If it's too big, it has to be checked in. Wheelchair nga chinecheck-in. Stop trying to get any special treatments. Policy is a policy. Im glad they didn't bend the rules for you, even if your sister.
3:15 Kindly read it again. Gerard only shared the complaint, he was asking for a clarification. Hindi naman sya nagpapaka-celebrity, maayos yung tanong nya.
We often travel to different countries as a string quartet (manageable) and sometimes an orchestra (headache!). We buy tickets for the large instruments. Usually it gets strapped into its own seat (expensive). Sometimes it gets into a special compartment within the cabin (cheaper fee), overhead’s too small for some instruments. Made arrangements with the airline ahead of time, during booking. No problem naman either PAL, or many other airlines.
Kulang po sa space. Ang ukulele po maliit lang. Ang gitara kahit gano kagaan mahaba. Tsaka hindi ka din naman papayag na patingan ng bag ang gitara mo kahit nasa case pa.
Sis binasa mo ba ung reply o d ka maka intindi? Ung overhead space nila maliit, di kasya ang guitars or piano or what not. Ukulele is allowed since maliit sya and can probably fit inside overhead space
THEY NEED TO BUY A SEAT FOR THEIR INSTRUMENTS IF IT'S TOO BIG. THEY CALL IT EXTRA SEAT OR CABIN BAGGAGE. DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE NOT AWARE IF THEY ARE FREQUENT TRAVELERS?
Anon 1:47 kasya naman pero ang point dun sasakupin buong overhead. Nakasakay ka na ba ng eroplano? Pano naman ibang may handcarry luggage wala sila paglagyan nun di ba.
1:47 at 3:50 Sinabi din ng PAL na for safety purposes. Maliban sa size na pinag lalaban niyo, eh para din sa safety ng pasahero since pag nagka gulo pwede ihampas ung instrument sa kahit na sino dun
Musical instruments are very expensive. I mean VERY expensive. Some are even priceless. Airlines employees are known for mishandling and breaking these instruments and most of them doesn't pay the whole value when broken or lost. That's why a lot top international airlines allow hand carry to put in a special bin of musical instruments.
@1:19, well, when he pointed out himself being a musician and mentioned his sister being an endorser and again himself as the one who made their inflight intro, he isn't just mere asking for clarification.
Anon 1:24 Then he should pay for the extra cabin fee. If you can afford these VERY expensive instruments then you can certainly afford the fee. Theres a set space for equally allocates for all passengers. If you require additional space, which he does, then pay up.
dear, napakamahal ng musical instruments especially violins. tapos hagis hagis lang ng airline personnel? minsan pa nga 10 taon pinagipunan ng musician ang instrumento nya tapos pagsakay ng eroplano, sira! paano naman naging entitled if he only emphasized na napakahalaga ng instrumento sa musikerong gaya nya. madami na syang nadalang karangalan sa bansa, kalabisan ba ang magtanong ng maayos?
1:24 Then they should pay for the cabin overhead fees like what PAL. Kung mahal yung gamit mo for sure you can afford to pay additional for that very expensive musical item. Its like why buy a STRADIVARIUS if you can’t afford TOPNOTCH insurance
You guys are so naive if you think by putiing "fragile", they actually treat it as babasagin. Simple google will show you tons of airline complaints about missing baggages and broken "fragile" items.
9:37 Simpleng skincare items ko nga na binili sa korea na delivered by fedex, basag yung lid nung nakarating sakin eh tadtad na nga ng fragile sticker yung kahon. At mali ka kasi may special bin ang airlines para sa musical instruments. I've seen people hand instruments, carseats at hand carry na medical equipments sa stewardess pagsakay sa eroplano para ilagay sa separate storage bins/room.
Im right now travelling,walang special treatment or special bin.At lalong strict dito sa ibang bansa pagdating sa luggage size.You will hand the big items to the person on the counter.Checked in lahat yan.Walang nagdala ng malalaking bagay.Magkamali ka lang dito sa international airline,ipapa iwan mga luggage mo or you will pay extra.
Hindi naman entitled yung nag ask lag ng clarification. He shared the complaint to ask kung ano yung reason talaga. He was not the complainant. Plus he mentioned frequent flyer sila ng PAL meaning they love PAL and sana magsabi ng matinong dahilan.
pinagiipunan ng karamihan sa mga musikero yan para makagawa ng magandang musika na papakinggan nio sa gabi o sa panahon na mag-isa kayo sa sasakyan at nakikinig ng radio. hindi porke't may mamahaling violin eh mayaman na. karamihan dyan, gusto lang maganda ang kalidad ng musika. sana lang ung mga fragile na gamit, wag naman iitsa itsa lang kasi pinagpapaguran yan at pinagiipunan. ang nanay at tatay ko, pinagaral kami sa pamamagitan ng pagiging musikero. hindi kalakihan ang kita pero tulad nyo na ang kaligayahan eh kotse o sapatos, ang sa kanila eh violin at gitara. sana lang talaga, wag iitsa itsa ang mga musical instruments dahil kadalasan, bumubuhay yan ng ilang pamilya. salamat!
Its not. May kakilala ako na nawala ng airline yung pamanang violin sa kanya ng deceased mom nya. And the airline employees were being rude about it pa.
Guidelines ng eroplano un. Itawag muna or mag abiso if magdadala ng mga ganyan bagay. Take it or leave it. Wag dalin kung ayaw ipabagahe! Rules dpat sumunod. Hay
Did you even bother reading whose post was Gerard was quoting from? He was simply and politely asking PAL for clarifications. How did he come of as not calming down?
Kaysa nga pero baka the instrument can occupy the whole space. Meaning sa isang overhead share kayo ng katabi mo. Or Baka full flight sila. Kaya Hinde allowed ?
d ka maka intindi? Ung overhead space nila maliit, di kasya ang guitars or piano or what not. Ukulele is allowed since maliit sya and can probably fit inside overhead space. Besides for security purposes eh paano kung may nag amok na pasahero at binalibag ung instrument sa iba
Airlines like quantas, singapore and and british airways for example has special bin for instruments and other high value large hand carry. You will hand the instrument when you enter the plane. Phil air should do the same kasi marami talaga silang lost items.
1:48 wag pilosopo. Piano sa overhead space? Pencilcase lang?
I think it's a valid point na kung kasya naman bakit di pa din inallow. Ang ukelele hindi pwede ibaliga kung may mag amok? May string pa nga yun na delikado din kung iisipin e
2:12 those airlines you mentioned does not allow hand carry items that do not fit the luggage size.You will have to check the items in.Then they place a fragile sticker to your important luggage.
11:29 Yes they do, i know coz i've done it before not with musical instrument though. It was artworks for me and the stewardess took it from me to put in a separate storage upon entering the plane and gave it back when we landed. Same thing happened with my baby stroller.
1:15 baka kasi masyadong malaki ang sports items mo. I was allowed to hand carry the artwork that I purchased and the airline stowed it for me and gave it back paglapag ng eroplano. This is the reason why singapore airlines at quantas are my preferred airliner. Emirates and ANA (japan) are very good too. They are very accomodating. PAL has a lot of growing up to do.
Baka sudden change ang policy nila kaya kaya nabigla yung mga musicians, especially since madaming int'l flights ang PAL. Maraming instruments na kahit na sa hard case pa, maliit pa sa hand carry luggage at mas magaan. Sayang na rin ang babayaran mong ipa check in kung pwede namang hand carry.
Hindi pwede kasi ilalagay yan sa luggage compartment sa itaas,e may size naman dapat para maglagay din yung iba pang pasahero ng Kanikanilang luggage.Gusto mo,magbayad ka na lang ng extra,kasi parang pag lampas sa sukat ata ipapa check in sa iyo at hindi hand carry
Allowed yan sa check in kasi ilang beses akong nakadala ng sports items at nilalagyan ng tatak,fragile.Mahaba din kasi yung ibang sports items na dala ko.Magbabayad ka lang sa counter.
Meron naman,magbayad talaga sa counter for that.Pero hindi madadala as hand carry lalo na kung mas mahaba or mabigat than the allowed size.Very strict dito sa US.
For sure naging policy yan kasi nagkaroon na ng bad incident before. We should also be mindful of other passengers.. And if its for the sake of all esp safety.. THEN JUST ABIDE SA RULES.
Pero sana ma-handle with care din 'yung instruments if nilagay sa checkin. Minsan kasi bara bara mga tagahawak eh. Kuwawa din dahil mahal instruments.
WHY NEVER FLY?? JUST BECAUSE OF THE ZERO TOLERANCE FOR INSTRUMENTS? GERALD— maybe for those musicians who are have violins, guitars and other small instruments. HINDI lahat ng tao musicians kaya never encourage everyone not to fly PAL , no?!
Baka gusto mong basahin ulit yung post. Hindi si Gerard ang nag-encourage sa mga tao to "never fly Philippine Airlines..." He was asking on behalf of his friend; thus, he linked his friend's initial post. Yung friend nya ang nagsabing "never fly..." Basahin kasi muna ng maigi bago magreact. And his names is Gerard NOT Gerald.
Due to limited overhead space. Ukuleles are of the same size as just small luggages or even smaller. Its very understandable for PAL to not allow other type of musical instruments that's bigger and longer than a luggage like guitar for example. PAl also does not allow personal wheelchairs and strollers. And I believe that is fair for everyone. If you allow one passenger to bring something that would eat up a lot of space, might as well allow everyone. Though it is very unlikely for every passenger to bring a guitar on the same flight, it's just nice to have guidelines and policies on black and white.
Correct.I am in the airport,travelling back to Manila.Ive seen passengers na may strollers at binawal sa counter,they need to show the items then it needs to be checked in,not hand carried.
Mga nag cocomment wala ring alam sa policies. Pwede hes just asking kayo naman hindin niyo pa ba experience din and you don't know what instrument he's asking about. Hes aking if in general thats the policy or certain lang.
If his instruments kaysa sa overhead Paano kung yung carry on mo can occupy one whole overhead? Paano naman yung katabi mo? Sympre in one row you share in one overhead right? Example sa isang row Tatlo kayo diba? Paano naman katabi mo? Second, baka that’s their new rules na bago na that need to follow sympre May mga sharp objects din mga instruments na yan that can use for terrorism while your on flight Hinde natin alam diba? Usually mga gamit nila nasa malaki hardcase talaga as in heavy duty na parang baul made of metal na makapal. Not unless Kung Sikat na Sikat ka kuha ka na Lang ng private plane doon pwede mo isakay ang instrument mo.
Yan din ang point ko kanina.Its not just about the compartment,its his musical instrument taking up the whole space of the luggage compartment na para sa iba pang passengers.
Sana, hand carry ang musical instruments and then handed to the flight attendant, there’s another closet for coats and stuff, it can go in there. Special arrangements can be made sana.
Kahit sa ibang international airlines, hindi din allowed na i-hand carry ang musical instrument if it exceeds a certain allowable length. Pwede i-hand carry pero you have to pay for an extra seat.
Ang bigat kaya ng gamit nila sige lets just say if share kayo ni passenger ng isang overhead Tapos bigla pag bukas mo nahulog si instrument sino liable Edi nag bukas... safety first! Violin at ukelele pwede naman ksi yun pwede mo yun hawak or itago Sa ilalim ng upuan.
It's not him ata but his friend. Anyway, Kalimitan kasi ang mga airlines purposely yung overbooking lalo na pag international ang flight tapos ang unang seat na kinacancel is extra seats. Hindi guarantee ang extra seat. So what are they supposed to do then?
Nahiya naman si Gerard sa 'yo. He might have INITIALLY gain popularity as he is naturally associated with his famous sister BUT Gerard is a well-known conductor and composer. He is a very successful musician in his own right. Hindi lang si Lea ang namamayagpag sa larangang ginagalawan nya. Lea is well known kasi nasa harap sya ng entablado, while Gerard works mostly behind the scenes. He graduated in Ateneo and pursued his education in Berkelee University sa Boston, Massachusetts where he graduated as summa cum laude. Worked with Sony Pictures and for a time, with Ryan Cayabyab, among others. Siguro sya nga yung sinasabi mong "typical musician" kasi mas kilala sya sa labas ng bansa natin dahil doon mas maraming nakaka-appreciate ng ginagawa nya. :p
Dont be stupid. To be a conductor you have to "know" music. You have to be a musician first and skilled in music theory. The level of discipline and precise skill that classical musicians and practitioners need, di yan typical. genius ka ha? patawa ka
Ha? Nag aral sya ng Music. Summa cum Laude pa. Music is his profession. That's how he makes money. So paano sya hindi naging professional musician? Give him credit dahil pinaghirapan nya naman yung mga naabot nya, not because of his sister.
HUUUY! Kilabutan ka diyan! Gerard Salonga has already made a name for himself as a musical arranger, conductor, and musical director. Hindi porket hindi sya frontliner or stage talent like Lea, 'nahatak' lang sya - he has his own kind of exceptional musical talent.
Not a professional musician? He's summa cum laude from Berklee College of Music. And an orchestral conductor there in Pinas and abroad. Arranges music, too. If that's typical musician to you, your standard must be off the charts. I don't think even his sister can help him be a TOYM awardee, his achievements are all his.
Inshort pwede naman as long as you pay! Avail their cabin baggage services. So choice mo na kung mag aavail ka or hanap ka nalang ng ibang airlines na walang fee yung pagdala ng instruments as hand carry. Hahaha. Easy money for PAL
I think PAL changed its rules kc in 2015 when we moved here in CA through PAL, my husband handcarried his acoustic guitar. Of course it won’t fit in overhead bin kaya they took and put somewhere else. Before kami bumaba, dinala rin mismo ng cabin crew sa seat namin ung guitar.
Exactly. That's how other airlines do it too. Baka kasi naisip nila na mas kikita sila kung pipilitin nilang bumili ng extra seat yung passengers. Greedy naman.
Bakit hindi niya irekta sa PAL ang complaints or rants niya,bakit magpapapansin sa socmed.Im sure nagiisip naman sila at hindi naman tayong lahat tiga PAL
sa ibang airline walng kaso ang hand carry na instrument, di talaga recommended ang check in kasi itinatapon tapon lang naman ang bagahe. Tsaka di naman talaga maganda sa PAL
Hellloooo?! Napaka no-brainer na dapat nito. Hindi ba nagiisip si Gerard? Of course hindi pwede kasi hindi kasya. If allowed, sige nga san nya balak ilagay gitara nya? Hahawakan nya? Even the smallest of handbags nga airlines are strict about having them tucked under the seats in front of you, kasi po Gerard pwedeng lumipad yun at tumama sa kung kanino man lalo na kung may heavy turbulence etc. Ano ba. Mandadamay ka pa ng ibang pasahero
Eh di ba bawal nga ang my matulis or something hard that can be used as a weapon? If its sumthing big and it has parts which are pointy, i babawal din nman yan s immigration.. so my tama nman ang PAL dto..
Allen Meek plays trombone. Walang matulis sa trombone teh. Its about the size of a trumpet. Not big. I can understand why he's mad because it could break easily if checked in and for that size, PAL could've accomodated him easily. Its ridiculous to pay extra seat for a mere trombone.
Napa-entitle nman nito. Sinabi pa talaga na dating endorser ng PAL.ang kapatid niya.
Listed nman lahat ng mga items na hindi puwede as hand carry. Mahirap bng sumunod? Kong hindi pwede huwag ipilit. Si Lea nga nag post pa one time dahil ng paggamit ng phone sa theater eh.
PAL broke my violin (a Stradivarius). They replied to me that it was my fault since it wasnt packed well. If you have high value objects, like your livelihood depends on it. Ask first before booking a flight. Better safe than sorry.
Ganito kasi,if you are carrying oversized stuff,you need to declare it sa may desk pa lang so that they can accomodate your items,lets say stroller etc.May nakasulat din na fragile.Yin nga lang kailangan kang mag bayad ng extra.In my case,we bring fisging rods etc when we fly.
I have a friend who is violinist. And experienced din nya for checked-in yung violin niya. pero no matter what happens, need talaga i hand-carry yung violin niya dahil it cost more than a Million. Minsan napapakiusapan naman yung FA. Okay sana kung maingat sila sa mga luggages eh.. Kahit nakalagay na fragile, minsan hindi maiiwasan ang pagkasira dahil hindi sila maingat.
Mag bayad ka na lang ng extra seat!!! Napaka entitled mo naman at nanumbat ka pa. I’m sure iniisip ng PAL ang kapakanan ng lahat at hindi lang kayo na musicians. Haha!
Pero sa totoo lang, napaka bait ng mga FA natin compared dito sa US. Sa atin maalaga at naka smile. Customer service talaga. Dito mabibilang mo lang ang mabait.
Yung mga nagtatanggol dyan, pag music artist example kung nay concert, may logistics yan. Sa case niya, obviously hindi nya ni-declare bago flight niya na may dala siya. Nagtitipid si kuya. Yun lang yun.
This is not an entitled post from him. The violin case is just as big as any other carry on, probably even smaller than most carry on wheelies. It's insensitive of PAL not to allow this knowing how fragile these instruments are.
What he is saying is it clearly fits,what if ot fits the whole baggage compartment? What about the other passengers? Also if the container of his instrument is longer than the size specified by the airlines?
Halatang halata sa mga posts ng karamihan na talagang hindi cultured ang karamihan sa mga Pinoy at puro kajejehan lang ang alam. Some musical instruments can cost hundreds of thousands up to millions, and they are fragile enough na pwedeng masira sa check in, knowing kung gano kabargas ang karamihan sa mga cargo operators dito sa atin. Kesyo entitled blah blah, waley di lang talaga kayo culture di niyo alam halaga ng mga yan. At di rin kayo masyado nagttravel kaya di niyo alam na sa ibang airlines, may special handling sila sa mga musical instruments in-flight na hindi na kailangang i check-in.
You can pay for fragile items. They are marked and insured. But his post is mali talaga. It was explained na as per policy. He shouldve asked why right then and there demand explanation and information.
Mas kulang sa kautakan yang ipilit ninyo na isakay ang musical instrument ke ginto pa yan kung hindi allowed sa airlines,bumili kayo ng eroplano o kaya sumakay sila ng magic carpet.
Baka naman trombone ang dala tapos magingay sa loob ng plane
ReplyDeletemomshie natawa ako sa trombone 😂
DeleteHahaha may fiesta sa barangay
DeleteI kennat 😂
DeleteIf it's too big, it has to be checked in. Wheelchair nga chinecheck-in. Stop trying to get any special treatments. Policy is a policy. Im glad they didn't bend the rules for you, even if your sister.
DeleteDi nagbasa or nagbasa pero kulang sa comprehension? Iodized salt kasi dapat ang ginagamit.
DeleteaKO din momsh natawa asa office pa naman meeee
Deletehahahahahaahahhahaha grabedadddddddddddddddd ka baks hahaahahahaha 1:06 or baka drum set lol
DeleteDaanin ba sa socmed ang reklamo? Feeling entitled si kuya. Buti nireplyan ka. Kalowka ang ibang celebtities ng pinas, feeling angat. 🙄
Delete3:15 Kindly read it again. Gerard only shared the complaint, he was asking for a clarification. Hindi naman sya nagpapaka-celebrity, maayos yung tanong nya.
Delete1:06 AM NAIIYAK NA AKO SA KAKATAWA DITO LOL
DeleteName Dropping pa si koya na kapatid nya si LEA hallerrrr 11:58 di pa ba nag-papaka celebrity ito?
DeleteFeeling entitled talaga ang koya mo. So pag nag clarify ka dapat sa socmed? Tumigal ka! May tamang processo. Isa ka pang feeling entitled.
DeleteActually, trombone is not that big. Perhaps you're talking about Tuba? Sousaphone for that matter? Liit lang kasi ng trombone...
DeleteEh kung slide trombone? Haba nun!!!😂😂😂
DeleteImagine someone carrying a cielo.
ReplyDeletehaha bka nga baks
Deletekulintang siguro dala n sir nyaha
DeleteIve seen it done many times. You have to inform the airline in advance so they can secure the overhead space for it.
DeleteYou meant cello, right?
DeleteI can imagine someone carrying a cello...but a CIELO? Ano yern? :D
Deletehahaha. kaloka ung cielo. ano ba yun?????????????
DeleteWe often travel to different countries as a string quartet (manageable) and sometimes an orchestra (headache!). We buy tickets for the large instruments. Usually it gets strapped into its own seat (expensive). Sometimes it gets into a special compartment within the cabin (cheaper fee), overhead’s too small for some instruments. Made arrangements with the airline ahead of time, during booking. No problem naman either PAL, or many other airlines.
DeleteUsually, if you want to carry cello as a carry on luggage, you need to purchase a seat for it.
Deleteano daw? eh bakit yong ukelele pwede? eh pwede din namang ipanghampas ng ulo yon if in case may mag away.
ReplyDeleteKulang po sa space. Ang ukulele po maliit lang. Ang gitara kahit gano kagaan mahaba. Tsaka hindi ka din naman papayag na patingan ng bag ang gitara mo kahit nasa case pa.
DeleteSis binasa mo ba ung reply o d ka maka intindi? Ung overhead space nila maliit, di kasya ang guitars or piano or what not. Ukulele is allowed since maliit sya and can probably fit inside overhead space
DeleteTHEY NEED TO BUY A SEAT FOR THEIR INSTRUMENTS IF IT'S TOO BIG. THEY CALL IT EXTRA SEAT OR CABIN BAGGAGE. DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE NOT AWARE IF THEY ARE FREQUENT TRAVELERS?
Delete1:47 yaan mo na si 1:10. Di pa nakakasakay ng eroplano or kahit naggoogle muna bago magcomment. Mamaru kasi.
DeleteHindi ka rin nagbabasa sabi kaysa naman daw yung instrument sa overhead pero hindi parin pinayagab.
DeleteAnon 1:47 kasya naman pero ang point dun sasakupin buong overhead. Nakasakay ka na ba ng eroplano? Pano naman ibang may handcarry luggage wala sila paglagyan nun di ba.
Delete1:47 at 3:50 Sinabi din ng PAL na for safety purposes. Maliban sa size na pinag lalaban niyo, eh para din sa safety ng pasahero since pag nagka gulo pwede ihampas ung instrument sa kahit na sino dun
DeleteMga guitars baka pag dala mo sa loob ng plane makatama ka ng iba pang pasahero.
DeleteEntitled naman masyado. Safety din ng ibang passengers un. Tska policy nga e wala ka choice. Policy nila un
ReplyDeleteDoes asking for clarification a form of entitlement? Grabe naman.
DeleteMusical instruments are very expensive. I mean VERY expensive. Some are even priceless. Airlines employees are known for mishandling and breaking these instruments and most of them doesn't pay the whole value when broken or lost. That's why a lot top international airlines allow hand carry to put in a special bin of musical instruments.
Delete@1:19, well, when he pointed out himself being a musician and mentioned his sister being an endorser and again himself as the one who made their inflight intro, he isn't just mere asking for clarification.
DeleteThen if its that expensive.. buy a seat for your instrument.. maka expensive ka but cant afford to buy space
DeleteAnon 1:24 Then he should pay for the extra cabin fee. If you can afford these VERY expensive instruments then you can certainly afford the fee. Theres a set space for equally allocates for all passengers. If you require additional space, which he does, then pay up.
DeleteThere is a violin priced at 1 million dollars. If the ground personnel mishandled a valued instrument, will they pay?
Delete1:24 who cares? Mag aadjust lahat para sa instruments na napaka mahal?
Deletedear, napakamahal ng musical instruments especially violins. tapos hagis hagis lang ng airline personnel? minsan pa nga 10 taon pinagipunan ng musician ang instrumento nya tapos pagsakay ng eroplano, sira! paano naman naging entitled if he only emphasized na napakahalaga ng instrumento sa musikerong gaya nya. madami na syang nadalang karangalan sa bansa, kalabisan ba ang magtanong ng maayos?
DeleteEntitlement talaga. May magclarify bang nangampanyang wag sumakay ng PAL? First time ni Salonga sumakay ng eroplano at need pakasayahin ang piano?
DeleteUhm 1:24 pwede mo naman pag check in sabihin na fragile para mamarkahan. Di ko alam kung may extra payment.
Delete1:24 E di, i-fedex nya, and and put "fragile" on it and have it insured. Theres no such thing as a special bin.
DeleteYES to that 1:24! I've seen how they pile the baggage for boarding the plane juskoooo talagang wish mo walang fragile items na di nakasecure doon.
Delete1:24 Then they should pay for the cabin overhead fees like what PAL. Kung mahal yung gamit mo for sure you can afford to pay additional for that very expensive musical item. Its like why buy a STRADIVARIUS if you can’t afford TOPNOTCH insurance
DeleteKung kaya pala ng expensive things. Why not rent a plane or buy a hella plane
DeleteYou guys are so naive if you think by putiing "fragile", they actually treat it as babasagin. Simple google will show you tons of airline complaints about missing baggages and broken "fragile" items.
Delete9:37 Simpleng skincare items ko nga na binili sa korea na delivered by fedex, basag yung lid nung nakarating sakin eh tadtad na nga ng fragile sticker yung kahon. At mali ka kasi may special bin ang airlines para sa musical instruments. I've seen people hand instruments, carseats at hand carry na medical equipments sa stewardess pagsakay sa eroplano para ilagay sa separate storage bins/room.
DeleteIm right now travelling,walang special treatment or special bin.At lalong strict dito sa ibang bansa pagdating sa luggage size.You will hand the big items to the person on the counter.Checked in lahat yan.Walang nagdala ng malalaking bagay.Magkamali ka lang dito sa international airline,ipapa iwan mga luggage mo or you will pay extra.
DeleteHindi naman entitled yung nag ask lag ng clarification. He shared the complaint to ask kung ano yung reason talaga. He was not the complainant. Plus he mentioned frequent flyer sila ng PAL meaning they love PAL and sana magsabi ng matinong dahilan.
Deletepinagiipunan ng karamihan sa mga musikero yan para makagawa ng magandang musika na papakinggan nio sa gabi o sa panahon na mag-isa kayo sa sasakyan at nakikinig ng radio. hindi porke't may mamahaling violin eh mayaman na. karamihan dyan, gusto lang maganda ang kalidad ng musika. sana lang ung mga fragile na gamit, wag naman iitsa itsa lang kasi pinagpapaguran yan at pinagiipunan. ang nanay at tatay ko, pinagaral kami sa pamamagitan ng pagiging musikero. hindi kalakihan ang kita pero tulad nyo na ang kaligayahan eh kotse o sapatos, ang sa kanila eh violin at gitara. sana lang talaga, wag iitsa itsa ang mga musical instruments dahil kadalasan, bumubuhay yan ng ilang pamilya. salamat!
Delete6:57 --There is a violin priced at 1 million dollars. If the ground personnel mishandled a valued instrument, will they pay? ----
DeleteAFFORD MO ANG INSTRUMENT NA GANYAN,
AFFORD MO DIN ANG CHARTERED PLANE...
wag engot
True! Baklang manicurista. May 1m ayaw magsibayad for the luggage o kaya ipa special delivery niya.
DeleteMasyadong entitled to
ReplyDeleteIts not. May kakilala ako na nawala ng airline yung pamanang violin sa kanya ng deceased mom nya. And the airline employees were being rude about it pa.
Deletemisused use of "entitled"...
DeleteGuidelines ng eroplano un. Itawag muna or mag abiso if magdadala ng mga ganyan bagay. Take it or leave it. Wag dalin kung ayaw ipabagahe! Rules dpat sumunod. Hay
DeleteHe was not the complainant. He was just asking for a clarification. So papano naging 'entitled' si Gerard?
DeleteCalm down Salonga. Yall nothing special . Everyone has to abide by these rules. They’re strict on everyone.
ReplyDeleteDid you even bother reading whose post was Gerard was quoting from? He was simply and politely asking PAL for clarifications. How did he come of as not calming down?
DeleteMeh, it’s not about rules. It’s about providing cabin space for expensive and similar items in the cabin that other airlines do provide.
DeleteThe clarification is it's their policy.
Deleteang main reason is kulang sa overhead limited space. kung kasya naman sa carry-on luggage tulad ng sabi ni gerard, bakit hindi pa rin allowed?
ReplyDeleteKaysa nga pero baka the instrument can occupy the whole space. Meaning sa isang overhead share kayo ng katabi mo. Or Baka full flight sila. Kaya Hinde allowed ?
Deleted ka maka intindi? Ung overhead space nila maliit, di kasya ang guitars or piano or what not. Ukulele is allowed since maliit sya and can probably fit inside overhead space. Besides for security purposes eh paano kung may nag amok na pasahero at binalibag ung instrument sa iba
DeleteAirlines like quantas, singapore and and british airways for example has special bin for instruments and other high value large hand carry. You will hand the instrument when you enter the plane. Phil air should do the same kasi marami talaga silang lost items.
DeletePAL is too cheap to provide a special cabin for musical instruments and the like. Their planes are too crowded with maximum number of seats.
Delete1:48 wag pilosopo. Piano sa overhead space? Pencilcase lang?
DeleteI think it's a valid point na kung kasya naman bakit di pa din inallow. Ang ukelele hindi pwede ibaliga kung may mag amok? May string pa nga yun na delikado din kung iisipin e
2:12 those airlines you mentioned does not allow hand carry items that do not fit the luggage size.You will have to check the items in.Then they place a fragile sticker to your important luggage.
Delete11:29 Yes they do, i know coz i've done it before not with musical instrument though. It was artworks for me and the stewardess took it from me to put in a separate storage upon entering the plane and gave it back when we landed. Same thing happened with my baby stroller.
Delete12:40 I brought sports items with me,riding the airlines you mentioned and it was checked in.Not hand carry.
Delete1:15 baka kasi masyadong malaki ang sports items mo. I was allowed to hand carry the artwork that I purchased and the airline stowed it for me and gave it back paglapag ng eroplano. This is the reason why singapore airlines at quantas are my preferred airliner. Emirates and ANA (japan) are very good too. They are very accomodating. PAL has a lot of growing up to do.
Delete1:54 not malalaki pero mahaba ang sports items na dala ko.
DeleteKung may matamaan yung mga items na hawak mo since siksikan na while boarding the plane,who is responsible for that?
DeletePolicy nila un. Kung ayaw mo sumunod sa iba ka sumakay.
ReplyDeleteYun na nga ang gagawin sa susunod. Kahit gusto nilang tangkilikin ang PAL dahil sila pa ang nag endorse, mapipilitan silang sa iba sumakay. The irony.
DeleteGanun din po sa iba.Kasi palagi akong nagtatravel.May size talaga at bigat ang kailangan.
DeletePAL pa rin ako,at least you land safely,and not a SPIRIT.
DeleteBaka sudden change ang policy nila kaya kaya nabigla yung mga musicians, especially since madaming int'l flights ang PAL. Maraming instruments na kahit na sa hard case pa, maliit pa sa hand carry luggage at mas magaan. Sayang na rin ang babayaran mong ipa check in kung pwede namang hand carry.
ReplyDeleteHindi pwede kasi ilalagay yan sa luggage compartment sa itaas,e may size naman dapat para maglagay din yung iba pang pasahero ng
ReplyDeleteKanikanilang luggage.Gusto mo,magbayad ka na lang ng extra,kasi parang pag lampas sa sukat ata ipapa check in sa iyo at hindi hand carry
They dont allow it sa check in pag overbooked ang flight which is all the time kahit bayad pa yung seat.
DeleteAllowed yan sa check in kasi ilang beses akong nakadala ng sports items at nilalagyan ng tatak,fragile.Mahaba din kasi yung ibang sports items na dala ko.Magbabayad ka lang sa counter.
DeleteMeron naman,magbayad talaga sa counter for that.Pero hindi madadala as hand carry lalo na kung mas mahaba or mabigat than the allowed size.Very strict dito sa US.
DeleteKahit naman sa itaas mo yan ilagay,madadaganan pa rin yan ng ibang items doon ng ibang pasahero lalo na
DeletePag umandar eroplano.
For sure naging policy yan kasi nagkaroon na ng bad incident before. We should also be mindful of other passengers.. And if its for the sake of all esp safety.. THEN JUST ABIDE SA RULES.
ReplyDeletePero sana ma-handle with care din 'yung instruments if nilagay sa checkin. Minsan kasi bara bara mga tagahawak eh. Kuwawa din dahil mahal instruments.
WHY NEVER FLY?? JUST BECAUSE OF THE ZERO TOLERANCE FOR INSTRUMENTS? GERALD— maybe for those musicians who are have violins, guitars and other small instruments. HINDI lahat ng tao musicians kaya never encourage everyone not to fly PAL , no?!
ReplyDeleteBaka gusto mong basahin ulit yung post. Hindi si Gerard ang nag-encourage sa mga tao to "never fly Philippine Airlines..." He was asking on behalf of his friend; thus, he linked his friend's initial post. Yung friend nya ang nagsabing "never fly..." Basahin kasi muna ng maigi bago magreact. And his names is Gerard NOT Gerald.
DeleteO nga! Itong mga to hindi lang mapag bigyan ang dami ng hanash.
DeleteGERALD— for musicians lang with instruments yung announcement mo.I will
ReplyDeleteStill fly PAL no?
Gerard did not post that, he quoted it from a musician friend named Allen Meek to ask for explanation.
DeleteDue to limited overhead space. Ukuleles are of the same size as just small luggages or even smaller. Its very understandable for PAL to not allow other type of musical instruments that's bigger and longer than a luggage like guitar for example. PAl also does not allow personal wheelchairs and strollers. And I believe that is fair for everyone. If you allow one passenger to bring something that would eat up a lot of space, might as well allow everyone. Though it is very unlikely for every passenger to bring a guitar on the same flight, it's just nice to have guidelines and policies on black and white.
ReplyDeleteCorrect.I am in the airport,travelling back to Manila.Ive seen passengers na may strollers at binawal sa counter,they need to show the items then it needs to be checked in,not hand carried.
DeleteMga nag cocomment wala ring alam sa policies. Pwede hes just asking kayo naman hindin niyo pa ba experience din and you don't know what instrument he's asking about. Hes aking if in general thats the policy or certain lang.
ReplyDeleteNakakailang travel na ba yang si Gerald? So alam na nya dapat yan.Ano ang purpose?
DeleteTingin mo itatanong niya kung alam niya lol
DeleteMaybe Gerard’s friend is carrying a violin... still a big size for overhead space compartment.
ReplyDeleteYou have to pay extra seat for your music instrument, so they can tie it to it. That’s what I‘ve read when I checked if it’s okay for handcarry.
ReplyDeleteWrong. Their policy is no musical instrument at all, bigger than ukulele, in the cabin. Even if you can pay.
DeleteIf his instruments kaysa sa overhead Paano kung yung carry on mo can occupy one whole overhead? Paano naman yung katabi mo? Sympre in one row you share in one overhead right? Example sa isang row Tatlo kayo diba? Paano naman katabi mo? Second, baka that’s their new rules na bago na that need to follow sympre May mga sharp objects din mga instruments na yan that can use for terrorism while your on flight Hinde natin alam diba? Usually mga gamit nila nasa malaki hardcase talaga as in heavy duty na parang baul made of metal na makapal. Not unless Kung Sikat na Sikat ka kuha ka na Lang ng private plane doon pwede mo isakay ang instrument mo.
ReplyDeleteYan din ang point ko kanina.Its not just about the compartment,its his musical instrument taking up the whole space of the luggage compartment na para sa iba pang passengers.
DeleteSafety na rin,pwede kang makatama sa iba pang pasahero lalo na kung masikip
DeleteSana, hand carry ang musical instruments and then handed to the flight attendant, there’s another closet for coats and stuff, it can go in there. Special arrangements can be made sana.
ReplyDeleteKahit sa ibang international airlines, hindi din allowed na i-hand carry ang musical instrument if it exceeds a certain allowable length. Pwede i-hand carry pero you have to pay for an extra seat.
ReplyDeleteAng bigat kaya ng gamit nila sige lets just say if share kayo ni passenger ng isang overhead Tapos bigla pag bukas mo nahulog si instrument sino liable Edi nag bukas... safety first! Violin at ukelele pwede naman ksi yun pwede mo yun hawak or itago
ReplyDeleteSa ilalim ng upuan.
Mr salonga should just buy an extra seat for his instrument
ReplyDeleteIt's not him ata but his friend. Anyway, Kalimitan kasi ang mga airlines purposely yung overbooking lalo na pag international ang flight tapos ang unang seat na kinacancel is extra seats. Hindi guarantee ang extra seat. So what are they supposed to do then?
DeleteHe's only kinda passing on the message posted by Allen Meek
DeleteThen Allen Meek should just pay for the extra seat,have his instrument checked in or ride a boat! Or better yet dont travel.
DeleteDear gerard...you were never a prof. Musican. Hinatak kalang ng pagsikat ng kapatid mo. Kung wala si lea... your nothing but a typical musician.
ReplyDeleteNahiya naman si Gerard sa 'yo. He might have INITIALLY gain popularity as he is naturally associated with his famous sister BUT Gerard is a well-known conductor and composer. He is a very successful musician in his own right. Hindi lang si Lea ang namamayagpag sa larangang ginagalawan nya. Lea is well known kasi nasa harap sya ng entablado, while Gerard works mostly behind the scenes. He graduated in Ateneo and pursued his education in Berkelee University sa Boston, Massachusetts where he graduated as summa cum laude. Worked with Sony Pictures and for a time, with Ryan Cayabyab, among others. Siguro sya nga yung sinasabi mong "typical musician" kasi mas kilala sya sa labas ng bansa natin dahil doon mas maraming nakaka-appreciate ng ginagawa nya. :p
DeleteHaha napakabitter ng post
DeleteDont be stupid. To be a conductor you have to "know" music. You have to be a musician first and skilled in music theory. The level of discipline and precise skill that classical musicians and practitioners need, di yan typical. genius ka ha? patawa ka
DeleteHa? Nag aral sya ng Music. Summa cum Laude pa. Music is his profession. That's how he makes money. So paano sya hindi naging professional musician? Give him credit dahil pinaghirapan nya naman yung mga naabot nya, not because of his sister.
DeleteHUUUY! Kilabutan ka diyan! Gerard Salonga has already made a name for himself as a musical arranger, conductor, and musical director. Hindi porket hindi sya frontliner or stage talent like Lea, 'nahatak' lang sya - he has his own kind of exceptional musical talent.
DeleteNot a professional musician? He's summa cum laude from Berklee College of Music. And an orchestral conductor there in Pinas and abroad. Arranges music, too. If that's typical musician to you, your standard must be off the charts. I don't think even his sister can help him be a TOYM awardee, his achievements are all his.
DeleteP.S. "You're", not "your nothing..."
HOMAYGAD!!!!!!! kaloka tong si baks.
Deletepalibhasa yeng consatantino levels lang ang professional musician para sa yo sister eh dinamay mo pa sa pagkajeje mo si gerard salonga.
DeleteInshort pwede naman as long as you pay! Avail their cabin baggage services. So choice mo na kung mag aavail ka or hanap ka nalang ng ibang airlines na walang fee yung pagdala ng instruments as hand carry. Hahaha. Easy money for PAL
ReplyDeleteAkala ko personal experience ni koya nung umpisa, may pa-bio eh. Char
ReplyDeleteI think PAL changed its rules kc in 2015 when we moved here in CA through PAL, my husband handcarried his acoustic guitar. Of course it won’t fit in overhead bin kaya they took and put somewhere else. Before kami bumaba, dinala rin mismo ng cabin crew sa seat namin ung guitar.
ReplyDeleteExactly. That's how other airlines do it too. Baka kasi naisip nila na mas kikita sila kung pipilitin nilang bumili ng extra seat yung passengers. Greedy naman.
DeleteSo ukelele only, not even a flute?? 😳
ReplyDeleteHahahahaha this comment made my day :)
Deletenakikisawsaw din pala ang mga salongas 🤔🤔🤔
ReplyDeleteHindi naman. He is a musician and he knows a lot of musicians. It’s his right and his business to know. Gets mo.
DeleteNagtanong lang nakisawsaw na? Hahahahha ano ba di mo nagets tanong niya? Wala naman masama magtanong
DeleteBakit hindi niya irekta sa PAL ang complaints or rants niya,bakit magpapapansin sa socmed.Im sure nagiisip naman sila at hindi naman tayong lahat tiga PAL
DeleteHmmm....well, where are they going to put a large musical instrument in the cabin anyway? People can hardly move in there.
ReplyDeleteJust take other airlines. They have special spaces for those instruments in the cabin. PAL is like a budget airline anyway.
ReplyDeleteNow sa pal they also have choices,expensive seats and least expensive seats just like the budget
DeleteAirlines.
Hahahahaha...PAL wants to maximize profit seyempre.
ReplyDeletesa ibang airline walng kaso ang hand carry na instrument, di talaga recommended ang check in kasi itinatapon tapon lang naman ang bagahe. Tsaka di naman talaga maganda sa PAL
ReplyDeleteHellloooo?! Napaka no-brainer na dapat nito. Hindi ba nagiisip si Gerard? Of course hindi pwede kasi hindi kasya. If allowed, sige nga san nya balak ilagay gitara nya? Hahawakan nya? Even the smallest of handbags nga airlines are strict about having them tucked under the seats in front of you, kasi po Gerard pwedeng lumipad yun at tumama sa kung kanino man lalo na kung may heavy turbulence etc. Ano ba. Mandadamay ka pa ng ibang pasahero
ReplyDeletePag may matamaan ang musical instruments niya habang boarding kasi masikip di ba,
DeleteSino ang irereklamo ng pasahero,syempre PAL.
Dont fly PAL anymore then. Worst airline.
ReplyDeleteEh di ba bawal nga ang my matulis or something hard that can be used as a weapon? If its sumthing big and it has parts which are pointy, i babawal din nman yan s immigration.. so my tama nman ang PAL dto..
ReplyDeleteAllen Meek plays trombone. Walang matulis sa trombone teh. Its about the size of a trumpet. Not big. I can understand why he's mad because it could break easily if checked in and for that size, PAL could've accomodated him easily. Its ridiculous to pay extra seat for a mere trombone.
DeleteNapa-entitle nman nito. Sinabi pa talaga na dating endorser ng PAL.ang kapatid niya.
ReplyDeleteListed nman lahat ng mga items na hindi puwede as hand carry. Mahirap bng sumunod? Kong hindi pwede huwag ipilit. Si Lea nga nag post pa one time dahil ng paggamit ng phone sa theater eh.
Rules are rules, simple as that. If you do not want to follow, book somewhere else.
ReplyDeletePAL broke my violin (a Stradivarius). They replied to me that it was my fault since it wasnt packed well. If you have high value objects, like your livelihood depends on it. Ask first before booking a flight. Better safe than sorry.
ReplyDeleteGanito kasi,if you are carrying oversized stuff,you need to declare it sa may desk pa lang so that they can accomodate your items,lets say stroller etc.May nakasulat din na fragile.Yin nga lang kailangan kang mag bayad ng extra.In my case,we bring fisging rods etc when we fly.
Delete11:18 may mga balahura lang din talagang airline personell. hagis hagis lang kahit may ALL CAPS BOLD ITALICIZED na FRAGILE. HANDLE WITH CARE. gets mo?
DeleteSumakay ka barko at kalungkalungin mo yang dala mo 1:58
DeleteI have a friend who is violinist. And experienced din nya for checked-in yung violin niya. pero no matter what happens, need talaga i hand-carry yung violin niya dahil it cost more than a Million. Minsan napapakiusapan naman yung FA. Okay sana kung maingat sila sa mga luggages eh.. Kahit nakalagay na fragile, minsan hindi maiiwasan ang pagkasira dahil hindi sila maingat.
ReplyDeleteSa mga di nakaka intindi, friend ni mr salonga ang qinuote niya and he is clarifying because it might happen to him one day!
ReplyDeleteMag bayad ka na lang ng extra seat!!! Napaka entitled mo naman at nanumbat ka pa. I’m sure iniisip ng PAL ang kapakanan ng lahat at hindi lang kayo na musicians. Haha!
ReplyDeletePero sa totoo lang, napaka bait ng mga FA natin compared dito sa US. Sa atin maalaga at naka smile. Customer service talaga. Dito mabibilang mo lang ang mabait.
magbasa bago kumuda, mahina reading comprehension mo baks
DeleteMas mahina pagkaintindi niyang nagrereklamo baks 12:50 kung ayaw nila
DeleteYang rules ng Pal,mag book sila ng iba pang airlines o kaya,mamangka sila.
Yung mga nagtatanggol dyan, pag music artist example kung nay concert, may logistics yan. Sa case niya, obviously hindi nya ni-declare bago flight niya na may dala siya. Nagtitipid si kuya. Yun lang yun.
ReplyDeleteDi ka nagbasa o mahina comprehension mo.
DeleteThis is not an entitled post from him. The violin case is just as big as any other carry on, probably even smaller than most carry on wheelies. It's insensitive of PAL not to allow this knowing how fragile these instruments are.
ReplyDeleteRules are rules Magbarko sila kung ayaw nila yang patakaran ng PAL.
DeleteSinabi na kasya naman, ibig sabihin maliit Lang.... thanks
ReplyDeleteWhat he is saying is it clearly fits,what if ot fits the whole baggage compartment? What about the other passengers? Also if the container of his instrument is longer than the size specified by the airlines?
DeleteHalatang halata sa mga posts ng karamihan na talagang hindi cultured ang karamihan sa mga Pinoy at puro kajejehan lang ang alam. Some musical instruments can cost hundreds of thousands up to millions, and they are fragile enough na pwedeng masira sa check in, knowing kung gano kabargas ang karamihan sa mga cargo operators dito sa atin. Kesyo entitled blah blah, waley di lang talaga kayo culture di niyo alam halaga ng mga yan. At di rin kayo masyado nagttravel kaya di niyo alam na sa ibang airlines, may special handling sila sa mga musical instruments in-flight na hindi na kailangang i check-in.
ReplyDeleteYou can pay for fragile items. They are marked and insured. But his post is mali talaga. It was explained na as per policy. He shouldve asked why right then and there demand explanation and information.
DeleteBottom line is,you pay.You have important items with you.Ke golden buddha pa yan,you pay extra.
Delete1:19AM
Deletebwhahahahaah
potacaa booclaaa
GOLDEN BUDDHA?
Dami ko tawa BWHAHAHAHA
Agree. Yung halatang-halata na nga na kulang sa comprehension at experience pero kung makapagbitaw ng comment eh parang kung sinong mga know it all.
DeleteMas kulang sa kautakan yang ipilit ninyo na isakay ang musical instrument ke ginto pa yan kung hindi allowed sa airlines,bumili kayo ng eroplano o kaya sumakay sila ng magic carpet.
DeleteKung mayaman kayo,magbayad ng extra for the musical instrument. Sobrang kakuriputan na lang na mag reklamo sa
DeletePolicy ng airline.
Panalo yung golden buddha.sabagay kung mala ginto nga naman violin mo,may pambayad ka ng extra.Ang kukunat naman ng mga ibang tao hahahaha
DeleteKung musician ka,better yet mag barko ka na lang,magbangka ka!
ReplyDeletekung makabully ng musikero mga tao dito, grabehan lang. pero kunbg makapakinig ng radio, music is life daw. hypocrites!
ReplyDeleteMagands ba yang mag reklamo ng todo porket musician?
DeleteAno naman kala niyo,special treatment sa airlines? Bayad bayad din ng extra pag may time ha.
DeleteNakakatawa yung iba basta makagamit lang ng word na “entitled”
ReplyDeleteEasy peasy Tito Gerald, pay the fee to get your "instrument" on board safely :) Can't afford? Don't fly :)
ReplyDeleteCorrect! Who you sila hahahaha
Deletee di mag cebupac ka or airasia.. daming kuda ni koya
ReplyDeleteO kaya mag hore sila,ibook nila buong eroplano.Chartered flight.
DeleteYun nga kala mo mag aadjust yung airline policy sa kanila wahahahaha
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