12:39 imaginary agad pwede namang me pinoproteksyunan lang sya na kapakanan or pinagbawalan ng korte kung may filed na case. Just because di mo nakita di ibig sabihin di nangyari. Ganto lang yan, kung tayo na naka-anonymous dito e ibig sabihin ba IMAGINARY lang din tayo?
What about her family issues of not telling the truth about how her own father was the one providing for her pala? Unahin muna niya yan before ang S.H bandwagon niya.
Kaya madaming rape victims ang di nagsusumbong dahil sa mga tulad mo 12:39. Mahirap talaga iprove ang sexual harassment at rape pero hindi mo pwedeng sabihin na imaginary na lang lagi
Si 12:39 ay isang s mga close minded n tao. Dhil lng b n hndi maibigay ang pangalan, imaginary n. Dhil lng b n hindi nakita, imaginary n. Pano n kya utak mo, hndi mo rin nman ito nakikita dba. No one can see their own brain not unless kung pinabukas mo ang ulo mo at kya mo pa controlin ang mga senses mo.
For closeminded people, they still blame the victim, no matter who or what. Even though if they have similar nationality. Much worse if it is within their families. They'll still blame the victim. Reality hurts
True 12:33am I agreed with you but why ngayon lang sya nag-speak up, sana noon pa eh ang tagal na nyang nakoronahan. Sana either before or after nya mailipat ang crown eh nagsalita na sya para na-address kagad ang issue.
You have no idea kung gaano nakakatakot na magsalita. Sino ba naman siya at sino maniniwala sa kanya dati? Kung pader kung babanggain niya? Nagsalita siya now kasi marami nang nagsasalita. Hindi nakikisakay yun. Naghintay lang siya ng mas matapang sa kanya.
1:05 maybe because not everyone is brave enough? maybe at that time they thought, bka ok lng tong ganito? bka normal lang to? and now that someone has spoken and called out the pervs, e chance na ren nila sabihin ang experience nila, ng walanhg takot? let's not silence the women. sa pinas pa, lam naten naglipana mang abusadong manyakis..e d lalo na sa mga ganyang pageant, daming access sa mga babae.
Hindi bandwagon yun. Ganyan talaga kaprevalent ang sexual harassment. I understand the feelingng victins na di na nagpress ng charges kasi masyadong mahirap makakuha ng justice sa ganyang kaso. He said she said situation. I myself got harassed 3x na while commuting and I never presed charges but I know I became more empathetic of other victins and I gained more admiration for those who speak up because of my experience. At least man lang may makuha akong positive sa nakakadiring experience ko
totoo to! I was once a victim also. kailan lang ako nagsalita, when allegedly, ung perpetuator sa workplace ko, ay namanyak ng mas matapang at pinadampot sya habang nagtratrabaho sya. mas nakakahiya yon, then eventually, I speak up, kasi nagkalakas ako ng loob para ilabas ang saloobin ko.
kasi mga atey, pag beauty queen ganyan kung minsan mababa ang tingin sa kanila ng mga lalaki. Lalo na ng mga mayayaman. These men think na bayaran lahat ng mga babae.
why are she telling about this now? sumasakay lang sa issue,naghahanap ng karamay, so if walang nagdivulge, she will keep it to herself na lang? I don't get it.
she is telling this now, because someone started telling her stories. someone had the courage first to come out, and she probably realized, ok lng pla mag come out. we need more of this actually. kasi mga beauty queens pa yan, pano pa yungm ga unknown or mga d nanalo..
12:42, gurl, you don't need to get it. All you need to feel is compassion and understanding. Tanungin mo sarili mo kung sa yo kaya nangyari yan at alam mong kapitapitagan ang tao o mga taong gumagawa nyan. Magsasalita ka ba? This is something na sana hwag mangyari sa yo or to any of your kins or anyone you know.
What is she saying "evil" not win e andun pa din yung pari, yung businessman na lalong yumaman, yung Politician na negosyo ang posisyon, hahahaha! Dapat lang siyang matakot dahil Batas ni Satanas ang nangingibabaw sa ngayon. Antay niya yung RuLe of God dun pwede na siya magreklamo!
“Speak now or forever hold your peace”, eh? No, it doesnt work like that. To gain courage and speak up may take time. I am glad girls (pageant queens or not) are speaking up.
Mismong sa korte may tinatawag na prescription period. Di kailangang immediately ang pagreport para maging totoo. Maybe naikwento na ny yan dati sa iba pero ngayon ang publicly to show support sa mga ms earth candidates. What she's doing is very brave.
It happens more often than you think. The sad part is minsan mga babae mismo hindi nila alam they're being sexually harassed na pala. Either that or they're afraid to speak up.
mostly afraid to speak up kasi ang dami rin victim blaming kagaya ng ibang commenters dito. at pag na harassed ka kasi mabibigla ka at maninigas di mo alam pano mag react.
Others started to speak up about it that she found the courage and inspiration to do the same. Instead of asking "why only now" why don't we just applaud her for finally being brave to talk it in the open, create discussion about it and hopefully inspire others to be brave too and take no shit from sexual predators. Instead of victim shaming/questioning why not teach our children to be decent human beings and not do the same mistakes as those adult men (also women & lgbtq) commit.
1:15, exactly how I feel. I am just really surprised that there are people who do not and seems to me cannot empathize with victims of sexual harassment, especially those who kept quiet and didn't find the courage to go out in the open. I just hope that there will be more who will come out in the open to talk about it and put to shame not themselves but the perpetrators of such.
mga sponsors naman kasi feeling nila pag-aari nila ang mga beauty contestants na pedeng mag ask ng private favors. dapat sa mga beauty organizers may sariling pondo or mag pa -raffle kayo para legit at malinis ang funds.
Ako rin— A maniac touched me inappropriately as he was standing behind me sa LRT. I didnt k ow how to react. I didnt want to cause a commotion sa LRT with hundreds of people. I was afraid. Pero kung ibabalik lang ang panahon, pucha! Sinapak ko yun at nagwala ako sa LRT .
Ay nangyare din sa akin yan kaso bakla yung kumapit sa akin. Yung pagbukas ng door sa isang station nakita ako nung bakla pero maluwag naman mrt nun dahil election day kaya kokonti lang pasahero humawak sa balikat ko at braso yung bading imbis na dun sa mga estribo! Hahaha! Napatingin ako sa kanya at siya din pero bigla siyang lumipat dun sa malayo natakot cguro.
12:35 hindi rin. kasi naranasan ko sa bus yan. nakatulog ako nakita ko na lang may nakapatong na kamay sa kaliwang diddib ko. nagtaka ako kasi bakit naging 3 ang kamay ko. hinampas kong bag at payong yung manyak pero walang tumulong sa akin bagkus hininto ng driver yung bus at hinayaang bumaba yung manyak. wala na ako magawa kasi nanghina na ako sa takot at galit.
From experience, some co-passengers nagpaparinig sa victim kasi ayaw nilang naiinconvenience. May mga taong walang oakialam sa kapwa babae nila, kahit nabiktima na. Dami na nga dito sa comment section
Kahit saan me manyak na pinoy..if you call them out on the spot pagtatawanan ka lang nila..sasabihan ka pa uy te akala no naman maganda ka or hinde kita type..feeling ka masydo..ganyan sila kababastos..
Dapat talaga isiwalat na yung mga galawan ng mga pervert na yan. Don't blame anyone for "taking all this time" para magsalita kasi MAHIRAP TALAGA MAGSALITA esp if powerful or influential kalaban mo. Ikaw ang sisisihin, o sasabihang sinungaling. Just look here, people are saying she's doing this for attention. Who wants that kind of attention? Mas may lakas ng loob na lang talaga mga victims ngayon kasi stronger yung sense of solidarity and more empathize with the victims. Because sexual harrassment really happens more often than people think.
Kaya kayong mga manyak, kayo ang matakot at mahiya, hindi kami!
Do you thinks persons who experienced such harassment like the attention they get you ignorant people are implying? It's emotionally draining to recall and relive such experience. Sharing it to others at the risk of judgmental people, like some people here, to scrutinize takes a lot of courage and much thinking because they don't only expose what happened to them but they expose themselves to people who lack empathy & compassion. Instead of creating a safer environment for everyone we have become a society that blames the victim, instill fear for the oppressed, promotes violence and tries to hide the truth. Instead of progressing into better human beings we are becoming more and more like unevolved species with backward thinking.
When it happens, the victim sometimes think she/he might have been mistaken, or that she/he misunderstood. She/he knows deep inside that something happened, but she/he keeps quiet because she/he thinks she might be wrong, that the perpetrator, when they have the image of being honourable and with plenty of influence, had actually done it. It's her/his word versus his/her. Then they bury it, try to forget it. And then it comes out when there's a trigger, a catalyst for them to speak out.
I was molested by my 12yr old relative at 10, on my birthday, and I haven't yet actually spoken of it 3 decades on. Lucky for me, I am seeing the works of karma avenging me for what he did.
Is she referring to Mutya Datul when they were in congress?
ReplyDeletePag ganyang wala naman siyang ni namesung e considered as Imaginary Happenings lang yan.
Delete12:39 imaginary agad pwede namang me pinoproteksyunan lang sya na kapakanan or pinagbawalan ng korte kung may filed na case. Just because di mo nakita di ibig sabihin di nangyari.
DeleteGanto lang yan, kung tayo na naka-anonymous dito e ibig sabihin ba IMAGINARY lang din tayo?
What about her family issues of not telling the truth about how her own father was the one providing for her pala? Unahin muna niya yan before ang S.H bandwagon niya.
DeleteKaya madaming rape victims ang di nagsusumbong dahil sa mga tulad mo 12:39. Mahirap talaga iprove ang sexual harassment at rape pero hindi mo pwedeng sabihin na imaginary na lang lagi
DeleteSi 12:39 ay isang s mga close minded n tao. Dhil lng b n hndi maibigay ang pangalan, imaginary n. Dhil lng b n hindi nakita, imaginary n. Pano n kya utak mo, hndi mo rin nman ito nakikita dba. No one can see their own brain not unless kung pinabukas mo ang ulo mo at kya mo pa controlin ang mga senses mo.
DeleteDifferent issues 1:57. Her family matters is hers to keep to herself is she wants to.
DeleteKung kapwa pinoy kaya natin ang na harass magiging ganito pa rin ka big deal? Or baka na victim blame pa.
ReplyDeleteFor closeminded people, they still blame the victim, no matter who or what. Even though if they have similar nationality. Much worse if it is within their families. They'll still blame the victim. Reality hurts
Deletedumadami mga bandwagon.
ReplyDeleteNo sis, lahat ng friends ko mapa pangit man o maganda may ganyang exp sa mga lalake. Ganyan karami ang mga manyakis satin.
DeleteTrue 12:33am I agreed with you but why ngayon lang sya nag-speak up, sana noon pa eh ang tagal na nyang nakoronahan. Sana either before or after nya mailipat ang crown eh nagsalita na sya para na-address kagad ang issue.
DeleteYou have no idea kung gaano nakakatakot na magsalita. Sino ba naman siya at sino maniniwala sa kanya dati? Kung pader kung babanggain niya? Nagsalita siya now kasi marami nang nagsasalita. Hindi nakikisakay yun. Naghintay lang siya ng mas matapang sa kanya.
Delete1:05 maybe because not everyone is brave enough? maybe at that time they thought, bka ok lng tong ganito? bka normal lang to? and now that someone has spoken and called out the pervs, e chance na ren nila sabihin ang experience nila, ng walanhg takot? let's not silence the women. sa pinas pa, lam naten naglipana mang abusadong manyakis..e d lalo na sa mga ganyang pageant, daming access sa mga babae.
DeleteJOINING THE BANDWAGON OR NOT, I'LL FOREVER SIDE THE VICTIM!
DeleteHindi bandwagon yun. Ganyan talaga kaprevalent ang sexual harassment. I understand the feelingng victins na di na nagpress ng charges kasi masyadong mahirap makakuha ng justice sa ganyang kaso. He said she said situation. I myself got harassed 3x na while commuting and I never presed charges but I know I became more empathetic of other victins and I gained more admiration for those who speak up because of my experience. At least man lang may makuha akong positive sa nakakadiring experience ko
Deletetotoo to! I was once a victim also. kailan lang ako nagsalita, when allegedly, ung perpetuator sa workplace ko, ay namanyak ng mas matapang at pinadampot sya habang nagtratrabaho sya. mas nakakahiya yon, then eventually, I speak up, kasi nagkalakas ako ng loob para ilabas ang saloobin ko.
Deletekasi mga atey, pag beauty queen ganyan kung minsan mababa ang tingin sa kanila ng mga lalaki. Lalo na ng mga mayayaman. These men think na bayaran lahat ng mga babae.
Deletewhy are she telling about this now? sumasakay lang sa issue,naghahanap ng karamay, so if walang nagdivulge, she will keep it to herself na lang? I don't get it.
ReplyDeleteshe is telling this now, because someone started telling her stories. someone had the courage first to come out, and she probably realized, ok lng pla mag come out. we need more of this actually. kasi mga beauty queens pa yan, pano pa yungm ga unknown or mga d nanalo..
Delete12:42, gurl, you don't need to get it. All you need to feel is compassion and understanding. Tanungin mo sarili mo kung sa yo kaya nangyari yan at alam mong kapitapitagan ang tao o mga taong gumagawa nyan. Magsasalita ka ba? This is something na sana hwag mangyari sa yo or to any of your kins or anyone you know.
DeleteKaya maraming takot magsalita dahil sa mga gaya ni 1242
DeleteKya din sya natakot dahil baka madamay ang love ones nya. Malalaking tao ang babanggain nya. Pinalala p ng mga taong tulad mo 12:42
DeleteWhat is she saying "evil" not win e andun pa din yung pari, yung businessman na lalong yumaman, yung Politician na negosyo ang posisyon, hahahaha! Dapat lang siyang matakot dahil Batas ni Satanas ang nangingibabaw sa ngayon. Antay niya yung RuLe of God dun pwede na siya magreklamo!
ReplyDeleteYun naman pla eh bakit ngayon kayo nagsasalita. Dapat simula pa lang nagsalita na kayo. Lumalabas tuloy nakikiuso lang
ReplyDelete“Speak now or forever hold your peace”, eh? No, it doesnt work like that. To gain courage and speak up may take time. I am glad girls (pageant queens or not) are speaking up.
Delete12:51 - HINDI MO MAGEGETS KASI HINDI MO NAMAN NARANASAN.
DeletePAANO MO ISUSUMBONG KUNG IYONG GUMAWA NUN SA'YO E POWERFUL? PAANO?
Mismong sa korte may tinatawag na prescription period. Di kailangang immediately ang pagreport para maging totoo. Maybe naikwento na ny yan dati sa iba pero ngayon ang publicly to show support sa mga ms earth candidates. What she's doing is very brave.
DeleteIt happens more often than you think. The sad part is minsan mga babae mismo hindi nila alam they're being sexually harassed na pala. Either that or they're afraid to speak up.
ReplyDeletemostly afraid to speak up kasi ang dami rin victim blaming kagaya ng ibang commenters dito. at pag na harassed ka kasi mabibigla ka at maninigas di mo alam pano mag react.
DeleteOthers started to speak up about it that she found the courage and inspiration to do the same. Instead of asking "why only now" why don't we just applaud her for finally being brave to talk it in the open, create discussion about it and hopefully inspire others to be brave too and take no shit from sexual predators. Instead of victim shaming/questioning why not teach our children to be decent human beings and not do the same mistakes as those adult men (also women & lgbtq) commit.
ReplyDelete1:15, exactly how I feel. I am just really surprised that there are people who do not and seems to me cannot empathize with victims of sexual harassment, especially those who kept quiet and didn't find the courage to go out in the open. I just hope that there will be more who will come out in the open to talk about it and put to shame not themselves but the perpetrators of such.
Deletemga sponsors naman kasi feeling nila pag-aari nila ang mga beauty contestants na pedeng mag ask ng private favors. dapat sa mga beauty organizers may sariling pondo or mag pa -raffle kayo para legit at malinis ang funds.
ReplyDeleteAko rin— A maniac touched me inappropriately as he was standing behind me sa LRT. I didnt k ow how to react. I didnt want to cause a commotion sa LRT with hundreds of people. I was afraid. Pero kung ibabalik lang ang panahon, pucha! Sinapak ko yun at nagwala ako sa LRT .
ReplyDelete@2:04 Touch him back. Patas lng di ba?
DeleteI think pag sumigaw ka ng manyak, im sure tutulungan ka ng other passengers at sure detained yung suspect. Same goes sa mga snatcher sa train
DeleteAy nangyare din sa akin yan kaso bakla yung kumapit sa akin. Yung pagbukas ng door sa isang station nakita ako nung bakla pero maluwag naman mrt nun dahil election day kaya kokonti lang pasahero humawak sa balikat ko at braso yung bading imbis na dun sa mga estribo! Hahaha! Napatingin ako sa kanya at siya din pero bigla siyang lumipat dun sa malayo natakot cguro.
Delete12:35 hindi rin. kasi naranasan ko sa bus yan. nakatulog ako nakita ko na lang may nakapatong na kamay sa kaliwang diddib ko. nagtaka ako kasi bakit naging 3 ang kamay ko. hinampas kong bag at payong yung manyak pero walang tumulong sa akin bagkus hininto ng driver yung bus at hinayaang bumaba yung manyak. wala na ako magawa kasi nanghina na ako sa takot at galit.
DeleteMe too!!!! Hindi pa ko beauty queen niyan ha! Madaming maniac sa Pilipinas!
DeleteFrom experience, some co-passengers nagpaparinig sa victim kasi ayaw nilang naiinconvenience. May mga taong walang oakialam sa kapwa babae nila, kahit nabiktima na. Dami na nga dito sa comment section
Deletethings you do to make yourself relevant
ReplyDeletewow. grabe siya. ipag pray kita sana hindi mo danasin ang nangyari sa kanya....
Delete4:34 things some people do to enable mga manyak :p
DeleteSILENCE IS NOT AN OPTION
ReplyDeleteIT IS INITIALLY WHEN YOU'RE SHOCKED OR SCARED OF THE PERPETRATOR.
Deletehay mga pinoy walang kupas, gaya gaya at ningas cogon
ReplyDeleteKahit saan me manyak na pinoy..if you call them out on the spot pagtatawanan ka lang nila..sasabihan ka pa uy te akala no naman maganda ka or hinde kita type..feeling ka masydo..ganyan sila kababastos..
ReplyDeletekaya maraming may lakas ng loob kasi alam nila karamihan ng mga babae hindi pumapalag.
DeleteY speak now? Sumasakay sa issue.
ReplyDeleteI dont believe her. Y? Before nanalo sya ng binibini. She said something bad againts his father. D pala totoo.
Dapat talaga isiwalat na yung mga galawan ng mga pervert na yan. Don't blame anyone for "taking all this time" para magsalita kasi MAHIRAP TALAGA MAGSALITA esp if powerful or influential kalaban mo. Ikaw ang sisisihin, o sasabihang sinungaling. Just look here, people are saying she's doing this for attention. Who wants that kind of attention? Mas may lakas ng loob na lang talaga mga victims ngayon kasi stronger yung sense of solidarity and more empathize with the victims. Because sexual harrassment really happens more often than people think.
ReplyDeleteKaya kayong mga manyak, kayo ang matakot at mahiya, hindi kami!
Nakakasuka kaying mga nagsasabing nakiki uso or nakiki ride lang ung mga nagspeak up now. Ugh.
ReplyDeleteDo you thinks persons who experienced such harassment like the attention they get you ignorant people are implying? It's emotionally draining to recall and relive such experience. Sharing it to others at the risk of judgmental people, like some people here, to scrutinize takes a lot of courage and much thinking because they don't only expose what happened to them but they expose themselves to people who lack empathy & compassion. Instead of creating a safer environment for everyone we have become a society that blames the victim, instill fear for the oppressed, promotes violence and tries to hide the truth. Instead of progressing into better human beings we are becoming more and more like unevolved species with backward thinking.
ReplyDeleteNo one should be harrassed for not speaking up earlier. True or not, it takes time to heal and it is a courageous move.
ReplyDeleteWhen it happens, the victim sometimes think she/he might have been mistaken, or that she/he misunderstood. She/he knows deep inside that something happened, but she/he keeps quiet because she/he thinks she might be wrong, that the perpetrator, when they have the image of being honourable and with plenty of influence, had actually done it. It's her/his word versus his/her. Then they bury it, try to forget it. And then it comes out when there's a trigger, a catalyst for them to speak out.
ReplyDeleteI was molested by my 12yr old relative at 10, on my birthday, and I haven't yet actually spoken of it 3 decades on. Lucky for me, I am seeing the works of karma avenging me for what he did.