Mas masahol pa mga models kasi di lang managers ang ngte-take advantage sayo. Everytime i see a model, nakakaawa din kc most if not all are exposed to evil side of the industry. Worse, sometimes they view it as normal practice na.
Swerte ni Ms. Regine lagi nya kasama tatay nya tapos yung mga na meet nyang unang managers nya mga maayis until yung kapatod nya na si Cacai na lang ang naging manager nya.
Nothing new naman. Pero with all those things happening mapapaisip ka bakit may mga ibang singer naman maayos tumanda sa industry. It really boils down to who you trust. From label to management/manager to ngayon uso na ang glam team. Madami kase mga sabik sumakses at gusto instant fame kaya mga naloloko ng mga tao or company na tulad nung diniscribe nila na either memenusin ka or pagsasamantalahan ka monetary/s’xualfavors.
12.18 I don’t think so. Marami syang naipundar during the height of her career. Pati taty at kapatid nya nasuportahan nya. So I don’t think there’s economic abuse there.
2:05 so anong kinalaman ng mga napundar nya sa issue?! hindi dahil nakapagpundar ang tao at nakatulong sya sa pamilya at hindi na sya naloko at nataken advatage! kaloka ka! baka mas marami pa sana siyang naibulsa sa mga pinaghirapan nya kung hindi sya na victimize ng kalakalan sa showbiz. oh c’mon!
Ayan ka na naman 2:05 dini-discredit mo na naman naranasan ni Liza. Halos may similarity nga yung nasabi niya sa nakwento nila jay-r. Fanatic ka lang ng LT or dating fan niya or fan ka nung ex
Abroad your main people that will make or break your career are your AGENT-who finds you work, will book you for gig and negotiate your contract that earns about 10% commissions and your MANAGER who is your personalized shrink problem solver who manages your day to day needs and schedules, training and development, in charge of your branding who earns 10-20 commissions from gross income, that means whatever expenses like lawyers, accountants, glamour clothes, make up artist, stylist etc will still come from the artist’s pocket. But in the Philippines, the manager acts as both the agent and manager as they are responsible for finding you work, pay people to put you in the limelight, hire a road manager etc. was the one who invested money for acting , singing and dancing classes when you can’t afford it before success, probably gave you roof in your head too, but the artist’s piece of the pie shrink if you add a management studio like GMA. Sparkles or ABSCBN Star Magic who now in charge of your career and your original manager reduced to being a personal bodyguard of your career and day to day schedules but can still find you other projects outside the talent agency like hosting, sign you up to lucrative advertising gig etc. So an artist can’t say that a 10M contract should only belong to me because “I’m the one with the talent and face of the image” because there is a lot of people not just the artist behind that image and talent.
I remember yung interviews ng mga sikat na artista about their early struggling times. Halos majority sa kanila nakwekwento yung nag eextra sila na ang TF for example 1K pero may ibabawas na 50% sa manager nila then 30% sa talent coordinator. So nauuwi nila 20% or 200 pesos for a whole puyatan shooting. Kaya dapat icover din yan ng Eddie Garcia bill pero since hindi naman na apektado yung big stars, and feeling nila since napagdaanan nila ay norm na at kailangan din pagdaanan ng iba, deadma na lang sila sa bulok na sistema..
tapos yabang ng mga manager na yan na feeling dios na kung hindi DAW dahil sa kanila hindi sisikat ang talent haha! for me pag ang talent may x factor sisikat at sisikat yan kahit sino pang manager ang maghandle. yung hindi ka talaga pansinin, waley ka. kaya alam din ng manager sa simula palang kung magiging money making machine ang talent at they take advantage of it tsk
pag sikat ang talent manager talagang 50 50 kasi pinapasikat pa lang ang da who na artista. So hindi nila alam kung kakagat ba ang masa dyan sa baguhang dawho
Kean? As in Kean Cipriano? I remember pa angat na yung group of 4 of Spades non kasi maganda music nila tapos etong si kean kinuha yung main vocalist tapos hindi rin nabigyan ng career. Hopefully makaangat ulit now that the vocalist is back on that group
ayun nga sinulsulan yan ni kian tapos hindi naman binayaran ng maayos, ngayon nganga ang 4 of spades hindi nakabalik sa dati nilang kinang. Nasilaw din kasi yung vocalist na sumama kay kian, thinking mapapasikat siya nito, e kung si kian nga hindi na sikat paano siya papasikatin?duh
Oo sinabi na rin ni Liza ito. Kaya zJR and Mica prepare yourselves for the attack from managers and the label ingrata. Don't say that artists have improved their lives. Because its the same with managers. I agree with Jay R na sila smg naghihirap, nagpeperform. Nagshooshoot ng endorsements like zlizas case. Yung managers buo yung 30% na commission. Yung artists sa 70% ibabawas costs ng outfits, MUA, taxes, kung may management ka pa like sa ABS may 10% pa rin sila. In the end, ang makukuha na lang nila 40%. 10% lang ang edge ng artists v managers. This is clearly economic abuse. IMO
pero on the other hand, mga dawho ang mga artistang walang matinong managers, wala silang kapit so sino ang kukuha sa kanila for any gig. Yun ang binabayaran for management
This is the reason why SB19 paid for their brand name and founded 1Z entertainment; and even fought against the norms. They almost lost everything 2 years ago dahil lang sa di sila sumabay sa agos ng nakasanayan. But true enough, kapag nasa tama ka at pinaghirapan mo, ibibigay sayo. Even Morisette, KZ and Sarah G.. umalis na sila at nagtayo na din ng sariling music label.
Actually even sa freelance industry like online teaching ganito din ang ganap. Imagine, they charge the students 180 pesos per 25 minute class, pero yung mapupunta lang sa trainer/teacher is 60 or lower.
Ang intindi ko dun sa unang photo is may ang hinaing ni Jat_R is about managers na nandaraya - 100K ang negotiated TF pero 10K lang ang sasabihin ng manager sa talent. Tapos kakaltas pa ng commission. This is CORRUPTION and is GROSSLY unfair sa talent. Pero yung 30% or 40% or 50% commission as manager, depende na talaga yun sa inyong contract. Pero kahit gaano katinik ang contract nyo, kung lalamangan ka ng manager mo, talo ka talaga. So work with people you really trust!
pero sa industriya lalo na showbiz, hindi makikilala ang isang talent or baguhan kung wala itong manager kaya exploitative ang manager lalo na halimbawa desperate ang artist kung breadwinner halimbawa ng buong angkan nila or galing sa kahirapan, dyan pumapasok ang prostitution pag bugaw na ang manager.
Corrupt talaga managers and talent agencies dyan sa pinas, lalagariin ka sa trabaho kahit suko na yon katawan. Diba nangyari din kay Nadine ito, tapos nabash pa sya na ingrata non nagsampa sya ng kaso against viva. Since bata pa sya at breadwinner, mukhang di ata sya naghire ng lawyer para double check kung anong nasa contract, buti nga nagkaayos na sila ngayon. Ngayon pwde na syang mamili ng movies at endorsements na gusto nyan gawin.
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ReplyDeleteMas masahol pa mga models kasi di lang managers ang ngte-take advantage sayo. Everytime i see a model, nakakaawa din kc most if not all are exposed to evil side of the industry. Worse, sometimes they view it as normal practice na.
DeleteJR is pure talent👌
Deletemag-asawa pala ito!
Deletewala akong alam na kanta nung Jay R hahahahaha
Deletesa models pugad yan ng high class proatitution and drugs to keep a certain body type.
DeleteSwerte ni Ms. Regine lagi nya kasama tatay nya tapos yung mga na meet nyang unang managers nya mga maayis until yung kapatod nya na si Cacai na lang ang naging manager nya.
DeleteNothing new naman. Pero with all those things happening mapapaisip ka bakit may mga ibang singer naman maayos tumanda sa industry. It really boils down to who you trust. From label to management/manager to ngayon uso na ang glam team. Madami kase mga sabik sumakses at gusto instant fame kaya mga naloloko ng mga tao or company na tulad nung diniscribe nila na either memenusin ka or pagsasamantalahan ka monetary/s’xualfavors.
ReplyDeleteMay say dito noon si Liza S. hmm
ReplyDelete12.18 I don’t think so. Marami syang naipundar during the height of her career. Pati taty at kapatid nya nasuportahan nya. So I don’t think there’s economic abuse there.
Delete2:05 so anong kinalaman ng mga napundar nya sa issue?! hindi dahil nakapagpundar ang tao at nakatulong sya sa pamilya at hindi na sya naloko at nataken advatage! kaloka ka! baka mas marami pa sana siyang naibulsa sa mga pinaghirapan nya kung hindi sya na victimize ng kalakalan sa showbiz. oh c’mon!
DeleteAyan ka na naman 2:05 dini-discredit mo na naman naranasan ni Liza. Halos may similarity nga yung nasabi niya sa nakwento nila jay-r. Fanatic ka lang ng LT or dating fan niya or fan ka nung ex
Delete2:05 malaki talaga kinikita ni Liza at malaki rin nakakaltas sa kanya. Di niya alam yun noon. Nagtiwala kasi siya. Pati tita niya, ang laki ng cut lol
Delete2:05 Pwede namang sabay na malaki kinita pero malaki din cut ng managers and handlers na hindi niya alam.
DeleteAbroad your main people that will make or break your career are your AGENT-who finds you work, will book you for gig and negotiate your contract that earns about 10% commissions and your MANAGER who is your personalized shrink problem solver who manages your day to day needs and schedules, training and development, in charge of your branding who earns 10-20 commissions from gross income, that means whatever expenses like lawyers, accountants, glamour clothes, make up artist, stylist etc will still come from the artist’s pocket. But in the Philippines, the manager acts as both the agent and manager as they are responsible for finding you work, pay people to put you in the limelight, hire a road manager etc. was the one who invested money for acting , singing and dancing classes when you can’t afford it before success, probably gave you roof in your head too, but the artist’s piece of the pie shrink if you add a management studio like GMA. Sparkles or ABSCBN Star Magic who now in charge of your career and your original manager reduced to being a personal bodyguard of your career and day to day schedules but can still find you other projects outside the talent agency like hosting, sign you up to lucrative advertising gig etc. So an artist can’t say that a 10M contract should only belong to me because “I’m the one with the talent and face of the image” because there is a lot of people not just the artist behind that image and talent.
Delete9:30 talagang malaki. Nagbabayad yata sya ng tax dito at sa US. Pero kahit ganon, malaki pa rin amg take home nya.
Deletepero katulad ng maraming nag showbiz hindi naman sila kilala pero dahil well connected ang manager nila kaya nabigyan ng magagandang projects
DeleteI remember so many people 🤣
ReplyDeleteMadami talaga may ganyan galawan. Minsan meron pang sub agent kuno nakikihati pa.
ReplyDeletehindi naman kasi kaya ng artista na pasikatin ang sarili niya without the connections of the manager
Delete10:02 kaya karapatdapat lang silang gulangan, tama ba? yun ba sinasabi mo
DeleteMay mga tao kasi n laway lng ang ambag sa trabaho at madami nian sa showbuz at politics
ReplyDeleteAminin nyo man o hindi, ang Philippine Showbiz ay isang malaking sindikato na puno ng corruption!
ReplyDeleteThats why showbiz and politics are birds of the same feather
Deletekorek not just corruption but abuse!
Deletemaraming manager bugaw, yang showbiz and prostitution ay magkasama
DeleteI remember yung interviews ng mga sikat na artista about their early struggling times. Halos majority sa kanila nakwekwento yung nag eextra sila na ang TF for example 1K pero may ibabawas na 50% sa manager nila then 30% sa talent coordinator. So nauuwi nila 20% or 200 pesos for a whole puyatan shooting. Kaya dapat icover din yan ng Eddie Garcia bill pero since hindi naman na apektado yung big stars, and feeling nila since napagdaanan nila ay norm na at kailangan din pagdaanan ng iba, deadma na lang sila sa bulok na sistema..
ReplyDeletetapos yabang ng mga manager na yan na feeling dios na kung hindi DAW dahil sa kanila hindi sisikat ang talent haha! for me pag ang talent may x factor sisikat at sisikat yan kahit sino pang manager ang maghandle. yung hindi ka talaga pansinin, waley ka. kaya alam din ng manager sa simula palang kung magiging money making machine ang talent at they take advantage of it tsk
DeleteGrabe yung 50% naman, ang taas masyado
Deletepag sikat ang talent manager talagang 50 50 kasi pinapasikat pa lang ang da who na artista. So hindi nila alam kung kakagat ba ang masa dyan sa baguhang dawho
DeleteAs a musician, I hate this too🙄
ReplyDeleteKean? As in Kean Cipriano? I remember pa angat na yung group of 4 of Spades non kasi maganda music nila tapos etong si kean kinuha yung main vocalist tapos hindi rin nabigyan ng career. Hopefully makaangat ulit now that the vocalist is back on that group
ReplyDeleteayun nga sinulsulan yan ni kian tapos hindi naman binayaran ng maayos, ngayon nganga ang 4 of spades hindi nakabalik sa dati nilang kinang. Nasilaw din kasi yung vocalist na sumama kay kian, thinking mapapasikat siya nito, e kung si kian nga hindi na sikat paano siya papasikatin?duh
DeleteOo sinabi na rin ni Liza ito. Kaya zJR and Mica prepare yourselves for the attack from managers and the label ingrata. Don't say that artists have improved their lives. Because its the same with managers. I agree with Jay R na sila smg naghihirap, nagpeperform. Nagshooshoot ng endorsements like zlizas case. Yung managers buo yung 30% na commission. Yung artists sa 70% ibabawas costs ng outfits, MUA, taxes, kung may management ka pa like sa ABS may 10% pa rin sila. In the end, ang makukuha na lang nila 40%. 10% lang ang edge ng artists v managers. This is clearly economic abuse. IMO
ReplyDeletepero on the other hand, mga dawho ang mga artistang walang matinong managers, wala silang kapit so sino ang kukuha sa kanila for any gig. Yun ang binabayaran for management
DeleteThis is the reason why SB19 paid for their brand name and founded 1Z entertainment; and even fought against the norms. They almost lost everything 2 years ago dahil lang sa di sila sumabay sa agos ng nakasanayan. But true enough, kapag nasa tama ka at pinaghirapan mo, ibibigay sayo.
ReplyDeleteEven Morisette, KZ and Sarah G.. umalis na sila at nagtayo na din ng sariling music label.
Kaya pala ang yaman ng mga managers ng artists, pero ang blood, sweat at hard work are mostly artista.
ReplyDeleteWhile managers are mostly sitting at the sidelines or answering phonecalls or negotiations
Actually even sa freelance industry like online teaching ganito din ang ganap. Imagine, they charge the students 180 pesos per 25 minute class, pero yung mapupunta lang sa trainer/teacher is 60 or lower.
ReplyDeleteAng intindi ko dun sa unang photo is may ang hinaing ni Jat_R is about managers na nandaraya - 100K ang negotiated TF pero 10K lang ang sasabihin ng manager sa talent. Tapos kakaltas pa ng commission. This is CORRUPTION and is GROSSLY unfair sa talent. Pero yung 30% or 40% or 50% commission as manager, depende na talaga yun sa inyong contract. Pero kahit gaano katinik ang contract nyo, kung lalamangan ka ng manager mo, talo ka talaga. So work with people you really trust!
ReplyDeleteThat sucks
ReplyDeletepero sa industriya lalo na showbiz, hindi makikilala ang isang talent or baguhan kung wala itong manager kaya exploitative ang manager lalo na halimbawa desperate ang artist kung breadwinner halimbawa ng buong angkan nila or galing sa kahirapan, dyan pumapasok ang prostitution pag bugaw na ang manager.
ReplyDeleteCorrupt talaga managers and talent agencies dyan sa pinas, lalagariin ka sa trabaho kahit suko na yon katawan. Diba nangyari din kay Nadine ito, tapos nabash pa sya na ingrata non nagsampa sya ng kaso against viva. Since bata pa sya at breadwinner, mukhang di ata sya naghire ng lawyer para double check kung anong nasa contract, buti nga nagkaayos na sila ngayon. Ngayon pwde na syang mamili ng movies at endorsements na gusto nyan gawin.
ReplyDeleteIt happens in any industry, mas malapa sa Hollywood and music industry, ganyan ang tao lalamang para umangat
ReplyDeleteFilipino culture na talaga ang manglamang at pagnakawan ang kapwa. Sad but reality bites.
ReplyDeleteMay hawig kay Lella yung girl
ReplyDelete