Yung kilala Kong pastor. Ilan din Yung truck at mga sasakyan. Lahat ng anak sa private school nag aaral. Tapos Yung mga myembro, nagpapadyak Lang. Pagod na sa pagtatrabaho Para makapag igay ng ikapu kasi pag di nagbigay, Para daw ninanakawan
Susme. Basic yan just look at the big religious groups ditong cool ‘to. Required ka pang mag monthly bigay sa kanila. Look at their leaders, not following Jesus life naman, more like kings ang asta!
Kaya ako wala akong amor sa mga kulto. Yes. Lahat yan kulto basta humingi ng pera. Ginagamit lang si Jesus Christ para makakulimbat ng pera. When I pray, I pray alone. I pray sa loob ng bahay, ng kwarto, ng office, ng CR, ng kotse, ng public utilities, ng Blessed Sacrament, etc. Hindi ko kailangan ng magkokonekta sa akin sa Diyos. God created me. He wants me to be born and live. That for me is enough connection to have a direct line to Him. Galing ako sa Diyos. Bakit hindi ko kayang makipausap direkta sa gumawa sa akin? I would find that absurd. So straight ako kay God thru prayers and reading and watching videos of His Words
Shoutout sa Tita kong taga-Victory hahaha back to you ka ngayon akala mo kasi ka-level ni Jesus mga pastor sa inyo. Sana nandito ka para mabasa mo to. D lang pastor, kahit member nyan may mga sablay din katulad ng Tita ko. Disclaimer ha di lahat sila pero kasama yung tita ko.
Sa totoo lang minsan nati turn off ako sa church na naman inoobliga ka magbigay. May preach always about tites giving. And yes ang yaman ng pastor namin. Pa golf golf pa
True,kasi yung isang anak ng religious leader kapitbahay namin ang asawa,eh wla nmang work yung guy pati yung girl pero yung anak sa exclusive school nag aaral,tapos yung girl puro travel at flex.. saan kaya nila nakukuha pantustos nila,hmmmm..
Is Rica really a Christian in the way she is handling this? She already said she had aired her grievances and chosen to leave, leaving the matter with the organization. Yet here she is again, airing her complaints publicly, on nothing more than suspicion. What shows through is not grace but anger and bitterness, with the intent of hitting back.
She was asked? So she answered its her account and platform, ika nga bato bato sa langit eh di sapul. Dont silence her and question her being a Christian. Iba iba yan
12:34 Her account and posts are public, so she should expect the public to react.
But really, do you think it’s fair to throw out public accusations based only on suspicion? That’s reckless and irresponsible.
If she truly had a case, she should have put it in writing and faced it properly. But since she already decided to leave, it’s no longer her business. Yet here she is, meddling and attacking.
This is tricky. She is allowed to speak up (because aside from our right to do so, Christians need to also fight for what is right). She is accountable for other things... sometimes, people who speak too much reveal a lot about themselves. Need ng nuance dito. Leave that to God pero siguro be careful with dealing with people like that.
1:19 she is a part of that church and they serve as a leader so yes she has all the right to talk because she experienced it herself together with her pastor husband. As she said she tried to speak dba? Walang nangyari, hater ka lang kaya ganyan ang hanash mo. May point si Rica, at kung ikaw gawain mong manahimik eh di gawin mo. Pabayaan mo yun gusto magsalita
the more important question is.... bakit sila nag tatag ng new church?? isa lang ang bride ni kristo...CATHOLIC CHURCH... dumagdag pa sila ng husband nya sa 40K denominations nyahahahaha
Corruption is everywhere naman talaga, iba ibang scale nga lang.. yung simpleng pag hingi ng magulang sa napamaskuhan ng anak nila "for safe keeping daw" is a form of corruption..
Masyado daw malakas ang mga leader dun. Kaya ang solusyon nila, umalis at gumawa ng sarili nilang group. Heheheh.. very business desisyon lang din talaga
I've been involved in a number of cults. As both a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower, but you make more money as a leader. -Creed Bratton
Alala ko yung kaklase ko na anak ng pastor e,victory din.Yung bahay na nirerentahan nila sagot ng church tas lahat ng anak nya napaaral nya sa university sa manila magkakasunod pa yan na college.Tas yung isang anak na dentist ilang yrs bago nakapagtapos kasi laging bagsak grades kasi kaka party eventually naka graduate din.Sarap buhay nila e.
Big scam ang religion. Obligasyon mo pang magbigay ng pera mo. I will help people in my own way na nakikita mo saan napupunta ang pera and not sa mga religion. Kahit anong religion, nagbibigay ng pera. Wala namang trabaho itong si Rica pero nakakakain ng mahigit pa sa 3x a day and lives a very comfortable way.
Walang manloloko kung walang magpapaloko. Ang pinakayamang organizations ay simbahan. Kinakalakal nila ang kahinaan Ng mananampalataya. Dereyso na lang sa Diyos kung may kailangan. Bakit kelangan pa ang kanilang ga false prophet agapay.
true... but reminder lang po... we are obligated to provide for the church's needs... hindi lang talaga garapal ang CC .... magbigay ka ayon sa konsensya mo
My Tito is a pastor. i work as an administrator,gusto nya humingi ako ng project sa mayor namin and sya maging contractor,i said NO. he even called my husband to asked for help and explain na pambawi lang daw sa gastos during election (my father run as vm). bahala sya kahit ung buong church nya pa makiusap sa akin hindi ko pagbigyan. the nerve
Just so you know yung pera na binibigay nyo sa churches kusang loob na binigay nyo yon. Wala na kayo pakialam kung saan o paano gagamitin ang pera kasi donasyon nyo yun wala na kayong rights doon. Dami entitled 🙄
Di ko talaga masisi anak ko bakit naging atheist na. Dati namang naniniwala sa Diyos pero because of these religious groups, nawalan tuloy ng gana hanggang nawalan na rin ng paniniwala sa existence ng Diyos. But I'm still praying hard na sana kahit man lang ang paniniwala na may Diyos talaga ang bumalik sa kanya kahit wag na panininiwala to a religious faith.🙏🥹
This is so true. Yung ibang pari nga sa catholic use money from church para gumala kasama pamilya and ofc secret lang. Hay kahit saan talaga may korapsyon.
yang mga church gumagamit ng mga sikat na artista para makahikayat ng mga magsisimba tapos kailangan kasi may percentage ka talaga na idodonate sa kanila. Dyan sila kumikita sa collection kaya kung mahirap ka, hindi ka imbitado sa church na yan dahil wala kang ambag.Kaya dapat i lifestyle check din mga pastor at mga church, Yan ang napakadaling negosyo para yumaman
victory papa ni paul soriano diba? yan din naging issue nila pacquiao dami daw hinihingi para maka pag preach si pacquiao donation speakers and microphones and many more
A lot of these religions use God’s name para panakot. Napaka toxic na sect. I myself experienced that. Talamak mga corruption sa religion lalo inflation all over the world, need nila manakot para madami abuloy. Yung ibang member nag ispy din sa socmed. They’re like demons.
Churches do not pay taxes. Imagine 100 plus years na ang isang religion na kumukuha ng abuloy ng mga tao without paying taxes sa pinas. Abay, billionaires na ang mga may ari ng cult nila.
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Parang politics lang 'yan. Pati Religious organizations ginagawang business. Yun iba ginawa pang family dynasty. Hay naku!
ReplyDeleteYung kilala Kong pastor. Ilan din Yung truck at mga sasakyan. Lahat ng anak sa private school nag aaral. Tapos Yung mga myembro, nagpapadyak Lang. Pagod na sa pagtatrabaho Para makapag igay ng ikapu kasi pag di nagbigay, Para daw ninanakawan
DeleteSusme. Basic yan just look at the big religious groups ditong cool ‘to. Required ka pang mag monthly bigay sa kanila. Look at their leaders, not following Jesus life naman, more like kings ang asta!
DeleteEhem ehem. At mga preacher slash motivational speaker na naglalako ng financial books kuno.
DeleteKaya ako wala akong amor sa mga kulto. Yes. Lahat yan kulto basta humingi ng pera. Ginagamit lang si Jesus Christ para makakulimbat ng pera. When I pray, I pray alone. I pray sa loob ng bahay, ng kwarto, ng office, ng CR, ng kotse, ng public utilities, ng Blessed Sacrament, etc. Hindi ko kailangan ng magkokonekta sa akin sa Diyos. God created me. He wants me to be born and live. That for me is enough connection to have a direct line to Him. Galing ako sa Diyos. Bakit hindi ko kayang makipausap direkta sa gumawa sa akin? I would find that absurd. So straight ako kay God thru prayers and reading and watching videos of His Words
DeleteSabi nga ng pari sa homily, "if you want to get rich, put up a achool or a religion." Pero pwede ring maging politician or even a contractor.
Delete12:41 same! Kulto na talaga! I just pray on my own
DeleteShoutout sa Tita kong taga-Victory hahaha back to you ka ngayon akala mo kasi ka-level ni Jesus mga pastor sa inyo. Sana nandito ka para mabasa mo to. D lang pastor, kahit member nyan may mga sablay din katulad ng Tita ko. Disclaimer ha di lahat sila pero kasama yung tita ko.
DeleteSa totoo lang minsan nati turn off ako sa church na naman inoobliga ka magbigay. May preach always about tites giving. And yes ang yaman ng pastor namin. Pa golf golf pa
DeleteTrue,kasi yung isang anak ng religious leader kapitbahay namin ang asawa,eh wla nmang work yung guy pati yung girl pero yung anak sa exclusive school nag aaral,tapos yung girl puro travel at flex.. saan kaya nila nakukuha pantustos nila,hmmmm..
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Delete12:41 very same and true.
Grabe din ang corruption sa mga church ba yan mga religious organization but you all don't want to talk about it kasi nga...
ReplyDeleteIs Rica really a Christian in the way she is handling this? She already said she had aired her grievances and chosen to leave, leaving the matter with the organization. Yet here she is again, airing her complaints publicly, on nothing more than suspicion. What shows through is not grace but anger and bitterness, with the intent of hitting back.
ReplyDeleteShe was asked? So she answered its her account and platform, ika nga bato bato sa langit eh di sapul. Dont silence her and question her being a Christian. Iba iba yan
Delete12:34 Her account and posts are public, so she should expect the public to react.
DeleteBut really, do you think it’s fair to throw out public accusations based only on suspicion? That’s reckless and irresponsible.
If she truly had a case, she should have put it in writing and faced it properly. But since she already decided to leave, it’s no longer her business. Yet here she is, meddling and attacking.
This is tricky. She is allowed to speak up (because aside from our right to do so, Christians need to also fight for what is right). She is accountable for other things... sometimes, people who speak too much reveal a lot about themselves. Need ng nuance dito. Leave that to God pero siguro be careful with dealing with people like that.
DeleteAy ang pagiging Christian pala dapat eh manahimik forever. Sorry, I’d rather be agnostic than be one if it means being silent.
Delete1:19 she is a part of that church and they serve as a leader so yes she has all the right to talk because she experienced it herself together with her pastor husband.
DeleteAs she said she tried to speak dba? Walang nangyari, hater ka lang kaya ganyan ang hanash mo. May point si Rica, at kung ikaw gawain mong manahimik eh di gawin mo. Pabayaan mo yun gusto magsalita
1:52 Nuance. Sinong nagsabing need manahimik? Iba 'yung latang maingay lang kumpara sa may need talagang sabihin
Deletethe more important question is.... bakit sila nag tatag ng new church?? isa lang ang bride ni kristo...CATHOLIC CHURCH... dumagdag pa sila ng husband nya sa 40K denominations nyahahahaha
DeleteSa kakakatok nyo sa mga politicians ng corrupt, yan tuloy when buong pilipinas corrupt!
ReplyDeleteCorruption is everywhere naman talaga, iba ibang scale nga lang.. yung simpleng pag hingi ng magulang sa napamaskuhan ng anak nila "for safe keeping daw" is a form of corruption..
DeleteOhh wala na pala sila sa Victory. Pero... pero... bakit wala silang ginawa..pinabayaan na lang nila mga tao doon?
ReplyDeleteMasyado daw malakas ang mga leader dun. Kaya ang solusyon nila, umalis at gumawa ng sarili nilang group. Heheheh.. very business desisyon lang din talaga
DeleteAlso interesting is that her father in law is still one of the leaders of her former church.
Deletegumawa sila ng sarili nilang BUSINESS este... church pala
DeleteOMG! Totoo ba yan
ReplyDeleteThis is sooo sad. Nagkamali ba si Pastor ng nakuhang wife? Parang ang daming bagage ni Rica.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking up against injustice makes one unworthy of being a pastor’s wife? Cool.
DeleteWhat’s with all these comments about being a Christian vs speaking up? All the courageous men and women in the bible shaking their heads.
Delete1:33 Who said that? Any member of the org including pastor's wife should speak up, but only in the proper forum, not throw accisations publicly!
DeleteNagkakalat na naman si Rica. 🥹
ReplyDeleteI've been involved in a number of cults. As both a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower, but you make more money as a leader. -Creed Bratton
ReplyDeleteThat’s what she said! 😆
DeleteThat’s what she said! 😆
DeleteAs a pastors wife ang ingay niya ha. Ang dame niyang hanash sa buhay hindi nakaka pastora ang vibes.
ReplyDeleteSabi nga. Kung sino maingay, sya tong madami gusto patunayan, at madami tinatago..
DeleteLuh. God gave her a mind to discern, why must she shut up?!
DeleteMay pagka conceited sya
DeleteAlala ko yung kaklase ko na anak ng pastor e,victory din.Yung bahay na nirerentahan nila sagot ng church tas lahat ng anak nya napaaral nya sa university sa manila magkakasunod pa yan na college.Tas yung isang anak na dentist ilang yrs bago nakapagtapos kasi laging bagsak grades kasi kaka party eventually naka graduate din.Sarap buhay nila e.
ReplyDeleteParang pinalitan niya sa trono si wais na misis.
ReplyDeleteCommon yang ganyang issue sa lahat ng simbahan. lol
ReplyDeleteBig scam ang religion. Obligasyon mo pang magbigay ng pera mo. I will help people in my own way na nakikita mo saan napupunta ang pera and not sa mga religion. Kahit anong religion, nagbibigay ng pera. Wala namang trabaho itong si Rica pero nakakakain ng mahigit pa sa 3x a day and lives a very comfortable way.
ReplyDeleteMoney is the root of all evil but churches like asking for "donations" :D :D :D If you give more, you will get into heaven... promise ;) ;) ;)
ReplyDeleteLove of money teh. Not money. Papel lang yan, walang buhay kaya hindi magiging root of evil. Pero love of money, yeah.
DeleteCorrection Penoy! "Love" of money is the root of all evil. Hindi money lang kasi money is essential. Greed and love of money ang kasalanan.
DeleteMAY PERA SA RELIGION!
ReplyDeleteyun lang...
Walang manloloko kung walang magpapaloko. Ang pinakayamang organizations ay simbahan. Kinakalakal nila ang kahinaan Ng mananampalataya. Dereyso na lang sa Diyos kung may kailangan. Bakit kelangan pa ang kanilang ga false prophet agapay.
ReplyDeleteThat’s why I prefer the Catholic Church kc you’re not obligated to give them 10% of your income.
ReplyDeletetrue... but reminder lang po... we are obligated to provide for the church's needs... hindi lang talaga garapal ang CC .... magbigay ka ayon sa konsensya mo
DeleteMy Tito is a pastor. i work as an administrator,gusto nya humingi ako ng project sa mayor namin and sya maging contractor,i said NO. he even called my husband to asked for help and explain na pambawi lang daw sa gastos during election (my father run as vm). bahala sya kahit ung buong church nya pa makiusap sa akin hindi ko pagbigyan. the nerve
ReplyDeleteJust so you know yung pera na binibigay nyo sa churches kusang loob na binigay nyo yon. Wala na kayo pakialam kung saan o paano gagamitin ang pera kasi donasyon nyo yun wala na kayong rights doon. Dami entitled 🙄
ReplyDeleteUy meron. Paano makakapag preach ng humility at austerity ang mega church na maluluho ang leaders? May disconnect. Lol.
DeleteBased sa comment inaamin nya na kurakot yung former church nya?
ReplyDeleteAng yabang ng pagkakasabi mo
ReplyDeleteDi ko talaga masisi anak ko bakit naging atheist na. Dati namang naniniwala sa Diyos pero because of these religious groups, nawalan tuloy ng gana hanggang nawalan na rin ng paniniwala sa existence ng Diyos. But I'm still praying hard na sana kahit man lang ang paniniwala na may Diyos talaga ang bumalik sa kanya kahit wag na panininiwala to a religious faith.🙏🥹
ReplyDeletekaya when i was in Victory, i don't give tithes, rather i give them directly to foundations/feeding projects.
ReplyDeleteyes, mayaman na ang church.
DeleteThat’s why I don’t have faith in religious cults especially that of Quiboloy. Pugad ng kasamaan at pang-aabuso. Buti na lang nakakulong na sya.
ReplyDeleteThis is so true. Yung ibang pari nga sa catholic use money from church para gumala kasama pamilya and ofc secret lang. Hay kahit saan talaga may korapsyon.
ReplyDeleteyang mga church gumagamit ng mga sikat na artista para makahikayat ng mga magsisimba tapos kailangan kasi may percentage ka talaga na idodonate sa kanila. Dyan sila kumikita sa collection kaya kung mahirap ka, hindi ka imbitado sa church na yan dahil wala kang ambag.Kaya dapat i lifestyle check din mga pastor at mga church, Yan ang napakadaling negosyo para yumaman
ReplyDeletevictory papa ni paul soriano diba? yan din naging issue nila pacquiao dami daw hinihingi para maka pag preach si pacquiao donation speakers and microphones and many more
ReplyDeleteLahat corrupt pati Media and Showbiz corrupt din walang malinis.
ReplyDeleteA lot of these religions use God’s name para panakot. Napaka toxic na sect. I myself experienced that. Talamak mga corruption sa religion lalo inflation all over the world, need nila manakot para madami abuloy. Yung ibang member nag ispy din sa socmed. They’re like demons.
ReplyDeleteChurches do not pay taxes. Imagine 100 plus years na ang isang religion na kumukuha ng abuloy ng mga tao without paying taxes sa pinas. Abay, billionaires na ang mga may ari ng cult nila.
ReplyDeleteNadungisan na ang Victory at nadamay na rin ang ibang nga Born Again churches. Nakakahiya sa Diyos, mga pastor na matitino na mga members ninyo.
ReplyDeleteOne Holy Catholic Apostolic Church. Isa lang ang bride ni Kristo... hindi 40K denominations
DeleteKahit noon pa kaduda duda yang cult nila. Puros flex ng mga luxurious items during church service at sapilitan ang tithe. Kakaloka!
ReplyDelete