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Tuesday, February 24, 2015

PNoy Leaves Some SAF Families Hurt



President Aquino's answers to families of the slain police Special Action Force (SAF) commandos in Mamasapano left them hurt, one widow told ABS-CBN News.

"Janet," the wife of one of the slain SAP troopers, said Aquino even scolded them when they met at Camp Crame Wednesday.

Her account of the meeting, which was sent to ABS-CBN News, echoed what another SAF relative felt after Aquino talked to her.

Janet said the were made to wait for hours for the President.

"Six p.m. po nang sinabi sa amin ng protocol officer namin na hindi muna kami pwede umuwi dahil darating si Mr. President. Matagal pa po kami naghintay. Eight p.m. na siya dumating at nagsimula po niyang kausapin per table ang bawat pamilya (3 pamilya per table)," she said.

"Pasado alas 11 na po ng gabi nang mapagdesisyunan na ang 6 na pamilyang natitira ay pagsama-samahin para mas mapabilis na matapos ang paguusap. Bago kami kausapin nagsabi ang Pangulo na maghihilamos muna sya. Pagkatapos ng mahabang paghihintay nagsimula ang usapan kung saan bawat pamilya ang nagtatanong," Janet said.

This is what several families of the slain SAF troopers asked the President, and his answers, according to Janet:

Family 1: "Magtatanong lang po kami bakit tumagal ng mahigit 10 oras ang bakbakan, bakit walang reinforcement? Ilang survivor na po ang nainterview at sinabi na maghapon silang nakipaglaban para mabuhay pero walang reinforcement na dumarating."

The President reportedly admitted that he knew about the Mamasapano clash as early as 7 a.m., but directly blamed now-sacked SAF chief Getulio Napeñas for the fiasco.

"Sabi ko, padalhan ng reinforcement iyan kaya akala ko okay na. Di ko naman alam na hindi pala totoo iyun. At di ko rin alam na bandang hapon eh napapalaban na rin ang (SAF) 84th Seaborne," Aquino allegedly replied.

The President also said it's not easy sending reinforcements and compared it to going to a mall to meet a friend. "Kayo ba kapagkunwari itetext nyo friend nyo, 'Kita tayo sa MOA,' ganun lang ba kadali sa inyo na pumunta dun?"

Janet also said they couldn't accept what Aquino told another family, who asked for justice for the slain police officers.

Aquino allegedly asked the family if they wanted him to get the fingerprints of all enemy combatants in the Mamasapano clash. "Ano gusto nyo gawin ko, kunin natin ang fingerprint ng mga kalaban? Aba madami iyun, para malaman natin sino pumatay sa mga kamag-anak nyo."

The President also reportedly said he and the SAF families were "equal" because his father was also killed. "Namatay rin ang tatay ko, alam ko pakiramdam niyo kaya patas na rin tayo ngayon."

Aquino reiterated that it was Napenas' fault, according to Janet. "Ang may kasalanan diyan, 'yung nag-utos na papuntahin sila dun. Alam na delikado tinuloy pa rin at si Napenas iyun," the President allegedly said.

Janet said some families just went home and did not talk to Aquino because they were dismayed with what he said.

PNP spokesman Chief Supt. Generoso Cerbo, meamnwhile, denied that a confrontation took place between Aquino and the families of the slain SAF commandos.

Deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte on Friday said Malacañang respects the sentiments of the SAF troopers.

"Owing to the fact that their loss is very, very fresh and that they lost their loved ones in such a manner, we would understand… [that] they look at that opportunity to be able to ask the President questions differently," Valte said.

"There are also families who have chosen not to speak of their private conversation but also did say they have no ill feelings towards the President. So at this point, we respect the differentiation of how he was received," she said. 

71 comments:

  1. Kawawa naman talaga ang mga namatayan ng SAF.
    But what were they expecting from this sad excuse of a leader?

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    1. They were expecting empathy. Ang kaso, na-empatso na sila't lahat sa kahihintay, 'nung dumating ay sinabihan lang sila na tabla-tabla lang sila na namatayan ng ama. What they got was apathy instead. Way to go Panot. Alienate your public more, why don't you?

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    2. Sobrang dami ng namatay na armies at marines kahit noon pa. Now, it's magnified... They are policemen and soldiers, ready to battle. They know na part ng pagiging hero nila ay ganito...

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  2. Kung totoo man to, wala talaga ako masabi sayo Mr. President. Ikaw na talaga! Lagi mo nalang sinisisi ang ibang tao. Man up dude! At sabihin mong patas na kayo ng mga SAF family members dahil namatayan ka din ng ama?? Oh, cmon! its completely different! Di ka man lang naawa sa mga pamilya ng mga namatayan. Nakakagigil talaga!! Asan na ang justice na hinihingi nila??? Mukhang malabo ito mangyari dahil busy ang mahal nating presidente sa pagpopoint ng fingers sa ibang tao. Perpekto sya masyado. Ayaw niya madungisan ang kanyang "tuwid na daan" pweh!! Sayang lang tax na binabayad ko sa gobyerno na to. Kabwisit.

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  3. Asan na ba yung matuwid na daan ni Panot Pnoy?matuwid na daan sa balukton na patutungohan. legacy nang pamilya nyo di naman kapuripuri.

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    1. tuwid na daan ang diretso bangin...

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    2. Dba ganyan sa Yolanda, magpunta sya sa dinaanan ng bagyo hindi sa mismo ng centrong nasalanta nalimot

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  4. If I were PNoy, I will step down and just leave politics. Philippines and its people are not worth your time. Let the the people who "LOVES" the Philippines kuno take the Presidency's post. Tingnan lang natin kung may mag invest pa sa bansa natin. Nobody cares if you do good. They just see what you have done wrong.

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    1. What you said is right. He should step down because he's incompetent. Walang political will and doesn't know how to man up. But on the other hand he's only insurance right now is that mas bigger evil ang Vice President. But open your eyes Bastos ang presidente mo. Walang pakiramdam. What good has he done to the families of the fallen? He just rubs their wound with salt every time he tries to win them back. Why? Because he really doesn't care. Period. Yun Lang yun. Maybe we should just stop expecting him to care because he never will lets just accept that he's a politician and that all he will ever be.

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    2. Tama. He should. Binay has been more effectve than him

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  5. Ewan ko ba! Para sa akin mga aquinos orocan! Yun ang dating nila sa akin.

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    1. Very well said...

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    2. I couldn't agree more

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    3. Agree! This incident will be the legacy of the most incompetent PH President ever! Isama pa yung Luneta incident, Yolanda etc. Ang baho talaga aamoy kahit anong tago, I say this is karma ang puhunan lang naman ng taong ito e pagkamatay ng nanay at tatay nya. Nagsisimula palang ang pagbabayad mo abnoy! pwe!

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  6. Pnoy is very insensitive. The truest form of emotion and truest form of truth can be heard from the families of the fallen kin. None is more reliable than them.

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  7. showing of arrogance of this incompetent leader,pamilya mo nagpahirap sa mga pilipino puro pang sariling interes lang ginagawa nyo for privatazing government facilities,hospitals na dapat publiko nakikinabang there will be a time na babalik din sa inyo mga pahirap ginawa nyo sa mga pilipino, bumalik na kayo ng china tutal mga tsekwa naman kyo.

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  8. Kung tutoo itong nangyaring pag-uusap, its true then na ganun kalala ang insensitivity ni Pnoy. Parang wala syang empathy at all and his responses are so arrogant. Yung pagiging tactless, does run in the family.

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  9. Oh my! If this is true. Sobrang walang kwenta ng presidente natin

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    1. Just look what he did sa villamor...

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  10. Nakakapanlumo ang mga sagot nitong si pnoy. Grabe. Walang accountability itong taong ito. Sayang huli na at naging presidente na. Sana matuto na ang mga tao at bumoto ng tama sa susunod na eleksyon. Pero hindi talaga natin malalaman hanggat magtrabaho na. Parang hindi nagiisip itong presidenteng ito. Napaka insensitive. Walang accountability. Nagturo sa escape goat na si Napenas. Sa tingin ko alam nya itong operasyon na ito sa simulat simula. Walang kwenta itong pinunong ito.

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  11. our hearts grieve for fallen 44 ,our hearts condole for their families.we despise terrorism and our country suffers with that .this is all over the world the worst was 911.hear me now what do you want pnoy to do go to war w/ mindanao ,philippines is luzon visayas and mindanao we are all filipinos do you want civil war ,think the president is like you and me ,human .

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  12. Oh ayan kita kita na Ka A ng presidente nyo suportahan nyo pa.Napapala ng mga Pilipinong mahilig manuod ng drama pati sa pulitiko dinadala ka dramahan..Ng namatay si Cory ayan nah parang bida na inapi mga aquino kaya naman mga pinoy mega vote kay pnoy. Haaay Pilipinas kelan ka matatauhan!!

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    1. Si Erap at Arroyo hindi nagdrama pero binoto pa rin. Ngayon, tayo ang nagbabayad ng pagnanalaw nila!

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  13. Walang kwenta talaga ysn si Pnoy. Palibhasa naging presidente kang naman siya dahil sa mga magulang niya not because of his own merit. He was never in the shortlist for presidentiables. Kung di namatay si Cory hanggang senator lang siya no. Dapat dyan magresign na!

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    1. Di nman nya ginusto maging pres e... napilitan lang. Kung sya lng pababayaan, nungka papasok ng politika yan e. Mas gugustuhin pa nyan makipaglaro ke josh ng DOTA kesa umintindi sa nakakalokang sistema ng politika natin. Sa totoo lng, he doesnt give a single f*ck.

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  14. Why does Aquino always equate his father's death to that of the 44 SAF men and says "Patas na tayo, pareho tayo namatayan". How insensitive he is, tao ba ito??? How can they be equal, when his father died, his mom became the president of this nation, his family amassed millions from the previously owned government properties and companies, Kris Aquino on national TV from morning 'til night, and the worst part, He is now the President of this beautiful country, and will enjoy all the priviliges, benefits when his term ends. Eh itong mga family members ng SAF, ni justice yata di nila makamtan with the way the president answers those question, pabalang pa!!! Que horror!!!

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    1. True! walang kwentang presidente. Paano naging patas na namatayan sila pareho? He's a no brain at all.

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    2. The loss of a family member cannot be replaced by fame or fortune. Que horror!!!

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  15. tactlessness insensitivity arrogance undiplomatic yan ang BOSS nya !!!

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  16. Siguro totoo nga yung sabi sabi na may mild autism si pnoy. Look at the way he acts. Lagi lang siyang nakangiti na para bang may sarili siyang mundo.

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  17. just like his sister
    everything revolves around their family
    boo hoo

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    1. Just like her sister, he's tactless, arrogant & insensitive. He is her sister's male version less the charm or charisma.

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  18. Sana tumakbo si Senator Grace Poe for president coz siya lang a ng nakikita ko na may good intention sa Pilipinas.

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    1. Asus, isa pang walang alam yan.

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    2. i don't think so. she's also playing safe sa hearing about #galant44. besides, babae na naman?? matuto na tau kay cory aquino.

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  19. His answers was painful and hurtful PERIOD!! How dare he say those kind of words, not because he have feel the same pain for losing his father. So he wants every child to feel the same pain he did? Didn't the whole nation fight their fight, We lost a lot of our countrymen to glorify and serve justice for your father's death?! Despite Cojuangco-Aquino ancestors history during colonial wars, all of that was by-pass. Don't try to bring back the pass an excuse. If we are here to rewind the past, Mr. President family will lost its honour, shame will replace it.

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  20. If this is true, shame on the president. I hope he stops comparing his experience with the fallen44's families. It's just not the same.

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  21. His very arrogant and very insensitive 😟😕😳

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  22. Gusto ata sagot ng mga families ay: si Pnoy ang gumawa ng plano, nagsikreto sa plano, siya dapat ang nagcoordinate, nakikutsaba sya sa US, he broke the chain of command at sya ang may kasalanan kung bakit namatay ang SAF44. Tapos gusto siguro nila na parusahan pa ang president ng lifetime inprisonment. Nung nagpasabog ng bomba sa MRT at bus ang terorista hindi naman sinisisi sa presidente e.

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  23. Masyado lang honest si Pnoy!!!! Kung iisipin nyo pwedi naman nyang sabihin maghintay sila sa imbestigasyon dahil hindi nya alam ang buong detalye. Period! Kaya lang nakikipagkwentuhan pa sya na parang nasa bahay lang sila.

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  24. ang totoong talo dito eh taung lahat magbitaw man yang si panot eh si ulikba naman kapalit ala din... haaay buhay

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  25. Let's all be vigilant guys, tinatry na nilang iexonerate si PeNoy, just listening to Trillanes' leading questions makes me want to strangle him! Even si Grace Poe sinasabi na namislead lang daw ang pangulo nina Purisima at Napeñas, OMG lahat na lang sila apologists for PeNoy!

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  26. c'mon guys! think Mr. pres. act like a father to a million filipinos , thats why he show that he is strong, we really dont know how he feel inside. so stop saying hes insensitive. puro kayo reklamo, hindi na maibabalik ang buhay ng mga namatay. he is a good president, kaso lang maraming gusto mag nakaw kaya maraming atat paalisin sya.

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    1. Kung ikaw namatayan, let's see if you'll say the same thing!

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    2. Anon 12:05. If my son wanted to be a soldier and died doing his job, then I will be proud. Ang pagiging soldier, may risk na kasama at palaging nakalagay sa hukay ang isang paa nila. Why? Because a soldier is ready to defend the country and its people. Yun nga ang trabaho nila!

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    3. (Laughs) Anong nangyari sa DAP nya? Sa mga donation for Yolanda? Sa mga pangako bagong buldings, roads and everything? Not because he is from a rich clan, it gurantee his to be clean? Maybe, yun mga nasa upper class lang nakakaramdam lang paglago ng buhay nila. Pero as one of middle class or lower class. No it's worst. Hintayin na lang nating after his term, dun naman naglalabasan lahat ng baho ng pulitiko eh?

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    4. I super agree!! Andami ng namatay na sundalo mula pa noon sa npa at sa mindanao. Mga marines pinupugutan ng ulo, may lumabas ba sa media?!? Napakasakit mawalan ng minamahal, but the fallen SAF knew what they were facing. That's why they are called heroes. Ang isang paa nila nasa hukay na hindi pa man sila sumasabak sa gera!

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  27. my goodness, maraming tao. mahina sa military operation. tanungin niyo sa napenas. dahil siya ang operation commander, hindi ang pangulo.

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    1. u might be forgetting si presidente din yung higher rank na nagcocommand if e pupursue o hindi ang operations.

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    2. Masyado kasing brainwashed ang mga tao sa mga nanayayari sa pelikula kaya ang akala ng marami ang presidente ang nag plaplano kung ano at paano ang gagawin sa isang operation. News flash mga kapatid, ang presidente, walang alam yan sa war. Inaabisuhan lang siya kung ano ang gagawin ng mga military commander.

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    3. U might also be forgetting na hindi ito micro management. Kaya nga each person has his/her own responsibility. And the president has to trust his people to his/her job.

      And honestly, Pnoy was never the charismatic and tactful person. He was never the nurturing type. I would rather that he makes steps to solve the problem, rather than spend too much time trying to appease everyone and not hurt people's feelings. Move on na tayo, utang na loob! We need to look for and toward solutions and stop focusing on the drama!

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  28. The country expects a perfect president. I don't think that impeaching every president of this country for every mistake they make is the wisest decision. It also speaks poorly of the people.

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    1. sabi ko nga kahit sino maupo binabash... gusto iimpeach... kahit anu gawin na maganda, sa isang pagkakamali yun ang mapupuna ng mapupuna.

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  29. Man, if this is true how very disappointing. MR. President continues to show how insensitive he could be. I feel for the families. May God keep your and your families in his warm embrace.

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  30. To be honest, Yes, i am saddened to the fallen 44 victims and to their families. Why some filipinos when they had the side of the majority they want people to see that they're unfortunate. I'm impressed of what Pnoy did, definitely he has a lot responsibilities to do. But, he sincerely tries to lend his ear for the family of the victims. And true life is incomparable. Money is not the equivalent of life. However, if they think beyond. Pnoy made effort to talk, explain and emphasized with them. Ano ba talag ang gusto nila? Justice? Do they think they will get justice right away in having a conversation with the president? Definitely No! The best thing to do right now is to pray. Nobody wants that to happen except for those people who killed them. Pnoy does everything all he can to solve this problem. And to those who wants to resign pnoy? They are insecure. Tignan nyo ang economic growth of the philippines you will see that PNoy is best so far as the president of the philippines. Marami kasing natatakot na baka tumakbo si pnoy ulit that is why all black proganda rise unexpedtedly and this fallen 44 issue many of them are taking advantage on this situation. See! One mistake will forget all the beautiful that you do. Yan ang mga taong walang Faith, mga insecure, mga envous, and all the seven deadly sin nasa kanila. Basta, have faith in God, pray, and he will the one para ma solve ang prayer mo.

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  31. Wala na talaga syang pag-asa. Kawawa tayong mga BOSS nya. Ewan ko siguro dahil wala syang sariling asawa at anak kaya ganyan magsalita. Mga pamilya ng SAF gusto lang nila umuwi ng buhay ang kanilang mahal sa buhay galing sa bakbakan. Dahil sa dami ng loophole ng operation maraming buhay nawala. Nakakainis pa inaasa sa text. Wala ba silang load para tumawag wala man lang sense of urgency.

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    1. Sa isang taong ganyang katanda at hanggang ngayon walang taong gustong samahan sya habang buhay, sa tingin ko mey mali talaga sa pagkatao nya. Grabe ang mga sinabe nya dito sa mga pamilyang namatayan. Wala syang pakielam.

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  32. Thats why i never liked him since 2010. Even before the elections. He was with both lower and upper houses at wala siyang nagawa, maging presidente pa? Kalokohan lang ang mga bumoto diyan.

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    1. tumpak! sarap batuhin ng yellow sh*t mga bomoto sa kanya!

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  33. Ang gusto ng pinoy, yung maawain, yung mahilig mag pa photo op, yung nag bibigay ng malaking limos sa mga constituents nya kahit na ninanakawan na sila patalikod. I would rather have Pnoy na walang charisma at straight to the point kesa sa kung sinong susunod sa kanya.

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    1. Hindi yan ang pinaguusapan dito. Hindi maganda ang paghandle ni Noynoy ng operation at ng backlash sa nangyari. Sya ang responsible pero sa mga sinasagot nya, wala syang ownership sa nangyare. Hindi sya 'straight to the point' gaya ng sabi mo. Sinisisi nya ang ibang tao sa isang bagay na sya ang mey ultimate responsibility. Wag ka rin mag generalize sa lahat ng pinoy. Hindi lahat ng Pilipino gusto yung maawain etc. Ang hingi ng marami key Noynoy ay to own up on his responsibility dito.

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  34. That's why I didn't vote for him. Problem with the majority of the Filipinos naka base pa rin ang boto sa pangalan at popularity. Now what?

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  35. people... kahit sino naman yatang presidente ang umupo, kahit maganda ang gawin at ginagawa hindi nakikita. ang pinupuna ng madalas eh yung pagkakamali. tao nga naman...

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