Hahahha. K powz. Ayan na mga fans dont worry na ha, he just let off some steam... if mr. M is not worried why should you? Tinanong sya kung sila ni ellen pero "i wont answer those speculations" ang sagot. Kala ko ba matured na matanda na bakit pbebe pa din sagot?!
If sa showbiz nga sa Korean, super persecution na ang peg sa mga minor mistakes, errors or accidents ng actors/singers/celebs nila. Sa Pinas showbiz naman, "letting off steam" lang ang explanation.
@12:13 I'm not saying na tama si Mr M sa explanation nya regarding JLC pero yung sa Korean showbiz naman hindi rin maganda. Konting mali ng celeb nila they bow down and apologize. Minsan nga wala namang mali na ginawa pero dahil lang sa hindi nagustuhan ng iba they still apologize. The Koreans celebs lose their freedom to express themselves due to over criticism. Hindi rin maganda.
1:47AM... Hindi rin maganda na yung buhay ng celebrity eh nakasalalay sa opinion ng mga tao to the point na pati paghinga nila controversial na. Mas mabuti nga dito sa Pilipinas eh, at least our celebrities can breathe a little compared sa mga artista sa Korea. Huwag mo masyadong ilagay sa pedestal yung system sa Korean celebrity industry. May mga disadvantages din sila. Try reading more articles about it.
Tsaka ano bang mali sa sagot ni Mr. M? Ang tanda na ni John LLoyd. Let him own up to his mistakes. Marami sa atin dito nag gu-good time din. Unfortunately for JL, brinoadcast sa social media.
@1:09 don't compare Philippine showbiz to Hollywood either. In fact it makes much more sense to compare Philippines to another Asian country like Korea because they are in the same region and share alot of the same traits characteristics. And Hollywood isn't better there have been more celebrity deaths in Hollywood than there has been in korea.so Hollywood is not some thing we should strive to become.its the most toxic environment.
Tingin ko tama ang sagot ni Mr. M. Alangan naman ilaglag niga publicly si JLC? And it's not his relationship to confirm, si Ellen at JLC lang may K gumawa nun. But sana naman kausapin niya si Ellen in private, hindi yung kukunsintihin ung basta bastang pag-upload ng vids at photos na ikakasama ng image ng prime talent nila.
@anon 5:28, totally agree with you. And I believe kakausapin nya not only Ellen, but both of them, in private. Remember, praise publicly, reprimand in privacy. That is more of a press release but I am sure napag sabihan nya yung 2.
9:18 Panakip butas lang si jlc kay baste. Mukhang pinapagselos lang si baste haha mukha namang mas masarap yata mag mahal (wink wink) si baste kesa kay jlc kaya di pa maka get over si girl haha
Ang daming nagsipagreact as if ngayon lang nakakita ng lasing. Paglabas mo nga sa inyo o daming tambay na ganyan. Mga tito nyo di ba ganyan din kapag lasing.
ano ang endorsement nya ha 11:48 wala naman , para sa sakit ng ulo di ba, so kung may hang over sya kapanipaniwala din na iinom sya ng gamot para sa sakit ng ulo. So next, he would probably promote beer or wine ganyan. He's too old to be wholesome.
So now, yung iba naman nakikiride na rin sa pag condone ng bad and potentially dangerous behavior ni John Lloyd. He's a danger to himself, tapos "letting off steam" Lang pala ang tingin ng management. 🤦♂️ Mga walang kwentang tao nakapaligid ka John Lloyd.
Kasama ang image sa milyones na binabayaran kay JLC. Yung mga tambay, walang mawawala kung makita silang lasing. Si JLC, topic na nga ng mga ad agency. Kamusta ang opportunity losses, aber?
He is an actor, a good one. He's of age. Let the guy live his private life. That's already off limits from his persona on screen. Basta ba Wala syang napapahamak na ibang tao hayaan na sya.
12:32 asan ang pagwawala dyan, lashing sya yes, nag videoke sya yes. so ano ang nangyari sa iyo naghanap ba sya ng away na nakaitak sa mga tao dyan. Kayo naman!
Home sweety home ideal father no more, hay paano mo p mapapaniwala viewer, pilit p nman pinapakita ng show n mabuti ama at wala relationship un dalawa,,, this will end the show
T**** kaya nga artista eh, trabaho niya umarte, hindi porket ideal father ang role eh ieexpect mo na ganun siya in real life. Kung kaya niya i-portray ang role niya bilang ideal dad sa show, wala ka na dapat pakialam sa totoong buhay niya. Kaloka
T**** ka rin! Paano pa kami maniniwala sa role nya we know naman na hindi sya ganun. Artista sya oo alam namin. Magaling oo. Alam din naming hindi sya santo. Alam namin na iba siya in real life maka t ka jan kala mo fans ng jd at kn mga fans ni jlc. Kaya nga concerned madami eh. Napaka t **** mo!
Just don't watch his shows, don't buy his endorsements. No more excuses and second chances for this overpaid, overrated laos. He's not the only good actor in the Philippines.
@12:23, Alam mo pala na hindi siya Santo. Alam mo pala na artists siya. Alam mo pala na magaling siya. Eh di dapat kahit ano pang pagwawalwal ang gawin niya sa buhay niya off screen, kung kaya pa rin siyang iportray ng maayos ang pagiging ideal father and husband nya on screen dapat mapapaniwala ka pa din niya kasi nga sabi mo magaling siya. Nasa sa'yo na yun kung kaya mong ihiwalay yung image nya on screen at off screen.
kung concerned ka, sabihan mo sya, pero yung pakialaman mo yung buhay nya and the way he spends his free time, kanya na yan. As long as he delivers his lines properly at hindi lasing, as long as he goes to his shootings na hindi lasing at well prepared, magaling pa rin syang aktor.
Totoo naman kasi. Masyado tayo nakekeelam. Basta ikakasira ng iba big deal satin. Para bang kelangan pagpistahan ang mga ito. Most if us,if not all, experienced getting drunk
Mr M is correct, yung mga artista like JLC, he is also HUMAN , tao din sila at tulad natin nalalasing din kung minsan. They also deserve to be happy. Ibigay natin sa kanya yon. In all fairness, JLC is of age. He is not a kid anymore, if you are a fan just accept him for who he is, hinangaan natin yung kanyang talent bilang artista hindi yung pakialaman natin ang personal nyang buhay.
Kung drink out of happiness go lang pero kung out of depression wag. May kakaiba kasi sa kilos na parang may pinagdadaanan more than happy lang. Remember importante ang health sa lahat, ang body ng tao hindi forever healthy lalo na kung abosado. Life niya yan pero dapat may control din at wag isisi sa kasama kasi kahit sino pwede siyang ivideo.
12:09 these are roles that were given to him, a suspension of disbelief, not his real self. Kaya nga sya artista. 12:18 baka naman nagsasaya lang sila. Pero you're correct na kahit sinong miron pwede talaga syang i post sa socmed. Hindi lang sila Ellen, nagkataon lang yon.
Mas gusto ko makita ung totoong tao sa loob ng isang artista kesa makita ko ung pagkukunwari sa labas ng isang artista. Nagpapakatotoo lang si JLC sa sarili nya. Eh yung mga taong maka bash akala mo holier than thou at nababalot sa pagkukunwari. Oo ikaw yun!
ako ha ang point ko lang is, problema na ni JLC kung pano sya mag enjoy, kung sunog baga sya , let him be. Basta ba dinedeliver nyang maayos ang lines nya ng hindi sya lasing during his shooting. Hindi naman sya naghahamon ng away during shooting, ok lang yon.
Problem po Kasi, pinapakita ninyo n role model siya...dapat ung mga roles niya kontrabida, tomador like Baron, at least Alam n he is not good model s mga bata
his roles should mature, at hindi po sya pambata, katanda na ni JLC, pampa bebe pa rin ba ang peg. Hindi po sya role model sa mga bata, pang matured na ang bentahe dapat sa kanya.
tama, dapat ibahin ang role, mature na, hindi yung pa bebe role ang ibigay sa kanya, parang walang pinagkatandaan. Gawing character actor ganun, evolve.Matured roles na
What you expect? Yes ganyan talaga sabihin ni Mr. M alangan naman mura murahin niya si John Lloyd in a public statement but behind close doors their thinking of how to make him look again kasi isa siya sa mga cash cow ng Star Magic.
Even Hollywood actors go through something. They are human as well. They have flaws and weaknesses. This society is so judgmental and hypocrites. Mind your own business. And let HIM do what he wants. (It's his life anyways)
Nobody discounts the fact that jlc is perfect right? But for the fans who have looked up to jlc (i dont think they are little boys and girls anynore) yung imock ka ni idol masakit yun teh masisi mo ba sila?
this is true 12:08 I'm also a fan of JLC and his personal life is his personal life. as for 12;28 as per his post, malamang napag utusan lang sya ng management to apologize for his actions kaya sarcastic ang dating nya. He knows that his fans are not little boys and girls.Kaya malalim ang sinasabi ng post na yon. He's just trying to be normal, nalasing sila sa beach, naipost , nagkamali ganun lang yon.
Wala naman akong nakitang masama or offending sa videos niya jusko day! ano palagay nyo kay JLC robot? katuwa nga na malaman na ganyan pala siya pag lasing ina-amuse nya lang sarili niya wala siyang pineperwisyo na ibang tao, hindi naman siya nanggugulo so anong pinoproblema ng mga tao dito?
12:35 natawa naman ako seyo! But seriously po, agree nga ako kay 12:13. Tayong mga masang tao ang dapat maging open minded. Kung di natin buhay, wag nang pakialaman at hayaang ang may katawan mismo at ang management nya ang mamoblema.
Matuto nating tanggapin na lahat ng nasa tv ay pawang scripted lang. Separate the actor's profession from his personal life.
Wag na nating problemahin ang endorsements nya. E di wag bilhin o wag tangkilikin. Pero wag naman tayong judgemental.
1:11 agree ako dyan, lalo na sa mga tulad ni JLC matanda na para mapagsabihan. Anong pakialam na natin sa personal nyang buhay o kung magiinom sila? fans lang tayo tiga nood ng pelikula at mga palabas sa tv. Yung nasa tv at yung totoong tao magkaiba. Kaya nga sila artista.
1:11 true besh, problema nya na talaga yon kasi matanda na sya at tumanda na sya sa showbiz so alam na nya ang kalakaran. Nag enjoy yung tao, nag leak sa soc med, sila ng bahala don
i don't see anything wrong with his actions, lahat naman ata tayo tumoma at nag good time. Ang masama ay yung nag-post, paepal masyado, di na nag-isip. Na-excite yata masyado na naka-jamming nya ang isang jlc. That was a bit irresponsible Ateng!
ok naman po yung mga concern na ganyan opinion nyo naman po yan. Pero sila baka nag eenjoy lang din naman sila kaya naglashing sa beach. Hindi naman yan gabi gabi.
Please lang mga Baks hwag i-compare si JLC kay Robert Downey Jr. Malaking insulto yan kay Downey kasi yun taong yan is a recovering addict and alcoholic meaning nagparehab na po sya. He has been sober for several years, hindi na sya umiinom ng kahit anong alcoholic beverage. Downey has a program that he follows to the best of his ability every day para hindi na sya bumalik sa pagkawalwal nya. Kaya nya nakuha yun role na Iron Man at Sherlock Holmes is because inayos nya yun buhay at sarili nya. So it's not true that as long as a person delivers professionally they have license to do whatever they want in their personal lives without any limit. Sooner or later lahat magugulo din yan.
Honey, I don't think Mr. Robert Downey Jr will find it insulting. I think he will be flattered na gawin syang role model for someone like JLC. Wala namang masama kung i-wish ng mga fans kung maging inspiration sya ni JLC. It took a long time for RD to take his rehab seriously. Labas masok sya sa rehab before he realized na he really needs it.
You misunderstand me. I read the previous comments and ang alam ng iba is that Robert Downey is still drinking, na ganun pa din sya. He hasn't been for a long time. It's not here in this article but in another one that's been posted regarding JLC's beach antics.
Nag enjoy lang nmn normal lang namn ung mapainom ng marami importante di nmn nambugbog or nanakit ng ibang tao, nag sayaw sayaw lang nmn si JLC tpos nakatulog na kasi sobrang lasing
Let him live his life! D nmn bago yan, sus! At mas concern p kau sa career nya, e bhla na mgmt sa knya. Besides, it's his private time so wag gwin isyu kung nageenjoy ung tao.
12:38!sus let us comment what we want na lang! Dami mo sinabi eh data ko naman ginagamit ko pagcomment dito at pagpost. Wag mong gawing isyung personal ang pagbibigay komento ng mga tao. Mas concern ka pa sa concerns namin.
Anon 12:38 hamo na. Some people are lost on the fact na kaya nga naging open to comments and all dahil sa pag post na yun sa social media. Para lang yang news item sa newspaper nung wala pang soc med. Kung me nabasa kang ayaw mo or express an opposing opinion write ka ng letter to the editor. The editor gets to decide whether or not to publish it. Eh sa soc med wala. Tuloy tuloy lang ang reaction ng mga tao about the public post. Eh public yung nag post di private. It's his private time posted in a public account. Sana kinandado nila yung account.
12:48 d nmn ung pagkoment mo bes ang tinutukoy nya. Ung nega comment kah jlc bes, wag lumihis sa topic. This page is open for comments kya natural magkokoment kung cno magkoment.
Kaya ang lalaki ng ulo ng mga taga star magic eh pinagtatakpan pa kasi ang mali ng mga artista nila instead na wag i-tolerate. Mr. M should learn from Mr. T
Sino kaya ang nag-approved na mag work ng 18 hrs ang talents nyo? di ba kayo rin tapos letting off some steam ang drama nyo. ABUSIVE kayo sa taping hours kaya laklak din pag may time. tsk!
Anon 1:22 dapat talaga ma-report sila it doesn't matter kung ano ang network. Grabeng abuso ang ginagawa nila sa talents. 12 hrs na work nga lang, lupaypay ka na eh 18 hrs pa kaya.
It's all fun and games for him right now but he'll suffer the consequences when he's getting older. Ano na kaya mukha ng liver niya, its been noted na even in his younger years alcoholic na siya.
Ang artista, mga tao din mga yan. Nasanay kasi mga viewers sa mga pa wholesome image na gustong ipakita ng mga management nila. Mas grabe pang malasing at mag trip ang mga artista kesa sa ordinary citizen. Hayaan na lang kasi sila, mag happy at mag paka totoo pa minsan2. Kung sino pa yung akala nyo matino sa mga alaga ng dos, yan pa ang mas malala, pag naka wala sa hawla...
Wala naman problema mag walwal si JLC every now and then, hindi na lang dapat pinost ang mga pics at videos niya. Sa akin man gawin ito, magagalit ako sa nag post sa social media.
"He will have learned his lesson and be more careful in the future." OUCH. Bet JLC got an earbashing from the higher ups! Wonder what will happen to his and Ellen's budding relationship! What will it be, JLC? Fame or love? hahahahahaha! *grabs popcorn*
Hay sb p nman nya s commercial Ingat! Sya d ng ingat s sobrang kalasengan nahiwa n daliri, d ng ingat na i post n ng mga frnds n adarna, gamit n gamit s jlc, Ingat!
That video just showed what the real jlc is off cam. Nothing wrong with getting drunk since matanda na nga naman si jlc. He knows what's right from wrong and as long as he doesn't hurt anyone he can get drunk everyday. Ang hindi ok is someone recording and sharing those moments na wala ka sa matinong pagiisip mo & kung ano ano nang ginagawa mo. His so called friends made him a laughingstock by sharing these drunk videos. Kahit naman hindi celebrity hindi rin matutuwa if his drunk videos were made public socially.
I think beh lalabas at lalabas ito , magleak kung talagang bisyo nya yan. kasi anybody can just post, pwedeng mga miron or mga tambay i video sya then post.
It's not tolerating, it's actually a warning from Mr. M, if you read between the lines : "He will have learned his lesson and be more careful in the future."
Usually mga minions lang ni Mr.M ang nakatalaga sa damage control. The fact na si Mr.M mismo ang nagsalita eh matindi ang isyu na alcoholic nga si JLC.
This is ABS protecting their prized talent and this is all part of the business. We cannot dictate how JLC lives his life, it's his life and his choices. The best we can do is to hope that he keeps his private life discreet and that he chooses better company.
Daming malinis. Ganyan din itsura ko pag basag. Mga baks di pa ba kayo nababasag sa alak? Karamihan dito yung totoo di pa kayo nakatikim ng kahit anong downers?
Baks past 30 ka na ba? Kung malayo ka pa dun, good for you. Pero kung lagpas 30 na at nagwawalwal pa eh parang generally accepted na yun sa society as pathetic.
I don't understand what the big fuss is about? He wasn't belligerent at work. For as long as he comes to work prepared and acts professionally, what he does outside work doesn't concern us.
Agree 1132. Others are just concerned kaso minsan self righteous na. Subukan mo sitahin lahat ng taong nagcoent sa sarili nilang pagkakamali magiiba yan. Daming time mangpuna e ang sarili hindi naman din perfect.
Yes. JLC is a public figure. Yes, he has an image to protect. Yes, he has endorsement contracts to follow.
BUT he is also a normal human being, who wants to have fun, unwind and be crazy. Let's not forget that he also feels exhausted, sad or maybe depressed and drained. His going to the Beach with friends is not a crime.
What could have been a private escapade, became an issue because of some incondiderate people. Fame wh*res didn't care enough to filter what they uploaded. They didn't think wisely that their uploaded photos & videos could hurt JLC's image & Contracts.
Maiinis sana ako kay Lloydie pero narealize ko personal niyang buhay yan. Hindi naman siya ganyan sa trabaho at dapat wala ng pakialam ang tao kung ano siya with his friends. Pagsabihan na lang niya yang nagvideo, di mapapagkatiwalaan yang ganyang mga tao.
The image these Artists are projecting is the exact opposite of their real self.Masyado kasing pa goody kaya tuloy nakaka bwiset kapag nakita mong put on lang pala ang lahat. To Star Magic,for once tigilan n'yo ang pagkunsinti at pagtatakip.
Of course, J Manahan would defend JLC as most managers would when people attack their talents. People can be too self righteous for their own good. Before passing quick judgment, just a reminder that those people like JLC are actors not the character they portray. Showbiz is make believe. And if you believed, you were convinced that the actor is a good one. Whatever he does in his downtime is not any of our business but his. So long as he has not caused any harm/damage against anyone, what is there to complain about?
ito talaga yung dapat sabihan na papansin at parelevant eh. hindi naman bagong actor si JLC at matagal na sya sa showbiz. alam na nya ang kapalit ng mga ganyan pagpapakita sa public. dati naman hindi sya ganyan. so is he still trusting ellen and company sa nangyri? wag na kami lokohin. malamang nalalaos na talaga si JLC at di nya matanggap na kalevel sya ni empoy.
Hahahha. K powz. Ayan na mga fans dont worry na ha, he just let off some steam... if mr. M is not worried why should you? Tinanong sya kung sila ni ellen pero "i wont answer those speculations" ang sagot. Kala ko ba matured na matanda na bakit pbebe pa din sagot?!
ReplyDeleteBakit siya ang sasagot. Kasali ba siya sa relasyon nung dalawa? Yung 2 lang ang pede sumagot kung sila na.
DeleteIf sa showbiz nga sa Korean, super persecution na ang peg sa mga minor mistakes, errors or accidents ng actors/singers/celebs nila. Sa Pinas showbiz naman, "letting off steam" lang ang explanation.
DeletePabebe pa e napapanot na nga
DeleteKUNSINTIDOR KA MR. M!
Delete12:39 truth. Pano kaya sa star magic ball at magkasama na naman sila ni ellen his baby?! Ahahaha abangan ko paglet off nya ng steam dun hik hik
Delete@12:13 I'm not saying na tama si Mr M sa explanation nya regarding JLC pero yung sa Korean showbiz naman hindi rin maganda. Konting mali ng celeb nila they bow down and apologize. Minsan nga wala namang mali na ginawa pero dahil lang sa hindi nagustuhan ng iba they still apologize. The Koreans celebs lose their freedom to express themselves due to over criticism. Hindi rin maganda.
DeleteBakit ba ang hilig hilig nyo icompara ang korean eh nasa pilipinas tayo.. Jusmeo!
DeleteParang nakaka bawas Lang ng respeto kay Mr. M. Ganyan pala patakbo nila sa Star Magic.
Delete1:09am, jusmiyo besh. It's the discipline, respect and attitude sa showbiz and entertainment industry nila. Yan ang wala sa Pinoy showbiz.
DeleteFeeling entitled ang mga young stars-starlets-macro starlets sa Pinoy showbiz. Bastusan ang peg, walang moral values kahit 2017 na.
Di kaya ng Star Magic pagalitan sya kse malaking pera ang inaakyat nya. Kung maliit na artista lang yan, tsugi na yan sa SM.
DeleteAnd he better reprimand Ellen Adarna and her social climbing friends too.
DeleteAnd he better reprimand Ellen Adarna and her social climbing friends too.
Delete1:47AM... Hindi rin maganda na yung buhay ng celebrity eh nakasalalay sa opinion ng mga tao to the point na pati paghinga nila controversial na. Mas mabuti nga dito sa Pilipinas eh, at least our celebrities can breathe a little compared sa mga artista sa Korea. Huwag mo masyadong ilagay sa pedestal yung system sa Korean celebrity industry. May mga disadvantages din sila. Try reading more articles about it.
DeleteTsaka ano bang mali sa sagot ni Mr. M? Ang tanda na ni John LLoyd. Let him own up to his mistakes. Marami sa atin dito nag gu-good time din. Unfortunately for JL, brinoadcast sa social media.
@1:09 don't compare Philippine showbiz to Hollywood either. In fact it makes much more sense to compare Philippines to another Asian country like Korea because they are in the same region and share alot of the same traits characteristics. And Hollywood isn't better there have been more celebrity deaths in Hollywood than there has been in korea.so Hollywood is not some thing we should strive to become.its the most toxic environment.
DeleteTingin ko tama ang sagot ni Mr. M. Alangan naman ilaglag niga publicly si JLC? And it's not his relationship to confirm, si Ellen at JLC lang may K gumawa nun. But sana naman kausapin niya si Ellen in private, hindi yung kukunsintihin ung basta bastang pag-upload ng vids at photos na ikakasama ng image ng prime talent nila.
Delete@anon 5:28, totally agree with you. And I believe kakausapin nya not only Ellen, but both of them, in private. Remember, praise publicly, reprimand in privacy. That is more of a press release but I am sure napag sabihan nya yung 2.
DeleteKunsintidor! Wala kang kwenta Kunsintidor Manahan!
DeleteI hope E and her friends will learn their lesson too. Hindi lahat pino-post sa media. Tsk
ReplyDeleteStarstruck kay JLC gusto na lang ipangalandakan na kasama at kainuman pa nila
DeleteTuwang tuwa sila masyado na nagka friend sila ng sikat hahaha!
DeleteBad dito yung mga friends ni Ellen na nag upload ng videos. Maski sinong tao, hindi matutuwa pag ginawa ito sa kanila once nahimasmasan na.
DeleteAgree ako sa yo 11:48 and 12:52~!
DeleteNag cringe ako nung narining ko yung beks na nagvivideo habang nag hihiwa ng sibuyas si jlc. Pabebe! Halatang pa cute kay jlc! 😂😂😂
DeletePwede din na pinagseselos si duterte
Delete9:18 Panakip butas lang si jlc kay baste. Mukhang pinapagselos lang si baste haha mukha namang mas masarap yata mag mahal (wink wink) si baste kesa kay jlc kaya di pa maka get over si girl haha
DeleteGanyan talaga, mga starstruck pa ang mga friends kaya todo upload ng moments with jlc... mga hindi nag-isip.
Deleteginagalingan pa rin ang damage control.it seems anne curtis was right years ago in what she said.sad. but this is business so business as usual.
ReplyDeletethis can be an opportunity to learn something from it
DeleteAng daming nagsipagreact as if ngayon lang nakakita ng lasing. Paglabas mo nga sa inyo o daming tambay na ganyan. Mga tito nyo di ba ganyan din kapag lasing.
ReplyDeleteYes naman... Kaya lang mga tito namin wala namang produktong iniendorse di gaya ni John Lloyd
Delete11:35PM, difference sa lahat ng lasing kay JLC? Artista si JLC with endorsements, moral clause and image to protect. Ok na?
DeleteTambay sila baks, JLC is an actor idolized by millions.
Deleteano ang endorsement nya ha 11:48 wala naman , para sa sakit ng ulo di ba, so kung may hang over sya kapanipaniwala din na iinom sya ng gamot para sa sakit ng ulo. So next, he would probably promote beer or wine ganyan. He's too old to be wholesome.
Delete11:35, icompare ba ang mga tambay na walang career kay jlc na nagttrabaho at inalagaan ang image nia for almost 20yrs? LOL
Deleteidolized by millions na matatanda na, I'm sure they grew up with him. Hindi ito pambata. Kumbaga pang rated PG na ang kanyang imahe.
DeleteKasi sooner or later tambay na lang din si jlc! Hahahaha
DeleteBaks sabi nga ni Spider Man "with great power comes great responsiblity" 😉 Gets mo?
DeleteSo now, yung iba naman nakikiride na rin sa pag condone ng bad and potentially dangerous behavior ni John Lloyd. He's a danger to himself, tapos "letting off steam" Lang pala ang tingin ng management. 🤦♂️ Mga walang kwentang tao nakapaligid ka John Lloyd.
Deletehindi nyo rin pwedeng diktahan si JLC kung sino ang gusto nyang mga kaibigan. Choice nya yon. Matanda na sila. Ano sila robot ng management.
DeleteKasama ang image sa milyones na binabayaran kay JLC. Yung mga tambay, walang mawawala kung makita silang lasing. Si JLC, topic na nga ng mga ad agency. Kamusta ang opportunity losses, aber?
DeleteHe is an actor, a good one. He's of age. Let the guy live his private life. That's already off limits from his persona on screen. Basta ba Wala syang napapahamak na ibang tao hayaan na sya.
ReplyDeletetama! matanda na sya at matanda na rin ang mga fans nya
DeleteBut it was made public
DeleteWala pa naipapahamak na iba teh. What about yung mga naunang insidente nya ng pagwawala?
Delete@12:22, was he the one who made it public?
DeleteDi ba yung friends nya?
Delete12:32 asan ang pagwawala dyan, lashing sya yes, nag videoke sya yes. so ano ang nangyari sa iyo naghanap ba sya ng away na nakaitak sa mga tao dyan. Kayo naman!
DeleteDamage control is real .
ReplyDeleteSyemps, JLC pa rin siya.
DeleteHome sweety home ideal father no more, hay paano mo p mapapaniwala viewer, pilit p nman pinapakita ng show n mabuti ama at wala relationship un dalawa,,, this will end the show
ReplyDeleteT**** kaya nga artista eh, trabaho niya umarte, hindi porket ideal father ang role eh ieexpect mo na ganun siya in real life. Kung kaya niya i-portray ang role niya bilang ideal dad sa show, wala ka na dapat pakialam sa totoong buhay niya. Kaloka
DeleteT**** ka rin! Paano pa kami maniniwala sa role nya we know naman na hindi sya ganun. Artista sya oo alam namin. Magaling oo. Alam din naming hindi sya santo. Alam namin na iba siya in real life maka t ka jan kala mo fans ng jd at kn mga fans ni jlc. Kaya nga concerned madami eh. Napaka t **** mo!
DeleteTrigerred ka 12:09?! Hahaha mas apektado ka pa kesa kay mr m! Bwahahahha
DeleteJust don't watch his shows, don't buy his endorsements. No more excuses and second chances for this overpaid, overrated laos. He's not the only good actor in the Philippines.
DeleteHis shows are not reality shows, so if you feel like he is not acting the way he acts in his shows, bad news for you, he's an effing ACTOR!
Delete@12:23, Alam mo pala na hindi siya Santo. Alam mo pala na artists siya. Alam mo pala na magaling siya. Eh di dapat kahit ano pang pagwawalwal ang gawin niya sa buhay niya off screen, kung kaya pa rin siyang iportray ng maayos ang pagiging ideal father and husband nya on screen dapat mapapaniwala ka pa din niya kasi nga sabi mo magaling siya. Nasa sa'yo na yun kung kaya mong ihiwalay yung image nya on screen at off screen.
Deletekung concerned ka, sabihan mo sya, pero yung pakialaman mo yung buhay nya and the way he spends his free time, kanya na yan. As long as he delivers his lines properly at hindi lasing, as long as he goes to his shootings na hindi lasing at well prepared, magaling pa rin syang aktor.
DeleteDirty finger pa more!lol
ReplyDeleteTotoo naman kasi. Masyado tayo nakekeelam. Basta ikakasira ng iba big deal satin. Para bang kelangan pagpistahan ang mga ito. Most if us,if not all, experienced getting drunk
ReplyDeletetrue, parang nakakita tayo ng mga lasing sa beach tapos nangengealam tayo sa trip nila. Walang basagan ng trip.lalo na kung matatanda na yang mga yan.
DeleteI agree..let them..as long na wala clang gngawang masama sa kapwa nila..let him learned his lesson..lets spread love not hate guys!
ReplyDeletetrue, and matanda na yang si JLC alam na nya ginagawa nya
DeleteAyun naman pala 12:13 pero bakit sya nagsorry?!
Deletenakita mo ba sarcastic ang pag sorry nya. basa basa ka rin pag may time
DeleteOo matanda na si jlc pero immature! Wahahahahha
Deleteproblema na nya yon, hindi sayo 12:50
DeleteMr M is correct, yung mga artista like JLC, he is also HUMAN , tao din sila at tulad natin nalalasing din kung minsan. They also deserve to be happy. Ibigay natin sa kanya yon. In all fairness, JLC is of age. He is not a kid anymore, if you are a fan just accept him for who he is, hinangaan natin yung kanyang talent bilang artista hindi yung pakialaman natin ang personal nyang buhay.
ReplyDeleteYup he's far from the roles he portray talaga especially yung serye nila ni toni. So im not sure if convinced ako na manood nun pa.
DeleteKaso te its not minsan lang eh.
DeleteKung drink out of happiness go lang pero kung out of depression wag. May kakaiba kasi sa kilos na parang may pinagdadaanan more than happy lang. Remember importante ang health sa lahat, ang body ng tao hindi forever healthy lalo na kung abosado. Life niya yan pero dapat may control din at wag isisi sa kasama kasi kahit sino pwede siyang ivideo.
Delete12:09 these are roles that were given to him, a suspension of disbelief, not his real self. Kaya nga sya artista. 12:18 baka naman nagsasaya lang sila. Pero you're correct na kahit sinong miron pwede talaga syang i post sa socmed. Hindi lang sila Ellen, nagkataon lang yon.
DeleteMas gusto ko makita ung totoong tao sa loob ng isang artista kesa makita ko ung pagkukunwari sa labas ng isang artista. Nagpapakatotoo lang si JLC sa sarili nya. Eh yung mga taong maka bash akala mo holier than thou at nababalot sa pagkukunwari. Oo ikaw yun!
Deleteako ha ang point ko lang is, problema na ni JLC kung pano sya mag enjoy, kung sunog baga sya , let him be. Basta ba dinedeliver nyang maayos ang lines nya ng hindi sya lasing during his shooting. Hindi naman sya naghahamon ng away during shooting, ok lang yon.
DeleteProblem po Kasi, pinapakita ninyo n role model siya...dapat ung mga roles niya kontrabida, tomador like Baron, at least Alam n he is not good model s mga bata
ReplyDeleteWow! Galing ng takbo ng isip mo
Deletehis roles should mature, at hindi po sya pambata, katanda na ni JLC, pampa bebe pa rin ba ang peg. Hindi po sya role model sa mga bata, pang matured na ang bentahe dapat sa kanya.
Deletetrue they made him look like a fraud
DeleteKitid utak Anon 11:49AM. Kaya nga artista di ba?
DeleteSo yung may mga role na "bayaran" sa pelikula/serye bayarin din dapat sa totoong buhay?
Wala tayong pakialam sa mga [personal na buhay ng mgan hinahangaan nating aktor. Kung pagdating sa pag arte nila ang may mali, dun tayo mag-complain.
tama, dapat ibahin ang role, mature na, hindi yung pa bebe role ang ibigay sa kanya, parang walang pinagkatandaan. Gawing character actor ganun, evolve.Matured roles na
DeleteMay maturity ka bang nakita sa pagwalwal sa cebu?
DeletePanot na at matanda si jlc pero yolo pa din.
Deletewala kaming pakialam kung magwalwal sya hanggat gusto nya.
DeleteWhat you expect? Yes ganyan talaga sabihin ni Mr. M alangan naman mura murahin niya si John Lloyd in a public statement but behind close doors their thinking of how to make him look again kasi isa siya sa mga cash cow ng Star Magic.
ReplyDeleteExactly!
DeleteNormal lang malasing.. pero ung tumabi sa gasul hahahahha iba ka lloydie kacute mo dun
ReplyDeletebuhay nya yan, buhay din yon ng gasul wag mo pakialaman
Deleteyung gasul nag post sa socmed. famewhore ang gasul.
DeleteNangelam ba?! Pinatabi ba nya si lloydie sa gasul? Pinapili ng kulay ng tangke? Triggered ka masyado te.
Deleteano ba problema ng pagtabi ni JLC sa gasul? gusto ba nyang pasabugin ito?! ngengealam
Delete12:48 would you yourself slouch down near tanks of gas for a picture ?
Deletelasing sya di ba, he didn't take a selfie. Somebody took his photo.
Deletetrip nya yon dahil nga lashing sya 11:28
DeleteIlang weeks, buwan, o taon kaya sila aabot?????
ReplyDeleteHuwag ng pagtakpan bata pa lasenggo na yan
ReplyDeleteTama.as f naman ngayon lng yan uminm
DeleteEven Hollywood actors go through something. They are human as well. They have flaws and weaknesses. This society is so judgmental and hypocrites. Mind your own business. And let HIM do what he wants. (It's his life anyways)
ReplyDeleteNobody discounts the fact that jlc is perfect right? But for the fans who have looked up to jlc (i dont think they are little boys and girls anynore) yung imock ka ni idol masakit yun teh masisi mo ba sila?
Deletethis is true 12:08 I'm also a fan of JLC and his personal life is his personal life. as for 12;28 as per his post, malamang napag utusan lang sya ng management to apologize for his actions kaya sarcastic ang dating nya. He knows that his fans are not little boys and girls.Kaya malalim ang sinasabi ng post na yon. He's just trying to be normal, nalasing sila sa beach, naipost , nagkamali ganun lang yon.
DeleteHindi na dapat kasi pinost ang mga ganitong videos and pics. Walang kuwentang tao mga kasama ni JLC dito.
DeleteDamage control
ReplyDeleteDati napapagtakpan nila ngayon nakalampas sa ka nila kaya todo explain. Wag kame
ReplyDeleteWala naman akong nakitang masama or offending sa videos niya jusko day! ano palagay nyo kay JLC robot? katuwa nga na malaman na ganyan pala siya pag lasing ina-amuse nya lang sarili niya wala siyang pineperwisyo na ibang tao, hindi naman siya nanggugulo so anong pinoproblema ng mga tao dito?
ReplyDeleteMasama daw sa endorsements niya
DeleteIkaw talaga ang problema 12:13. kasi sobrang affected ka. Si jlc nga at si mr m hindi eh.
DeleteActually proven ng science na nakakapanot ang pagwalwal
Delete12:35 natawa naman ako seyo!
DeleteBut seriously po, agree nga ako kay 12:13. Tayong mga masang tao ang dapat maging open minded. Kung di natin buhay, wag nang pakialaman at hayaang ang may katawan mismo at ang management nya ang mamoblema.
Matuto nating tanggapin na lahat ng nasa tv ay pawang scripted lang. Separate the actor's profession from his personal life.
Wag na nating problemahin ang endorsements nya. E di wag bilhin o wag tangkilikin. Pero wag naman tayong judgemental.
1:11 agree ako dyan, lalo na sa mga tulad ni JLC matanda na para mapagsabihan. Anong pakialam na natin sa personal nyang buhay o kung magiinom sila? fans lang tayo tiga nood ng pelikula at mga palabas sa tv. Yung nasa tv at yung totoong tao magkaiba. Kaya nga sila artista.
Delete1:11 true besh, problema nya na talaga yon kasi matanda na sya at tumanda na sya sa showbiz so alam na nya ang kalakaran. Nag enjoy yung tao, nag leak sa soc med, sila ng bahala don
DeleteYung Home Sweet Home magiging Home Hik Home
ReplyDeletenapa literal na LOL ako all the way from Long Island, NY
Deletei don't see anything wrong with his actions, lahat naman ata tayo tumoma at nag good time. Ang masama ay yung nag-post, paepal masyado, di na nag-isip. Na-excite yata masyado na naka-jamming nya ang isang jlc. That was a bit irresponsible Ateng!
ReplyDeletenag inom inom din tayo sa beach, kung nandyan din tayo baka ka toma natin yang sila JLC
DeleteWalwal naman talaga sa totoo lang.
ReplyDeleteTo me, JLC is an excellent actor. I don't care what he does in his personal time as long as it's not criminal or abusive.
ReplyDeleteHis so-called friends who keep on posting stuff that are not supposed to be public - yan ang mga walang kwentang tao/kaibigan.
yes, as a fan wala akong pakialam kung ano ang gawin nya matanda na sya, may sariling isip na
DeleteSana marealize nya na masama sa health ang bisyo. Ako tumigil sa paginom nung 69 ako. Last week I celebrated my 70th bday. Good & clean living.
ReplyDeleteHappy Birthday
Deleteok naman po yung mga concern na ganyan opinion nyo naman po yan. Pero sila baka nag eenjoy lang din naman sila kaya naglashing sa beach. Hindi naman yan gabi gabi.
Deletehappy for you po!
DeleteTumigil ka nga, pero ilang yirs kang uminom?. Sa akala mo ba, malinis mga organs mo? @12:28
DeletePlease lang mga Baks hwag i-compare si JLC kay Robert Downey Jr. Malaking insulto yan kay Downey kasi yun taong yan is a recovering addict and alcoholic meaning nagparehab na po sya. He has been sober for several years, hindi na sya umiinom ng kahit anong alcoholic beverage. Downey has a program that he follows to the best of his ability every day para hindi na sya bumalik sa pagkawalwal nya. Kaya nya nakuha yun role na Iron Man at Sherlock Holmes is because inayos nya yun buhay at sarili nya. So it's not true that as long as a person delivers professionally they have license to do whatever they want in their personal lives without any limit. Sooner or later lahat magugulo din yan.
ReplyDeleteHoney, I don't think Mr. Robert Downey Jr will find it insulting. I think he will be flattered na gawin syang role model for someone like JLC. Wala namang masama kung i-wish ng mga fans kung maging inspiration sya ni JLC. It took a long time for RD to take his rehab seriously. Labas masok sya sa rehab before he realized na he really needs it.
DeleteYou misunderstand me. I read the previous comments and ang alam ng iba is that Robert Downey is still drinking, na ganun pa din sya. He hasn't been for a long time. It's not here in this article but in another one that's been posted regarding JLC's beach antics.
DeleteNag enjoy lang nmn normal lang namn ung mapainom ng marami importante di nmn nambugbog or nanakit ng ibang tao, nag sayaw sayaw lang nmn si JLC tpos nakatulog na kasi sobrang lasing
ReplyDeletesayaw with F you, Who does F you signs ? He has some anger for the world.
Delete11:45 we cant control his actions, we were not there. Kung nag eenjoy sila,nalasing sila, then that's their right.
Deletehow do we know that?11:45 baka ganun lang sya sumayaw pag lasing sya.
DeleteLet him live his life! D nmn bago yan, sus! At mas concern p kau sa career nya, e bhla na mgmt sa knya. Besides, it's his private time so wag gwin isyu kung nageenjoy ung tao.
ReplyDelete12:38!sus let us comment what we want na lang! Dami mo sinabi eh data ko naman ginagamit ko pagcomment dito at pagpost. Wag mong gawing isyung personal ang pagbibigay komento ng mga tao. Mas concern ka pa sa concerns namin.
DeleteAnon 12:38 hamo na. Some people are lost on the fact na kaya nga naging open to comments and all dahil sa pag post na yun sa social media. Para lang yang news item sa newspaper nung wala pang soc med. Kung me nabasa kang ayaw mo or express an opposing opinion write ka ng letter to the editor. The editor gets to decide whether or not to publish it. Eh sa soc med wala. Tuloy tuloy lang ang reaction ng mga tao about the public post. Eh public yung nag post di private. It's his private time posted in a public account. Sana kinandado nila yung account.
Delete12:48 d nmn ung pagkoment mo bes ang tinutukoy nya. Ung nega comment kah jlc bes, wag lumihis sa topic. This page is open for comments kya natural magkokoment kung cno magkoment.
Delete12:48 the guy has the right to also comment in this thread. Kanya kanyang opinion yan.
DeleteKaya ang lalaki ng ulo ng mga taga star magic eh pinagtatakpan pa kasi ang mali ng mga artista nila instead na wag i-tolerate. Mr. M should learn from Mr. T
ReplyDeletedios mio! konsintidor pa ang management.
ReplyDeleteSino kaya ang nag-approved na mag work ng 18 hrs ang talents nyo? di ba kayo rin tapos letting off some steam ang drama nyo. ABUSIVE kayo sa taping hours kaya laklak din pag may time. tsk!
ReplyDeletenaku baka ma reklamo sila sa department of labor and employment niyan. gagawa na lang ng damage control baka sumabit pa.
DeleteAnon 1:22 dapat talaga ma-report sila it doesn't matter kung ano ang network. Grabeng abuso ang ginagawa nila sa talents. 12 hrs na work nga lang, lupaypay ka na eh 18 hrs pa kaya.
DeleteTRUE! lol damage control na wala sa lugar!
DeleteKaya pala inatake sa puso ang isang direktor nila... yon pala, STRESSED...
Delete18 hours ba talaga? Everyday?! Eh Sunday nalang naman ang show niya...
DeleteIt's all fun and games for him right now but he'll suffer the consequences when he's getting older. Ano na kaya mukha ng liver niya, its been noted na even in his younger years alcoholic na siya.
ReplyDeletelet him be
Deletelet him be, he knows the consequences of his actions. Matagal na syang showbiz at matanda na
DeleteBe careful daw next time mr cruz kasi baka sa susunod sila na mismo ang mag sawa sa pag damage control sa mga ginagawa mo.
ReplyDeletei support jlc. just be happy like jake cyrus. do whatever that will float ur boat 🤣🤣🤣
ReplyDeleteAng artista, mga tao din mga yan. Nasanay kasi mga viewers sa mga pa wholesome image na gustong ipakita ng mga management nila. Mas grabe pang malasing at mag trip ang mga artista kesa sa ordinary citizen. Hayaan na lang kasi sila, mag happy at mag paka totoo pa minsan2. Kung sino pa yung akala nyo matino sa mga alaga ng dos, yan pa ang mas malala, pag naka wala sa hawla...
ReplyDeleteWala naman problema mag walwal si JLC every now and then, hindi na lang dapat pinost ang mga pics at videos niya. Sa akin man gawin ito, magagalit ako sa nag post sa social media.
ReplyDeletekahit naman sinong lets say miron or tambay can just take a video of him and post
DeleteI don't think he did anything wrong.. but whatever it is, I'm glad that he owned it.
ReplyDeletebecause it's on video and can't be denied. solution is damage control
Delete"He will have learned his lesson and be more careful in the future." OUCH. Bet JLC got an earbashing from the higher ups! Wonder what will happen to his and Ellen's budding relationship! What will it be, JLC? Fame or love? hahahahahaha! *grabs popcorn*
ReplyDeleteHay sb p nman nya s commercial Ingat! Sya d ng ingat s sobrang kalasengan nahiwa n daliri, d ng ingat na i post n ng mga frnds n adarna, gamit n gamit s jlc, Ingat!
ReplyDeletebagay nga eh, sumakit ulo nya kasi nagka hang over. so uminom sya ng gamot
DeleteThat video just showed what the real jlc is off cam. Nothing wrong with getting drunk since matanda na nga naman si jlc. He knows what's right from wrong and as long as he doesn't hurt anyone he can get drunk everyday. Ang hindi ok is someone recording and sharing those moments na wala ka sa matinong pagiisip mo & kung ano ano nang ginagawa mo. His so called friends made him a laughingstock by sharing these drunk videos. Kahit naman hindi celebrity hindi rin matutuwa if his drunk videos were made public socially.
ReplyDeleteexactly.
DeleteI think beh lalabas at lalabas ito , magleak kung talagang bisyo nya yan. kasi anybody can just post, pwedeng mga miron or mga tambay i video sya then post.
DeleteEllen and her friends are one and the same. Fame whores.
ReplyDeleteTrue. Ellen and friends are bad influences.
DeletePress release lang yan. Alangan naman pagalitan si jlc in public.
ReplyDeleteMismo! For sure nasabon yan.
DeletePwede naman mag enjoy. Mali lang napost pa yung video kasi he has a 'good image' to protect.
ReplyDeleteIt's not tolerating, it's actually a warning from Mr. M, if you read between the lines : "He will have learned his lesson and be more careful in the future."
ReplyDeleteTama! Napagalitan na yan at alangan sabihin nila in public.
DeleteUsually mga minions lang ni Mr.M ang nakatalaga sa damage control. The fact na si Mr.M mismo ang nagsalita eh matindi ang isyu na alcoholic nga si JLC.
ReplyDeleteTagal na, hindi lang bulgaran until nag post ang friends ni ibon.
DeleteThis is ABS protecting their prized talent and this is all part of the business. We cannot dictate how JLC lives his life, it's his life and his choices. The best we can do is to hope that he keeps his private life discreet and that he chooses better company.
ReplyDeleteAgree!
DeleteAyan pala ang strategy ng ABS, sisihin ang mga netizens
DeleteDrinking is a way to have fun? Ok, but in the daytime ??? Ang tawag dyan rationalization Mr M.
ReplyDeleteDaming malinis. Ganyan din itsura ko pag basag. Mga baks di pa ba kayo nababasag sa alak? Karamihan dito yung totoo di pa kayo nakatikim ng kahit anong downers?
ReplyDeleteBaks past 30 ka na ba? Kung malayo ka pa dun, good for you. Pero kung lagpas 30 na at nagwawalwal pa eh parang generally accepted na yun sa society as pathetic.
Deletepast 30 na ako , and I drink occasionally pampatanggal stress with my friends, sa beach. So ano naman ngayon, enjoy lang.
Delete2:25 ang kaibahan, walang may pakialam sayo, si JL madaming fans at may image n inaalagaan.
DeleteI don't understand what the big fuss is about? He wasn't belligerent at work. For as long as he comes to work prepared and acts professionally, what he does outside work doesn't concern us.
ReplyDeleteI agree but the thing is he is getting ugly and his body is suffering too. You are right, we should not care. It's his livelihood not ours.
DeleteAgree 1132. Others are just concerned kaso minsan self righteous na. Subukan mo sitahin lahat ng taong nagcoent sa sarili nilang pagkakamali magiiba yan. Daming time mangpuna e ang sarili hindi naman din perfect.
Deleteproblema nya yon, as an adult he knows the consequences. 11:58
DeleteYes. JLC is a public figure. Yes, he has an image to protect. Yes, he has endorsement contracts to follow.
ReplyDeleteBUT he is also a normal human being, who wants to have fun, unwind and be crazy. Let's not forget that he also feels exhausted, sad or maybe depressed and drained. His going to the Beach with friends is not a crime.
What could have been a private escapade, became an issue because of some incondiderate people. Fame wh*res didn't care enough to filter what they uploaded. They didn't think wisely that their uploaded photos & videos could hurt JLC's image & Contracts.
Poor JLC really....
Maiinis sana ako kay Lloydie pero narealize ko personal niyang buhay yan. Hindi naman siya ganyan sa trabaho at dapat wala ng pakialam ang tao kung ano siya with his friends. Pagsabihan na lang niya yang nagvideo, di mapapagkatiwalaan yang ganyang mga tao.
ReplyDeleteHeto na po ang star magic cleaners.Hala umpisahan na ang paglilinis ng kalat ni JL...
ReplyDeleteThe image these Artists are projecting is the exact opposite of their real self.Masyado kasing pa goody kaya tuloy nakaka bwiset kapag nakita mong put on lang pala ang lahat.
ReplyDeleteTo Star Magic,for once tigilan n'yo ang pagkunsinti at pagtatakip.
yeah we know...
ReplyDeletepero yng pagkakalat nya bakit kailangan videohan at ipublic?
alam namin pinaghirapan din nya kung nasaan sya...
Msisibak kaya si ellen sa show?? Tatata 😂
ReplyDeleteOf course, J Manahan would defend JLC as most managers would when people attack their talents. People can be too self righteous for their own good. Before passing quick judgment, just a reminder that those people like JLC are actors not the character they portray. Showbiz is make believe. And if you believed, you were convinced that the actor is a good one. Whatever he does in his downtime is not any of our business but his. So long as he has not caused any harm/damage against anyone, what is there to complain about?
ReplyDeleteexactly! dami kaseng OA e
Deleteito talaga yung dapat sabihan na papansin at parelevant eh. hindi naman bagong actor si JLC at matagal na sya sa showbiz. alam na nya ang kapalit ng mga ganyan pagpapakita sa public. dati naman hindi sya ganyan. so is he still trusting ellen and company sa nangyri? wag na kami lokohin. malamang nalalaos na talaga si JLC at di nya matanggap na kalevel sya ni empoy.
ReplyDeleteMore bs and excuses!
ReplyDeleteWrong!
ReplyDelete