From a Major Incidents perspective, the priority in situations like these should be the initial response and addressing the needs of the bereaved families while investigations are still ongoing. Communication is also important and should happen in parallel, but formal speeches or statements are best made only when there is sufficient progress and verified information. I believe Ateneo handled it appropriately. We’ve become used to wanting immediate answers and action, which often leads to rushed decisions driven by emotion rather than careful judgment.
Kapal muks! After one week ngayon lang nagsalita following outrage from the public. Magbayad kayo sa dalawang pamilya na namatay. Makulong ang dapat makulong. This is a case of hazing or reckless imprudence resulting to homicide. Either case that's a crime and somebody must be jailed. Civil indemnity given na yan considering the fact of death.
I don’t think they reacted within an appropriate time 6:22. They were taking their time hoping that media attention would die down so they can sweep it under the rug, but the public reaction has gotten even louder and that is why they are choosing to react now. Bottom line, don’t trust your children with Ateneo. Their #1 priority, over the safety and well-being of anyone, is ensuring their prestige.
ATENEO thought by not speaking eh tatahimik ang issue. Akala nila pag binusalan mga coaches, past and present players eh the issue will die down. The more na kuliglig na lang nadidinig sa kanila, the more nagagalit ang public. Nakakabastos pa na puro Facebook post ang ginagawa nila. Parang si Cayetano na ayaw humarap sa Senado at puro FB live. Nakakabastos din na un Agusan LGU pa initially ang tumulong sa remains at naiwang family ni Rene. While yung remains ni Divine andun pa din sa morgue. Malinaw naman kasi na dalawang estudyante ang namatay under their watch and care. It doesn't take a genius to conclude na may kapabayaan ang Ateneo at mga coaches nila. Tapos yung gusto pang gawing fall guy yung resort owners na 300 meters from the resort ang ginawa nilang team building kuno
6:22 they did not even reach out to the families as soon as possible. Nakita mo ba video sa nanay ni Rene?! Sa social media niya pa nalaman!!!! Dami mong alam le is che! Taga ateneo ka siguro noh?
Press release kagad ang nipost sabay NDA sa mga possible witnesses with threats to remove their scholarships. Kung isa ang anak ko dun na kasama sa team bldg, tang*na, mawalan na ng scholarship ang anak ko at ilipat ko na lang sa state U kesa grumaduate sa punyetang school na yan.
If you focus on statistics at maging logical ka 7:48, sobrang daming students ng Ateneo and there were under 5 reported scandals the school got linked to for the past 10 years. Ateneo being negligent in these, sure. However you cannot dismiss the fact that majority of the students there have no problem with the institution. Wag mong nilalahat, wag kang mag generalise. Feeling ko may hidden anger ka lang sa school deep inside? Frustrated student ka ba na di makapasa don? Di maafford? What?
If you are intelligent enough, internet is available. Highest number of fatalities that were linked to universities in the Phillipines are UP and UST.
May problema din ba sa other sports team ng Ateneo? wala di ba? Yang men's basketball team lang. So diyan ka mag focus, wag mo idamay buong school. They give great education na kahit papano magkaroon maging competent ang pinoy worldwide.
10:33 lol not you making it a direct attack to the commenter. Saying hindi mo afford, hindi nakapasa.. haha taas ng tingin mo sa sarili mo at sa school mo ha. Pathetic
Kadalasan yung criminal liability ay charged sa natural persons or individuals, hindi sa institutions. Ibig sabihin, yung persons who planned, supervised, or authorized the activity bukod pa potentially school officials, depending on the evidence and the specific law involved.
It took them quite awhile....thisbis the result of oublic clamor. They tried to make people 'stop talking' by inserting the narrative of 'let people grieve, you stop fuelling the fire, etc.' On many social media platforms including here on FP. Many of younprobably noticed. But people who are morallynoutraged and felt the suffering of the families and the hearybreaknof the 2 dead athletes just can't stop the outrsge. They, like manynof my kaFPs here, stood their ground and clamoured for action and justice.
Ateneo de Manila - isn't it too late? This is thenfirst step, these coaches must face legal justice now. But it doesn't exclude you. Ultimately, these coaches did what they did under the authority you gave them other than the coaching staff, someone else above administratively, whk did jot put the safety measures innplace and allowed the practice to happen must also resign. Reform and accountability must take place. Then, you will now how to pay liability damages to the families - for their loss.
The university must also be suspended for a time sa UAAP until they put in place safety measures. Ll your sports teams and other practices must institute risk assessment and ensure safety so this does not happen again.
Sa US baka negligence resulting to homicide yan.. kasuhan ang mga responsible at pay damages sa family 100million each. Kulang pa yan. Walang katumbas na pera ang mawalan ng anak.. baka kung ako dko kayanin mawala ako sa sarili…
Bakit ba kayo galit na galit na "late" lang mag salita? Eh di ba nga nag salita sila noon, nagalit din kayo dahil super bilis? Sa sobrang bilis, naunahan pa mag release ng statement kesa iconsole yung family ng mga victims. O di ba dun kayo imbyerna? Bat ngayong imbyerna parin? SMH
Sorry is not justice served. The families of Rene and Adil should pursue legal cases against the coaches and the school. Someone must be jailed and pay legal damages. Dalawang buhay ang nawala, hello. Hindi ito aksidente. May negligence resulting to deaths.
The question is.. Nag resign or pinag resign? Hindi enough na yung coaches ang pangutin. Liable din ang institution.. Dapat panagitin din ang admu.. The coaches worked under you. So liability and responsibility does not end with them. Kasama ang authorities above them
alam nyo father bigyan nyo ng linaw, ipainterview nyo ang mga players na witness sa pangyayari ganun din ang hotel staff para naman mabigyan linaw ang pagkamatay ng dalawang athletes
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Kaloka si father. One week bago gagalaw?! Parang downgrade ang buong Ateneo. I mean max 3 days dapat may presscon na and all. One week talaga?!
ReplyDeleteEh kasi maiksi lang attention span ng Pinoy. Makakalimutan din daw
DeleteFrom a Major Incidents perspective, the priority in situations like these should be the initial response and addressing the needs of the bereaved families while investigations are still ongoing. Communication is also important and should happen in parallel, but formal speeches or statements are best made only when there is sufficient progress and verified information.
DeleteI believe Ateneo handled it appropriately. We’ve become used to wanting immediate answers and action, which often leads to rushed decisions driven by emotion rather than careful judgment.
Kapal muks! After one week ngayon lang nagsalita following outrage from the public. Magbayad kayo sa dalawang pamilya na namatay. Makulong ang dapat makulong. This is a case of hazing or reckless imprudence resulting to homicide. Either case that's a crime and somebody must be jailed. Civil indemnity given na yan considering the fact of death.
DeleteI don’t think they reacted within an appropriate time 6:22. They were taking their time hoping that media attention would die down so they can sweep it under the rug, but the public reaction has gotten even louder and that is why they are choosing to react now. Bottom line, don’t trust your children with Ateneo. Their #1 priority, over the safety and well-being of anyone, is ensuring their prestige.
DeleteATENEO thought by not speaking eh tatahimik ang issue. Akala nila pag binusalan mga coaches, past and present players eh the issue will die down. The more na kuliglig na lang nadidinig sa kanila, the more nagagalit ang public. Nakakabastos pa na puro Facebook post ang ginagawa nila. Parang si Cayetano na ayaw humarap sa Senado at puro FB live. Nakakabastos din na un Agusan LGU pa initially ang tumulong sa remains at naiwang family ni Rene. While yung remains ni Divine andun pa din sa morgue.
DeleteMalinaw naman kasi na dalawang estudyante ang namatay under their watch and care. It doesn't take a genius to conclude na may kapabayaan ang Ateneo at mga coaches nila. Tapos yung gusto pang gawing fall guy yung resort owners na 300 meters from the resort ang ginawa nilang team building kuno
Kapag hindi magsasalita, may comment. Pag magsalita, may comment pa rin. ano na gagawen.
Delete6:22 they did not even reach out to the families as soon as possible. Nakita mo ba video sa nanay ni Rene?! Sa social media niya pa nalaman!!!! Dami mong alam le is che! Taga ateneo ka siguro noh?
DeletePress release kagad ang nipost sabay NDA sa mga possible witnesses with threats to remove their scholarships. Kung isa ang anak ko dun na kasama sa team bldg, tang*na, mawalan na ng scholarship ang anak ko at ilipat ko na lang sa state U kesa grumaduate sa punyetang school na yan.
7:48 hindi stupid ang Ateneo to think that it will die down after 7 days. Don't be too naive.
DeleteIf you focus on statistics at maging logical ka 7:48, sobrang daming students ng Ateneo and there were under 5 reported scandals the school got linked to for the past 10 years. Ateneo being negligent in these, sure. However you cannot dismiss the fact that majority of the students there have no problem with the institution. Wag mong nilalahat, wag kang mag generalise. Feeling ko may hidden anger ka lang sa school deep inside? Frustrated student ka ba na di makapasa don? Di maafford? What?
DeleteIf you are intelligent enough, internet is available. Highest number of fatalities that were linked to universities in the Phillipines are UP and UST.
May problema din ba sa other sports team ng Ateneo? wala di ba? Yang men's basketball team lang. So diyan ka mag focus, wag mo idamay buong school. They give great education na kahit papano magkaroon maging competent ang pinoy worldwide.
base from my understanding ang may hawak ng basketball is alumni association foundation at smart comms. kaya siguro sila hirap magsalita
Delete10:33 lol not you making it a direct attack to the commenter. Saying hindi mo afford, hindi nakapasa.. haha taas ng tingin mo sa sarili mo at sa school mo ha. Pathetic
Delete1033 wag mo idamay ang UST at UP
DeleteThey need to be convicted! Come on Philippines law!
ReplyDeleteAteneo dapat ang managot.. hindi naman gagawin ng mga coach if you walang approval and school !
ReplyDeletesira! yun coach may kasalanan! wala na hawak ateneo dyan. isip isip
Deletedin!
Kadalasan yung criminal liability ay charged sa natural persons or individuals, hindi sa institutions. Ibig sabihin, yung persons who planned, supervised, or authorized the activity bukod pa potentially school officials, depending on the evidence and the specific law involved.
DeleteTrue leadership is shown not only in success but also in owning up to shortcomings. Hoping this paves the way for healing and trust.
ReplyDeletePinagresign o takot lang makulong?
ReplyDelete6:31 pwede pa rin naman makulong kahit nagresign
Deletekinausap na yan ni fr kaso di sila
ReplyDeletema
media. yan ang totoo no! walang kasalanan si fr. habulin niyo yan tab baldwin na yan!
It took them quite awhile....thisbis the result of oublic clamor. They tried to make people 'stop talking' by inserting the narrative of 'let people grieve, you stop fuelling the fire, etc.' On many social media platforms including here on FP. Many of younprobably noticed. But people who are morallynoutraged and felt the suffering of the families and the hearybreaknof the 2 dead athletes just can't stop the outrsge. They, like manynof my kaFPs here, stood their ground and clamoured for action and justice.
ReplyDeleteAteneo de Manila - isn't it too late? This is thenfirst step, these coaches must face legal justice now. But it doesn't exclude you. Ultimately, these coaches did what they did under the authority you gave them other than the coaching staff, someone else above administratively, whk did jot put the safety measures innplace and allowed the practice to happen must also resign. Reform and accountability must take place. Then, you will now how to pay liability damages to the families - for their loss.
The university must also be suspended for a time sa UAAP until they put in place safety measures. Ll your sports teams and other practices must institute risk assessment and ensure safety so this does not happen again.
Sa US baka negligence resulting to homicide yan.. kasuhan ang mga responsible at pay damages sa family 100million each. Kulang pa yan. Walang katumbas na pera ang mawalan ng anak.. baka kung ako dko kayanin mawala ako sa sarili…
ReplyDeleteAng mga mag comment dito halatang hindi tinapos ang video at mahina comprehension. Sigh
ReplyDeleteYan ang pinoy eh. Urada lagi!
DeleteFr. with the faux tears. Tsk tsk.
ReplyDeleteAteneo's rep down the drain. Yung response niyo ang tagal
ReplyDeleteTheir apologies aren't enough.
ReplyDeleteThey should be held accountable and penalized for the death of these 2 student athletes. They caused their death😔,
Bakit ba kayo galit na galit na "late" lang mag salita? Eh di ba nga nag salita sila noon, nagalit din kayo dahil super bilis? Sa sobrang bilis, naunahan pa mag release ng statement kesa iconsole yung family ng mga victims. O di ba dun kayo imbyerna? Bat ngayong imbyerna parin? SMH
ReplyDeleteSus alam mo naman mga Filipinos, sala sa init...sala sa lamig. Di na nga nagiisip, attack lang ng attack.
DeleteAfter their resignation, everything will be back to normal :D :D :D Asa pa kayong may justice ;) ;) ;)
ReplyDeletei know some will say ang tagal ng response. considering Ateneo's part, i think they put a lot of consideration before speaking out.
ReplyDeleteThe male basketball team should not join UAAP this season. Out of delicadeza.
ReplyDeleteSorry is not justice served. The families of Rene and Adil should pursue legal cases against the coaches and the school. Someone must be jailed and pay legal damages. Dalawang buhay ang nawala, hello. Hindi ito aksidente. May negligence resulting to deaths.
ReplyDeleteThe question is.. Nag resign or pinag resign? Hindi enough na yung coaches ang pangutin. Liable din ang institution.. Dapat panagitin din ang admu.. The coaches worked under you. So liability and responsibility does not end with them. Kasama ang authorities above them
ReplyDeletealam nyo father bigyan nyo ng linaw, ipainterview nyo ang mga players na witness sa pangyayari ganun din ang hotel staff para naman mabigyan linaw ang pagkamatay ng dalawang athletes
ReplyDeleteMay prestige nga pero walang empathy at konsensya. Sayang yung mga bata
ReplyDelete