1. How long ago was the incident? 2. Is that the photograph taken at the time of the incident? 3. What kind of first aid remedy did the flight crew do to address the incident? 4. Did the family bring the child to the hospital for medical treatment immediately after the flight? If so, how soon after the flight? Which hospital? Where is the medical report? How much did it cost?
Naku PAL, you should address this issue, pag nagkataon, d lang sa delayed flights kayo sisikat. Sa nakikita ko sa picture, hindi ito maayos ng free ticket lang.
correct..i am also an airline crew..who in her right mind would give boiling water to a 10 yr old kid? And where were the companions of this kid? And we cant boil water inflight..Theres hot water from the brewer but not boiled.. There are two sides to this story..
actually parang nabasa ko na 'to na, pero parang Cebu Pacific naman, not sure though. be that as it may, nung 14 yo pa lang ako, nabuhusan ko sarili ko ng kumukulong tubig, nagtitimpla ng kape, nabasag yung tasa sa sobrang init, tumapon sa tyan ko, ayun lapnos, but hindi ganyan ichura, parang nabalatan sya. walang blisters na ganyan. Fave ko hot chocolate ng CebuPac kaya lagi ako bumibili nun sa kanila, yung tubig mainit talaga to the point that you have to wait para mainom, but not boiling hot. Kung mapapaso ako, siguro second degree at worst.
first of all, where are the parents of the kid? bakit hinayaan lang sya? we flew cebupac and we asked for warm water to make milk for our baby. the FA warned us that they don't have warm water, hot water lang talaga. so we put room temp water sa milk bottle then asked the FA to add the hot water in it. so pagdating sa amin hindi scalding hot yung tubig.
both parties need to take responsibility for this incident.
Bakit super lapnos? Even if it isnt a "warm Water" i dont think it will cause this much. Even if it is indeed boiled water, it will ease out a bit as the stewardess will need to walk thru their chair. Did it come straight from the thermos? Even so, it wont cause that much burn. Its as if a hot iron burned her skin. Poor kid.
Im with you here... even boiling water will not do this much hard... i had a relative who was accidentally poured with water boiling from the stove, and it did not even produce blood like this pick seems to show... my sympathies to the kid but truth must come out...
Agree. 10 or so years ago, I was cooking pancit canton and my sister was helping me. I swear it was an accident but I poured boiling water on my sister's hand instead of the drainer. Namula lang ng bongga yung skin nya at syempre niyare ako ng nanay ko dahil mega hiyaw sya pero hindi ganyan.
Water boils at a higher temperature because of the altitude . Believe me my Mom had a similar accident with PAL . Same looking burn on her inner thigh. And it went through her dress. We went straight home after the incident but went to their clinic the following day because it looked really bad . They referred us to Cardinal hospital and gave free meds. Overall customer service was satisfactory so we didn't make a big issue out of it.
Proper tea is made with water that has been heated to 100c — the temperature at which it boils on the ground. Unfortunately, in the reduced-pressure environment of an aircraft cabin, the boiling point of water is lowered to around 90c, which means that the brewing process is unsatisfactory. For the same reason, you cannot have a decent cuppa high in the mountains.
True. medyo madaming inconsistencies. Parang ang oa naman ng burn kung boiling water. usually medjj mamumula lang, mahapdi, tska parang magtutubig na ewan pag nabuhusan ka. At boiling water sa plane??? You couldn't even ask for a decent cup of coffee pag inflight. Pasalamat ka na kung hot kasi madalas lukewarm ang maibibigay sayo.
Hehe afford naman ng PAL yung ganyan. Yung kakilala namin dating nagtatrabaho sa PAL. Lifetime free sila kahit saan, basta dun lang sila sasakay sa di nabentang seat.
Hehe afford naman ng PAL yung ganyan. Yung kakilala namin dating nagtatrabaho sa PAL. Lifetime free sila kahit saan, basta dun lang sila sasakay sa di nabentang seat.
Poor kid....but still, we need to here the flight attendant's side...remember there is always two sides of the story. We better listen then we can judge.
Sorry but I'm calling bullsh*t on this. If you ask for drinking water, it will be placed in a transparent plastic cup. If it was boiling water, di sana nagmelt yung cup. Plus they don't have boiling water on flight. Even the coffee ain't that hot.
Never nagserve ang airline ng boiling water any airline...and kng nabuhusan ka antimano punas agad un ang una reaction sa pic na yan parang galing sa perculator ang tubig at di pinunasan. Just saying
Anonymous March 1, 2015 at 2:47 PM Hey there. I get what you mean, but I was just pointing out that if the kid had asked for warm water, likely that the attendant would have placed it in a transparent plastic cup. So even if she mistakenly placed hot water, it would have melted the cup. I have asked for warm water before, which is actually more like normal temp water which they pour from a distilled water bottle. It is placed in a plastic cup. When i ask for coffee, i get that in a styro, but even that is not even particularly hot.
It's a hot water, way more than what a human skin can tolerate. They need to compensate and pay the child's expenses. No money can amount to the pain that the child could have felt in that moment.
As an ex FA myself, the story and picture is ridiculous. We don't have boiling water inside the aircraft. We only have hot water we use for our tea and coffee services. Hot water will not give you severe wounds when you get burned. We also give first aid automatically when needed, and we make a report about the incident. The complainant is not telling the truth.
as an aside, since dati ka palang DA, anon 5:48, i noticed marami sa FA ng Philippine Airlines nag fe-feeling maganda. for example, para silang rumarampa kapag naglalakad at feel na feel nila ang pagiging FA nila as in GGSS talaga. ganito rin ang case ng mga male FAs. nakakatawa lang minsan kasi pag dating naman sa loob ng eroplano, eh, hello, serve-serve sila ng tea at kape! gosh! just sayin! at may biscuit pang ibinibigay. nacaca loca!
Some Pinoys naman kasi kapag nagfa-fly, feeling nila amo sila ng mga FA.
The FAs are not your servants, they have a job to do, serving you food & beverage is only part of it. Carrying your luggage and cleaning up after your mess and your child's and other BS you have is not part of their job. Lumalabas ang pagka ignorante ng iba dito. #imtalkingtoyou1121
anon 2:29 true. Masyadong mayabang si ate. kung makataas sa sarili over. Pero tanungin muna natin siya kung talagang nakasakay na siya sa eroplano. Malay mo naman may pinaghuhugutan ang pagiging ignorante niya
agree, anon 3:02. some of them are rude even. many times sumasakay ako sa PAL for official business at na notice ko yun. there was a time na makulit yung bata sa likod ko sa i transferred sa ibang seat na vacant naman talaga. aba, lumapit sa akin yung isang make FA at tinanong ako ba parang nagtataray kung bakit daw ako lumipat. ok lang magtanong pero yung pagtatanong nya, parang nagalit pa sa akin. sinabi ko na lang na nahihilo ako dahil inuuga nung bata yung likuran ng upuan ko kaya wala na syang nasabi pa.
According to rules (as sanctioned by law) passengers cant transfer without permission. You have to notify the FA if you want to transfer because one way of determining the identity of the passengers is thru the seating arrangement as indicated upon checking in.
That case was a lot of bull. Even legal experts say it should have been thrown out at first instance. Guess the judge wanted to be controversial. No other case of the same kind has ever gone far ever since. Case of similar nature no longer reach trial because they are an anomaly.
yah, sa US yan, dito sa Pilipinas, good luck kung mananalo ka. binabayaran ang mga legal counsel ngayon so i am sure walang mangyayari sa complaint mo.
I suggest you do more research and check the Mcdonald's victim after the incident. Nakakaawa yung matanda. Ridiculous as it seems pero because of that case nakita na may mga establishments na di nasunod sa tamang standard ng temperature ng hot water.
Airplanes only have hot water, not boiling water. The water is from a "faucet-like" machine in the galley/kitchen and can only sustain first degree burns. I have accidentaly hurt myself numerous times with hot water on the plane, and the photo above is definitely not from hot water in the aircraft.
Miss saan galing ang water then if not from the aircraft? Di ba bawal ang tubig or any liquid pagsakay ng plane? Hmmm, ikaw siguro ang isang attendant ng PAL or kaya naman kapamilya mo yung attendant na ito. Hello...gising gising
Tama si flight attendant, sorry. Wala silang device to make the water boil. Laging nasa pot yung hot water nila. The kid doesnt deserve to be burned but this is fishy. And her arms look like she was burned by boiling coffee, not boiling water. Honestly, unang pinuntahan eh social media vs hospital?
Madami naman siguradong witness sa incident na ito, sana walang suhulang mangyari. Kung halimbawang mag-isa nag fly laloo si kid, hindi naman siguro sya pababayaan ng mga katabi nya at malamang may magagalit on her behalf. Sorry, this is is fishy talaga. Mas feel ko namang sumakay ng pal kaysa American airlines (and I mean Delta and others since AA doesn't fly to MNL) at at ang dami ko ng nakasabay na unsupervised minors at lagi silang chinecheck ng mga attendants.
I agree with the above comment, PAL flights, especially international, have wayyy better service than other airlines. Better food, friendlier attendants and nicer seats. Ang saya nga ng mga Pinoy sa America that PAL is back offering US flights.
agree anon 2:41 on the mayabang na asta ng mga PAL attendant. akala nyo kung sino silang umasta eh super dali nga ng trabaho nyo! gosh! not because maganda o guwapo kayo eh mag fe feeling kayo na superior kayo noh! hello, no brainer ang trabaho nyo! sus mio!
Anon 11:27. Pwede ka naman sumangayon nang hindi ng iinsulto. Hindi madali ang pagiging FA madaming pinagdadaanan ang mga yan bago maisabak sa tunay na trabaho. Kung tingin mo na puro sila paganda at papogi lang then ikaw pala ang walang utak. Saludo ako sa ginagawa nila. At least sila nagtatrabaho ng marangal.
2:41 how ignorant of you. bka mapahiya ka pag nakita mo ang manuals na sinasaulo at inaaral ng mga cabin crew before sila ma release to fly. fyi, licensed po ang cabin crew meaning hndi porket maganda o gwapo ka e papasa ka. do ur research no.
Mayayabang talaga FA ng PAL. Akalain mo ba na ayaw patulong sana na iakyat yun luggage overhead? Ang rason ay di naman daw sila mga utusan at buong araw daw dala na ng passenger yun luggage na yun. The nerve. Sila ang mga FA na di kagandahan itabi mo pa sa FA ng SIA at Cathay. Sobrang yabang.
hindi naman kasi tlga nila trabaho na buhatin ang bags mo. it's an international rule. it can cause injury to them lalo kung lahat e tutulungan nila. and mind you dito lang sa pilipinas inirereklamo na hindi nag bububat ng bags ang cabin crew! at totoo naman simole rule YOUR BAG YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. dinala mo yan e buhatin mo.
susku mio the nerve talaga. never akong nakarinig ng ganyan sa kahit na anong airline. kung magkaroon ng survey makikita natin na sa PAL lang may attitude na ganyan. Sana FP mag-initiate ka ng ganitong survey. for sure mga pinoy lang ang kayang ganyanin ng mga FA na kapwa pinoy din. kaya tau umaasenso sa pagiging mas mairap pa dahil wala tayong malasakit sa anything na pinoy tao man o bansa.
Naku naman hinay hinay din kayo. May mga pinoys din naman kse na kung magutos akala mo sila nagpapasweldo sa mya FAs. Wala naman akong experience sa flight ko sa PAL. They were kind and helpful to me. Mind your please and thank yous. Pag magpapatulong kang maglagay ng gamit mo sa overhead bin makiusap ka din at umeffort ka din tumulong. Yung iba kse wow nakatayo lang at inaasahan yung FA lahat ang gagawa.
3.43 eveytime na may ads for FA sila kelangan ang reach ang candidate ay mahaba talaga. What for kung hindi ka matulungan na maitaas yun bagahe ang reach na yun? Saka hindi lahat nag papatulong. Saka tulong yun at hindi ipapabuhat sayo buong buo. Sana andun kang nangyari sa nanay ko. Nagtimpi na lang ako kasi ayaw ko makipag sagutan sa alam kong bastos at pera lang talaga at di serbisyo ang hanap.
Sana hindi ka FA kasi kung FA ka ng PAL, pakilagay po sa isip ninyo na gusto namin sumakay sa sariling flag carrier, kung saan namin naiisip na mas magagalang ang pinoy FA, mas masarap kumaon ng sailing atin after years abroad. Pero bakit bastos lang pala ang makukuha namin kapalit ng kaunting hanap namin na cmfort?
Uulitin ko, hindi pinapalagay ang bagahe aa taas. Bagkus, humihingi ng tulong na mapagaaan ang pagbuhat nag bagahe.
sana ma address ng admin ang mga may uagling mayayabang at bastos na mga FA.
Eh bakit di ikaw magbuhat? That is not their job. But nonetheless i have never had this problem. I have seen attendants help passengers any way they can. Baka ikaw may problems. Kaya nga hand carry. Yung kayang bitbitin lang within airline rules.
Simple lang yan. Kung di mo kaya ilagay sa overhead locker, icheck in mo. Dadala dala ka di mo naman kaya ilagay mag-isa. Yung iba kasi nagtitipid ayaw magbayad ng excess baggage kaya hayun ang bibigat ng hand carry.
Simple lang naman ang requirement. Yung hand carry luggage po yung dapat kayang i-carry ng hands ninyo. Kung sobrang bigat at di niyo ma-carry, check-in luggage na yon.
e bakit hindi ikaw kaya ang tumuling sa nanay mo te bakit mo kelngan iasa sa fa? they help when needed. sa elderly pregnant may ksmang baby and pwd. pero kung hndi ka naman kabilang dyan e don't expect them na buhatin oara sau ang bag mo. tama si 2:49 kung di mo kaya iakyat it means u have more than what u should bring. icheck in mo.
and height is a requirement not because para buhatin ang bag mo. yun ay para maabot nila ang emergency equipments na normally asa overhead bins din. at para maisara ang overhead bins din.. see ang mentality mo kasi is sila tlga mag bubuhat ng bags mo kaya pti sa height requirement yun ang interpretation mo.
nagdala ka hand carry luggage di mo naman kaya ipasok sa overhead bin. totoo naman e. Bag mo responsibility mo. hindi ako katangkaran pero pag nilalagay ko yung bag umaapak na lang ako sa upuan. Napakababaw ko naman kung magrereklamo pa ako dahil di ako tinulungan na maglagay. Baka may mali din sa pagdemand. May iba din kasi sa atin tingin sa flight attendant katulong. Tsk. Tsk.
I have never had any problem asking FAs for help. Siguro kung maka-utos kayo sobra. At siguro halatang excess na yang hand carry niyo. Anybody who needs special help has to inform the airline when purchasing the tickets so they can make arrangements for special assistance. OTHERWISE, bag niyo, bitbitin niyo. At nakakaloka yang assumption mo na they require a long reach to put bag in the bin. What? Are you for real? At yung naiinis kasi confident maglakad and FA, eh ano gusto mo? Nakayuko na parang nahihiya? I would much prefer FAs with confidence than insecure losers with giant chips on their shoulders.
For those people who thinks that because airline put a height requirement so that flight attendant can put the paseenger's bag in the overhead bin is an idiot and ignorant. FA's are there not to put your handcarry bag but to reach emergency equipment and close the overhead bins. Handcarry is handcarry. Your bag your responsibility. Kung dimo mabuhat sa sarili mo, why expect other people to do it for you?
kada comments thread may nababasa talaga ako about clueless people. hnd alam ano ang real tasks ng FA. nakakaawa naman. nagsasalita pa ng derogatory statements. taga buhat ng bag, paganda at pagwapo lang, tagaserve lang ng tea at kape. ganyan bah kau ka mangmang?! Google din pag may time po. break muna sa chismisan.
this is hoax. my god look at the hand hindi credible na pang 10yr old. asan ang flight details? mayayanig kaya ang PAL nito? o babalik sa cebupac ang attention dahil mukhang sila may pakana bilang bagsak sila ngayon
Hindi lang naman sa airplane bawal magbigay ng boiling water sa kid, kahit nasa ground bawal din hehe. Naaawa ko sa bata pero natawa ko sa pagbasa ng post mo teh. Choice of words mo kasi eh
Poor girl...PAL attendants are rude and no patience. Some of them have attiude, I'm talking about their international flights. But if you are dress nicely and english speaking, they give you high priority. Shame PAL
Napansin mo rin pala anon 3:01. pinoy na pinoy talaga ang attitutde nila na nangangamohan at matapobre at talaga namang bow na bow pag mayayaman. ang tingin sa lahat ng pasaherong pinoy na di sosyal ang dating ay DH.
Lagi akong mukhang basahan kapag nag fafly, trans Pacific at hindi naman ako nagkaron ng issue sa PAL at ang lagi pa kong madaming dala, like ang carry on luggage ko ay 29 lbs and 15 ounces at ang "purse" ko na kasya ang bata ay at least 15 lbs. Ewan ko, some people lang siguro have extreme sense of entitlement kaya feeling nila nasnub sila kahit hindi naman. I must say though na pinaka favorite ko ang Japan Airlines dahil pinaka sarap ang pagkain at magaganda at grabeng magalang ang mga FA.
i agree. ang ayoko sa pal flight attendants sa international flight nagchichismisan habang nasa work tungkol sa ibang workmate na hindi nila kasundo. nakakastress. minsan narinig ko din silang nagusap at pinagtawanan yung isang foreigner na passenger na may smell.
Sorry pero walang BOILING water sa eroplano. I can empathize with the victim but please just narrate the truth without exaggeration to generate sympathy.
agree! meron pa shang sinasabi na buti na lang wala shang baril. assuming meron at allowed tayong mag dala ng baril, ano yun, PAPATAY ka ng tao kapag nasunog yung balat ng pamangkin mo... hahahahaha! #WOW HA!
hahahaha! ok ka ring mag isip anon 2:32. basta may class, ok sa yo. you make me laugh! sige, paki kuha mo nga ako ng tea at pag katapos alisin mo yang pag mumukha mo sa harap ko! tse!
- babaeng walang class pero kayang utusan ang may class
Hoy! ANON 10:05. Ikaw ang bastos! Grabe ka manliit ng tao. Lahat naman ng trabaho basta marangal at nagsisikap eh wala kang karapatan na maliitin. Eh ano ngayon kung FA? Eh ano ngayon kung waiter/waitress. Wag mong nilalahat ang mga FA. Porke may bad experience ka sa isa eh ilalahat mo na.
natapunan na ako ng mantika na kakapatay lang ng kalan at hindi ganyan kagrabe ung lapnos, although frist degree burn na daw sya sabi ng doctor, wala nmang dugo, ung pinsan ko din natapunan ng mainit na tubig nung baby pa sya pero hindi rin ganyan, siguro ginalaw or hinawakan ng bata kaya nagka ganyan..pro tama din to hear the other side of story. Kawawa yung bata, sobrang hirap nyan at hapdi.
Agree! Parang isang kalderong kumukulong tubig ata ang kelangan para maging ganyan ang kalabasan. Red, may blood and pus pa. Tsaka kung hindi arm yan, pano napunta jan ang tubig? Btw, hindi ako taga-PAL. Something's just not adding up sa story..
Kahit ata kaldero hindi pa rin. Nabuhusan na ako before nung naglaga ako ng okra. Bumuhos talaga sa kamay ko yung tubig. Aside sa pamumula, hapdi tska parang nagtutubig na something wala naman akong nakitang dugo. Yung itsura sa pic parang napaso na sa tambutso ng motor eh
Kung totoo man to kawawa naman nung bata kung ganun. Pero obviously its not the kid's arm in the pic, its a leg of an adult i think. At may pagkukulang din nung parents kasi imagine 10 years old palang so sila dapat ang nag aabot sa bata. Sana lang gumalinb agad yung bata.
Ang tagal kong tinitingnan yung pic. Pano naging ganyan? Yung red mark na pahaba at yung lapnos, pero bakit may dugo? Sana ilagay ni madam yung flight details, be more specific kasi serious case naman sya.
I got burned myself from na kumukulong tubig, never naman naging ganyan kalala. Baka siguro kinamot or nagalaw ng bata nung natapanunan kaya lumala ng ganyan? May infection na and all. I am not sure. Nevertheless, nakakaawa naman yung bata kasi super sakit niyan.
I used to fly and I obviously know how scalds look like even burnt skin. Why would the FA give a boiling water to a 10 yr old pax? The pax would be definitely given first aid by the FAs once the accident was committed and they will make a report about it. That is how we were trained. With the look and severity of this wound, I doubt if it was caused by just boiling water. There is something missing here. The story is not complete.
First of all, there is no boiling water in the aircraft. Sige sabihin natin hot water ung binigay. Did the incident happen habang binibigay ni FA ung water? Or did it happen in the possession of the family already? Common sense na lang kanino ang responsibility nyan sa both scenarios na yan. Besides, i always burn myself in the galley either with ovens or hot water directly from the spout. Burns dont look like that. And yes i have sensitive skin.
Looks like the family is just looking for somebody to blame and something to get out of the airline. Sheesh!
parang likod ng binti nman ung napaso hndi arm. and parang 2 days old n ung sugat nya n lumalim. at ang itsura eh hindi nman boiling water ung nakapaso.
pagkakita ko ng pic nagisip ako kung scalding hot water nga cause nyan coz when my brother was 1 1/2 y/o nabuhusan siya ng kakukulong tubig as in galing sa takure at nag-blisters ng bongga. so isipin natin ang skin condition ng one year old at 10 yrs old, parang iba ang cause ng burn na yan.
If there is another passenger who can attest to this maniniwala pa ako. This pic is only showing the leg?! you cant even tell what part of the body that is and if its really from a 10 yr old
for me its hard to believe na scalding hot yung maibibigay sa bata... for sure kung kumukulo yun natural naka mittens yung magbibigay! lol and for the love of God that doesn't even looked like it was done alone by a hot water! something is missing here... its just not that too real for me na gawa yan ng hot water...
Thats not first degree burn, 2nd degree burn yan. Mukhang nag pop na yung blister (ouch). The attendant should have let it cool down a little bit of she knows its boiling water, esp if to be given to a kid. Aside from the wound itself, they will to deal with a big scar afterwards. File a formal complaint. Burns are always considered injury, whatever degree it is. Common sense and tactfulness were clearly not present with the attendant.
The nanny ask the cabin crew warm water. And that what was given by the cabin crew to the nanny. Then the nanny "accidentally" spilled the water to the kid. But from the looks of it. It WAs burned with more than just boiling water even. The aircraft galley has hot water and not boiling ones. Cabin crew are license professional who are safety qualified. They have taken away the fact that the act of mishap was done by the kid's nanny and not through the negligence of the cabin crew. This is a rip off and since they can't sue the company since legally it has no merits. They are trying to get sympathy from the ever judging public. Who seems to jump to conclusions right away without knowing the whole facts.
since we work in the galley (aircrafts kitchen) all the time and do all the preparation we are often exposed to the so called hot water and ilang beses na ako natapunan sa kamay sa paa and never nngyari sakin to.. Looks like the ccomplainant is from LA hmmm... Pax profile of LA is really like that mayat maya naghahanap ng madedemanda at mairereklamo... Not all but madalas..
I will judge the mom kasibunderage ang anak. To allow a hot water to come near a child without noticing it is negligence on the part of the mum. Plain and simple. Where would she be at the time of the incident. Hinayaan LNG ang anak humingi Ng hot water ganun?
baka microwaved distilled water yan kaya nag-superheat at ganyan ang effect.
kung fire-heated, nasa 100 degrees celsius lang or whatever is appropriate for the pressure in the area. pero kung distilled water na microwave heated, malaki problema nila.
Kawawa nga naman ung bata pero it's weird lang coz PAL only serves warm water. Tas bakit may pus? As in ang laki pa talaga. Vesibles/blisters are more likely kapag scald or water burn lang...
At daming nurse at doctor dito. Yung pic na pinakita hindi yan fresh na burn. As in immediately after the incident happened. That's why i love to read fp kasi lahat ng commenters are expert sa lahat ng bagay. Next time wag na dito sa fp i share mga ideas nyo. Mag politiko na kayo para gaganda buhay natin mga filipino.
Define and differentiate boiling, hot and warm..boiling is kumukulo yung may bubbles bubbles pa at mausok how can you pass or give the boiling water to someone unless kasama yung stove or electric kettle..meron ba nun sa plane?think again..let's say scalding hot for the sake of argument it wont look like that if it was given attention at d 1st sign of burning..ano bang nangyayari sa meet kapag napapakuluan?and its true boiling water cant give you 3rd degree burn..at most is 2nd degree lalo na kapag mabilisan lang na natapon and malamig sa loob ng plane kung baga if u wiped it as soon as natapon baka nga magpula yun or sige ..kawawa yung "kid" ang sakit kung ganyan ..wala naman tayo dun nung nangyari so cant judge..but looking at the pic may kulang sa kwento kung bakit nagkaganyan naman kalala ang paso nung bata..
I'm the good friend of the mom of the 10 year old girl being referred to in this article. What was written by the auntie is true. Some people may doubt the authenticity and think it's a scam perpetrated by somebody desperate for money but it is not. I suppose the impassioned letter left so many details out in an attempt to protect the privacy of the child, but let me provide some of the details to shed light on the matter and for people who don't know any better to stop making scathing and malicious comments. Flight date: Feb. 22, 2015 Flight number: PR 731 Bangkok to Manila Flight attendant name involved: Natalie The part that was burnt by the hot water was the leg and thigh of the kid. The fact that she is hairy should not make people doubt her story. The picture taken was during the 2nd day from when the incident happened that's why the wound looks red. My friend more than makes a decent living. She is doing this not to milk PAL but to shed light on what happened and to make the company acknowledge their lapses. To all those who say that planes don't carry hot water, I don't know. Don't they have a coffee maker that can boil water similar to that of a kettle? I have pictures of the incident from the plane if FP needs it to prove that it was the hot water that caused those burns. To everyone making unnecessary and stupid comments, let me just say that the smallest incidence of delays and changes in our flights make us swear at airlines. What would an incident that happened to my friend's kid make you feel, should it happen to your loved one? It may not be a battle that you are fighting now but if everyone makes the airline unaccountable for the incident, don't complain if this happens to you.
ate sinasabi nila boiling water ate hindi hot water. May hot water pero walang boiling water na iseserve kse hindi naman magboboil dahil malamig sa eroplano. dami nga reklamo na malamig na kape sa eroplano eh. wala ring coffee maker sa eroplano. Coffeemachine meron usually sa business class and first class just to offer pax cappuccino, latte and etc. susyaling drinks.
It looks like the burnt part is the shin or the front part of the lower leg. Therefore i seriously doubt the truthfulness of this story. Firstly, paano matatapunan ang lower leg in such a manner while inside an aircraft? If one is sitting down, ang pwede mapaso ay ang arms, hands or thighs. Medyo Imposible ang legs. Secondly, water trickles and runs down. Considering that this is the leg, how was the water concentrated on that part. Ano yun, kumapit? Thirdly, if talagang nangyari to, why did they not call the attention of the attendants on board? Bakit hindi humingi ng medical assistance or first aid? Logic dictates that a burn of such kind would have caused a reaction from the child or the traveling companions or anybody near the child. I have been through enough air travels to know that other passengers will not hesitate to get involved especially if there is such an injury. There are several attendants on board, surely they would have applied first aid to prevent further damage on the skin. Does this complainant mean to say that the kid got burned and no one from the several attendants or the other passengers gave or requested for aid? Human experience dictates that the way the story goes is not believable. For these and other reasons I am too tired to type down, I agree with a commenter above, I am calling bullsh*t on this story. Someone is lying or grossly exaggerating.
1050 PM I am also too tired to type down and counter your argument point by point. Someone is lying and it is most definitely not the aggrieved party. There are too many things that seem improbable that happen and probable that do not happen in life. What happened to the kid is not BS. They say, evil prevails when good men do nothing. In this case, evil prevails when people who don't know the real story, talk and judge and say things they know nothing of.
All i can say is that people have the right to say what they please.... but do not go down below the belt by saying this is a hoax or that there is no truth to this matter... you do not know the story and you do not know the person who posted this in the first place. But, the truth will come out soon... as am sure they will do something about it... there is no point in responding to the negative posters...
I too am a friend of the Aunt who posted the story so please believe me when I say that she doesn't need any money but was only trying to bring attention to the situation. It's a sad day when you can hide behind a keyboard and say such horrible things about a child simple because you think that no one else will know who you are . Well anonymous you better pray that nothing horrible ever happens to you and your family because trust and believe that another anonymous jerk will be typing all kinds of horrible things because like you their safe behind a keyboard. Well anonymous karma is everything oh and I'm not a cyber bully hiding behind a keyboard like yourself name is Mevelyn Google me.
O pati ikaw nakikipag-away, lumalabas ang pagka bayolente niyong mag-kaibigan. Ikaw, halos isumpa mo mga taong nagkokomento dito sa GOSSIP SITE na to. Yung kaibigan mo naman na letter sender gusto mamaril. Wow! Feeling superior lang, ganern???? Sa pulis kayo mag reklamo di dito sa FP.
Your source of the story is your friend. Wala ka din dun teh when it happened. Your friend put this story out in public. Invited the public in on the issue, so why complain if people have different opinions? Your friend decided what details to put out and obviously left out some, that's her choice. So why be surprised if people react differently? Besides, I have not read of anyone personally attacking your friend. Yung story, oo. But what did you expect? Of course the story will be interpreted, dissected and assessed by people in varying manners. Why did you have to involve and call out the other commenter and bring his/her family into the equation? You just had to go there, didn't you? Calling people cyber bullies when you appear to be no different. And you reacting like this na mukhang naghahamon. Nag-uutos pa na igoogle ka.Talaga lang ha? Tapos if people start seeking you out and making comments about you in ways you can't handle, sasabihin mo na naman cyber bullies.
The author of the March 1, 2015 at 10:50 PM post raises good points. I, too, have the same questions. Instead na maghamon kayo diyan ng kaibigan mo, i-clarify niyo at sagutin niyo ng maayos. Ilalabas niya tong issue na to in public tapos magagalit kayo dahil merong mga red flags na nakikita ang ibang mga tao sa kwento? Anobanaman. What did you expect, everyone will accept the story at face value?
That's an awful burn. I hope that before posting this on social media, the kid has been brought to the hospital for medical attention. As for those belittling the crew, shame on you. You may call them glorified waiter/waitresses/servers etc, but if you're on their flight, you're lives are in their hands. They are trained to administer first aid and help, in extreme cases (like emergencies). Which brings me back to the case in point. Wasn't first aid administered to kid? Has this been brought to the attention of PAL before posting this online?
Never pa akong naka kita ng cabin crew giving a kid a cup of hot water. Usually, doon sa nakakatandang family member ibibigay yung hot water at yung family member ang mag papainom sa kid. Kapag nga may turbulance, lahat ng beverage service kahit na juice lang ititigil.
Don't they have microwaves in airplanes? (I'm not sure lang) if they do... yes that burn is possible with water.. Happened to me, very hot almost boiling water , straight out of a from microwave spilled on my leg... gave me the same looking gross burn.
Accidents happen to anyone. You can't measure how grave it is until you experience it or witness it on your own. Stop the non sense comments . Sana hindi mangyari sa inyo then you will know the real story.
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ReplyDeleteSo this story is basically hearsay. Hmm. Still flying with PAL though.
DeleteSus imposible naman na ganyan itsura kagad parang matagal na yan at naghanap lang ng masisisi
Deletehearsay? eh ayan na nga ang picture 3:48 PM. siguro ikaw yung FA kaya wala kang choice but to fly PAL. lol
DeleteWho's the parents of that kid? Binantayan naman sana nila yan habang naghalo ng milo sa mainit na tubig.jusko
Delete1. How long ago was the incident?
Delete2. Is that the photograph taken at the time of the incident?
3. What kind of first aid remedy did the flight crew do to address the incident?
4. Did the family bring the child to the hospital for medical treatment immediately after the flight? If so, how soon after the flight? Which hospital? Where is the medical report? How much did it cost?
Hindi puwede yung puro bintang lang, set aside your emotions, and provide concrete evidence when you level an accusation against another party. And please go through the proper channels hindi yung puro social media exposé to generate a hate campaign against a business. May pasaring pa na magiging criminal kung may hand gun. Why? If it is true that PAL did not "recognize" the parents, then escalate the matter to the corporate offices and bring your evidence, such as: medical report, incurred medical expenses, photos, names of FA, flight details. I'm not affiliated with any airline, but at some point, I am a passenger, too, and that's what I would do to help a family member get the proper attention and care for their grievance.
Naku PAL, you should address this issue, pag nagkataon, d lang sa delayed flights kayo sisikat. Sa nakikita ko sa picture, hindi ito maayos ng free ticket lang.
DeleteTama si anon 7:33.
Deletecorrect..i am also an airline crew..who in her right mind would give boiling water to a 10 yr old kid? And where were the companions of this kid? And we cant boil water inflight..Theres hot water from the brewer but not boiled.. There are two sides to this story..
DeleteThe use of Jesus Christ inappropiately is offensive.
Deleteactually parang nabasa ko na 'to na, pero parang Cebu Pacific naman, not sure though. be that as it may, nung 14 yo pa lang ako, nabuhusan ko sarili ko ng kumukulong tubig, nagtitimpla ng kape, nabasag yung tasa sa sobrang init, tumapon sa tyan ko, ayun lapnos, but hindi ganyan ichura, parang nabalatan sya. walang blisters na ganyan. Fave ko hot chocolate ng CebuPac kaya lagi ako bumibili nun sa kanila, yung tubig mainit talaga to the point that you have to wait para mainom, but not boiling hot. Kung mapapaso ako, siguro second degree at worst.
Deletefirst of all, where are the parents of the kid? bakit hinayaan lang sya? we flew cebupac and we asked for warm water to make milk for our baby. the FA warned us that they don't have warm water, hot water lang talaga. so we put room temp water sa milk bottle then asked the FA to add the hot water in it. so pagdating sa amin hindi scalding hot yung tubig.
Deleteboth parties need to take responsibility for this incident.
Aruy jusko
ReplyDeleteobviously BOILING WATER nga yun binigay! no wonder hindi nahawakan ng bata yun container. Sue them for sure panalo kayo! kainis yun FA ngpapalusot pa!
ReplyDeleteNow i want to hear the side of PAL.. This is intense.
ReplyDeleteBakit super lapnos? Even if it isnt a "warm Water" i dont think it will cause this much. Even if it is indeed boiled water, it will ease out a bit as the stewardess will need to walk thru their chair. Did it come straight from the thermos? Even so, it wont cause that much burn. Its as if a hot iron burned her skin. Poor kid.
ReplyDeleteIm with you here... even boiling water will not do this much hard... i had a relative who was accidentally poured with water boiling from the stove, and it did not even produce blood like this pick seems to show... my sympathies to the kid but truth must come out...
DeleteI have been a burn victim myself. And that is not from boiling water. It looks like from hot oil.
DeleteBoiling water will make blisters and will remove the topmost layer of the skin and the dermis will be visible.
How did the water spill on her leg? Was she sitting with her legs up?
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DeleteAgree. 10 or so years ago, I was cooking pancit canton and my sister was helping me. I swear it was an accident but I poured boiling water on my sister's hand instead of the drainer. Namula lang ng bongga yung skin nya at syempre niyare ako ng nanay ko dahil mega hiyaw sya pero hindi ganyan.
DeleteWater boils at a higher temperature because of the altitude . Believe me my Mom had a similar accident with PAL . Same looking burn on her inner thigh. And it went through her dress. We went straight home after the incident but went to their clinic the following day because it looked really bad . They referred us to Cardinal hospital and gave free meds. Overall customer service was satisfactory so we didn't make a big issue out of it.
DeleteAnonymous March 1, 2015 at 5:52 PM
DeleteThey dont boil water on the aircraft. Whatever hot water they have is in a pot. Hot yes, boiling hot, no.
Proper tea is made with water that has been heated to 100c — the temperature at which it boils on the ground. Unfortunately, in the reduced-pressure environment of an aircraft cabin, the boiling point of water is lowered to around 90c, which means that the brewing process is unsatisfactory. For the same reason, you cannot have a decent cuppa high in the mountains.
DeleteRead more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1374726/In-flight-plane-facts-From-ears-pop-tea-tastes-funny.html
Anon 4:56 sige ituloy mo pa kwento mo makikinig kame. O tapos? Haha
Delete#akona
True. medyo madaming inconsistencies. Parang ang oa naman ng burn kung boiling water. usually medjj mamumula lang, mahapdi, tska parang magtutubig na ewan pag nabuhusan ka. At boiling water sa plane??? You couldn't even ask for a decent cup of coffee pag inflight. Pasalamat ka na kung hot kasi madalas lukewarm ang maibibigay sayo.
DeleteShocks! Grabe! Malaking danyos ang dapat bayaran ng PAL dyan lifetime free tickets all over the world... Hahahahaha
ReplyDeletehaha! all the world talaga teh?!
DeleteHehe afford naman ng PAL yung ganyan. Yung kakilala namin dating nagtatrabaho sa PAL. Lifetime free sila kahit saan, basta dun lang sila sasakay sa di nabentang seat.
DeleteHehe afford naman ng PAL yung ganyan. Yung kakilala namin dating nagtatrabaho sa PAL. Lifetime free sila kahit saan, basta dun lang sila sasakay sa di nabentang seat.
DeleteOh no!
ReplyDeleteOmg! Poor kid.. PAL should be liable!
ReplyDeletePoor kid....but still, we need to here the flight attendant's side...remember there is always two sides of the story. We better listen then we can judge.
ReplyDeleteSorry but I'm calling bullsh*t on this. If you ask for drinking water, it will be placed in a transparent plastic cup. If it was boiling water, di sana nagmelt yung cup. Plus they don't have boiling water on flight. Even the coffee ain't that hot.
ReplyDeleteAgree sa tagal ng pag biyahe ko never pa akong naka tikim ng hot coffe/tea sa plane..warm lahat
DeleteStyro-cups ginagamit kapag mainit na water or coffee ang paglalagyan hndi plastic cup. #Justsaying
DeleteNever nagserve ang airline ng boiling water any airline...and kng nabuhusan ka antimano punas agad un ang una reaction sa pic na yan parang galing sa perculator ang tubig at di pinunasan. Just saying
DeleteAirlines do serve very hot water, fyi.
DeleteAnonymous March 1, 2015 at 2:47 PM
DeleteHey there. I get what you mean, but I was just pointing out that if the kid had asked for warm water, likely that the attendant would have placed it in a transparent plastic cup. So even if she mistakenly placed hot water, it would have melted the cup. I have asked for warm water before, which is actually more like normal temp water which they pour from a distilled water bottle. It is placed in a plastic cup. When i ask for coffee, i get that in a styro, but even that is not even particularly hot.
Oh my...I am so sorry for your niece...
ReplyDeletePERO BAKIT PARANG HINDI PANG-10 YEAR OLD ANG ARMS NYA?
I noticed too
DeleteAgree much, it's so hairy for a 10-yo girl. and doesn't look like an arm though. Parang leg eh. Look at the dark knees.
Delete1:22. Thats what i initially though! Bakit parang hindi 10 yr old yong arm? Uh oh
DeleteYan din observation ko na parang di pang 10yr old arm ang nasa pic. Bukod sa parang malaking braso ay may hair na ang arms ng nasa pic.
DeleteI thought so too.
Deletesame thoughts here haha. parang hindi naman pang bata yung arm ba yun or leg.
DeleteWala naman sinabe na sa arm natapunan ng boiling water. Mukha naman siyang binti ng 10 yr old. yung right part ng pic yung knee.
DeleteI agree - it looks like a leg; thick body hair is not consistent with that of a 10-year old.
DeleteIt's a hot water, way more than what a human skin can tolerate. They need to compensate and pay the child's expenses. No money can amount to the pain that the child could have felt in that moment.
ReplyDeleteIt is not hot water. Hot water doesnt curdle like that. Hot water drips. That is 3rd degree burn. Hot water only does 2nd degree burns.
DeleteAs an ex FA myself, the story and picture is ridiculous. We don't have boiling water inside the aircraft. We only have hot water we use for our tea and coffee services. Hot water will not give you severe wounds when you get burned. We also give first aid automatically when needed, and we make a report about the incident. The complainant is not telling the truth.
Deleteas an aside, since dati ka palang DA, anon 5:48, i noticed marami sa FA ng Philippine Airlines nag fe-feeling maganda. for example, para silang rumarampa kapag naglalakad at feel na feel nila ang pagiging FA nila as in GGSS talaga. ganito rin ang case ng mga male FAs. nakakatawa lang minsan kasi pag dating naman sa loob ng eroplano, eh, hello, serve-serve sila ng tea at kape! gosh! just sayin! at may biscuit pang ibinibigay. nacaca loca!
DeleteAnon 11:21.... Wuts ur problem? Eh ganun tlaga dapat... Alangan nmn maawa sila sa sarili nila. Confidence tawag dyan. number 1 requirement...
DeleteSome Pinoys naman kasi kapag nagfa-fly, feeling nila amo sila ng mga FA.
DeleteThe FAs are not your servants, they have a job to do, serving you food & beverage is only part of it. Carrying your luggage and cleaning up after your mess and your child's and other BS you have is not part of their job. Lumalabas ang pagka ignorante ng iba dito. #imtalkingtoyou1121
anon 2:29 true. Masyadong mayabang si ate. kung makataas sa sarili over. Pero tanungin muna natin siya kung talagang nakasakay na siya sa eroplano. Malay mo naman may pinaghuhugutan ang pagiging ignorante niya
Deletewait lang, in fairness naman sa mga FA ng PAL, may karapatan naman silang mag maganda. a
DeleteIt's so obvious na si 11:21 e d sanay o bka first time lang makasakay ng airplane. At first time makakita ng FA.. boo you!
Delete11:21 wala kang alam the! pinagsasabi mo?! basa ka nga ng libro!
DeleteFelt so bad for the kid! Anung pumasok sa ulo ng FA para bgyan ng kumukulong tubig ang bata! Bopleks lng!
ReplyDeleteSome attendants are really unhelpful at no patience.
DeleteSome attendants are really unhelpful at no patience.
DeleteThere is no boiling water inside any aircraft. This story is full of holes.
Deleteagree, anon 3:02. some of them are rude even. many times sumasakay ako sa PAL for official business at na notice ko yun. there was a time na makulit yung bata sa likod ko sa i transferred sa ibang seat na vacant naman talaga. aba, lumapit sa akin yung isang make FA at tinanong ako ba parang nagtataray kung bakit daw ako lumipat. ok lang magtanong pero yung pagtatanong nya, parang nagalit pa sa akin. sinabi ko na lang na nahihilo ako dahil inuuga nung bata yung likuran ng upuan ko kaya wala na syang nasabi pa.
DeleteAnonymousMarch 1, 2015 at 11:24 PM
DeleteAccording to rules (as sanctioned by law) passengers cant transfer without permission. You have to notify the FA if you want to transfer because one way of determining the identity of the passengers is thru the seating arrangement as indicated upon checking in.
Sue them. May ganyang case dito sa US same scalding hot coffee given by McDonalds. Nanalo victim.
ReplyDeleteThat case was a lot of bull. Even legal experts say it should have been thrown out at first instance. Guess the judge wanted to be controversial. No other case of the same kind has ever gone far ever since. Case of similar nature no longer reach trial because they are an anomaly.
Deleteyah, sa US yan, dito sa Pilipinas, good luck kung mananalo ka. binabayaran ang mga legal counsel ngayon so i am sure walang mangyayari sa complaint mo.
DeleteKalokohan naman ang case na yan vs Mcdonalds. umorder ka ng kape obviously its going to be hot. Unless iced coffee
DeleteI suggest you do more research and check the Mcdonald's victim after the incident. Nakakaawa yung matanda. Ridiculous as it seems pero because of that case nakita na may mga establishments na di nasunod sa tamang standard ng temperature ng hot water.
DeleteI have more than just researched that particular case. I studied it. Classroom discussions, case analysis etc.
DeleteAirplanes only have hot water, not boiling water. The water is from a "faucet-like" machine in the galley/kitchen and can only sustain first degree burns. I have accidentaly hurt myself numerous times with hot water on the plane, and the photo above is definitely not from hot water in the aircraft.
ReplyDelete-international flight attendant
Look into it closely. First degree burns. Got blisters.
DeleteKuda ka ng kuda. Kung taga PAL ka ayusin ninyo service ninyo at tanggalin mga yabangers na asta ninyo.
Something fishy?
DeleteMiss saan galing ang water then if not from the aircraft? Di ba bawal ang tubig or any liquid pagsakay ng plane? Hmmm, ikaw siguro ang isang attendant ng PAL or kaya naman kapamilya mo yung attendant na ito. Hello...gising gising
DeleteTama si flight attendant, sorry. Wala silang device to make the water boil. Laging nasa pot yung hot water nila. The kid doesnt deserve to be burned but this is fishy. And her arms look like she was burned by boiling coffee, not boiling water.
DeleteHonestly, unang pinuntahan eh social media vs hospital?
so ano pla un? kagat ng lamok? please bear in mind that the victim is a child. mas sensitive naman siguro skin nun kesa sau noh.
DeleteMadami naman siguradong witness sa incident na ito, sana walang suhulang mangyari. Kung halimbawang mag-isa nag fly laloo si kid, hindi naman siguro sya pababayaan ng mga katabi nya at malamang may magagalit on her behalf. Sorry, this is is fishy talaga. Mas feel ko namang sumakay ng pal kaysa American airlines (and I mean Delta and others since AA doesn't fly to MNL) at at ang dami ko ng nakasabay na unsupervised minors at lagi silang chinecheck ng mga attendants.
DeleteI agree with the above comment, PAL flights, especially international, have wayyy better service than other airlines. Better food, friendlier attendants and nicer seats. Ang saya nga ng mga Pinoy sa America that PAL is back offering US flights.
Deleteagree anon 2:41 on the mayabang na asta ng mga PAL attendant. akala nyo kung sino silang umasta eh super dali nga ng trabaho nyo! gosh! not because maganda o guwapo kayo eh mag fe feeling kayo na superior kayo noh! hello, no brainer ang trabaho nyo! sus mio!
DeleteAnon 11:27. Pwede ka naman sumangayon nang hindi ng iinsulto. Hindi madali ang pagiging FA madaming pinagdadaanan ang mga yan bago maisabak sa tunay na trabaho. Kung tingin mo na puro sila paganda at papogi lang then ikaw pala ang walang utak. Saludo ako sa ginagawa nila. At least sila nagtatrabaho ng marangal.
Delete2:41 how ignorant of you. bka mapahiya ka pag nakita mo ang manuals na sinasaulo at inaaral ng mga cabin crew before sila ma release to fly. fyi, licensed po ang cabin crew meaning hndi porket maganda o gwapo ka e papasa ka. do ur research no.
DeleteMayayabang talaga FA ng PAL. Akalain mo ba na ayaw patulong sana na iakyat yun luggage overhead? Ang rason ay di naman daw sila mga utusan at buong araw daw dala na ng passenger yun luggage na yun. The nerve. Sila ang mga FA na di kagandahan itabi mo pa sa FA ng SIA at Cathay. Sobrang yabang.
ReplyDeletehindi naman kasi tlga nila trabaho na buhatin ang bags mo. it's an international rule. it can cause injury to them lalo kung lahat e tutulungan nila. and mind you dito lang sa pilipinas inirereklamo na hindi nag bububat ng bags ang cabin crew! at totoo naman simole rule YOUR BAG YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. dinala mo yan e buhatin mo.
Deletesusku mio the nerve talaga. never akong nakarinig ng ganyan sa kahit na anong airline. kung magkaroon ng survey makikita natin na sa PAL lang may attitude na ganyan. Sana FP mag-initiate ka ng ganitong survey. for sure mga pinoy lang ang kayang ganyanin ng mga FA na kapwa pinoy din. kaya tau umaasenso sa pagiging mas mairap pa dahil wala tayong malasakit sa anything na pinoy tao man o bansa.
DeleteNaku naman hinay hinay din kayo. May mga pinoys din naman kse na kung magutos akala mo sila nagpapasweldo sa mya FAs. Wala naman akong experience sa flight ko sa PAL. They were kind and helpful to me. Mind your please and thank yous. Pag magpapatulong kang maglagay ng gamit mo sa overhead bin makiusap ka din at umeffort ka din tumulong. Yung iba kse wow nakatayo lang at inaasahan yung FA lahat ang gagawa.
Delete3.43 eveytime na may ads for FA sila kelangan ang reach ang candidate ay mahaba talaga. What for kung hindi ka matulungan na maitaas yun bagahe ang reach na yun? Saka hindi lahat nag papatulong. Saka tulong yun at hindi ipapabuhat sayo buong buo. Sana andun kang nangyari sa nanay ko. Nagtimpi na lang ako kasi ayaw ko makipag sagutan sa alam kong bastos at pera lang talaga at di serbisyo ang hanap.
DeleteSana hindi ka FA kasi kung FA ka ng PAL, pakilagay po sa isip ninyo na gusto namin sumakay sa sariling flag carrier, kung saan namin naiisip na mas magagalang ang pinoy FA, mas masarap kumaon ng sailing atin after years abroad. Pero bakit bastos lang pala ang makukuha namin kapalit ng kaunting hanap namin na cmfort?
Uulitin ko, hindi pinapalagay ang bagahe aa taas. Bagkus, humihingi ng tulong na mapagaaan ang pagbuhat nag bagahe.
sana ma address ng admin ang mga may uagling mayayabang at bastos na mga FA.
#feelingerokayo
Eh bakit di ikaw magbuhat? That is not their job. But nonetheless i have never had this problem. I have seen attendants help passengers any way they can. Baka ikaw may problems. Kaya nga hand carry. Yung kayang bitbitin lang within airline rules.
DeleteSimple lang yan. Kung di mo kaya ilagay sa overhead locker, icheck in mo. Dadala dala ka di mo naman kaya ilagay mag-isa. Yung iba kasi nagtitipid ayaw magbayad ng excess baggage kaya hayun ang bibigat ng hand carry.
DeleteSimple lang naman ang requirement. Yung hand carry luggage po yung dapat kayang i-carry ng hands ninyo. Kung sobrang bigat at di niyo ma-carry, check-in luggage na yon.
Deletee bakit hindi ikaw kaya ang tumuling sa nanay mo te bakit mo kelngan iasa sa fa? they help when needed. sa elderly pregnant may ksmang baby and pwd. pero kung hndi ka naman kabilang dyan e don't expect them na buhatin oara sau ang bag mo. tama si 2:49 kung di mo kaya iakyat it means u have more than what u should bring. icheck in mo.
Deleteand height is a requirement not because para buhatin ang bag mo. yun ay para maabot nila ang emergency equipments na normally asa overhead bins din. at para maisara ang overhead bins din.. see ang mentality mo kasi is sila tlga mag bubuhat ng bags mo kaya pti sa height requirement yun ang interpretation mo.
Deletenagdala ka hand carry luggage di mo naman kaya ipasok sa overhead bin. totoo naman e. Bag mo responsibility mo. hindi ako katangkaran pero pag nilalagay ko yung bag umaapak na lang ako sa upuan. Napakababaw ko naman kung magrereklamo pa ako dahil di ako tinulungan na maglagay. Baka may mali din sa pagdemand. May iba din kasi sa atin tingin sa flight attendant katulong. Tsk. Tsk.
DeleteI have never had any problem asking FAs for help. Siguro kung maka-utos kayo sobra. At siguro halatang excess na yang hand carry niyo. Anybody who needs special help has to inform the airline when purchasing the tickets so they can make arrangements for special assistance. OTHERWISE, bag niyo, bitbitin niyo. At nakakaloka yang assumption mo na they require a long reach to put bag in the bin. What? Are you for real? At yung naiinis kasi confident maglakad and FA, eh ano gusto mo? Nakayuko na parang nahihiya? I would much prefer FAs with confidence than insecure losers with giant chips on their shoulders.
Deletesee anon 2:37. hahaha burnnnnn..
DeleteFor those people who thinks that because airline put a height requirement so that flight attendant can put the paseenger's bag in the overhead bin is an idiot and ignorant. FA's are there not to put your handcarry bag but to reach emergency equipment and close the overhead bins. Handcarry is handcarry. Your bag your responsibility. Kung dimo mabuhat sa sarili mo, why expect other people to do it for you?
Deletekada comments thread may nababasa talaga ako about clueless people. hnd alam ano ang real tasks ng FA. nakakaawa naman. nagsasalita pa ng derogatory statements. taga buhat ng bag, paganda at pagwapo lang, tagaserve lang ng tea at kape. ganyan bah kau ka mangmang?! Google din pag may time po. break muna sa chismisan.
Deletethis is hoax. my god look at the hand hindi credible na pang 10yr old. asan ang flight details? mayayanig kaya ang PAL nito? o babalik sa cebupac ang attention dahil mukhang sila may pakana bilang bagsak sila ngayon
ReplyDeleteTama. Anlaki ng hand. Fishy tong scoop nto
DeleteHindi lang naman sa airplane bawal magbigay ng boiling water sa kid, kahit nasa ground bawal din hehe. Naaawa ko sa bata pero natawa ko sa pagbasa ng post mo teh. Choice of words mo kasi eh
ReplyDeleteIm Flight attendant of jumbo business airline.
ReplyDeleteSo?mema lang?
DeleteIt does not look like a burn to me
ReplyDeleteBakit parang binti hindi arm? Parang hairy leg
ReplyDeletePoor girl...PAL attendants are rude and no patience. Some of them have attiude, I'm talking about their international flights. But if you are dress nicely and english speaking, they give you high priority. Shame PAL
ReplyDeleteNapansin mo rin pala anon 3:01. pinoy na pinoy talaga ang attitutde nila na nangangamohan at matapobre at talaga namang bow na bow pag mayayaman. ang tingin sa lahat ng pasaherong pinoy na di sosyal ang dating ay DH.
DeleteLagi akong mukhang basahan kapag nag fafly, trans Pacific at hindi naman ako nagkaron ng issue sa PAL at ang lagi pa kong madaming dala, like ang carry on luggage ko ay 29 lbs and 15 ounces at ang "purse" ko na kasya ang bata ay at least 15 lbs. Ewan ko, some people lang siguro have extreme sense of entitlement kaya feeling nila nasnub sila kahit hindi naman. I must say though na pinaka favorite ko ang Japan Airlines dahil pinaka sarap ang pagkain at magaganda at grabeng magalang ang mga FA.
Delete-babae po ako
Ewan ko nlng sa inyo but, sakit ng lahat ng pinoy yan. Apektado ka mxado? Bka isa ka ding matapobre kya ka affected. Haha just saying :)
Deletei agree. ang ayoko sa pal flight attendants sa international flight nagchichismisan habang nasa work tungkol sa ibang workmate na hindi nila kasundo. nakakastress. minsan narinig ko din silang nagusap at pinagtawanan yung isang foreigner na passenger na may smell.
DeleteWhat do you expect? All Pinoys are like that. --- not a Pinoy
DeleteAnong gusto nyong gawin nila? Mag titigan on a long flight?
DeleteGrabe naman yung pagkasunog, exaggerated na. gawagawa ng issue para ma pansin haha
ReplyDeleteSorry pero walang BOILING water sa eroplano. I can empathize with the victim but please just narrate the truth without exaggeration to generate sympathy.
ReplyDeleteTama!
DeleteExag din ang mga expressions ng lola mo. Hehe.
Deleteagree! meron pa shang sinasabi na buti na lang wala shang baril. assuming meron at allowed tayong mag dala ng baril, ano yun, PAPATAY ka ng tao kapag nasunog yung balat ng pamangkin mo... hahahahaha! #WOW HA!
DeleteAww :( baka sensitive yung balat nung bata... pero bakit mukhang legs at hindi arm ung asa pic?
ReplyDeleteYun nga e. Kung arm yan, parang reverse ng arm. Pano mapapaso yun?
DeleteMaarte talaga mga flight stewards ng PAL,
ReplyDeleteTama ka dyan. May FA na lalaki ng PAL na bata pa chinito bastos magsalita. Hayy mga first class waitress and waiter kayo uyy.
DeleteFirst class pa rin. E ikaw walang class..... FA ng PAL
Deletehahahaha! ok ka ring mag isip anon 2:32. basta may class, ok sa yo. you make me laugh! sige, paki kuha mo nga ako ng tea at pag katapos alisin mo yang pag mumukha mo sa harap ko! tse!
Delete- babaeng walang class pero kayang utusan ang may class
Hoy! ANON 10:05. Ikaw ang bastos! Grabe ka manliit ng tao. Lahat naman ng trabaho basta marangal at nagsisikap eh wala kang karapatan na maliitin. Eh ano ngayon kung FA? Eh ano ngayon kung waiter/waitress. Wag mong nilalahat ang mga FA. Porke may bad experience ka sa isa eh ilalahat mo na.
Deleteayy joke wala palang nakalagay na sa arm "nabuhusan" my bad.
ReplyDeleteOMG!! It does not look like a burn from boiling water though. But this one's intense. Seriously?!
ReplyDeletenatapunan na ako ng mantika na kakapatay lang ng kalan at hindi ganyan kagrabe ung lapnos, although frist degree burn na daw sya sabi ng doctor, wala nmang dugo, ung pinsan ko din natapunan ng mainit na tubig nung baby pa sya pero hindi rin ganyan, siguro ginalaw or hinawakan ng bata kaya nagka ganyan..pro tama din to hear the other side of story. Kawawa yung bata, sobrang hirap nyan at hapdi.
ReplyDeletedefinitely hindi arm ang nasa picture saka sobra naman hindi ganyan ang itsura ng naburn galing boiling water.
ReplyDeletewala bang kasama yung bata??? anu ginagawa ng kasama nya?
ReplyDeleteThis is exaggeration. There's no boiling water on the plane. Hot water on the plane will cause only first degree burn. -FORMER PURSER
ReplyDeleteVery true. Unbelievable and dubious story. Ex FA too.
DeleteIs that really a burn from boiling water? Natapunan na ako before ng kumukulong tubig pero hindi naman ganyan ang itsura.
ReplyDeleteAgree! Parang isang kalderong kumukulong tubig ata ang kelangan para maging ganyan ang kalabasan. Red, may blood and pus pa. Tsaka kung hindi arm yan, pano napunta jan ang tubig? Btw, hindi ako taga-PAL. Something's just not adding up sa story..
DeleteKahit ata kaldero hindi pa rin. Nabuhusan na ako before nung naglaga ako ng okra. Bumuhos talaga sa kamay ko yung tubig. Aside sa pamumula, hapdi tska parang nagtutubig na something wala naman akong nakitang dugo. Yung itsura sa pic parang napaso na sa tambutso ng motor eh
DeleteMuka namang arm.... ng isang sporty boy.
ReplyDeleteKung totoo man to kawawa naman nung bata kung ganun. Pero obviously its not the kid's arm in the pic, its a leg of an adult i think. At may pagkukulang din nung parents kasi imagine 10 years old palang so sila dapat ang nag aabot sa bata. Sana lang gumalinb agad yung bata.
ReplyDeleteAng tagal kong tinitingnan yung pic. Pano naging ganyan? Yung red mark na pahaba at yung lapnos, pero bakit may dugo?
ReplyDeleteSana ilagay ni madam yung flight details, be more specific kasi serious case naman sya.
Something is missing here. FAs are trained to be as calm as possible. And sabi sa post nagalit pa daw yung FA which is somehow impossieble.
ReplyDeleteHindi ang FA ng PAL
DeleteI got burned myself from na kumukulong tubig, never naman naging ganyan kalala. Baka siguro kinamot or nagalaw ng bata nung natapanunan kaya lumala ng ganyan? May infection na and all. I am not sure. Nevertheless, nakakaawa naman yung bata kasi super sakit niyan.
ReplyDeleteChillax. baka nagkamali lang sa intense, binti pala at hindi arm. :)
ReplyDeleteMali naman talaga ung attendant kaya lang mas mali nman ang kakagamit mo sa pangalan ng Dios sa problema mo sa kanila
ReplyDeleteYou better go to PAL office and go directly go to the offices of high officials at PAL office.Of course the immediate bosses will protect their peeps.
ReplyDeleteI used to fly and I obviously know how scalds look like even burnt skin. Why would the FA give a boiling water to a 10 yr old pax? The pax would be definitely given first aid by the FAs once the accident was committed and they will make a report about it. That is how we were trained. With the look and severity of this wound, I doubt if it was caused by just boiling water. There is something missing here. The story is not complete.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, there is no boiling water in the aircraft. Sige sabihin natin hot water ung binigay. Did the incident happen habang binibigay ni FA ung water? Or did it happen in the possession of the family already? Common sense na lang kanino ang responsibility nyan sa both scenarios na yan. Besides, i always burn myself in the galley either with ovens or hot water directly from the spout. Burns dont look like that. And yes i have sensitive skin.
ReplyDeleteLooks like the family is just looking for somebody to blame and something to get out of the airline. Sheesh!
Impossible na ganun kainit yung tubig na yan para ma-cause yan. Grabe. Siraan na naman
ReplyDeleteparang likod ng binti nman ung napaso hndi arm. and parang 2 days old n ung sugat nya n lumalim. at ang itsura eh hindi nman boiling water ung nakapaso.
ReplyDeletepagkakita ko ng pic nagisip ako kung scalding hot water nga cause nyan coz when my brother was 1 1/2 y/o nabuhusan siya ng kakukulong tubig as in galing sa takure at nag-blisters ng bongga. so isipin natin ang skin condition ng one year old at 10 yrs old, parang iba ang cause ng burn na yan.
ReplyDeleteKawawa naman
ReplyDeleteIf there is another passenger who can attest to this maniniwala pa ako. This pic is only showing the leg?! you cant even tell what part of the body that is and if its really from a 10 yr old
ReplyDeleteWala pong boiling water sa eroplano.
ReplyDeletefor me its hard to believe na scalding hot yung maibibigay sa bata... for sure kung kumukulo yun natural naka mittens yung magbibigay! lol and for the love of God that doesn't even looked like it was done alone by a hot water! something is missing here... its just not that too real for me na gawa yan ng hot water...
ReplyDeleteThats not first degree burn, 2nd degree burn yan. Mukhang nag pop na yung blister (ouch). The attendant should have let it cool down a little bit of she knows its boiling water, esp if to be given to a kid. Aside from the wound itself, they will to deal with a big scar afterwards. File a formal complaint. Burns are always considered injury, whatever degree it is. Common sense and tactfulness were clearly not present with the attendant.
ReplyDeleteparang OA naman?
ReplyDeleteThe nanny ask the cabin crew warm water. And that what was given by the cabin crew to the nanny. Then the nanny "accidentally" spilled the water to the kid. But from the looks of it. It WAs burned with more than just boiling water even. The aircraft galley has hot water and not boiling ones. Cabin crew are license professional who are safety qualified. They have taken away the fact that the act of mishap was done by the kid's nanny and not through the negligence of the cabin crew. This is a rip off and since they can't sue the company since legally it has no merits. They are trying to get sympathy from the ever judging public. Who seems to jump to conclusions right away without knowing the whole facts.
ReplyDeleteYou seem to have inside info. Were you on the same flight? A witness, perhaps?
DeleteLets just say there are two sides of the story. You are to believe which side you want. One would know the truth if he wants to
Deletesince we work in the galley (aircrafts kitchen) all the time and do all the preparation we are often exposed to the so called hot water and ilang beses na ako natapunan sa kamay sa paa and never nngyari sakin to.. Looks like the ccomplainant is from LA hmmm... Pax profile of LA is really like that mayat maya naghahanap ng madedemanda at mairereklamo... Not all but madalas..
ReplyDeletepabaya ka kasing ina kaya nagkaganyan anak mo.
ReplyDeleteDont you ever judge the mother kasi di mu alam ang whole story!!!
DeleteI will judge the mom kasibunderage ang anak. To allow a hot water to come near a child without noticing it is negligence on the part of the mum. Plain and simple. Where would she be at the time of the incident. Hinayaan LNG ang anak humingi Ng hot water ganun?
Deletetakot ka lang sa ina nang batang iyan. kasalanan mo yan, panay kasi ang selfie mo kesa bantayan ang bata.
ReplyDeletebaka microwaved distilled water yan kaya nag-superheat at ganyan ang effect.
ReplyDeletekung fire-heated, nasa 100 degrees celsius lang or whatever is appropriate for the pressure in the area. pero kung distilled water na microwave heated, malaki problema nila.
Parang wala namang microwave oven sa loob ng aircraft.
DeleteWhat part? arm...? looks not a skin or arm of a 10 year old!!!!
ReplyDeleteThat's not an arm of a 10- yr old. This letter is a hoax!
ReplyDeleteKawawa yung bata, dapat hindi sa kanya ibinigay yung hot water, or ipinaalam man lang sa kasamang adult ng bata bago ibinigay tsksss...
ReplyDeleteParang ang laki naman ng kamay ng bata na yan.
ReplyDeleteThat is definitely not an arm of a 10-year old kid
ReplyDeleteKawawa nga naman ung bata pero it's weird lang coz PAL only serves warm water. Tas bakit may pus? As in ang laki pa talaga. Vesibles/blisters are more likely kapag scald or water burn lang...
ReplyDeleteis that an arm of a 10yr old girl? i don't think so! more like binti ng isang binata! tsk tsk.
ReplyDeleteAt daming nurse at doctor dito. Yung pic na pinakita hindi yan fresh na burn. As in immediately after the incident happened. That's why i love to read fp kasi lahat ng commenters are expert sa lahat ng bagay. Next time wag na dito sa fp i share mga ideas nyo. Mag politiko na kayo para gaganda buhay natin mga filipino.
ReplyDeleteNo one is saying it is a fresh burn.
DeleteDefine and differentiate boiling, hot and warm..boiling is kumukulo yung may bubbles bubbles pa at mausok how can you pass or give the boiling water to someone unless kasama yung stove or electric kettle..meron ba nun sa plane?think again..let's say scalding hot for the sake of argument it wont look like that if it was given attention at d 1st sign of burning..ano bang nangyayari sa meet kapag napapakuluan?and its true boiling water cant give you 3rd degree burn..at most is 2nd degree lalo na kapag mabilisan lang na natapon and malamig sa loob ng plane kung baga if u wiped it as soon as natapon baka nga magpula yun or sige ..kawawa yung "kid" ang sakit kung ganyan ..wala naman tayo dun nung nangyari so cant judge..but looking at the pic may kulang sa kwento kung bakit nagkaganyan naman kalala ang paso nung bata..
ReplyDeleteI feel bad for the kid but something is wrong with this story.
ReplyDeleteI'm the good friend of the mom of the 10 year old girl being referred to in this article. What was written by the auntie is true.
ReplyDeleteSome people may doubt the authenticity and think it's a scam perpetrated by somebody desperate for money but it is not.
I suppose the impassioned letter left so many details out in an attempt to protect the privacy of the child, but let me provide some of the details to shed light on the matter and for people who don't know any better to stop making scathing and malicious comments.
Flight date: Feb. 22, 2015
Flight number: PR 731 Bangkok to Manila
Flight attendant name involved: Natalie
The part that was burnt by the hot water was the leg and thigh of the kid. The fact that she is hairy should not make people doubt her story.
The picture taken was during the 2nd day from when the incident happened that's why the wound looks red.
My friend more than makes a decent living. She is doing this not to milk PAL but to shed light on what happened and to make the company acknowledge their lapses.
To all those who say that planes don't carry hot water, I don't know. Don't they have a coffee maker that can boil water similar to that of a kettle?
I have pictures of the incident from the plane if FP needs it to prove that it was the hot water that caused those burns.
To everyone making unnecessary and stupid comments, let me just say that the smallest incidence of delays and changes in our flights make us swear at airlines. What would an incident that happened to my friend's kid make you feel, should it happen to your loved one?
It may not be a battle that you are fighting now but if everyone makes the airline unaccountable for the incident, don't complain if this happens to you.
ate sinasabi nila boiling water ate hindi hot water. May hot water pero walang boiling water na iseserve kse hindi naman magboboil dahil malamig sa eroplano. dami nga reklamo na malamig na kape sa eroplano eh. wala ring coffee maker sa eroplano. Coffeemachine meron usually sa business class and first class just to offer pax cappuccino, latte and etc. susyaling drinks.
DeleteTry again girl, that burn is not caused by a burning water
ReplyDeleteIt looks like the burnt part is the shin or the front part of the lower leg. Therefore i seriously doubt the truthfulness of this story. Firstly, paano matatapunan ang lower leg in such a manner while inside an aircraft? If one is sitting down, ang pwede mapaso ay ang arms, hands or thighs. Medyo Imposible ang legs. Secondly, water trickles and runs down. Considering that this is the leg, how was the water concentrated on that part. Ano yun, kumapit? Thirdly, if talagang nangyari to, why did they not call the attention of the attendants on board? Bakit hindi humingi ng medical assistance or first aid? Logic dictates that a burn of such kind would have caused a reaction from the child or the traveling companions or anybody near the child. I have been through enough air travels to know that other passengers will not hesitate to get involved especially if there is such an injury. There are several attendants on board, surely they would have applied first aid to prevent further damage on the skin. Does this complainant mean to say that the kid got burned and no one from the several attendants or the other passengers gave or requested for aid? Human experience dictates that the way the story goes is not believable. For these and other reasons I am too tired to type down, I agree with a commenter above, I am calling bullsh*t on this story. Someone is lying or grossly exaggerating.
ReplyDelete1050 PM I am also too tired to type down and counter your argument point by point. Someone is lying and it is most definitely not the aggrieved party.
ReplyDeleteThere are too many things that seem improbable that happen and probable that do not happen in life.
What happened to the kid is not BS.
They say, evil prevails when good men do nothing. In this case, evil prevails when people who don't know the real story, talk and judge and say things they know nothing of.
Bakit parang d nagdrip yung water? How was she sitting down? Parang wisik?
ReplyDeleteAll i can say is that people have the right to say what they please.... but do not go down below the belt by saying this is a hoax or that there is no truth to this matter... you do not know the story and you do not know the person who posted this in the first place. But, the truth will come out soon... as am sure they will do something about it... there is no point in responding to the negative posters...
ReplyDeleteI too am a friend of the Aunt who posted the story so please believe me when I say that she doesn't need any money but was only trying to bring attention to the situation. It's a sad day when you can hide behind a keyboard and say such horrible things about a child simple because you think that no one else will know who you are . Well anonymous you better pray that nothing horrible ever happens to you and your family because trust and believe that another anonymous jerk will be typing all kinds of horrible things because like you their safe behind a keyboard. Well anonymous karma is everything oh and I'm not a cyber bully hiding behind a keyboard like yourself name is Mevelyn Google me.
ReplyDeleteO pati ikaw nakikipag-away, lumalabas ang pagka bayolente niyong mag-kaibigan. Ikaw, halos isumpa mo mga taong nagkokomento dito sa GOSSIP SITE na to. Yung kaibigan mo naman na letter sender gusto mamaril. Wow! Feeling superior lang, ganern???? Sa pulis kayo mag reklamo di dito sa FP.
DeleteYour source of the story is your friend. Wala ka din dun teh when it happened. Your friend put this story out in public. Invited the public in on the issue, so why complain if people have different opinions? Your friend decided what details to put out and obviously left out some, that's her choice. So why be surprised if people react differently? Besides, I have not read of anyone personally attacking your friend. Yung story, oo. But what did you expect? Of course the story will be interpreted, dissected and assessed by people in varying manners. Why did you have to involve and call out the other commenter and bring his/her family into the equation? You just had to go there, didn't you? Calling people cyber bullies when you appear to be no different. And you reacting like this na mukhang naghahamon. Nag-uutos pa na igoogle ka.Talaga lang ha? Tapos if people start seeking you out and making comments about you in ways you can't handle, sasabihin mo na naman cyber bullies.
DeleteMevelyn who, what, where?
DeleteThe author of the March 1, 2015 at 10:50 PM post raises good points. I, too, have the same questions. Instead na maghamon kayo diyan ng kaibigan mo, i-clarify niyo at sagutin niyo ng maayos. Ilalabas niya tong issue na to in public tapos magagalit kayo dahil merong mga red flags na nakikita ang ibang mga tao sa kwento? Anobanaman. What did you expect, everyone will accept the story at face value?
DeleteThat's an awful burn. I hope that before posting this on social media, the kid has been brought to the hospital for medical attention. As for those belittling the crew, shame on you. You may call them glorified waiter/waitresses/servers etc, but if you're on their flight, you're lives are in their hands. They are trained to administer first aid and help, in extreme cases (like emergencies). Which brings me back to the case in point. Wasn't first aid administered to kid? Has this been brought to the attention of PAL before posting this online?
ReplyDeleteDapat pala mag tayo ng Law Firm is FP para sa mga ganitong kaso. Biruin mo, ikaw kaagad ang pupuntahan! Ikaw ay isang alamat FP!
ReplyDeleteNaloka ako sa post. May usapang guns at being a criminal. Nakakaloka. Sa post pa lang parang war freak.
ReplyDeleteNever pa akong naka kita ng cabin crew giving a kid a cup of hot water. Usually, doon sa nakakatandang family member ibibigay yung hot water at yung family member ang mag papainom sa kid. Kapag nga may turbulance, lahat ng beverage service kahit na juice lang ititigil.
ReplyDeleteTrue!!! They should be responsible enough to make sure no accidents will happen to a kid
DeleteDamn!!!! Better fix this PAL.
ReplyDeleteDon't they have microwaves in airplanes? (I'm not sure lang) if they do... yes that burn is possible with water.. Happened to me, very hot almost boiling water , straight out of a from microwave spilled on my leg... gave me the same looking gross burn.
ReplyDeleteWalang microwave.
DeleteSUE them!!
ReplyDeleteI guess the picture already showed the after effects. Not the actual time it burned. But nonetheless masakit pa din yan!!!
ReplyDeletebakit mukhang pang binata na yung binti nung bata? i thought 10 yo?
ReplyDeleteSue the nanny, not the cabin crew! She's the one who asked for the water and accidentally spilled it to the child!
ReplyDeleteAsan ba magulang ng batang to at bata pa ang pinag halo ng Milo?
ReplyDeleteCool kang guys, whatever happens, yum masabtan pa rin Ang dapat panigan
ReplyDeleteThis is true. I don't think anyone wants this to happen to any family member especially to a child....
ReplyDeleteAccidents happen to anyone. You can't measure how grave it is until you experience it or witness it on your own. Stop the non sense comments . Sana hindi mangyari sa inyo then you will know the real story.
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