Eh pumirma nga raw ng kontrata sa ibang petroleum company. Kung kayo nasa kalagayan ni Phoenix, ibibigay niyo pa ba kahit ang ibig sabihin ay para kayong nagpapakin ng tao na tina-traydor kayo? Normal lang na reaction yung ginawa ni Phoenix. Minsan kasi, need din natin mahiya at ibalik ang pabor, or at least huwag nalang kalabanin yung gustong tumulong sa atin. Mga ganid lang ang gumagawa ng ganyan.
Donation nga eh, eh bakit may kapalit? Eh di sana ginawa nilang endorser si Hidilyn kung yun pala gusto nila. Non-taxable ang donations. Ang endorsement may VAT. Eh sino gusto makatipid ngayon?
Anong pabor? sila mismo nag announce ng free lifetime supply sa kanya. Sila ang hindi tumupad wala naman pumilit sa kanila na bigyan ng incentive si Hidilyn sila ang nakiride noon sa kasikatan umasa na ippromote sila in exhange of that free supply tapos nung may malaking company na nagpa endorse in proper way na may bayad at contrata saka sila nagtampo.
Sinuportahan ni Phoenix yung isa kahit hindi pa gold medalist. Binigyan ng 5M pagkatapos manalo. Pero pumirma parin ng kontrata sa kakumpitensiya yung isa. Kung kayo si Phoenix, ano mararamdaman niyo? Hahaha! Eme eme kayo eh. Delikadesa at hiya; sana meron kayo nang mga yan! Madali magsalita kasi wala kayo sa sitwasyon ni Phoenix!
10:14 Ang donation or reward ay walang kalakip na kondisyon kapag binigay. Me 2 properties nga na magkaibang companies pero binawi ba nung isa yun nabigay na? Naki-ride lang ang Phoenix nyo.
Ha ha... when was the last time a penoy read the fine print? :D :D :D And the real question is... can they even understand that fine print ;) ;) ;) Next time kasi, hire a lawyer to read the contract :) :) :) Hilig kasi sa diskarte :D :D :D
Kakapal ng mukha! Pati incentive at premyo, budol! Hahaha. Matapos magbigay ng gold, ginanyan lang nila. Sila tong nakipagsabayan sa pagpapayabang! Ang ending, x-deal pala!
10:14, it was a donation, no endorsement. Sana nagpasign sila ng contract that conditional pala ang lifetime na yan. Baka nga kaya nagpaendorse si Hidilyn dahil nawala ang freebie. So we don’t know kung ano ang nauna pero it doesn’t matter kasi donation nga.
Ang sinasabi po na endorsement ay sa Petron. May statement napo na nauna nagsign ng contract sa ibang petroleum company bago inalisan nung lifetime supply.
That’s delicadeza and greed. Hope people get that. Unless walang delicadeza and greedy ung mga taong nag-iinsist na mali si Phoenix.
sis hindi nman hiningi ni Hidilyn ang libreng gas sila mismo ang nag announce at nakiride noon sa kasikatan nya. At pakiwari ko gusto lang nila makatipid sa endorsement dapat sana ginawa nila inalok nila.ng endorsement sa proper way hindi ung papalitawin na binigay tapos may kapalit. Sa bagay mas makakatipid sila kesa kunin sya endorser sa lakinng market value ni Hidilyn nuon
Understand also where Phoenix petroleum is coming from. Gusto niyo ng lifetime free gas pero nageendorse kayo ng ibang fuel company, at kahit picture di pwedeng magawa ni Hidilyn sa Phoenix. Siguro na balance din ni Hidilyn kung ano ang mas beneficial. Libreng gas for life o yung bayad sa other petroleum company for endorsing. Obviously she chose the latter.
You can't have your cake and eat it too. Ergo, don't be too greedy.
Her Petron deal might have also included an X amount of fuel every month for the duration of her contract. Sana lang, por delicadeza, she declined to receive the last free fuel donation by Phoenix since she was already under contract with Petron.
Phoenix supported Hidilyn even way back her training days, gave her P5M and other prizes. Even if it was an incentive they never asked and was willingly given dahil sa talagang proud sila sa kanya, parang she was worth their financial support, but what I wonder about is:
When the offer from Petron came, out of respect, ipinaalam ba sa Phoenix na may offer? Did the parties discuss and arrive at a mutual agreement? O pareho nalang nagkagulatan na tinanggap nila ang Petron offer tapos sa end ni !s. Diaz eh naputol na bigla benefit? Obviously may naging communication gap between parties.
Kasi for me, que ex-deal pala yan o unli-supply for life with no conditions ang nakapaloob sa incentive, parang kahit out of courtesy eh duty ng manager na-iinform ang lahat ng parties, including Petron, at plantsahin muna ang lahat bago mag-finalize ng kahit anong deal. Especially since Phoenix has been supportive even before sya sumikat at nanalo ng Olympic gold. This is not about utang na loob or budol or whatever. Courtesy and respect lang for all parties involved.
11:31 that is not needed if wala siyang contract na pinirmahan. H doesn’t need their consent. It’s a donation. Walang humingi, kusang binigay. Nakinabang sila pareho pero mas may advantage yung company dahil inannounce nila yan for PR. H has no obligation to tell them. This is not about having delicadeza too. No contract, not an endorser, she was given a donation. Period. Lifetime is lifetime. So dapat nagsabi sila ng terms and conditions is that she is not allowed to endorse or her “lifetime” fuel will cease.
Both party made a mistake. Phoenix for not sticking to their promise (especially if there was no contract providing information about what can and cannot be done). Hidilyn, for signing a contract with another gas company, endorsing another gas company, while continuing to also enjoy the free gas support from Phoenix.
Tinupad nmn ng Phoenix ang promise nila, ang problema lang bawal na si hidilyn makita na nagpapagas sya sa iba kasi exclusive na sya ng Petron. Yung contact with Petron ang humarang sa fuel supply ni hidilyn sa phoenix. Gets??
Kahit kusa binigay sa kanya yung free fuel and walang terms, i think mas maayos talaga na napag usapan lahat dahil meron talagang issue if she will promote another gas company. Choose 1 lang talaga.
Kahit walang contract whatsoever w Phoenix, hello naman syempre nakaka ewan yung move nila Hidilyn na mag endorse sa ibang company. Sana pinatigil na lang yung sa Phoenix or pinabigay sa ibang athlete. Common sense at delikadeza na lang ba sana.
Although walang contract or terms & conditions si Phoenix, gets naman natin na ung free lifetime fuel for Hidilyn and her recognizing the donation every year or posting it as a proof, is actually a free advertisement/endorsement for Phoenix. Kumbaga investment ang tawag dun sa part ni Phoenix. And Hidilyn, although walang monetary na narereceive (aside sa 5m incentives noon) eh good as cash naman ung fuel lalo na kung wala naman limit per month o year. Kaso ang ginawa ni Hidilyn, nagendorse ng ibang fuel company making her unable to acknowledge Yung fuel donation ni Phoenix. Kung ikaw din si Phoenix ititigil mo din ung donation although lifetime siya because at the end of the day, as a company every move naman nila is to profit. And be kind natin sa phoenix dahil they did their part naman in 2 years, kaya nga lang it has to end due to contract ni Hidilyn sa ibang company, not because di sila willing ifulfil un. Isipin mo din ikaw Petron, babayaran mo si Hidilyn to endorse you pero ang gasoline is Phoenix (kahit na di niya I post) meron at meron mantsismis na nakaphoenix siya. Ikaw mismo babawasan mo ung endorser mo to use competitor's product. And ikaw si Hidilyn, may libre ka gas from Phoenix and may contract ka sa petron as endorser, Hannah Montana best of both worlds lang ang peg.
Nasira yung ‘lifetime supply of fuel’ nya nung pumirma sya ng contract sa Petron. Hindi ang phoenix ang may problema since naibigay ang 5m nya at naka 2yrs sya na supply ng walang aberya. Endorser na sya ng Petron, pumirma sya ng contract. Ginawa syang exclusive sa Petron, ano magagawa ng Phoenix?? Gamitin ang utak!! Pag endorser ka ng certain brand hindi ka na pwede makita sa kalabang brand. Remember Anne Curtis, aksidente nyang nasabi yung slogan ng mcdo, natakot sya. Ganun kay Hidilyn. Endorser sya ng Petron kaya hindi na sya pwede makita na nagpapagas kahit saan kundi breach of contract yun. Kaya sya na mismo ang kusang nagstop ng communication nila ng Phoenix. Anong magagawa ng Phoenix dun???
ang pangit naman talaga na while you are getting free from one company, you are promoting a different competing company. Kahit pa sabihin na hinde sya required ipromote. Ang pangit pa din. Common sense na lang. Im on Phoenix side on this.
Si Manager talaga yan. Sana bago pumirma sa Petron ipinaalam muna sa Phoenix na may offer. Delikadeza lang sa nag-support sa training at nagbigay ng P5M cash and lifetime supply nung manalo. Take note sa mga nagsasabing sumakay lang sa kasikatan, alamin nyo muna na kahit di kasing laki ang pangalan ng Phoenix sa ibang gas station, mas matunog pa rin brand nila kaysa sa pangalan ni Hidilyn. Do the math. Sa part naman ng Phoenix, tumupad naman sila. Pero pwedeng respeto nalang din sa isa’t isa ng dalawang petroleum companies, na posibleng magkakaibigan din ang kapwa shareholdrs sa business community, eh meron nag give way. I don’t think Petron will also be that discourteous about just making an offer kung alam nilang hindi pwede or magkakaroon ng legal implications.
Masyado lang maraming ebas si Manager. Kung gusto magsalita, sana hindi parang nagpasaring. O Kaya nakipag usap nalang privately.
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Eh pumirma nga raw ng kontrata sa ibang petroleum company. Kung kayo nasa kalagayan ni Phoenix, ibibigay niyo pa ba kahit ang ibig sabihin ay para kayong nagpapakin ng tao na tina-traydor kayo? Normal lang na reaction yung ginawa ni Phoenix. Minsan kasi, need din natin mahiya at ibalik ang pabor, or at least huwag nalang kalabanin yung gustong tumulong sa atin. Mga ganid lang ang gumagawa ng ganyan.
ReplyDeleteDonation nga eh, eh bakit may kapalit? Eh di sana ginawa nilang endorser si Hidilyn kung yun pala gusto nila. Non-taxable ang donations. Ang endorsement may VAT. Eh sino gusto makatipid ngayon?
DeleteNalagtawan mo ata ung sinabing WALANG TERMS AND CONDITION nung prinesent kay Hidilyn ung incentive.
DeleteAnong pabor? sila mismo nag announce ng free lifetime supply sa kanya. Sila ang hindi tumupad wala naman pumilit sa kanila na bigyan ng incentive si Hidilyn sila ang nakiride noon sa kasikatan umasa na ippromote sila in exhange of that free supply tapos nung may malaking company na nagpa endorse in proper way na may bayad at contrata saka sila nagtampo.
DeleteTingin nyo papayag ang Petron na H will continue to receive gas from Phoenix? Pano if napicturan siyang ngpapagas sa Phoenix while endorsing Petron?!
DeleteDelicadeza po Sir. Alangan naman libre ka sa kanila tapos doon ka sa kabila nagpromote. Kahit libre pa yan.
DeleteSinuportahan ni Phoenix yung isa kahit hindi pa gold medalist. Binigyan ng 5M pagkatapos manalo. Pero pumirma parin ng kontrata sa kakumpitensiya yung isa. Kung kayo si Phoenix, ano mararamdaman niyo? Hahaha! Eme eme kayo eh. Delikadesa at hiya; sana meron kayo nang mga yan! Madali magsalita kasi wala kayo sa sitwasyon ni Phoenix!
Delete10:14 Ang donation or reward ay walang kalakip na kondisyon kapag binigay. Me 2 properties nga na magkaibang companies pero binawi ba nung isa yun nabigay na? Naki-ride lang ang Phoenix nyo.
DeleteWell sa ekonomiya ngayon at taas ng gasolina. Ms. Diaz eh nakaluwag luwag ka naman sa iba diyan. Hayaan mo na mapunta sa iba muna ang gasolina mo.
ReplyDeleteKanino naman ibibigay ng Phoneix yung gas eh in the first place Olympic medalist si Hidilyn kaya siya nabigyan ng libre
DeleteHa ha... when was the last time a penoy read the fine print? :D :D :D And the real question is... can they even understand that fine print ;) ;) ;) Next time kasi, hire a lawyer to read the contract :) :) :) Hilig kasi sa diskarte :D :D :D
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DeleteKakapal ng mukha! Pati incentive at premyo, budol! Hahaha. Matapos magbigay ng gold, ginanyan lang nila. Sila tong nakipagsabayan sa pagpapayabang! Ang ending, x-deal pala!
ReplyDeleteHindi sya x-deal.
DeleteNung nag-endorse sya ng ibang petroleum company it is as if sinabi na ni ateng na “ayoko sa gas nyo”
And sobrang greedy naman. Binabayaran ng P*tron to endorse their product tapos pa-gas pa ni Pho*nix.
10:14, it was a donation, no endorsement. Sana nagpasign sila ng contract that conditional pala ang lifetime na yan. Baka nga kaya nagpaendorse si Hidilyn dahil nawala ang freebie. So we don’t know kung ano ang nauna pero it doesn’t matter kasi donation nga.
DeleteAng sinasabi po na endorsement ay sa Petron. May statement napo na nauna nagsign ng contract sa ibang petroleum company bago inalisan nung lifetime supply.
DeleteThat’s delicadeza and greed. Hope people get that. Unless walang delicadeza and greedy ung mga taong nag-iinsist na mali si Phoenix.
Sir jusko ka, tanungin mo muna alaga mo.
ReplyDeleteJusko ka din. Alamin ang donasyon sa endorsement deal. Magkaiba yan.
DeleteWala po bang contract na pinirmahan? I mean, may libre kang fuel fr phoenix pero ine endorse mo petron? Make it make sense.
ReplyDeletesis hindi nman hiningi ni Hidilyn ang libreng gas sila mismo ang nag announce at nakiride noon sa kasikatan nya. At pakiwari ko gusto lang nila makatipid sa endorsement dapat sana ginawa nila inalok nila.ng endorsement sa proper way hindi ung papalitawin na binigay tapos may kapalit. Sa bagay mas makakatipid sila kesa kunin sya endorser sa lakinng market value ni Hidilyn nuon
DeleteUnderstand also where Phoenix petroleum is coming from. Gusto niyo ng lifetime free gas pero nageendorse kayo ng ibang fuel company, at kahit picture di pwedeng magawa ni Hidilyn sa Phoenix. Siguro na balance din ni Hidilyn kung ano ang mas beneficial. Libreng gas for life o yung bayad sa other petroleum company for endorsing. Obviously she chose the latter.
ReplyDeleteYou can't have your cake and eat it too. Ergo, don't be too greedy.
Eh di naman sya nanlimos ng free gas, yung phoenix yung nagsabi na magbibigay yun pala ex-deal ang gusto. Eh di hindi donation yun.
DeleteHer Petron deal might have also included an X amount of fuel every month for the duration of her contract. Sana lang, por delicadeza, she declined to receive the last free fuel donation by Phoenix since she was already under contract with Petron.
DeleteSo for show lang pala ang pangako na lifetime fuel ng phoenix. Nakisakay lang sa publicity at kasikatan before ni hidilyn.
ReplyDelete09:37 balik ka dito after mo basahin statement ng Phoenix.
DeleteProblema sa mga ibang pinoy, bilig mangwarla without reading and COMPREHENDING every statement in the contract.
Delete9:37 alamin po ang facts…
DeletePhoenix supported Hidilyn even way back her training days, gave her P5M and other prizes. Even if it was an incentive they never asked and was willingly given dahil sa talagang proud sila sa kanya, parang she was worth their financial support, but what I wonder about is:
DeleteWhen the offer from Petron came, out of respect, ipinaalam ba sa Phoenix na may offer? Did the parties discuss and arrive at a mutual agreement? O pareho nalang nagkagulatan na tinanggap nila ang Petron offer tapos sa end ni !s. Diaz eh naputol na bigla benefit? Obviously may naging communication gap between parties.
Kasi for me, que ex-deal pala yan o unli-supply for life with no conditions ang nakapaloob sa incentive, parang kahit out of courtesy eh duty ng manager na-iinform ang lahat ng parties, including Petron, at plantsahin muna ang lahat bago mag-finalize ng kahit anong deal. Especially since Phoenix has been supportive even before sya sumikat at nanalo ng Olympic gold. This is not about utang na loob or budol or whatever. Courtesy and respect lang for all parties involved.
11:31 that is not needed if wala siyang contract na pinirmahan. H doesn’t need their consent. It’s a donation. Walang humingi, kusang binigay. Nakinabang sila pareho pero mas may advantage yung company dahil inannounce nila yan for PR. H has no obligation to tell them. This is not about having delicadeza too. No contract, not an endorser, she was given a donation. Period. Lifetime is lifetime. So dapat nagsabi sila ng terms and conditions is that she is not allowed to endorse or her “lifetime” fuel will cease.
Deletethat is the point of 11:31, not needed but out of courtesy and integrity. everyone made a mistake here at some point. humility na lang to accept that.
DeleteBoth party made a mistake. Phoenix for not sticking to their promise (especially if there was no contract providing information about what can and cannot be done). Hidilyn, for signing a contract with another gas company, endorsing another gas company, while continuing to also enjoy the free gas support from Phoenix.
ReplyDeleteTinupad nmn ng Phoenix ang promise nila, ang problema lang bawal na si hidilyn makita na nagpapagas sya sa iba kasi exclusive na sya ng Petron. Yung contact with Petron ang humarang sa fuel supply ni hidilyn sa phoenix. Gets??
DeleteKahit kusa binigay sa kanya yung free fuel and walang terms, i think mas maayos talaga na napag usapan lahat dahil meron talagang issue if she will promote another gas company. Choose 1 lang talaga.
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ReplyDeleteKahit walang contract whatsoever w Phoenix, hello naman syempre nakaka ewan yung move nila Hidilyn na mag endorse sa ibang company. Sana pinatigil na lang yung sa Phoenix or pinabigay sa ibang athlete. Common sense at delikadeza na lang ba sana.
Although walang contract or terms & conditions si Phoenix, gets naman natin na ung free lifetime fuel for Hidilyn and her recognizing the donation every year or posting it as a proof, is actually a free advertisement/endorsement for Phoenix. Kumbaga investment ang tawag dun sa part ni Phoenix. And Hidilyn, although walang monetary na narereceive (aside sa 5m incentives noon) eh good as cash naman ung fuel lalo na kung wala naman limit per month o year. Kaso ang ginawa ni Hidilyn, nagendorse ng ibang fuel company making her unable to acknowledge Yung fuel donation ni Phoenix. Kung ikaw din si Phoenix ititigil mo din ung donation although lifetime siya because at the end of the day, as a company every move naman nila is to profit. And be kind natin sa phoenix dahil they did their part naman in 2 years, kaya nga lang it has to end due to contract ni Hidilyn sa ibang company, not because di sila willing ifulfil un. Isipin mo din ikaw Petron, babayaran mo si Hidilyn to endorse you pero ang gasoline is Phoenix (kahit na di niya I post) meron at meron mantsismis na nakaphoenix siya. Ikaw mismo babawasan mo ung endorser mo to use competitor's product. And ikaw si Hidilyn, may libre ka gas from Phoenix and may contract ka sa petron as endorser, Hannah Montana best of both worlds lang ang peg.
ReplyDeleteWhy would you choose money over gas for life??? As if naman wala syang napanalunan na sobrang laking money
ReplyDeleteif the donee commits acts of ingratitude to the donor, the donation may be revoked.
ReplyDeleteNasira yung ‘lifetime supply of fuel’ nya nung pumirma sya ng contract sa Petron. Hindi ang phoenix ang may problema since naibigay ang 5m nya at naka 2yrs sya na supply ng walang aberya. Endorser na sya ng Petron, pumirma sya ng contract. Ginawa syang exclusive sa Petron, ano magagawa ng Phoenix?? Gamitin ang utak!! Pag endorser ka ng certain brand hindi ka na pwede makita sa kalabang brand. Remember Anne Curtis, aksidente nyang nasabi yung slogan ng mcdo, natakot sya. Ganun kay Hidilyn. Endorser sya ng Petron kaya hindi na sya pwede makita na nagpapagas kahit saan kundi breach of contract yun. Kaya sya na mismo ang kusang nagstop ng communication nila ng Phoenix. Anong magagawa ng Phoenix dun???
ReplyDeleteIce doesn’t have a contract with EB, but out of respect, doesn’t guest on other shows with the same time slot as EB. Just saying.
ReplyDeleteang pangit naman talaga na while you are getting free from one company, you are promoting a different competing company. Kahit pa sabihin na hinde sya required ipromote. Ang pangit pa din. Common sense na lang. Im on Phoenix side on this.
ReplyDeleteSi Manager talaga yan. Sana bago pumirma sa Petron ipinaalam muna sa Phoenix na may offer. Delikadeza lang sa nag-support sa training at nagbigay ng P5M cash and lifetime supply nung manalo. Take note sa mga nagsasabing sumakay lang sa kasikatan, alamin nyo muna na kahit di kasing laki ang pangalan ng Phoenix sa ibang gas station, mas matunog pa rin brand nila kaysa sa pangalan ni Hidilyn. Do the math. Sa part naman ng Phoenix, tumupad naman sila. Pero pwedeng respeto nalang din sa isa’t isa ng dalawang petroleum companies, na posibleng magkakaibigan din ang kapwa shareholdrs sa business community, eh meron nag give way. I don’t think Petron will also be that discourteous about just making an offer kung alam nilang hindi pwede or magkakaroon ng legal implications.
ReplyDeleteMasyado lang maraming ebas si Manager. Kung gusto magsalita, sana hindi parang nagpasaring. O Kaya nakipag usap nalang privately.