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Thursday, May 26, 2022

FB Scoop: Daughter of Caridad Sanchez, Cathy Babao, Lists Reminders on Giving Eulogies, Bibeth Orteza and Lea Salonga Agree




Images courtesy of Facebook: Cathy Sanchez Babao

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  1. I totally agree Ms. Cathy! My gosh, some people talaga. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

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    1. IKR. I just watched yung eulogies via Grace Poe's FB. Can see clearly sinong unmindful of these basic etiquettes.

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    2. Walang basagan ng trip. Palibhasa di nabigyan ng chance magsalita.

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    3. Napaka lame naman ng katwiran mo 12:39. Marami kang tao wala ng etiquette sa maraming bagay.

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    4. Kapag walang alam or walang common decency, walang basagan ng trip ang sagot.

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    5. 12:39 AM - It's a wake. Walang lugar ang personal trip mo sa isang wake.

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    6. Pero hindi rin tama na sa kanila mangaling yan. Kung kay Grace Poe or sa ibang kapamilya ang may ganyang sentimyento okey lang. Wala rin sila pinagkaiba kasi mahilig silang gumawa ng issue nakimarites lang din naman pala sila.

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    7. 12:39 bastos mo naman. So kahit na the person speaking is making a fool of himself when making eulogy AYOS lang? No way kabastusan un useless blabbering

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    8. So yung eulogy, tripping lang, 12:39? Di pinag iisipan?

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    9. As much as may point naman sya, i feel na in bad taste yung post nya na ganyan at this exact time. Parang pasikat din sya..same din dun sa mga pinapatamaan nya

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    10. 12:58, paano naki-Marites eh mismong si Bibeth Orteza yung host eulogy program?




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    11. 1:10 true. Sana man lang hayaan na. Gagawan pa ng issue. Kahit may point, tapos na… by her posting this, it also takes away from the real purpose - that is to celebrate memories of the late Susan Roces.

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    12. I listened to Eddie G's eulogy and it was nice, Meaningful and entertaining eventhough it lasted for 25 mins. Matagal din kasi pinagsamahan nila ni Ms. Susan.

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    13. 12:58 mas magiging scandalous yan kung kay Grace galing ano ka ba. She’s speaking in general! Reminder kung pano b talaga dapat mag bigay ng eulogy

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    14. Nandun na tayo na maaari nga mali yung mga nagsalita, but posting her opinions on the eulogies is not applaudable either. Hindi naman ito graded recitation, public speaking competition, or performance appraisal para i-point out ang tama at mali, much so sa social media.

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    15. 2:59, ako mismo naiyak at natuwa dun sa eulogy ni Mr. Eddie. Biro mo almost 60+ yrs yung pinagsama at pagkakaibigan nila! Understandable na tumagal yung eulogy niya kasi he would break down from time to time and puro tungkol naman kay Ms.Susan ang recollection niya.

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    16. Good Lord LOL It must be aweful to live a LIFE with so much disdain towards a lot of small things ...DAMING ARTE with too much ETIQUETTE!!! What is most important in a eulogy is to focus on positive stories and memories! Speak from the HEART. ....Open the door for others to share their stories. Many of the most beautiful moving eulogy speeches I have listened to are the ones that COME FROM THE HEART! Do not be afraid to stray from the topic to speak what you are truly feeling!!!

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    17. Iba rin talaga yung iba dito, enablers ng mga walang modong bisita sa lamay.

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    18. good etiquette/good manners it is about how you present yourself, how you behave, how you speak specially in occasions like a funeral that is why it is important that we practis such. porke pinupuna eh marami ng arte. yeah, speak from the heart, pero the topic should be within the the speaker's relationship with the dearly departed. hindi yung relationship ng speaker sa asawa, sa kapatid, sa anak, sa aso etc ng namatay.

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    19. In Sen. Grace Poe’s tribute to her Mom on the last day of the wake, sinabi niya that she will talk about her Mom because the moment was for her Mom, not her Dad…
      She is quite keen about how tributes should be about her Mother and not her Father dahil oras at panahon yun para sa Mother niya.
      Kaya Tama na yung mga enablers diyan ng isang nag grandstand sa eulogy nila na pinag usapan yung sarili at si FPJ, imbes na si Ms. Susan Roces.

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  2. may pinapatamaan si ate gurl

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    1. Alam na this hahaha

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    2. sino ba? ang dami kasi nila hehehe

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    3. Yung pinakamahaba yata ang eulogy na almost about sa sarili nya. Juiceko parang ako ang nakaramdam ng hiya. Bakit kaya ganyan sya no?

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  3. Share na lang mga nangyari here, guys. Didn't watch the eulogy sa wake ni Ms. Susan Roces. Thank you.

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    1. Kahit sino yun ang napuna talaga tsk tsk tsk bakit kasi ganun ang pinagsasabi

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  4. Si Bibeth yung host nung isang portion ng eulogy program kaya understandably, she can relate.

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  5. Bakit ang nega? People grieve and reminisce in their own way. May mga emotional talagang tao na hindi composed when they’re devastated.

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    1. Usually, the eulogy part of the program, may pasabi na yan at pili yung mga magsasalita. That way, you have ample time to organize your thoughts and express your account within the time frame allowed.

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    2. 12:29 oo nga. Sa “thoughts” niya na pagkahaba haba din, it contradicts her own thought about giving eulogies.

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    3. Ikaw nega. Walang nega sa post.

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    4. I dont see the nega there. She’s just stating a fact and reminding everyone that the eulogy is about the deceased person. If you cannot compose yourself while reciting your eulogy might as well not participate. Respeto mo na lang sa patay at sa mga taong andon.

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    5. Exactly, 1:00. Di naman masamang tumanggi. They can easily assign someone else kaysa magkalat ka pa. Mas nakakahiya yun at disrespectful.

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    6. Sana nag remind ya pag sa kanyang panilya ang eulogy. Ang timing din eh no… hayaan magluksa ang mga tao in their own way! Nakakainis din yung mga post na ganito

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    7. Not all the time may pasabi minsan nagtatanong sila sino pa gusto magsalita. Yung iba naman nagtatawag tatanungin ka kung gusto mo pero binnaggit na name mo.

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    8. 12.29 agree. May iba kasi din na parang nagkukwento sa pangyayari sa buhay nya tapos mga advice ng namatay. Sa unang dinig parang bakit kwento ng buhay nya pero yun ang paraan para mahighlight naging role ng namatay sa buhay nya. Kanya kanyang paraan ng kwento.

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    9. Pero yung tungkol sa sarili at sa espouse ang ibibida? Unethical yung ganun.

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    10. 2:38, yung pinatatamaan, unfortunately, nalihis talaga yung kuwento as in totoong more about sa kanya talaga na parang afterthought na lang yung namayapa.

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  6. Si Lea halatang may insecurity eversince. Parinig pa more

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    1. Oo! Iba din tong babaeng yan eh

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    2. Huh? insecure si Lea? saang paraan? maayos ang pamilya nya, malaki ang narating career-wise, financially stable at kinikilala at nirerespeto sya ng mga taong nagmamatter sa mundo. anong insecure pinagsasabi mo

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    3. May point sina Lea, Cathy at Bibeth. Period.

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  7. was she referring to someone in particular?

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    1. Not isa not dalwa but three.

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    2. Isalang alam ko. Sino yung other 2?

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    3. I think so yes!

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    4. I heard all three, Coco, Jaime Fabregas and Eddie Gutierrez. Para sa akin, okay yung speech nilang tatlo. Short and sweet ang kay Coco at Jaime. Jaime briefly mentioned FPJ by saying he and Susan were both nice and they were a match because one is the King while the other is the Queen of Pilipino Movies (nothing wrong with that imo) Eddie was over 24 mins pero natuwa ako dahil sa mga stories na napagdaanan nila ni Susan. Bad timing itong post ng anak ni Caridad kasi para siyang nagmamarunong. Maybe she can post this message or reminder after ng living ni Susan.

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    5. 10:04 for sure, wala sa tatlong minention mo ang pinatamaan nya. Someone else shared at ang peg nya, as usual, was only about me, myself and I.

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    6. 6:38 syempre idol nya yun kaya hndi nya sinali yun talagang lumihis.

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  8. Sinetch yung possibly pinapatamaan?

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  9. In my opinion wala namang rules talaga. Pag andyan ka na sa harap para magsalita maiisip mo pa ba yang ganyan. Mas importante yung galing sa puso. Ano bang problema ng mga tao ngayon? Parang lahat may issue.

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    1. It’s common courtesy kasi te. At mukang wala ka nun. Hehe

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    2. There are no rules but there are proper etiquettes to be observed bilang consideration na rin sa ibang mourners na nandoon plus the bereaved family and friends.

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    3. 12:36 ganun kasi lagi yung pinapatungkulan. Me my myself and I. In short, pabida lagi sa kahit anong okasyon o sitwasyon.

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    4. The better question is bakit mga tao ngayon hindi na marunong maging considerate, mema na lang? Wala namang issue kung galing sa puso yung sasabihin mo. Pero isipin din , baka may nga ibang naka assign to share their memories, too. So wag mo namang ubusin ang oras ang give chance to others, too.

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    5. Okay lang sa'yo and self-appreciation speech sa eulogy? Wow, conceited people like you are on a whole new level. Ikaw na teh! Bongga!

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    6. Teh you don’t go to a funeral unprepared if you’re planning to speak, unless someone just pulled you up and force you to make a speech. Funeral service for elite people are well planned, so I’m sure those who give eulogy knows ahead of time.

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    7. Galing sa puso na sarili nya ang ginawa nyang topic?

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    8. Kung napalaki ka ng maayos, hindi na kailangang ilista yan para kilalaning rule. It’s being considerate and respectful to everyone. Minsan nga even families will adjust para mabigyan ng chance yung iba to sahre their eulogy.

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    9. magkaintertwine ang buhay ng namatay at ng nageulogy kaya di maiwasan maikwento nya sariling buhay nya. Pwede din magsabi ng negative yung mga funny. Guide pwede pero walang strict rules. Walang script. Let your emotions flow freely. Reminisce those wonderful memories in whatever way. Saka respeto din lang. Di napapanahong ilabas ang rules na yan. Consider din ang sensitivity ng pinoy lalo ng mga grieving family and friends na nagsalita.

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    10. Example si 2:45 AM kung bakit masama kapag puro emosyon lang ang paiiralin. Imbes na matuto, naoffend pa tuloy kasi hindi nacomprehend dulot ng kakulangan sa emotional quotient.

      Walang issue si Cathy tungkol sa pagkwento ng life experiences ng speaker WITH THE DECEASED. She only has an issue towards speakers who only talk about themselves and not about the deceased. The rules were posted as a guide for people who don't know how to give a proper eulogy. The honor of the deceased should be prioritized over the speaker's feelings. If you're conceited enought to refuse to learn, then you're the problem.

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  10. Mas gusto ko malaman sino yun nag eulogy pero for self promotion pala πŸ˜†

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    1. Ang nega naman ng taong ganun @ 12:38

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    2. Troot! Sinetch ang nagbuhat ng sariling bangko?

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    3. May idea na 'ko. πŸ˜‚

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    4. Parang lahat ng malulungkot na nangyari sa buhay nya gustong banggitin pati yung "another kind of loss" daw na wala namang koneksyon sa namayapa

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    5. Pashare naman di ako mka move on haha sorry ginawa bang social media ang eulogy?? Sana nag post na lang sya dun kung sino man sya πŸ₯²πŸ₯²

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  11. In case may makaisip mambash dito kay Cathy Babao and her notes on eulogy etiquette, she is a Grief and Bereavement counselor. This is right up her alley and not mema lang.

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    1. Thanks for the info. Kaya pala may sense sinabi nya.

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    2. so she should know that people cope differently. not make them feel ashamed of how they were able to give their eulogy.

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    3. Ayun na nga meron na nga sa taas. Hindi kasi makaintindi.

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    4. Everyone grieves differently and not everyone is good at public speaking and not everyone is a grief and bereavement counselor for them to know these rules. #notabash

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    5. Korek! She is an authority on this subject. We should learn sa halip na maoffend

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    6. 1:01 Kaya nga nagpost about etiwuettes kasi hndi lahat may alam and the poster is an authority on the subject. If may area na hidni mo expertise at gnagawa mo ng hindi tama, walang masama na makinig sa mga expert.

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    7. 1:01 unfortunately, someone who's very good at public speaking shared a eulogy and shared only a me, myself & I memories with the deceased, and even shared more about a deceased spouse na matagal nang namayapa. Panuorin mo para malaman mo kung sino.

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    8. 12:57 If you're easily offended by being reminded of basic etiquette and GMRC, then wala kang disiplina.

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    9. And it's not like this is the first time the guilty party has done this. Repeat offender na nag eh. Multiple times!

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    10. Baket issue dito about different approach of grieving.. gosh! Her topic is all about eulogy, grief however you want for all we care but be mindful, considerate and respectful to others when delivering your eulogy.

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    11. 12:00 I’m not 12:57. Why post it now? For what? If she wanted to lecture about eulogy , being an authority as what others say here, why do it now? Her intentions may be good but her timing is not. May patama siya sa nagmamagaling sa eulogy pero yan din mismo ang asal niya when she posted this.

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  12. And who is she in the first place? She should just say it to Grace Poe or the person na pinapatamaan niya in person instead of posting her "feelings" through social media.

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    1. Please refer to the comment of 12:39AM

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    2. 1241 basahin mo ang comment ni 1239.

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    3. Parang ikaw lang. Who you in the first place lol.. Guilty lang sa self promotion at self entitlement

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    4. Ngek, bakit naman niya sasabihin dun sa mismong bereaved family member? Diplomatic way na nga yung ginawa niya.

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  13. I see her point, and it's good in theory..but it's not a graduation speech or a wedding toast. It's not easy to draft and do a eulogy, especially if you're grieving. I once had to do it for a loved one and regretted the ordeal. It was too hard especially having to share so publicly when you're bereft from a loss.

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  14. This is actually a good reminder to everyone kahit di eulogy. Kung bigyang 'tribute' ang isang tao, focus your fond memories with that person. Ms. Cathy is not being nega here. Kahit on the spot pa yan, make your eulogy more about the deceased and less about you.

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  15. passive aggressive din mga to eh

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    1. Tamang kaugalian yang pinost nya tih. Kung wala ka nun, pumirme ka sa bahay kasi nakakahiya ang walang manners. Para yan sa kalahatan at hindi lang sa iilan.

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  16. They should be given a time limit to accommodate everyone who wants to share
    It is not a testimonial about them it is about the person who just died

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  17. In fairness consistent sya.. mapa birthday message o eulogy, all about me myself and I. Next time wag nyo na invite mag speech, kaloka talaga.

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    1. 2:18 kahit mga hanash sa socmed ganun sya talaga. Self-entitlement ang nangingibabaw lagi.

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    2. Nung nakita ko ngang tinawag siya, napa "Oh no" ako. May inkling na ako na matagal ito at puro tungkol sa kanya. Yung mister ko na di alam na ganun siya, napapa-iling na lang. Tanong niya, sino ba talaga yung binibigyan niya ng eulogy?

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    3. Alam na dis...yun d naputulan ng internet mga besh!

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    4. Cynthia classmate????

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    5. Lahat daw kasi mahal sya at mahal nya din.

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  18. Sino Kaya πŸ€”

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  19. Wala akong time panoorin lahat ng nagsalita. Sino ang mga pinatatamaan?

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    1. 2:43 wala din kame time para sagutin ka

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    2. 3:32 gusto kitang patulan sana pero hindi ako bababa. Not 2:43

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    3. So sino nga kaya?

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  20. On point yun sinabi ni ms. Cathy lalo na sa isang tao. Kasi yun isa mas na-eulogized nya yung late husband ng namatay tapos her eulogy was more of herself blah blah blah as if sya lang may kakilala sa namatay.

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    1. Ganyan lagi yan feeling close sa lahat samantalang yung contemporary nya mas matagal nakasama sa mga projects

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  21. Nubayan mapipilitan tuloy ako panoorin ang lahat ng eulogies to find out kung sino yung guilty hahahaha!

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    1. Pa-initials k naman sa mga pinatatamaan..i don’t wanna watch na din sana hahaha

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  22. I was able to watch via zoom ng Eulogy for a family member ng close friend ko, one of the people na nagparticipate sa Eulogy nagsalita ng mga bad things about the family of my friend. I thought it was done in poor taste. Sana sa ibang platform nalang nya ginawa yun! So yes to proper etiquette.

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  23. Ms. Cathy is my grief counsellor.. She’s very helpful in how I manage my loss.. She knows what she’s talking about talaga..

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    1. She’s not in the right position to tell these people how to behave. These people are grieving too. No matter how they show their feelings is up to them. Walang sinuman ang dapat magsabi kung Ano ang nararamdaman nila at dapat nilang ikilos.

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    2. She is also very righteous and very maepal!

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    3. Ako rin, I found her guidelines really very helpful.

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    4. wala naman siya pinangalanan when she posted. it is to educate the majority. matamaan ay guilty.

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  24. well said ang mga reminders. kasi yng isang cast ng AP inubos na yng program sa eulogy nya abt herself and abt the Husband. pero baka nadala lang sya ng emotions nya.

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  25. Ms Cathy has every right to post etiquette for eulogy. And besides, when u are ask to eulogized you should know Kung anong kahalagahan ng eulogy, it is to speak highly or write praises (pagpupugay) sa taong namatay. It will never be about you the speaker or anyone except of the person who died. Yun ang eulogy. Pag sarili mo na ang topic ng talk mo well d na yun eulogy. Di pwedeng putak ng putak ng di alam ang meaning ng eulogy.

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  26. I totally agree too. some people who gets up there for the eulogy are just trying to make themselves look good and para malaman ng mga tao na ganito ako ka close sa namatay. tama na it is not about you it is about the deceased. wag masyado ibida ang sarili kasi ang mga taong nakikinig di sila interesado sa yo kundi doon sa namatay.

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  27. Buti pa Ms Vilma Santos she went there early,no press releases,no dramas,she spent time honoring and praying for Madam Susan,to think it is still pandemic and mga senior stars nakikipag siksikan kung saan marami ang press at mga ka showbizan

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  28. Who is she refering to? anyways, both my parents have died and we never did these. Its all for those who are left behind. The deceased won't be able to hear anymore soo, I just think that these eulogies are for spectators not for the dead.

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  29. naalala ko nung namatay ang lola ko di ba meron pa-video presentation ang st. peter, ang nagasikaso yung pinsan ko bale siya ang nagprovide ng materials para sa video. gusto din bida syempre video yun. ayun bawat photo sa vid nandun siya at ang gaganda ng shots nya so parang siya binibigyan ng tribute sa video imbes na ung lola namin 🀣🀣🀣

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  30. Base sa majority ng comments dito, ayaw talaga naten na kinokorek tayo. Lagi dahilan emotion nya yun or ganun talaga. Kaya nga binigay nya yun thoughts nya abt writing eulogies. Para sa susunod pwede magamit as guide. Never talaga receptive ang Pinoys sa auggestions to further improve them. Ang tingin lagi dun sa nagsusuggest is nagmamarunong. Inate na ba talaga sa atin ang smart shaming

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    1. Tumpak. Andaming humahanash at ayaw malugar sa tama. Tsk tsk.

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    2. Correct ka sizt!!!

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  31. Sa totoo lang parang ikaw na lang makakaramdam ng hiya sa eulogy na halos tungkol sa kanya at sa asawa ng namatay. Parang nakalimutan yata na dapat yung eulogy ay alay para dun sa naka-burol. Ang nakaka-amuse lang ay hindi maubos ubos ang luha at sya yata ang pinakamaraming iniyak. Hayy...

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  32. I laughed and cried with Eddie Gutierrez at doon sa bestfriend nya si Ms. Pempe Rodrigo. Iba talaga pag ang nagkwento ay taong nakasama mo ng napakatagal na panahon. I was touched also by the stories of Roderick Paulate and Helen Gamboa. You see a glimpse of Susan as a person. Yung sa iba I intentionally didnt watch para na din sa aking peace of mind lol dahil alam mo nang its all about them again.

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  33. Ito problema sa mga Pinoy eh. Tinuruan mo na nga ng good manners and right conduct and basic etiquette, sila pa galit. Alam mong mga taong walang disiplina at puro emosyon lang ang pinapairal. Tinama mo na nga, mangangatwiran pa.

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    1. Palibhasa kasi wala ng ganyang subject. Nakakalungkot sa totoo lang! tapos sasabihin nila invalidating their feelings teeh nakakaloka ka isama kaya kita sa icre2mateπŸ˜…

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  34. Ung isa lng po ung alam ko pa spluk naman po nung dlawa lalaki or babae po ba? Clue please πŸ˜…

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  35. The bereaved family of the dead don’t want to hear your autobiography during a eulogy. Grabe, this person even talked about the birth of each of her child and where her husband went to school in the U.S. Kulang na lang ikwento nya love story nya with her first husband. Walang self awareness talaga.

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    1. true grabe talaga siya

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    2. Sino yan? Give clues pls. Sorry no time to watch the eulogy.

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    3. Ang OA mo naman. Di naman niya kinuwento birth of all her kids. Tapos na yan. Move on na tayo.

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  36. Well, the problem is that other bereaved families have a different opinion from yours! What matters most to them is nakikiramay ka sa kanila ... genuinely!

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  37. Clue naman kung sino mga ka-Marites pleaassseee.

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  38. sino ba pinapatamaan???

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  39. She was telling stories about her memories and adventures with the deceased in the wake. Hindi ba yun ang purpose ng eulogy? She’s full of praise for FPJ and Susan all throughout her speech. I don’t get the bashing. I though eulogy is about relieving memories too

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    1. although fpj is the dearly beloved of the departed, the eulogy should focus more on kung sino ang nakaburol at the moment. hindi yung matagal ng namayapa.

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    2. Even Grace said in her tribute, this is not about FPJ but about you mom

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    1. Di ko gets Si C! Clue naman kay C pls.

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    2. Ty for th clue 😊

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    3. I don't think C and E. Si S lang talaga.

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  41. Maricel Soriano's tribute to Ms. Susan Roces is short but sweet and heartwarming.

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    1. yes, short pero nakwento nya kung ano yung relationship nya kay Ms. Susan. Gusto ko din yung kay Roderick.

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    2. At ang intro pa sa kanya anak-anakan ni Ms. Susan kasi nagkasama naman sila sa movie at TV. yet hindi pa importante si Marya at talagang pinadama ang pagmamahal niya sa Mama Susan niya. Grabe, anak anakan din si Marya ng other great actresses like Ms. Nida Blanca, Ms. Charito Solis.

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  42. Tama nga naman. Akala ko wala makakapansin hehehe
    parang Hindi na sa namatay yung EULOGY puro kanyang kwento at sa asawa ng namatay.

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  43. What the heck! Everyone is emotional. Meron pa palang guidelines.

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  44. Meh, nonsense. There are kinds of eulogies. Don’t pretend that you know best. Why should anyone follow your rules? Lol.

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  45. Shut up people. Everyone has the right to eulogies someone base on their experiences and or relationship with the departed. It’s none of your business.

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  46. Fans po kami ni Lola Caring sa HK mga ofw's po kami.. Huwag nalang siya maki alam.

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  47. Whether you followed any guidelines or not, it’s still way better to be kind than to be right.

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    1. True pero baka bwisit lang talga sa eulogy nung Isa

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    2. Thank you. I agree with you.

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  48. Si Sheryl yata

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  49. Wrong timing na post. Yes, i agree sa mga sinabi, pero passive agressive. Tapos na nagbigay ng eulogies sa ka nagcritic. VERY OBVIOUS naman kung saan galing yang lessons niya. Sana before pa ng eulogies nagbigay nang reminder. Kung for future reference na, sana next month, ganun, para di naman superobvious.

    Look at the comments here. Naging blind item na sinong nagdeliber ng eulogy na about sarili, na about asawa, na overly mahaba, na hindi close at hindi sincere, etc. Timing is key sa ganyang posts. Andun na tayo sa tapos na ang eulogy, need pa gawan ng blind items? That's not the intent but walang foresight kung di man lang naisip yan. Nakakahiya sa pamilya ng namatay. Have some class.

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    1. 9:28, i couldnt agree more.

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  50. Jusme pati eulogy pupunahin. Dami nyong problema ah.

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