Images courtesy of Facebook: Roman Catholic Bishop of Kalookan, Animal Kingdom Foundation
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Image courtesy of Facebook: The Diocesan Shrine and Parish of the Immaculate Conception
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Image and Video courtesy of Facebook: Pablo Virgilio David, Roman Catholic Bishop of Kalookan
Courtesy of Facebook: Animal Kingdom Foundation
Napaka walanghiya!
ReplyDeleteKawawa yung dove!
Kaya nga. Di man lang naisip na lahat meron ng cellphone and nagvivideo.
DeleteThey all know na may cp mga tao. Sadyang wala lang sa consciousness ang cruelty ng ginagawa nila.
DeleteMagisterium + Tradition + Scripture
DeleteScripture lang kasi dapat ang nag govern sa Believers hindi simbahan o tradisyon na pwede ma corrupt
Anong nangyari sa dove after?
Delete914 Lumipad sa langit. Di na nakita. Pumotok na pala. Un lobo. Yung kalapati malamang patay na. Di nakalipad eh pero dinala sa up up and away
DeleteSinong t*nga nag plano neto?
ReplyDeleteOo nga eh, common sense n dapat yan. Mag props na lang kayo!
DeleteTradisyon nga daw e. So syempre yung kanunu-nunuan pa nila.
DeleteRight there and then, wala ba sumita. Kawawa yung dove. Kung andyan ako, feeling ko d ko matitiis makakita ng ganyan :(
ReplyDeleteSa planning stage pa nga lang eh, for sure madami sila dyan, wala man lang matitinong nag object?? Haay
DeleteDami rin kasi paandar ng ibang parish church. Minsan overboard na rin sa normal mass rites. Tinatawag pa ng pari mga birthday celebrant, nag celebrate ng anniversary bago matapos ang misa. Ayun, matagal na ang sermon ng pari, mas lalo pa natatagalan ang mass rites. Noong holy week nga, may isang parish priest na usual na naghuhugas paa sa mga disipulo, pati deacon at sakristan, sinama na rin sa paghugas paa. Juskolord. 😭
ReplyDeleteRitualistic kasi ang Roman Catholic yan ang ayaw ni Jesus puro rituals wala na ung totong worship na sa puso at isip dapat. Puro na kang rituals
DeleteYung paghugas ng paa ay tradition sa holy week. Hindi sya paandar lang ng church nyo
Delete9:15 Pati paa ng mga deacon at sakristan? Diba mga disipulo lang😭
DeleteYung paghugas ng paa ay tradisyon talaga sa Holy Week auntie. Kwestyunin mo kapag ginawa every Sunday. Yung ibang concern mo ay valid isama mo na yung pag-announce ng mga nagbigay ng donasyon sa simbahan or kung magkano ang nalikom ng simbahan, dapat hindi na kasali. If they really want to be transparent, they could just post sa bulletin board sa office ng pari.
DeleteSaan simbahan ka naman nakakita na tinatawag ng pari mga birthday celebrant at nag celebrate ng anniversary para bigyan ng bendisyon before the mass end? You cannot see it in other parish, except in this one particular church. Tsaka saan simbahan ka naman nakakita na twing holy week, pati paa ng deacon and lectors hinuhugasan din mga paa. Mga disipulo lang hinihugasan mga paa
DeleteSila ang nasa verse sa bible sa Luke 20:46-47
DeleteBeware of the teachers of the law. They like to walk around in FLOWING ROBES and LOVE TO BE GREETED WITH RESPECT in the marketplaces and have the most important seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets. They devour widows’ houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. These men will be punished most severely!
This Pablo guy didn't really apologize at all but instead minimized the animal abuse. Instead of showing humility and accountability, he put the blame to the lower ranks.With his post, we can surmised that he was well informed of the dove cabled, but didn't get the result of what this whole thing was all about. VIRAL. That is why he is offended. He was schooled by the public.
ReplyDeleteTo summarize his post:
Its just an animal not a human being therfore people shouldn't make a big issue out of it. Complain if I used a human being.
Lecturing people about their reactions towards his failed presentation is cringey. If you cannot respect animals, how can we expect that you are respectful of human beings?
He just made his bed now lay on it.
If you read carefully, thoroughly and precisely what Cardinal Pablo David said he was regretful that this animal abuse had happened. He was unaware of the pigeon tied more so if he knew he would have disallow it. I have surmised that you wanted to act cool by saying this Pablo guy but hey he is Cardinal Pablo David. A rank lower than the pope. I believe that you are smart but acting suspicious on every level of this unfortunate event and targeting the Cardinal leaves you the unfortunate one. And a sad dude.
Delete@1:13AM And! If you read the Public Apology from the Church... they said the Bishop was present during the event (though, they tried to say he did not see it). Additionally, the statement also said that the church has practiced this. I think they just got caught and are shifting the blame away from the Bishop. But, for sure, he knows!!! There is no way this is the first time they did these type of dove tying. They just got caught, with pictures, this time! Let's try to remember, priests / pastors / etc. are not w/out flaws.
DeleteTrue. He is deflecting the issue.
Delete11:12 pinagsasabi mo
DeleteAgree with 1112. The Cardinal said "we should not be selective daw" . Are we being selective just becoz we were enraged at the torture and abuse of this animal? he just minimized the death of the pigeon.
Delete11:12 The church believes it is untouchable and is above the law hence the non-apology “apology” 🤷🏻♂️
Delete11:12 May comprehension issue ba or trying to be edgy lang
DeleteAnd so? We don't care about ranks. We care more about humanity. Not all Filipinos are papist like you.
DeleteAgree! Hindi naman apology yan eh. Nilayo pa sa real issue at hand. Hind nag isip ung mga nasa simbahan na nag prepare for the event. So anong nangyari dun sa pigeon after? Hindi nga makakalipad un. Sa inyo Kaya gawin yan? Kakaloka kayo. Gamit din ng utak, t##nga lang.
Delete1:13 He is your bishop not everyones bishop. Hindi lahat catholic do not forget. We cannot respect anyone who does not practice what they preach! Sya ang selective! Deflecting pa!
Deletekadiri sa true lang, 0 compassion sa animals. anong natakbo sa utak nila when doing this?
ReplyDeleteMga hayuffff nakita nyo yung paa ng dove sugat sugat na!
ReplyDeleteYung kabubuhay lang ni Hesus, pero parang mas gusto nalang nya mahimlay ulit. Grabe! Anong klaseng braincells ang nakaisip nyan at sino nag approve???
ReplyDeleteMay batas naman sa animal cruelty bakit ba parang normal pa rin ang pang aabuso sa mga hayop?
ReplyDeleteDi na nga ganon kalakas ang pataw na parusa, e wala pang pangil. Ewan ko ba satin bakit need pa ng mga magrereklamo at magsampa ng kaso para sa mga naaabusong animals bago may otoridad na kikilos. Dapat nga wala na ding trial trial dyan sa langyang mga yan, parusa right there and then, lalo na kung kitang kita naman.
DeleteIbang klase kahayupan ng mga taong involved diyan! Walang pagpapahalaga sa buhay porke voiceless ang kalapati!
ReplyDeleteIn terms of religious traditions, I’m still very conservative. Kahit pa we are living in a modern age, may mga customs na hindi na kailangang i-adapt sa panahon just like how some priests are doing the mass nowadays, pati na yung mga santong binibihisan ng kung anong popular na costume sa prusisyon just for the sake of going viral.
ReplyDeleteMatagal na nila ginagawa yan 2016 meron na sa Facebook page nila ( nag check ako) pero wala talaga sumisita dati buti nag viral now
ReplyDeleteOo nga, buti nag viral. Nalaman natin yan. Nakakalungkot isipin ano nangyari dun sa kalapati after.
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ReplyDeleteIn this day and age, it’s surprising that so many people are still oblivious to the suffering of animals.
They could have easily used cut-out cardboard or styrofoam, so why use a real, living dove, only to restrain it just to keep it from moving? It’s heartbreaking. 💔Animals don’t deserve this kind of treatment. Do better!
GMA reported that the dove eventually died after being released with the balloons. 😢
ReplyDeleteOmg :(
DeleteMakes me think about the practices they did before the event...same dove pa din kaya? Ilang dove kaya nagsuffer just for to pull off this BS stunt?? Imagine, doing this to celebrate the Risen Christ who died on the cross for our sins. How ironic, isn't it?
DeleteNadeads ba ung dove?
ReplyDeleteKayo kaya itali ng ganyan parang Dove? Kawawa ung Dove. Stressed na Stressed. Di naman nya alam nangyayari.
ReplyDeleteGrabe si Cardinal. Cardinal, pag nag sosorry po eh stick to the issue hindi ung ililihis pa. I wonder kung mejo corrupt ka din dahil sa statement mong yan.
Di pa ba obvious? Lol. He’s trying to divert the issue. For sure, alam nya yan!!! May nag-comment nga na they have been doing that same exact ritual for years!!! Ngayong lang talaga nag-viral kasi nag-leak sa social platforms. For sure, galit na galit yan… kaya nga pilit pinu-point out nung church na kahit daw nandun yung pare eh di daw nya nakita. 🤣🤣🤣
DeleteBakit di sila kasuhan ng animal cruelty?
ReplyDeletePwede namang tawagin siyang Pablo guy. Si Jesus nga tinatawag ng first name basis. Mga fanatiko lang ang nagpapahalaga sa title. Basta iginagalang at di binabastos. Sa ibang bansa di important ang title dahil para sa kanila ang lahat ay equal. Porke cardinal excuse sa animal cruelty ang si asakupan? Hindi ah. Yung nasaktan sa Pablo guy siguro kasama sa palabas kaya nasasaktan ngayon sa mga batikos. Halos lahat ng nagcomment dito binabatikos yung pag gamit sa live dove na ginawang parang erplano para magviral. Ayan. Nakuha ninyo na attention ng netizens. Sumikat na kayo sa pagpapalipad ng dove na aeroplane.
ReplyDeleteDapat lang batikusin. Dapat nga may consequence pa yan. Di porket pare ka or whatever holy title you have eh untouchable kana. That’s the same excuse corrupt priests, all over the world, utilizes in doing their evil deeds.
DeleteSino kaya nakaisip nito? Ang t*nga lang
ReplyDeletePwede bang gawin din yan dun sa mga gumawa nyan??? Tapos quits na sa mga hinayupak nayan hayuffff sila
ReplyDeleteHindi sapat ang apology.
ReplyDeleteThere are laws against cruelty to animals
and the people who organized that cruel program should be held accountable 😡
If i had the funds to file legal action I would, kaya lang di naman ako mayaman, sapat lang kinikita ko.
Mga animal rights group, please take action para maturuan ng leksyon ang mga guilty.
Siguro mag raise ng funds to sue these people.
DeleteI would question that whole entire church and priest. Dapat imbistigahan yan. What if di lang limited sa isang dove yung gawain nilang ganyan? It definitely warrants a thorough investigation.
DeleteJust because you memorized the bible from cover to cover, it doesn't mean you're a good person :D :D :D Knowing and doing are two separate things ;) ;) ;)
ReplyDeleteThis is why I'm switching to another religion. Catholic priests only care about human souls; they don't care about other beings. I'm switching to Buddhism.
ReplyDeleteI don’t think so. Sadyang may mga masamang tinapay lang talaga among priests and other holy professions.
Deletenakakalungkot at nakakaiyak naman ito. let's make it up to our animal brethen, dobleng kindess at pagpapahalaga tayo sa kanila.
ReplyDeleteHay nako, kairita mga Saserdoteng Caiaphas na ito... sa Diyos kayo magsorry at kinCRUCIFY nyo ang isa sa KANYANG NILIKHA para sa entertainment nyo (yes entertainment yang dula dulaan)! I’m sorry, but I’m sick of these old, medieval, draconian 16th century priests. My uncle was a priest, my aunt a nun, and I consider myself invested in Catholicism and Theology, but both parish priest and bishop have ZERO accountability. Hindi ko inutos yan! Hindi ko kasalanan yan! Hindi ko gusto yan! Kung nasira ang imahe, sa public magsosorry, kung mayabang at walang accountability, sasabihing petiks lang kasalanan namin at dapat yung prublema ng bansa ang isipin. Kung gusto lang ng Diyos, pinitik na kayo sa itlog.
ReplyDeleteHow about ‘We, no, I, deeply apologize to God and ask for His forgiveness for blindly allowing our people to do such cruelty to God’s creation, a symbol of the Holy Spirit at that. From this point on, no animal shall be harmed within our Parish and we will care for them, just as God has instructed.’ Ganun lang kasimple, simpleng kasalanan, simpleng confession, simpleng apology sa Diyos, at sa mga nakakita at sa mga bata (na nainfluence nang okey lang magtorture ng hayop). No need to make it political, social or subjective or even public with press releases. Step off your high horses and your tall temples, stop being Pharisees and be humble and accountable, as Jesus was.
It's animal cruelty! Whoever planned and executed the show should go to prison!
ReplyDeleteCatholics tsk
ReplyDeleteWag lahatin. Lahat kaming Catholics dito sa lugar namin kinocondemn yang ginawa na yan. Di kami Kulto
DeleteDina-divert pa talaga ng Pablo David ang issue by mentioning human loss of human lives, etc. etc. 🙄
ReplyDeleteBat napunta sa drugs
ReplyDeletePara ma divert sa tokhang at Duterte ang isyu. Di ba ganun naman now? Not a fan of Digong but parang lahat ng isyu sa kanya sinisisi at kinakabit. As if naman apakalinis ng simbahan.
DeleteAs a devout Catholic sobrang nakakahiya itong ginawa nila.
ReplyDelete8:51 Buti ka pa di sarado utak mo di gaya ng iba dito na katoliko kumakampi sa maling gawain ng bishop na yan!
Delete4:16 Saan banda muna yung sinasabi mong katoliko na may kumakampi dito sa malpractice na yan?
DeleteKara David, nagkakalat uncle mo oh. Anobayan.
ReplyDeleteHow ironic na mga taong simbahan ang nang abuso sa dove. Walk the talk!
ReplyDeleteSo ang tanong hindi ba kakasuhan ang mga taong involve? Makakalusot na lang ba sila kasi mga bishop sya?
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