabayaan ang bata.kahit sino tanungin mong magulang ang tatanungin kagad "bakit pinabayaan yun bata sa kiddie pen?" o siguro kahit hindi parent basta nag-iisip ng tama..baka nga hindi naggrocery yan baka nanuod ng sine na di pambata..walang matinong ina ang mag-iiwan ng isang batang anak sa isang unsafe na lugar.

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    1. After venting out your opinions, may I ask what could you suggest to HELP the letter sender mother? The damage has been done already so I think it's more on your "nakikisimpatya" side if you share what you think could help her best atleast?

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    2. My thoughts exactly. Apir tayo ateh!

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    3. Kaya nga.. what you say then?

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    4. "Naglakwatsa ang mag nanay, iniwan ang 5 y.o na anak sa isang kiddie pen. Naaksidente tapos sinisi sa iba. Sino ang iresponsableng nanay na ito?"----yan dapat ang Blind Item!!!

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  50. all parties may mali kaya complicated itong case

    pero definitely the mother should really go after the bully..kahit ask them to pay for damages like yung hospital bill and all since kagagawan naman nung apo nila kaya nagkaron ng prob

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  51. my kids are always din naglalaro pero andun ako nagbabantay kahit ilang oras pa pra ma guide sla kng anu ang tama o mali sa pakipaglaro..kasi bata yan kailangan nila malaman kng tama o mali ang gngwa nla..teach our kids to be responsible

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  52. sarap ibitin patiwarik ang mga nagbabanal banalan, pastor pa man din.

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    1. sarap mo din ibitin.. nagjudge ka agd against the pastors family when yoi dont even know the whole story... youre so gullible tsk tsk tsk

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    2. May born again oh! LOL

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  53. Ang moral ng story, kailangan, may ninong kang mas mataas sa karamihan ng tayo para may nalalapitan ka. Kaya nga naging bully yung bata kasi alam niyang untouchables sila. Nasa pinas tayo, kung wala kang pera, nganga ka nalang.

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  54. you should have put some clues regarding the location of that play place, so that people will try to avoid, baka andun na naman yung bata

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  55. dear lettter sender, ikaw nga sinasamahan pa ng nanay mo mag grocery, bakit di mo nagawang pabantayan sa nanay mo yung anak mo at ikaw ang nag grocery, me anak din ako pero hindi ko naiisip iwan anak ko sa ganyan. Sana maging maayos anak mo at next time, mag isip kang mabuti bago kayo "mag grocery" ng nanay mo

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  56. I think u should talk to the grandparents and toldmthem what happen. Its not easy as a parent to accept all of this specially when ur kids is at risk. Kahit cnung pilato pa cla kung mali nmn na ung gnwa ng apo nila. Kahit ba anak ng pinakamayaman yan eh..

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  57. always teach your child how to fight back (fist-fight). teach him/her, that no one should bully him/her. because at the end of the end, it is always your child would suffer or gain from being bullied. in today's generation, we should teach our child to fight back when pushed to a corner. inflict much hurt to the one that throws the first punch.

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    1. agree ako dito... turuan ntin sila maging mabait at magalang sa kapwa, na wag mang aapi, pero turuan din natin sila lumaban at wag pa aagrabyado...

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  58. Sa haba ng mga comment dito, wala bang nakakahula or magbigay ng clues kung sino ang pastor na lolo?

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