Marami talagang mga doctors na ganyan. Feeling high and mighty palagi at kung makaasta, akala mo kung sino na. Dapat maturuan ng leksyon mga iyan. Nurse din ako though not practicing anymore.
That doctor is a disgrace to medical profession! They shld not practice at all! If you don't have a heart to be a doctor and just after monetary gains, please don't work in the hospital where every minute someone else's lives matter! And for every staff that covers the doctors unprofessional behavior and misdemeanors, it's so shameful. Be humble and and serve the people, that's your job when u work in any hosp, be courteous, be mindful and humane enough to deal w everybody. I will sue that doctor.
Maraming ganyang doktor sa pinas! Sad but true. Pero pag nag abroaf at nagtrabaho na sa ibang bansa grabe sobrang bait na sa mga pasiente nila. Alam kasi. Ila ang patakaran dito sa ibang bansa na pwede agad sila makulong kung ganyan ganyanin nila pasirnte nila. Grrr
I am also a nurse pero I am not buying some parts of this story not unless very incompetent talaga ang health care team nila jan pero naniniwala ako na meron pang di nasasabi sa kwentong ito
I agree. Sa lahat ng kwento may 2 version yan or more. Ang hirap sa mga tao dito naniniwala agad agad sa mga nakapost sa social media. Andon kayo nun nangyari? Gano kayo kasigurado na totoo lahat ng sinasabi? Ang mga nasa medical profession madalas macyber bully. Meron pa dati pati picture nu doktor pinost. Eh d nman talaga yun ang nangyari sa kinunwto nun poster. Kung maka kuda kasi mga tao akala mo naman
I agree. Ang daming ganyan sa facebook. Talking with lots of false information just to get the attention. Masyado naman yun at talagang hindi tinulungan talaga? I don't buy this.
Trust me! Health care team in the Philippines are not GREAT!! So totoo ito! Ang mga nurses sa Pilipinas walang say. Parang mga robot ng doctor!! Look at that nurse she should have at least initiative on what to do! Taking BP isn't enough! Aba ate nurse d sana nag bloods kana tas hinatak mo na ung do tor wether that effing doctor refused!! Nurse din ako and that's what i will do!! Dapat alam na nila i prioritise ang needs ng pasyente ER yan! D na kelangan mag maka awa ang mga relatives dapat!!
Agree ako may 2 bersyon lage ang kwento. Kaya 152 nurse ka lang. wag ka magbigay ng opinyon na akala mo doktor ka. Siguro naman may rason kung bat sya ang captain ng ship at ikaw ang nasa tabi para magassist.
@2:21, totoong may 2 side ng story kaya hindi ako magbibigay ng opinyon sa fb post na yan.. pero sana maghunos dili ka sa pagsasabi ng nurse ka lang.. ang trabaho ng nurse hindi lang ang maging assistant ng doctor, hindi cla nag-aral ng apat na taon para gawin lang kung anong sabihin ng doctor. kaya hinay hinay ka jan dahil may point din ang sinabi ni 1:52 na hindi natatapos ang trabaho ng nurse sa pagkuha ng bp.. e
2:21 Im not 1:52 pero anong "nurse ka lang?" . My husband works as a nurse here in AU and sabi nya iba talaga dito kase doctors treat nurses as their equals, as in as a fellow colleague at hindi "assistant" lang kase they work as a team. Walang superiority complex na porket doctor ka e mas mataas k .each job is valued,kesyo nurse ka pa o patient assistant dito, ang importante may respect kayo sa isat isa at you do your jobs/roles properly. Sa Pinas kase,kulang na lng ata mgbow down ka sa doctors e..kahit mali o incompetent na ang doctor,wala na ba right ang nurses to do their jobs or call out something kapag alam naman nila na mali!?
sa ibang bansa you dont even need a doctor to call a code. there is truth to this story. ive seen incompetent people (not just doctors) work in the hospital. pero i disagree sa sinabi nung poster na "malakas pa nung dinala sa ospital". the man was probly having a heart attack -- that is not malakas pa. tho kung competent yung staff at may gamit ang ospital, the outcome couldve been favorable. dito sa amin pag unstable chest pain, considered emergent ang case mo and everything is done stat. kawawa naman yung namatayan. condolence.
Anon 2:21 NURSE LANG?! Doctors abroad value our opinion d LANG nurse lang! And yes, d LANG kami nasa tabi, you are right, we assist doctors but we assess as well because you know what? We are NOT JUST A NURSE we have CLINICAL EYES too! Alam mo un? Sa Pilipinas ang Doctor ginagawang santo na kung ano ang sabihin bow ang mga nurses! Tell you what , most NURSES are way better than doctors!!! Nurses and doctors worked as a team! Captain ng ship ka pang nalalaman!
I think this also boils down to number of staff attending the patients. Mukang mag isa lang si Doctor nun to attend all the cases. Ung hospital is a tertiary hospital, maraming walk in patients. My question is, nag triage ba ang nurse nun? Emergency case yung patient. Tama yung nabasa ko kanina, sana nagtake na ng initiative yung nurse to take the blood at magpacardiac enzymes na! Mag ECG na at hilahin ang manggagamot. Kahit magalit pa ang Doctor sayo. Hindi ko sinisisi yung Nurse, my point is, part ng job natin yun, hindi ng relative ng patient na magrefer sa Doctor. The Doctor on the otherhand, also failed to attend the patient kahit na andun na sya malapit sa bed ng patient? His attitude towards the situation really turned me off! Parang hindi Doctor. I know this hospital. Typical na Government hospital sa pinas, maraming patients, mostly indigent at understaff. Pero sana wag ganito, kailangang mag makaawa ang patient para tignan kahit emergency case na? More than the staff, dapat maging responsable din ung management dito. Pakiayos po ung system ng hospital nyo. Kawawa ang staff at patients!
I just want to call out 0221H, what do you mean by Nurse ka lang? Are you belittling our profession? Assistant lang ng Doctor?? We have saved Doctors' asses many times! Just so you know, especially the new ones! I am not saying we are greater than them but if you're going to mock us, better be accurate! We are a part of the health care team! We are the ones who stay with the patients 8 hours or 12 hours a day! The Doctors only get to see them like 20-30 minutes a day. Our observation, vitals monitoring and just mere presence, matter. Doctors and Nurses rely on each other. Wag kang ignorante!
He was having a heart attack kasi mostly ganyan mga patients namin sa ER, conscious pa with complaints of chest pain pero biglang bagsak at di na narerevive yung iba. Pero kung ganun yung doctor, wala syang puso. Kahit gaano pa kagaspang ang ugali ng family member ng pasyente, dapat inasikaso pa rin. Sa scenario, parang pinaglaruan lang ang buhay. Kung ako yung ER nurse na nkaduty, kahit walang doctor's order kung alam ko yung severity ng case ng patient, bigay ako agad oxygen, hook sa monitor tapos start ng IV access. Kasi bilang nurse,para sakin ang primary role ko is to be a patient advocate. Kahit magalit pa ang doctor, nag-aassess ako on my own kasi para yun sa pasyente hindi para sa doctor. We follow doctor's orders for the patient's welfare, hindi dahil inutos nila. I have the right to question or refuse an order when it is doubtful or makakasama sa pasyente.
Agree with you 12:41. Kaso mo ALMOST ALL NURSES sa atin are so reliant sa doctors and doctors on the other hand are like their master! Kung c ate nurse marunong mag assess alam na nyang may chest pain aba d sana nag vitals, ecg, bloods prepare meds na alam na nyan i oorder STAT ng doctor at hatakin c doctor kc EMERGENCY ito. Chest pain should be a priority sa ER!
true! kaya wala akong tiwala sa mga nirereseta nila. minsan kasi nagrereseta sila ng meds na hindi mo naman kelangan, nirereseta nila kasi binayaran sila ng pharma companies
Anak ko graduating med student. Grabe, ang hirap nang pinagdadaanan, sad to read na ganyan pala tingin nung iba. Tama, Kung Wala kayong tiwala, mag herbal kayo at self medicate.
totoong masakit mabasa na may ganyan kang hinaing 1244. pero sana naman wag igeneralize. marami pa rin ang nag seserve sa taumbayan. madaming sakripisyo ang mga doctors nyo kung alam mo lang.
I dont think everything he said was true. Medyo malabo. But yah, there are incompetencies happening lalo na sa public hospital pero exaggerated na yun iba part ng kwento.
Sana magkaroon sila ng kapatid na nurse or anak na doktor balang araw. Lalo na yun sa gov hosp magtatrabaho. Baka sakali mamulat ang mga Pilipino eto sa tunay na nangyayari sa mga ospital. Di yun puro sumbong ng kamag anak ng mga pasyente pinaniniwalaan ninyo agad agad
nangyari sa akin yan, u need to fall in line khit has nasa ER NA.. sad to say medals mangyari yan sa mag public hospitals.. kaya we can't blame young mega private hospitals na mahal, kasi po follow nila protocol nila.
Yung pag pila na naranasan mo sa ER, ibig sabihin non triage. Mas kelangan ng emergent care yung mga inuuna ng mga nurse at doktor kesa sa mga nag iintay. In short, mas delikado kpg nauna kang asikasuhin sa ER!
Sana i-report niya yan sa proper authorities para matanggalan na ng lisensya. Very disturbing lang na mayroon palang ganiyang mga doctor. Kung ako dun sa anak, simula pa lang at ganun na ang trato ng doctor sa tatay ko gagawa talaga ako ng eskandalo. Buhay na don ang nakasalalay.
Department of Health should be strict in imposing penalties to erring doctors like the one mentioned by the sender. They are not doing public service. Hindi naman porke't nakapasa sa Med board, ok lang na hindi gawin properly ang duties as doctors.
Not all patients who go to hospital under emergency circumstances have to change clothes just for them to be given priority. Emergency nga, di ba? May time pa magdamit sa sudden heart attack or chest pains?! Tsk!
This is one of the reasons kaya nagaalisan mga doktor at nurses sa Pilipinas. Tinitira agad ang mga doktor di pa naman nadidinig ang side nung doctor. Trial by social media agad. While may mga doctor talaga na epal, I think madaming exaggerration sa story na to.
This should be address to the president and make an investigation and make a change of the work ethics in the hospital.To the doctors,nurses,down to the hospital cleaners how to treat people in there rights.If this happen to the country I leave now.The doctor is in trial or in jail now that's they value life.
That is a Government Hospital. Yes address it to the President please so he can see how the Government Hospital system really work in the country. Kung di mo lam, i'll tell you. Understaff ang mga hospital, not compensated well din. Ung mga indigent na dumadating sa ospital, kalimitan inaabonohan pa ng nurse or ng doctor ang gamot para maka avail ng treatment. Kulang tau sa gamit. Ever heard of one oxygen tank, pinagsasaluhan ng 3 patients? Gumagawa lang ng improvised oxygen tubes? Sabihin mo sa Presidente yan. Para makapaglaan ng pondo sa healthcare system natin. Na sana man lang tama ang doctors and nurses to patient ratio para hindi ganyan na hirap na hirap mag attend ng needs ng patient kasi kulang sa manpower. Pati sana, may mga health insurance na rin tayo, ung hindi na problema ang bayarin sa pagpapagamot, tulad ng ibang bansa. Ambilis kasi isisi lahat sa staff ng hospital eh. Mag work kayo sa ganyang klaseng environment na wala lahat ng kailangan. Kulang kulang pati manpower. Then mag expect kayo ng magandang treatment. Tama ang suggestion mo, iaddress mo sa presidente! Para mabago lahat.
Truly incompetent and uncaring doctors. Any incoming patient complaining of chest pains or any sign of a heart attack or stroke should be examined right away and should be given an ecg.
My grandma died due to incompetent doctors in the Philippines. I am going to med school soon and yes, there are bad apples in every profession. This is inexcusable, unless the doctor can say his side. Gawking viral na to.
You are one bad apple then. Gawing viral? Wow. Coming from a medical student. Let's see how you survive the health care system in the Phils. Sana wag mangyari sayo at maging viral. Now everyone deems it convenient to post anything in social media at gawing viral just to assasinate one's character and you are one of them. Social media is not the proper forum for that.
Wait diba may triage? Baka hindi na-assess ng maigi or tulad nga ng sabi sa post, sabi ng tatay nya ok pa daw sya. Pwede ding malapit ng matapos ang duty ng Dr kaya umiiwas na sa Pt, may pumalit na nga na ibang Dr diba. Parang hindi kapani-paniwala na the Dr is 'mocking' them, parang sobra naman.
Kahit na tapos na ang duty ng doctor she or he is responsible for the lives of others.. may oath silang sinumpaan so you mean if di nakaduty ang doctor at sa kalsada mangyari yan hnd xa tutulong??
Ayoko ng maging doktor balang araw. Taas ng expectations ng tao. Tas pag may kwento sa fb ang kamag anak ng pasyente, doktor ang bineblame agad kahot d nila alam kung totoo ba yun kwento.
three sides of the story true pero important here is to address the issues. doctors are trained how to respond sa ER both ethics and skills. Kya lng some doctors may ugali talgang hindi maganda, i encountered one sa ER din. Siguro dito sa kasong ito hospital management ang magsalita na, kundi wala ng magpapagamot s knila.
Korek. Nung mabganak ako at hinihingan ko ng resibo ung ob ko para s doctor's fee, ang sagot s akin 'baka habulin ako ng bir nyan ha' ngtaka ako bakit nya nasabi un.
5:15 dito sa amin, malaking ospital ganyan yung ibang doctors. Di nagbibigay resibo. Twice na nangyayari samin yan. Nagulat nga ako na pag lumabas yung specialist sa room niya at pumunta sa ER, iba din ang rate. Kahit 30 secs lang layo ng ER sa opisina nya.
I think the reason why kinakagat agad ang stories against doctors, even w/o hearing from the other side, is bec we all have had bad experiences with them. Mataas respeto ko sa most doctors, pero marami rin talagang bad apples. I have a family member who almost died dahil napakamukhang pera o sadyang incompetent ng doctor.
During my duty in my college days iba ang treatment sa poor at rich lalo na ung private at public hospital. Sanay na po kasi silang mamatayan ng patient kaya ganyan lang ang effort nila. Pero hindi naman lahat sila ganoon ang ugali . Sa hospital po pagnakamali sila at namatay ang patient gagawan lang nila ng story kung bakit namatay . Pero pagmatalino yung relative at pina autopsy at magkaiba ng result nila may laban sa korte ung relative. Kaya kapag nurse o doctor ung pasyente nagkakatakutan kasi alam nila may alam din kung ano ung procidure. Lalo na ako sa san lazaro hospital napapavaccine ako , eh nakauniform aq kinabahan tuloy ung nurse na nag inject sakin nanginginig na ung kamay nya. Natawa na lang ako akala nya siguro magtataray ako.
Sa hospital may masipag at tamad kahit saan namang trabaho. Bakit isa lang doctor sa ER dapat two or more ang doctor kahit public . Nakakaloka naman yang hospital na yan isa lang doctor never pa aq nakakita na isa lang ang doctor sa pagduduty ko. Sa ibat ibang hospital
The management should also be responsible for this. How come isa lang ang duty doctor. That is insane. Yung hospital pa naman na yun eh marami tlaagang patients.
1st hand experience ko back when I was in 12. Dislocated may left arm on a Sunday afternoon. Went to City Hosp. & was told walang MD kc Sunday. Enebeyen :D Anyway, they put us in a ward, walang bed, my Mom went home to get a folding bed, and sa corridor ako. During hosp rounds, pinasok nila folding bed ko sa ward, after that, balik sa corridor. Monday AM, super maga na L arm ko and nka straight lang sya (dapat pala, na-advice man lang sana ng med staff doon na lagyan ng sling or something). Anyway, got IV and it was empty for so long maga na rin yung tinusukan ng IV. Tuesday came & got xray and semento/cast for my L arm. Lol! Natatawa lang ako everytime I remember cause it was really bad and not up to standards yung care.
Kung ayaw nila ibigay ung name guluhin nyo buhay ng may ari ng hospital for sure banned yang doctor. Kung alam nyong nagtatakipan sila bullshitin ang buhay ng may ari ng hospital ng mapagalitan nya mga empleyafo nya
May pagkakataon na hindi naman sadya mamatay ung pasyente kesa sa pagkakataong pinabayaan ung pasyente kahit alam nila ung gagawin hindi nila agad gingawa mas nakakainis yun. Alam naman ng lahat na hindi diyos ang mga doctor para maghimala na gumaling ang mga pasyente. Pero ang sabi sakin kapag ibang tao, wala kaminsang paki sa nangyari pero pagkapamilya magugulo buhay mo.
Kung may triage lang ER dyan para malagyan ng tag si patient kung red, yellow, green, white , or black tag. Para masmapapabilis na. Para tulong din kay doctor yan. Kulang effort nila sa hospital.
As a nurse in the Philippines who were able to work in public and private hospitals before, i can say that somehow part of it is true. If nagtataka kayo if kaya bang gawin ng doctor iyan? Yes, they can do that esp. in public hospitals.
sue or demanda mo ang buong hospital, lahat ng staff, nurses, doctors na nadoon nung araw na yon, for neglect and wrongful death. meron liability insurance and professional insurance ang hospital, doctor, pati nurses, para magtanda yang mga yan. mag hanap ka ng law firm na pwedeng mag represent sa yo na pro bono o contingency. di mo kailangan ng buong pangalan o address ng doctor. nangyari lahat yun sa loob ng hospital kaya liable ang hospital sa gawain ng empleyado nila, lalo na ng mga doctor at nurses.
That is why it is very important to have health card nowadays para pag ganyang emergency cases you bring the patient sa private hospital agad. There they will take good care of you. Mahirap makipagsapalaran sa public hospital pag emergency cases.
OMG! Nurse ako at saksi din ako sa malditang doctors na minumura ko sa isip tuwing nakakasalubong ko. Sana matagpuan si Doc ng mabawasan sila.
ReplyDeleteMarami talagang mga doctors na ganyan. Feeling high and mighty palagi at kung makaasta, akala mo kung sino na. Dapat maturuan ng leksyon mga iyan. Nurse din ako though not practicing anymore.
DeleteKaya ang FP hindi lang chismis, me Information Dissemination at Awareness Alert din sa mga gawaing mali!
Deletemasaklap pa jan yung mga nagmamataas na doctor yung mga taga public pa talaga tsk tsk tsk
DeleteWala po bang triage sa hospital na yan? Para sana macategorize kung urgent ung case or not?
DeleteThat doctor is a disgrace to medical profession! They shld not practice at all! If you don't have a heart to be a doctor and just after monetary gains, please don't work in the hospital where every minute someone else's lives matter! And for every staff that covers the doctors unprofessional behavior and misdemeanors, it's so shameful. Be humble and and serve the people, that's your job when u work in any hosp, be courteous, be mindful and humane enough to deal w everybody. I will sue that doctor.
ReplyDeleteIkaw talaga magsue?
DeleteDalwang kwento yan bakz. Isang version pa lang nabasa mo.
DeleteMaraming ganyang doktor sa pinas! Sad but true. Pero pag nag abroaf at nagtrabaho na sa ibang bansa grabe sobrang bait na sa mga pasiente nila. Alam kasi. Ila ang patakaran dito sa ibang bansa na pwede agad sila makulong kung ganyan ganyanin nila pasirnte nila. Grrr
DeleteAt kahit mga nurse jan sa pinas, lalo na sa public, karamihan maldita pag nag abroad kunwari bait baitan na sa mgapadyente.
Deletemerun ba doctor dito o med student?pwede nyo po ba ireport yan duktor na yan sa board ninyo, para maimbestigahan at matanggalan ng lisensya.
ReplyDeleteYou actually don't need to be a doctor to report this. Anyone can report it to the Board.
Delete12:40 nang-uutos ka pa. Gawin mo.
DeleteI am also a nurse pero I am not buying some parts of this story not unless very incompetent talaga ang health care team nila jan pero naniniwala ako na meron pang di nasasabi sa kwentong ito
ReplyDeleteI agree. Sa lahat ng kwento may 2 version yan or more. Ang hirap sa mga tao dito naniniwala agad agad sa mga nakapost sa social media. Andon kayo nun nangyari? Gano kayo kasigurado na totoo lahat ng sinasabi? Ang mga nasa medical profession madalas macyber bully. Meron pa dati pati picture nu doktor pinost. Eh d nman talaga yun ang nangyari sa kinunwto nun poster. Kung maka kuda kasi mga tao akala mo naman
DeleteI agree. Ang daming ganyan sa facebook. Talking with lots of false information just to get the attention. Masyado naman yun at talagang hindi tinulungan talaga? I don't buy this.
DeleteTrust me! Health care team in the Philippines are not GREAT!! So totoo ito! Ang mga nurses sa Pilipinas walang say. Parang mga robot ng doctor!! Look at that nurse she should have at least initiative on what to do! Taking BP isn't enough! Aba ate nurse d sana nag bloods kana tas hinatak mo na ung do tor wether that effing doctor refused!! Nurse din ako and that's what i will do!! Dapat alam na nila i prioritise ang needs ng pasyente ER yan! D na kelangan mag maka awa ang mga relatives dapat!!
DeleteAgree ako may 2 bersyon lage ang kwento. Kaya 152 nurse ka lang. wag ka magbigay ng opinyon na akala mo doktor ka. Siguro naman may rason kung bat sya ang captain ng ship at ikaw ang nasa tabi para magassist.
Delete@2:21, totoong may 2 side ng story kaya hindi ako magbibigay ng opinyon sa fb post na yan.. pero sana maghunos dili ka sa pagsasabi ng nurse ka lang.. ang trabaho ng nurse hindi lang ang maging assistant ng doctor, hindi cla nag-aral ng apat na taon para gawin lang kung anong sabihin ng doctor. kaya hinay hinay ka jan dahil may point din ang sinabi ni 1:52 na hindi natatapos ang trabaho ng nurse sa pagkuha ng bp.. e
DeleteYou are wrong. There are many incompetent and uncaring doctors in this country.
Delete2:21 Im not 1:52 pero anong "nurse ka lang?" . My husband works as a nurse here in AU and sabi nya iba talaga dito kase doctors treat nurses as their equals, as in as a fellow colleague at hindi "assistant" lang kase they work as a team. Walang superiority complex na porket doctor ka e mas mataas k .each job is valued,kesyo nurse ka pa o patient assistant dito, ang importante may respect kayo sa isat isa at you do your jobs/roles properly. Sa Pinas kase,kulang na lng ata mgbow down ka sa doctors e..kahit mali o incompetent na ang doctor,wala na ba right ang nurses to do their jobs or call out something kapag alam naman nila na mali!?
Deletesa ibang bansa you dont even need a doctor to call a code. there is truth to this story. ive seen incompetent people (not just doctors) work in the hospital. pero i disagree sa sinabi nung poster na "malakas pa nung dinala sa ospital". the man was probly having a heart attack -- that is not malakas pa. tho kung competent yung staff at may gamit ang ospital, the outcome couldve been favorable. dito sa amin pag unstable chest pain, considered emergent ang case mo and everything is done stat. kawawa naman yung namatayan. condolence.
DeleteAnon 2:21 NURSE LANG?! Doctors abroad value our opinion d LANG nurse lang! And yes, d LANG kami nasa tabi, you are right, we assist doctors but we assess as well because you know what? We are NOT JUST A NURSE we have CLINICAL EYES too! Alam mo un? Sa Pilipinas ang Doctor ginagawang santo na kung ano ang sabihin bow ang mga nurses! Tell you what , most NURSES are way better than doctors!!! Nurses and doctors worked as a team! Captain ng ship ka pang nalalaman!
DeleteMay ibang doctor sa public hospitals na kung sigaw sigawan ang mahihirap na pasyente at bantay nito akala mo basura!
DeleteI think this also boils down to number of staff attending the patients. Mukang mag isa lang si Doctor nun to attend all the cases. Ung hospital is a tertiary hospital, maraming walk in patients. My question is, nag triage ba ang nurse nun? Emergency case yung patient. Tama yung nabasa ko kanina, sana nagtake na ng initiative yung nurse to take the blood at magpacardiac enzymes na! Mag ECG na at hilahin ang manggagamot. Kahit magalit pa ang Doctor sayo. Hindi ko sinisisi yung Nurse, my point is, part ng job natin yun, hindi ng relative ng patient na magrefer sa Doctor. The Doctor on the otherhand, also failed to attend the patient kahit na andun na sya malapit sa bed ng patient? His attitude towards the situation really turned me off! Parang hindi Doctor. I know this hospital. Typical na Government hospital sa pinas, maraming patients, mostly indigent at understaff. Pero sana wag ganito, kailangang mag makaawa ang patient para tignan kahit emergency case na? More than the staff, dapat maging responsable din ung management dito. Pakiayos po ung system ng hospital nyo. Kawawa ang staff at patients!
DeleteI just want to call out 0221H, what do you mean by Nurse ka lang? Are you belittling our profession? Assistant lang ng Doctor?? We have saved Doctors' asses many times! Just so you know, especially the new ones! I am not saying we are greater than them but if you're going to mock us, better be accurate! We are a part of the health care team! We are the ones who stay with the patients 8 hours or 12 hours a day! The Doctors only get to see them like 20-30 minutes a day. Our observation, vitals monitoring and just mere presence, matter. Doctors and Nurses rely on each other. Wag kang ignorante!
DeleteHe was having a heart attack kasi mostly ganyan mga patients namin sa ER, conscious pa with complaints of chest pain pero biglang bagsak at di na narerevive yung iba. Pero kung ganun yung doctor, wala syang puso. Kahit gaano pa kagaspang ang ugali ng family member ng pasyente, dapat inasikaso pa rin. Sa scenario, parang pinaglaruan lang ang buhay. Kung ako yung ER nurse na nkaduty, kahit walang doctor's order kung alam ko yung severity ng case ng patient, bigay ako agad oxygen, hook sa monitor tapos start ng IV access. Kasi bilang nurse,para sakin ang primary role ko is to be a patient advocate. Kahit magalit pa ang doctor, nag-aassess ako on my own kasi para yun sa pasyente hindi para sa doctor. We follow doctor's orders for the patient's welfare, hindi dahil inutos nila. I have the right to question or refuse an order when it is doubtful or makakasama sa pasyente.
DeleteAgree with you 12:41. Kaso mo ALMOST ALL NURSES sa atin are so reliant sa doctors and doctors on the other hand are like their master! Kung c ate nurse marunong mag assess alam na nyang may chest pain aba d sana nag vitals, ecg, bloods prepare meds na alam na nyan i oorder STAT ng doctor at hatakin c doctor kc EMERGENCY ito. Chest pain should be a priority sa ER!
DeleteWalang kwenta mga doctor sa totoo lang. Paid by big pharma ang nga yan kaya reseta dito, reseta dyan ang alam gawin. Pera pera lang yan.
ReplyDeleteIgeneralize mo pa. Sa albularyo ka magpunta. Mag isip bago kumuda. Napakakitid mo mag isip. PS Hindi ako yung doctor.
Deletetrue! kaya wala akong tiwala sa mga nirereseta nila. minsan kasi nagrereseta sila ng meds na hindi mo naman kelangan, nirereseta nila kasi binayaran sila ng pharma companies
DeleteI know we have our own free will to voice out our opinion pero grabe naman ito. Nag-aral ng ilang taon para sa pera?Sasabihan pa ng walang kwenta?
DeleteAnak ko graduating med student. Grabe, ang hirap nang pinagdadaanan, sad to read na ganyan pala tingin nung iba. Tama, Kung Wala kayong tiwala, mag herbal kayo at self medicate.
Deletetotoong masakit mabasa na may ganyan kang hinaing 1244. pero sana naman wag igeneralize. marami pa rin ang nag seserve sa taumbayan. madaming sakripisyo ang mga doctors nyo kung alam mo lang.
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ReplyDeleteI dont think everything he said was true. Medyo malabo. But yah, there are incompetencies happening lalo na sa public hospital pero exaggerated na yun iba part ng kwento.
ReplyDeleteSana magkaroon sila ng kapatid na nurse or anak na doktor balang araw. Lalo na yun sa gov hosp magtatrabaho. Baka sakali mamulat ang mga Pilipino eto sa tunay na nangyayari sa mga ospital. Di yun puro sumbong ng kamag anak ng mga pasyente pinaniniwalaan ninyo agad agad
DeleteYou don't know that until it happens to you.
Deletenangyari sa akin yan, u need to fall in line khit has nasa ER NA..
Deletesad to say medals mangyari yan sa mag public hospitals..
kaya we can't blame young mega private hospitals na mahal, kasi po follow nila protocol nila.
Yung pag pila na naranasan mo sa ER, ibig sabihin non triage. Mas kelangan ng emergent care yung mga inuuna ng mga nurse at doktor kesa sa mga nag iintay. In short, mas delikado kpg nauna kang asikasuhin sa ER!
DeleteSana i-report niya yan sa proper authorities para matanggalan na ng lisensya. Very disturbing lang na mayroon palang ganiyang mga doctor. Kung ako dun sa anak, simula pa lang at ganun na ang trato ng doctor sa tatay ko gagawa talaga ako ng eskandalo. Buhay na don ang nakasalalay.
ReplyDeleteDepartment of Health should be strict in imposing penalties to erring doctors like the one mentioned by the sender. They are not doing public service. Hindi naman porke't nakapasa sa Med board, ok lang na hindi gawin properly ang duties as doctors.
ReplyDeleteNot all patients who go to hospital under emergency circumstances have to change clothes just for them to be given priority. Emergency nga, di ba? May time pa magdamit sa sudden heart attack or chest pains?! Tsk!
Hindi lahat ng pinopost na kwento sa social media 100% accurate.
ReplyDeleteTama. It's so easy to target nurses and doctors sa social media without knowing the protocols of the hospital and what not.
DeleteNaisip ko nga din yan, gawa na din ng emosyon at frustration kaya may biases na ang kwento ni kuya.
DeleteI want to hear the side of the MD and the staff of the hospital.
ReplyDeletePlease FP keep me update regarding this matter.
Thank you.
they identified the doctor already in FB comments of the complainant
ReplyDeleteThis is one of the reasons kaya nagaalisan mga doktor at nurses sa Pilipinas. Tinitira agad ang mga doktor di pa naman nadidinig ang side nung doctor. Trial by social media agad. While may mga doctor talaga na epal, I think madaming exaggerration sa story na to.
ReplyDeleteUhm, yes I agree!
DeleteThis should be address to the president and make an investigation and make a change of the work ethics in the hospital.To the doctors,nurses,down to the hospital cleaners how to treat people in there rights.If this happen to the country I leave now.The doctor is in trial or in jail now that's they value life.
ReplyDeleteThat is a Government Hospital. Yes address it to the President please so he can see how the Government Hospital system really work in the country. Kung di mo lam, i'll tell you. Understaff ang mga hospital, not compensated well din. Ung mga indigent na dumadating sa ospital, kalimitan inaabonohan pa ng nurse or ng doctor ang gamot para maka avail ng treatment. Kulang tau sa gamit. Ever heard of one oxygen tank, pinagsasaluhan ng 3 patients? Gumagawa lang ng improvised oxygen tubes? Sabihin mo sa Presidente yan. Para makapaglaan ng pondo sa healthcare system natin. Na sana man lang tama ang doctors and nurses to patient ratio para hindi ganyan na hirap na hirap mag attend ng needs ng patient kasi kulang sa manpower. Pati sana, may mga health insurance na rin tayo, ung hindi na problema ang bayarin sa pagpapagamot, tulad ng ibang bansa. Ambilis kasi isisi lahat sa staff ng hospital eh. Mag work kayo sa ganyang klaseng environment na wala lahat ng kailangan. Kulang kulang pati manpower. Then mag expect kayo ng magandang treatment. Tama ang suggestion mo, iaddress mo sa presidente! Para mabago lahat.
DeleteTruly incompetent and uncaring doctors. Any incoming patient complaining of chest pains or any sign of a heart attack or stroke should be examined right away and should be given an ecg.
ReplyDeleteMy grandma died due to incompetent doctors in the Philippines. I am going to med school soon and yes, there are bad apples in every profession. This is inexcusable, unless the doctor can say his side. Gawking viral na to.
ReplyDeleteYou are one bad apple then. Gawing viral? Wow. Coming from a medical student. Let's see how you survive the health care system in the Phils. Sana wag mangyari sayo at maging viral. Now everyone deems it convenient to post anything in social media at gawing viral just to assasinate one's character and you are one of them. Social media is not the proper forum for that.
DeleteThere's always 3 sides to a story- his, the doctor's and the truth.
ReplyDeletenakakalungkot lang ang ganitong mga eksena sa hospital T_T
ReplyDeleteWait diba may triage? Baka hindi na-assess ng maigi or tulad nga ng sabi sa post, sabi ng tatay nya ok pa daw sya. Pwede ding malapit ng matapos ang duty ng Dr kaya umiiwas na sa Pt, may pumalit na nga na ibang Dr diba. Parang hindi kapani-paniwala na the Dr is 'mocking' them, parang sobra naman.
ReplyDeleteKahit na tapos na ang duty ng doctor she or he is responsible for the lives of others.. may oath silang sinumpaan so you mean if di nakaduty ang doctor at sa kalsada mangyari yan hnd xa tutulong??
DeleteAyoko ng maging doktor balang araw. Taas ng expectations ng tao. Tas pag may kwento sa fb ang kamag anak ng pasyente, doktor ang bineblame agad kahot d nila alam kung totoo ba yun kwento.
Deletethree sides of the story true pero important here is to address the issues. doctors are trained how to respond sa ER both ethics and skills. Kya lng some doctors may ugali talgang hindi maganda, i encountered one sa ER din. Siguro dito sa kasong ito hospital management ang magsalita na, kundi wala ng magpapagamot s knila.
ReplyDeleteSabi nga ng tiyahin ko na may ari ng pharmaceutical company pinaka corrupt daw ang doktor.
ReplyDeleteKorek. Nung mabganak ako at hinihingan ko ng resibo ung ob ko para s doctor's fee, ang sagot s akin 'baka habulin ako ng bir nyan ha' ngtaka ako bakit nya nasabi un.
Delete5:15 dito sa amin, malaking ospital ganyan yung ibang doctors. Di nagbibigay resibo. Twice na nangyayari samin yan. Nagulat nga ako na pag lumabas yung specialist sa room niya at pumunta sa ER, iba din ang rate. Kahit 30 secs lang layo ng ER sa opisina nya.
DeleteI think the reason why kinakagat agad ang stories against doctors, even w/o hearing from the other side, is bec we all have had bad experiences with them. Mataas respeto ko sa most doctors, pero marami rin talagang bad apples. I have a family member who almost died dahil napakamukhang pera o sadyang incompetent ng doctor.
ReplyDeleteDuring my duty in my college days iba ang treatment sa poor at rich lalo na ung private at public hospital. Sanay na po kasi silang mamatayan ng patient kaya ganyan lang ang effort nila. Pero hindi naman lahat sila ganoon ang ugali . Sa hospital po pagnakamali sila at namatay ang patient gagawan lang nila ng story kung bakit namatay . Pero pagmatalino yung relative at pina autopsy at magkaiba ng result nila may laban sa korte ung relative. Kaya kapag nurse o doctor ung pasyente nagkakatakutan kasi alam nila may alam din kung ano ung procidure. Lalo na ako sa san lazaro hospital napapavaccine ako , eh nakauniform aq kinabahan tuloy ung nurse na nag inject sakin nanginginig na ung kamay nya. Natawa na lang ako akala nya siguro magtataray ako.
ReplyDeleteSa hospital may masipag at tamad kahit saan namang trabaho. Bakit isa lang doctor sa ER dapat two or more ang doctor kahit public . Nakakaloka naman yang hospital na yan isa lang doctor never pa aq nakakita na isa lang ang doctor sa pagduduty ko. Sa ibat ibang hospital
ReplyDeleteThe management should also be responsible for this. How come isa lang ang duty doctor. That is insane. Yung hospital pa naman na yun eh marami tlaagang patients.
DeletePwede po sila magreklamo itatago ng mga nurse ung record ni patient para hindi mapalitan ng tumingin sa pasyente basta magreklamo agad sila .
ReplyDelete1st hand experience ko back when I was in 12. Dislocated may left arm on a Sunday afternoon. Went to City Hosp. & was told walang MD kc Sunday. Enebeyen :D Anyway, they put us in a ward, walang bed, my Mom went home to get a folding bed, and sa corridor ako. During hosp rounds, pinasok nila folding bed ko sa ward, after that, balik sa corridor. Monday AM, super maga na L arm ko and nka straight lang sya (dapat pala, na-advice man lang sana ng med staff doon na lagyan ng sling or something). Anyway, got IV and it was empty for so long maga na rin yung tinusukan ng IV. Tuesday came & got xray and semento/cast for my L arm. Lol! Natatawa lang ako everytime I remember cause it was really bad and not up to standards yung care.
ReplyDeleteKung ayaw nila ibigay ung name guluhin nyo buhay ng may ari ng hospital for sure banned yang doctor. Kung alam nyong nagtatakipan sila bullshitin ang buhay ng may ari ng hospital ng mapagalitan nya mga empleyafo nya
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DeleteMas masama yun ugali nung doctor. Sa sama ng ugali nya namatay yun pasyente na wala man lang kalaban laban na asa ospital na.
Deletemas msma ugale nung doctor at nung may ari ng ospital, pag sa tatay mo ginawa un tatahimik klng ba ha?
DeleteMay pagkakataon na hindi naman sadya mamatay ung pasyente kesa sa pagkakataong pinabayaan ung pasyente kahit alam nila ung gagawin hindi nila agad gingawa mas nakakainis yun. Alam naman ng lahat na hindi diyos ang mga doctor para maghimala na gumaling ang mga pasyente. Pero ang sabi sakin kapag ibang tao, wala kaminsang paki sa nangyari pero pagkapamilya magugulo buhay mo.
ReplyDeleteDapat may triage lahat ng ER sa mga hospital para alam nila kung first priority or waiting sila.
ReplyDeleteMeron naman dapat if susunod sa policy. Alam mo naman ibang hospitals incompetent ang mga staffs nila.
DeleteKung may triage lang ER dyan para malagyan ng tag si patient kung red, yellow, green, white , or black tag. Para masmapapabilis na. Para tulong din kay doctor yan. Kulang effort nila sa hospital.
ReplyDeleteYes. Triage system sana. Pero mukang walang ganun.
DeleteSana alam nila ung triage kung meron
ReplyDeleteAs a nurse in the Philippines who were able to work in public and private hospitals before, i can say that somehow part of it is true. If nagtataka kayo if kaya bang gawin ng doctor iyan? Yes, they can do that esp. in public hospitals.
ReplyDeletesue or demanda mo ang buong hospital, lahat ng staff, nurses, doctors na nadoon nung araw na yon, for neglect and wrongful death. meron liability insurance and professional insurance ang hospital, doctor, pati nurses, para magtanda yang mga yan. mag hanap ka ng law firm na pwedeng mag represent sa yo na pro bono o contingency. di mo kailangan ng buong pangalan o address ng doctor. nangyari lahat yun sa loob ng hospital kaya liable ang hospital sa gawain ng empleyado nila, lalo na ng mga doctor at nurses.
ReplyDeleteThat is why it is very important to have health card nowadays para pag ganyang emergency cases you bring the patient sa private hospital agad. There they will take good care of you. Mahirap makipagsapalaran sa public hospital pag emergency cases.
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