Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Letter from a Reader: The Missing Hermes Herbag

Photo of RDV that appeared on Look Magazine
carrying the missing Hermes Herbag 

Dear Fashion PULIS,

This unfortunate incident took place more than a year ago but I was waiting for this fashion stylist and host of a lifestyle show, RDV, to settle amicably before spreading this story. Since I see that he shows no effort to settle, I have decided to share the blow by blow account of what he did to me with your many avid readers.

RDV was introduced to me and my friends three years ago by a friend of mine, RC, who was his officemate at that time. RDV started hanging out with us since then we liked him instantly because of his wit and humor. He told us many cool stories about him and his family which we later found out to be all lies.

Sometime in mid 2009, he told me that he was interested to buy my used Louis Vuitton Keepall that I was selling at that time. Since we have been friends for quite some time, I sold the LV bag to him on a 6 month installment basis. There were times that the payments were delayed but never the less, he was able to finish the payments.

In early 2010, he fell in love with this Hermes Herbag that I was selling for 75,000 Php. Since he has once shared with us that he was earning 120,000 Php a month, I told myself that I will not have any problem with this guy for sure. Months passed and I have not received any payments. All I got from him were apologies and excuses for his inability to pay. Wanting to save our friendship, I patiently waited but his excuses became more and more illogical each time. It was also around that time, when me my friends and I began to discovered his web of lies. His friends in Facebook were also witnesses to his lies. We thought that more than an Hermes Herbag, what he needed was professional psychological help.

Months later in September 2010, I asked him nicely if he could just return the bag to me if he could not pay for it. He told me to give him a few days to look for it because they were moving houses during that time. After a few days later, I was shocked to receive a message from him informing me that he misplaced the bag. I asked myself “How the hell could he have lost such a huge bag?” I told him to just pay for it since he lost it. He asked for more time but when I got no word from him, I decided to request my lawyer to take care of it.

It is now June 2011 and I have not been able to collect the 75,000 PhP he owes me. My question is “Isn't RDV supposed to pay for the item because he lost it while it was in his possession?” If he were a dignified person with good morals as he claims, he should have at least showed his willingness to pay for it even if it will take some time.

Thank you very much Fashion PULIS for posting my story. I hope he reads this story and gets in touch with me. More power to your blog.

Yours truly,
Denis Robles

P.S. Fashion PULIS has agreed to post the initials of the person involved in the story because the letter sender has allowed his real name to be published. Calling on Mr. RDV, Fashion PULIS will be waiting for your side of the story. Please send it to through michaelsylim@gmail.com.

101 comments:

  1. Guys, here is your fashion related chika. =) I know who RDV is! Scary pala siya.

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  2. OMG! Dapat silang magharap kay tyang Amy... pang face to face ang cheap ng drama niya!!! Tingnan ko lang kung ano ang sabihin ni Persida Acosta at Dra. Camille!!!!!!!!

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  3. Bakit kasi kailangang magpanggap na mayaman, ok lang naman kung mahirap ka. Kung totoong kaibigan ang mga so-called friends mo, tatanggapin ka pa rin nila kahit di ka maka-afford ng designer bags.

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  4. OMG!! Hindi lang pala siya gold digger at social climber!!! Swindler na rin pala ngayon!! I heard dati noong highschool siya sa OLOPS, may hiniram siyang charriol ring, noong sinoli, pinalitan daw ng peke!

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  5. i wonder why he denies his past i.e. he went to olops but claims he studied in de la salle zobel and went to college in dlsu-taft and hello!! les roches of switzerland!!! he needs money for his future medication

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  6. nakaka tawa un kwento nya sa amin ng na car accident sha. yoong rolex daw nya, palibhasa gold, nasira daw at pinulot nya at pina hulma sa latero ng ginto para gawing pendant! at may naka engrave pa na date parang memorabilia ng accident nya. sobra kaming natatawa habang kinukwento nya!

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  7. oh my this is juicy! sino si rdv?!

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  8. this RdV is very controversial these days huh; there's an article on PEP.ph that says there's a hearing set on June 9th for a case filed by RdV and another person towards brothers Richard and Rocky Guttierrez for serious physical injuries and malicious mischief....this article kinda questions his credibility...

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  9. Finally, RDV? Host? Taga Q ba ito?

    Kopikido

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  10. His case against a local superhero will most likely get settled amicably. Pag nagkataon, kashing-kashing na yan, baka mabayaran na nya yang bag na yan.

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  11. i know him na! he is not a famous stylist :)) i have to look for him in google. napanood ko once ang tv show nila with model bianca v. but can't recall his name.

    mae

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  12. Wag kasing nagpapanggap na mayaman, tsk tsk!

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  13. Question kay denis- was there any receipt/acknowledgment/note tha RDV got the bag from you? Did he sign anything that says that he is buying the bag from you on credit? That would surely help your case. And yes, even if he "lost" the bag, he is still obliged to pay you since it was already in his possession. There was already a delivery made of a personal property. Kumbaga, the sale was already perfected. Ang hindi na lang perfect, yung pag bayad ni RDV.

    I see him on tv and I find him really pretentious. Along with his other co-hosts.

    Georj

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  14. He has a FASHion-related show di ba? Mababa ba ang suweldo sa show niya, at hindi niya afford magbayad? Baka naman sa sobrang tagal na nyang nagsasabi at gumagawa ng stories tungkol sa life niya, and family niya, naniniwala na rin siya na totoo yun. How sad, right? Hindi kasi uso ang pupunta ka sa isang therapist dito sa country natin for psychological problems like that. for that, i dub him PSYCHE, dahil meron siyang mental illness! hahaha

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  15. eto b ung co-host ng FASHion chuva sa lifestyle network?tsk tsk..

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  16. If there's a lesson that the readers should learn from all the blind items FP posts here, it's that you shouldn't be fooled by appearances as looks can obviously be deceiving. We have actors na mukhang ang bango-bango, may halitosis pala. Models na mukhang mayaman, napapalayas pala ng landlord nila... and now this. RDV is such a disgrace to the homosexual community. Can we declare him baklita non grata?

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  17. is this the same stylist who's involved in the mauling issue with 2 G brothers?

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  18. to the letter sender- 1st- is he gay ? if so, then you made the first mistake , 2nd- was there a written contract? if yes, me habol ka, kung wala kang contract, WALA KANG habol, its a he said/she said thing, he can claim yu gave it to him, in court you have no standing

    eh sister naman, bakit ka naman pumapayag ng installments, MY UNSOLICITED opinion- ang tao kung me pera dapat fully paid agad, the corollary is , kung siya eh me pera, why will he buy a second hand LV or hermes, syempre brand new dapat ang bilhin nya


    what happened to your hermes? it was not missing , it was sold para sa BF nya

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  19. He was featured in this blog sometime last March. Feeling shushala sha ah? Here's the link :

    http://www.fashionpulis.com/2011/03/whos-worlds-biggest-liar.html

    Ok gow fak!

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  20. Grabe 'tong kapreng 'to! Kaloka siya! BAkit siya naging host ng isang show kung di naman pala maganda record nya. Nakakasuka!

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  21. FashionP, very intriguing story but no clue at all re. the perpetrator hehe. I hope for more clues from readers. LOVE FP! My #1 Blog!

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  22. clue please... what show does rdv host?

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  23. Live within Your Means!!!

    Ok lang mangarap at maging Illusyonada, but as they say, All in Moderation at basta kaya mong panindigan!

    ML

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  24. Oh, I got it. I clicked on the category "Stylist" and there is an easily google-able clue from a post there.

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  25. akala ko ba mayaman yang kapre na yan? isa lang palang FAKE!!! ewww

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  26. Shucks I don't watch local lifestyle shows and I know even less about local stylists or stylists in general hehe. Who is RDV? Which show is he on?

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  27. Wow. If you google his name, there's an FB account about him. Tsk. Tsk. Some people are really not happy with what they have or who they are.

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  28. I don't understand why one has to keep up with the Joneses just to gain attention and acceptance. Can't you just be freaking true to yourself? And isn't he the same person who said that he doesn't wear shoes that are worth less than Php 10,000? If yes, then why can't he pay the Php 75,000 that he owes to Authentecite? That should have been just spare change for him already. Grow up!

    Isusumbong ko sya kay Tulfo, kay RAMon Tulfo! Hahahahaha

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  29. I think they should rehash the lifestyle show and have hosts that are psychologically fit and with taste or L Channel should just pull the plug.

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  30. RDV is the guy who has now a case filed against a hunk actor? sya ba itetch?kawawa naman yung letter sender..kakatakot pala tong si RDV.feeling mayaman di naman pala kayang magbayad ng utang.

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  31. hmm, you can add this story to his other entry here. so bukod sa pagiging pathological liar, manggagantso pa siya? :)

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  32. Hmm... this is so sad. Wait, is this the same guy who was mistaken for a gate crasher and beaten up by the Guitierrez bros? And the super nice person in the FASH ensemble? If so, this is sooo sad. Can anyone confirm?

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  33. LAGOT KA BAKLA!!! SI DENNIS ROBLES NA ANG KALABAN MO!!!!

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  34. Maraming ganito sa fashion industry. If you want to climb the ladder, be sure to do it honestly. Because you will fall in no time....

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  35. I think he was born on the year of the ram. Naku, very bad yang ginawa mo!

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  36. i saw the fb about this post with the picture. grabe. nakakahiya sya. super poser.

    ssh

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  37. Hahahaha... naku... SOCIAL CLIMBERS BEWARE!!! you'll get rammed sa wall.

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  38. Anonymous said JUNE 7, 2011 8:36am...
    "to the letter sender- 1st- is he gay ? if so, then you made the first mistake"

    What are you implying? That gay people cannot be trusted? Bakit? Marami din namang heterosexual (or do you even know what hetero is... straight, bobito/a) people na estafador at estafadora ha? Napaka-hasty generalization naman nito. I'm gay, I can be trusted, and I sure as hell can afford to buy that Hermes Herbag from an actual store. Ikaw, can you? Baka naman pag nabigyan ka nang pagkakataong magkaroon ng Hermes Herbag, eh, itakas mo lang din?

    My dear ANON JUNE 7, 2011 8:36AM... Saang impiyerno ka ba pinalaki nang magulang mo para magkaroon ka ng mga ganyan ka-kitid na pag-iisip. Daig mo pa sa Aling Dionesia. Pwe!

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  39. d kya c T e2 n news anchor at c tv host actress K??

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  40. talaga yang mga taga lifestyle show na yan super intrigera at trying hard and social climbers. magaling silang magsasabi sino ang mga social climbers but sila ang pinaka!!! yan rdv na yan.sinungaling sa mga kwento nya. kaya tamang tama kasama nya mga ibang beki dyan sa show na yan na wish namin buong village na magclose na! dont watch that show dahil panay mababaho, sinungaling sila dyan. nagbloblowdry lang akala mo na kung sino.itong si rdv walang humpay sa pagkwnto ng rolex nya.eh baka pati yun nakaw din!! o kaya binenta ang hermes ni denis at pinambili nya nun??sinungaling. yung isang pang host sa show naman, ubod ng landi, sinungaling at todo manira. may mga araw din yan. thank you sa fashion pulis. mabuhay ka!!!

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  41. Anon June 7 12:12pm I agree! Hilarious comment! Hahahahah lol

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  42. i dont think he "lost" the bag, i believe it was pawned because he needed money. he just cant say that he pawned the bag kase masisira ang image niya na mayaman siya.

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  43. Oh my signs of a The Talented Mr Ripley... Beware, malalim ang pinangagalingan niyan...Hindi maganda ang childhoold and upbringing

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  44. eeeee! nakuha ko na! Lol!

    Thanks sa mga nagcomments, sa google, at sa fb! haha! I heart u fp! :))

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  45. Oh wow, google is definitely the best! :) - Tosh

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  46. Grabe thanks sa comment about the pep article! I still don't know him/never heard of him BUT andun his whole name and picture to match :D

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  47. I don't like FASH and I think RDV is sick. just saying!

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  48. RDV is so full of himself. When he was still working at Z he was such a snob. He chooses the customers he speaks to. He is so self-important.

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  49. Super dami talagang show off sa fashion world wala namang pera..just saying..had really bad experience also...laging hindi nagbabayad pero pag nakita mo magpaparty bonggang bongga! parang ang dami nilang pera all show lang...

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  50. The show he co-hosts is annoying. I hate it. It's not FASHionable at all.

    And, again, as was previously mentioned in a post where a designer didn't deliver for a bride, a written contract isn't necessary. May habol pa rin siya, even if the agreement was made verbally. The buyer's liability to pay even when the item was lost isn't affected by whether or not the sale is in writing. He has taken possession of the item already and used it as his own and therefore he should bear the risk of it's loss.

    There's no shame in buying second-hand. In fact, it's actually quite smart, given that most designer hand bags depreciate so quickly. But if you can't even pay for secondhand items in full, then maybe you shouldn't be buying luxury goods in the first place.

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  51. more clues please di ko tlga magets..

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  52. Such a shameful act. You're so pathetic RDV.

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  53. dontaskmetosmile makes the most sensible comments. :D

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  54. ang RAMI talagang mangagancho sa mundo!

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  55. To Dennis,

    Please send RDV a letter and demand payment for the bag. Give him a deadline within which to pay for the bag or return it within the same number of days plus damages, if you will.

    You can still go after RDV even without the note/receipt/acknowledgment, but it will be a tough battle. Text messages will also suffice. That is, after all, a memorialization of your agreement.

    Georj

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  56. Hello Denis, good for you! The truth, no matter what happens, is hard to beat. Do not get disheartened if you don't have a contract with him and it appears to be a he-said/she-said situation. There are a lot of ways to prove there was such a transaction between you two like text messages to each other, emails, messages on FB, DMs, etc.

    I admire people who fight based on principle (even when my former boss told me it was the most useless battle to wage) despite the monumental effort of proving allegations. In a perfect society, one's word should be enough. People and circumstances being far from perfect is not an excuse for us not to try to set things right. Again, kudos to you! :)

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  57. Geez...sana sakin nalang nabenta ang bag...hehehe

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  58. dontaskmetosmile.

    Should have been "there's nothing to be ashamed of".

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  59. Anonymous said...
    dontaskmetosmile.

    Should have been "there's nothing to be ashamed of".
    June 7, 2011 4:09 PM

    What is this for? I don't get it.

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  60. anon 4:09pm
    "There's no shame" is correct.

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  61. Anonymous @June 7,2011 4:09 PM

    Thanks, but no thanks. I am 100% sure that I was correct when I said "There's no shame in...". In fact, I'll bet any of my fully-paid designer bags on it.

    Actually, you missed out on my real grammatical error. I typed "it's loss" instead of "its loss".

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  62. taga marikina yan at di taga makati or alabang tulad ng kine claim nya. puro kwentong barbero ka naman tsong! minsan nakita ko pa yan nag aabang ng jeep sa may amin. wala naman masama pero bakit kaya ayaw pa aminin na di naman sya mayaman. pa slang slang pa, di naman lumaki sa amerika. hay buhay!

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  63. @ anonymous June 7, 2011 4:09

    nothing wrong with dontaskmetosmile's usage of "there's no shame" ... it is still gramatically correct...

    just sayin...

    xoxo

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  64. di ba mura ang 75k for an hermes bag? just asking..

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  65. just google gutierrez brothers latest incident ...

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  66. mabuhay si dontaskmetosmile!

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  67. Anonymous said...

    dontaskmetosmile.

    Should have been "there's nothing to be ashamed of".
    June 7, 2011 4:09 PM

    >>> yo anonymous 4:09 pm.. dontaskmetosmile is correct..... (there's no shame in buying...)

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  68. Denis, baka naman sinuhulan ka ni Annabelle para i-post ito (regardless whether this is true or not), naman kasi the timing.. tinakot ka ba ni Annablle na hindi na siya bibili ng bag sayo? I mean, come on, the timing..

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  69. I don't believe dennis robles was paid by annabelle rama. Regardless of the timing, the fact remains that rdv owes him p75,000.00 for the bag. Besides, this incident was already written about a few 'issues' back. Perhaps the one who made the snide remark is being paid or cajoled by rdv to malign dennis.

    Georj

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  70. Dennis: i hope justice be given. At the same time, i hope this should serve as a lesson. Aminin na natin that the world has gone materialistic nowadays that we have to be good with our money and possessions even from people we consider as allies.
    RDV, magbago ka na bago pa magunaw ang mundo! Pay up!

    Kopikido

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  71. anonymous 11:46 : di ko kelangan ang pera ni annabelle rama hello lol. i dont even know her personally.

    -dennis

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  72. expect major major website traffic in dontaskmetosmile's blog c/o posting her url. May mga fans ka na pala dito teh! cheers!

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  73. Georj said...

    I don't believe dennis robles was paid by annabelle rama. Regardless of the timing, the fact remains that rdv owes him p75,000.00 for the bag. Besides, this incident was already written about a few 'issues' back. Perhaps the one who made the snide remark is being paid or cajoled by rdv to malign dennis.

    Georj

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    Of course not, I like Denis, in fact, I believe that he is telling the truth but as I have said, regardless whether the story is true or not, the timing is questionable.

    Btw, sino ba yung nagmamaganda lagi dito sa comment section na correct ng correct ng grammar, as if!

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  74. pahiRAM naman ng hermes bag. DEba practical mag borrow? can anyone confirm the VERAcity of this story?

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  75. RE: Should have been "there's nothing to be ashamed of".
    June 7, 2011 4:09 PM

    This kills me! :D Grammar police, hello? Honey, be sure you know your stuff before you correct someone else. I feel sorry for you.

    Carry on...

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  76. Oo nga sino ba yang correct ng correct at napakafeeling naman at nagmamagaling. Eh kung sa us blog ka nga magcomment wLang nagcocorrect ng grammar dito pa...pakielamera! Kakaloka!

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  77. si RDV nahulaan ko agad! Sinearch ko lang yung comment nung isa sa google: "pep.ph hearing on june 9" ayun lumabas na agad!!! Hahaha

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  78. Anong there's no shame? Someone's junk is another's treasure? I bet your designer bags are second hand items. Defensive :D

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  79. What about the story that he claims to have a son? Can anyone confirm if it's true? That he really is a 'Dad' despite his gender preference?

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  80. Buying second hand is always a smart move given the economic circumstances today. Isa ka pang mahilig bumili in full price masabi lang na trendy.

    Nakakatawa karamihan sa fashion industry natin, bonggang designer names nga ang suot, hindi naman carry ang look! Buti pa ang ibang nag-uukay mukhang mayaman, hindi yung mga TH na manggagantso mukha namang manggagantso.

    So sorry sa isa pang RDV, si Veyra, kasi sa tinagal-tagal ng issue na ito, akala ko talaga sya. Hahaha iba pala. Boycottin ang napaka-TH na show na yan!

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  81. Anonymous said...

    Anong there's no shame? Someone's junk is another's treasure? I bet your designer bags are second hand items. Defensive :D

    June 8, 2011 7:19 PM

    It's true naman, there's no shame in that. As long as it's in good condition, wasn't stolen by the person selling it to you and is FULLY paid, why would you be ashamed of buying anything secondhand? Some first owners even sell their handbags UNUSED, so the prices are only minimally reduced from the retail price.

    But since you asked, only one of my bags (a vintage Chanel classic flap from the early 90s) is secondhand. It's very rare as the quilting is vertical, versus the usual diamond quilting. So it's actually worth more than a brand new classic flap.

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  82. Arg. Basag trip yung mga correct ng correct ng grammar. We enjoy reading just the stories, comments on the story, and the wonderful clues (which everyone so wittily crafts, yay). Nakakairita yang mga grammar lang ang alam ang i-comment. Napaghahalatan na limited ang thinking capacities nyo, huwag nyo naman na ipangalandakan. Usually pa, mali din naman ang correction. lol

    Mike, thank you for this great blog. Is there any chance you will agree to not publish grammar correction comments? It does not add value to the discussions, anyway... This is not a grammar or English language blog. Or maybe ask readers if they agree to this?

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  83. theres nothing wrong with using second hand items as long as theyre not stolen, and are not fake! look at R, he's toting real pieces (i assume) but unpaid READ: stolen.

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  84. theres nothing wrong with using second hand items as long as theyre not stolen, and are not fake! look at RDV, he's toting real pieces (i assume) but unpaid READ: stolen.

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  85. Re: grammar police na wala sa lugar
    Kainis yung mga nagcocorrect ng wala sa lugar. Hellur, if you failed to notice, people here go as far as using becki talk or made up words so I doubt they care about grammar. Unless nalang sobrang incomprehensible yung sinabi, just leave it.

    Re: second hand bags
    The people I know who come from extremely wealthy families (the type who have to stay low-key cause they're THAT RICH) LOVE buying stuff from ukay-ukay and second-hand shops (most of them are in their 20's). They were taught how to save and that's why their families stay rich. Some specifically look for vintage or 2nd-hand items (in good condition, of course) because to them, these are worth way more than the new ones being sold today. It's known that the craftsmanship of the clothes and bags back in the day, especially for the older designer houses, were far superior than they are now.

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  86. just a thought - does your bag define you at all? if you have a branded and expensive one, does that make you better than, or even supreme to the rest of us?

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  87. Hi guys! im so affected with this comment post! but yes i have experienced how my bottle of JACK DANIELS KEPT ON DISAPPEARING ON MY TABLE A COUPLE OF NIGHTS IN A ROW.... AND VIOLA!! RDV had it all along...How do you call a person like that?

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  88. Anonymous said...
    just a thought - does your bag define you at all? if you have a branded and expensive one, does that make you better than, or even supreme to the rest of us?

    June 9, 2011 11:19 AM

    my very same thought dear--people think that the expensive bag you are toting shows one's social standing in life, and that you are "made". if one can buy the bag without having to pay it in gives, or give up months of their salary for its purchase, then you have truly "arrived". if not, then it is just pretentious & spells big fat LOSER.

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  89. Ayan, kasi, nang-cocorrect ng grammar na tama naman. Nung nahuli na at napahiya, mga bag naman ni dontaskmetosmile ang pinag-initan, eh siya nga 'yung tama from the start. Ano ba 'yan. Hindi na lang kasi umamin na mali o kaya tumahimik.

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  90. Waaahh! Ang ganda ng Hermes! Di ko kayang bilhin ito ni sa panaginip.

    Hihi. Kaloka naman ang kwento ng nawawalang Hermes na yan. Wait, ang daming comments, so backread muna ako! :)

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  91. Bakla nakipagdeal sa bakla! Ano pa nga ba.

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  92. Re FP's question: “Isn't RDV supposed to pay for the item because he lost it while it was in his possession?”

    No. The general rule is owner bears the risk of loss. Res perit domino. (Except if there is a stipulation to the contrary)

    There should have been a contract or a memorandum in order for it to be governed by the Statute of Frauds because it was a sale of personal property at a price of P500 up.

    Hence, i believe Mr. Robles should anchor his claim on the articles on Human Relations of the CC if he decides to sue. They are part of the cause of action which is also known as "abuse of rights". :D

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  93. hi dennis, im sure uve been made aware already that that hermes bag was actually pawned when he needed money badly sometime last year....so chances are the "new" owner is happily using it now.

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  94. His name was very obvious in June 8, 2011 11:02AM
    Ha..Ha..Ha...

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  95. have to goole pa...he's not familiar but he's case with the G brothers na remember ko...

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  96. Utang na loob! Enough with the grammar checking..keber kung mali? Bakit blog ba ng english teacher nyo 'to??? Magkaka-points ba kayo?

    Please lang, hindi naman English ang first language natin para hindi tayo magkamali. Kung mga kano nga mismo nagkakamali pati na spelling eh...leche!!

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  97. XON

    jusko naman... meron pa talagang mga grammar nazis dito na nagmamarunong!!! eew!!! english class ba ito?!?!?!? thread lang ito ng mga comment noh! at hello!!!!! eh tama naman ang sinabi ni dontaskmetosmile (ba yon)!!! magbasabasa muna ng mga nobela at literature at kahit maggoogle man lang bago magmagaling!!!

    im sure naman itong si dennis eh may mga resibo at lahat dahil businessman sha. gusto ko pa naman ang cohost niya na girl at gandang ganda ako sa kanya... wish ko lang hindi sha social climber kasi ang RAMI rami palang social climber kahit sa lifestyle show na akala ko eh sala na ang mga hosts nila. wala palang kredibilidad ang host na yan. naku, nakakadiri ang mga social climber na truest sense of the word talga!!! ang mga totoong SC ang pinakacheap sa buong mundo!

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  98. kay RAMi ko pang narinig na balita tungkol sa pasosyal na kapre ng RDV ah . pinagtatawanan sha nila A.Chang at mga editors sa isang party. hawakan daw ang bote ng wine kasi baka manakaw daw. un pala nagsimula ang katatawanan dahil nahuli palang nagnanakaw ng bote ng hard liquor itong kapre na ito sa boracay!!! sana ilabas ng sangkot ang buong pangyayari. RDV magbago ka na baka magaya ka sa karera ng kaibigan mong si PUEhY.

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  99. he didn't change at all..tsk tsk tsk...he owes me money too!

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  100. OHMYGODDDD I KNOW RDV!!! kaloka ex to ng cousin ko!!! used to hang out with him! I never knew

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